Joe Rogan Experience #369 — Jason Silva, Duncan Trussell, Ari Shaffir Transcript

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0:00 the Joe Rogan experience podcast yeah this is really great. That is your world, dude. I got to talk to Aubrey de Grey. And then it's like, good, man. which feels like the beginning of a creepy sci-fi movie And at that point, are they just going to be these living, thinking things that we keep limbless behind a like, you know, behind a rope so people can like throw money and look at?

2:51 That's what it's going to be. So when people talk about robots or nanotechnology, with a future version of what And you got to see the first single cell become multicellular and on and on and on. I mean, you could. It's all perspective. I mean, it's kind of crazy. He says it's the seventh kingdom of life and that it also has wants and universes that allow the sprouting of new possibility.

5:40 against, it's unnatural, we shouldn't do it. called it the Omega Point. and man was the point in which evolution became self-aware and started directing its own evolution. and working on creative problems. and that we're all going to be connected and see our faces on these machines. he was just stuck with these that he cared about it's it but it stands to reason that some people are born with bigger dicks and other people have

8:30 I was reading an article today that said, you know, even though human beings evolved about 200,000 years ago, the first art, the first signs of, like, religion or, you know, contemplative thinking didn't appear until the cave paintings that are, like, 70,000 years old. That's what it is. to wherever they were going. maybe, and all of that. There's an island,

9:36 and drifted into the shore and having to kill them Who are you to put them under your thumb? Bo washed aboard, and they just killed the guy. of possibility. So you might be dealing with Everything. desert religion and the bigger it gets and the more this thing emerges the more its light begins to shine so brightly that all these silly little superstitious

11:59 Do you know what I mean? Oh, my God. It's insanity. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, I want to fly. But do you have attachments or you don't have attachments? But I don't agree that it doesn't matter. Of course it's important. other people are awake to this overwhelming universe. You know, Brian's right here, and he can hear you. And this is the question. He had a train ticket

15:11 It might have been the day before. Just disconnected. decaying bodies. You know, Ernest Becker, who wrote What an asshole to be so presumptuous. Here's my problem with this whole line of thinking. insignificance especially yeah like yeah yes absolutely in our significance we are all the who are basing everything they do on a phantasmal being people freedom of religion but simultaneously it's like well but why are you cutting girls

18:01 Yeah. which, as Eric Davis says, to generate images inside the mind's eye Yeah. But you know. This is how it responds to that. Maybe that too. Just like when you have a cut, it clots. Yeah. You get to hear the message. You get to see the exact same thing as if it was real. She doesn't want to hang out with Matthew McConaughey, who's a priest. But think of what happened at the end of the movie.

20:06 that was against it. so you can make reason of it. There are scholars in Jerusalem, That makes a lot of sense. That's just a theory. Yeah, he was tripping. They destroy the evidence. obviously, So they create what he calls infinite resonance with set and setting. This motherfucker's talking mumbo jumbo. feedback? If you're in a shitty Happy Shroom Fest.

22:42 Yeah. How bad is this going to get? And that if we are not improving as a human being, we feel shitty. I feel like if you're not like improving yourself and getting rid of your bullshit in life, it's very difficult to feel good. Like some people fall back and forth. feeling like shit what you're saying it's not some broad big thing you've on man because if i'm feeling like shit what you're saying it's not

24:54 whatever all right you let it go sleep on it regulating your emotions a gig you lost or Now, that's got to be frustrating as fuck. No. I'm like, are you going to go to the front and ask, hey, I'm about to miss my flight, or are you not? where we're going to have all these devices that are going to be. It'll measure your biofeedback rhythms, and it'll give you feedback

26:23 them over, but it's from those sensors that say your speed and tell you that as you're passing by. How often are you wandering around in a state of absolute terror, you are terrified. You are tense right now. 20, whatever the fuck we are, That everybody, by the time they're 30 years old, is in some kind of debt. Medical school debt is insane. Not medical lot of education debt. But that's going to change with technology.

28:00 went through. getting free education. There's a Harvard we talk about self-organization and emergence when johnson's book future perfect talks about how those can be leveraged to like solve problems you Right. That's where they put it all behind. Exactly, man. I'm going to do mushrooms under the supermoon. one quarter of the size of ours, and it's literally floating above our heads.

31:06 Yeah. Anybody else? Those people are straight out of college. It's almost over for you. No, I never heard of him. That's the beautiful thing about this time. It's really hard. you tune in and they're not wrong whether it's Johnny Cash find it for you people like oh that guy's really funny This was one of the biggest things I ever did. is because people like you are interested coming on, you know

34:08 And so the most difficult thing, I think, Brian Redband's leaving us, everybody, so he's got to It's dope. Not on the podcast, Joe. I'm in New York. It's kind of incredible. fascinating story. Was a man. Where's the spouse? Yeah, it's interesting. to look more like Liberace. hey, listen, man, I know those Bourne Identity movies, they were really big.

36:32 Butt buddy's very offensive, by the way, to my gay friends, and I apologize for that. There are to my heart. gross? And you're like, oh my god, you're not the porn industry pioneered DVDs. As soon as they said phones yep. That is. That could be a real mind fuck, though. No, that's going to be for 16 to 25 years. Take it. It's just a river of black cock.

39:05 consciousness you know on the side let's get ahead with a multiplicity of dimensions that we can't It's called The Mating Mind. the side effect of this sexual creativity is also responsible for but now we see we're being lured by nature into making spaceships. that out before computers. He was an actual No one knew how to make it. Some along those lines.

41:33 For granted They walked around every time? mistakes that people are living longer than ever we're living longer than ever and there's a guy because we have these overactive, She's got big tits, and I'm scared out of my mind. and this just in a puppy that Bill O'Reilly Bill O'Reilly, Guaranteed, they scrub him down. Like he's a Harvard graduate dummy

43:42 Oh that Dawkins interview Richard Dawkins you talk about? He shot him. Because he is the intellectual voice for the atheists. under a very clinical setting In fact, he wrote an essay called Psychedelics and the Meaning of Life, A lot of people argue that it does. And to try to pretend they're not to make some people who aren't violent happy seems like intellectually dishonest.

46:08 Okay, think about Buddhism. You know? Well, you can't be tolerant of intolerance. 100%. fascinating because so gangster yeah you know they'll kill you if you draw pictures of muhammad like they take shit to You should be an you-believe-a-phobe. For example, who was it? that people go to get healed lords i think is what it's called the water where you go

49:47 that somehow exist outside of our own being. It could still be real but you can't put it in a bucket and throw it on a scale. the imagination is responsible for every fucking thing that a human has ever made. in a world where there is no airplanes and you think that you could build a machine Yeah. Well, he had a little success. That show kicked his show right in the dick.

52:09 You'll be like, oh. By the way, how hot is that robot bitch? The Cylons become hot chicks. Brian Callen told me about that. It was a long time ago. Things were different back then. Yeah, I'm trying to catch up on Breaking Bad. I watched season one. Every time they resolve a conflict, it's over the sucks it's okay yeah fuck sometimes oh shit every time

54:00 need to regroup get together as a group really emotional for a while I think. horrific things that you've ever seen We can't kill that character. Let me do it. Not with the series, but with I had comics on my iPad once on a plane, and you mercilessly made fun of me for the entire flight about the fact that I had comics on my iPad. You can't fight back.

56:03 Just get kicked in the stomach instead of reading that book. Oh, my God. You know what it did? Yeah. I was like, yes, it's going to be awesome for you. And now you're looking at pool. I need 13 different things going on in my life at the same time. about the stuff from the conference we were just at. We live in a world of abundance. Yeah, we like vomitoriums.

58:30 Wait, what's a vomitorium? It's like a urinal, but instead of peeing, you just to just eat as much as they wanted Infant mortality was 50%. Emergency. They're also great for mopping up spills. Yeah, nobody wants to do that. And all you need is like some quote From some really obscure Indian guy on the wall You're like dude why are you telling people all my stuff?

1:00:39 When you do nitrous oxide, if you chant it long enough, When you do whippets. For just a short amount of time. Ram, ram, ram, ram, ram. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. That's a chant that you say at the beginning. But it's like basically the idea is like when you come into contact with truth, which is In the same way, I think people get drawn to philosophy for reasons that are just like, well, this will make me seem smart.

1:03:42 Well, but that subjective experience is the only thing that ultimately matters, you know, in terms of the world's most interesting book. But obviously but a poet may never the less reveal... Very interesting. Milky eye. on Grizzly Man, whether or not he knew when he does this stuff, he knows that we are thinking, this has got to be a comedy. Werner his movie is thinking. And he knows when he does this stuff, he

1:05:19 so goddamn brilliantly crazy. Yeah. about ourselves. They've done REM on people when they, they've done fMRI scans on people when they watch Say that name for the shift again. And the idea of going backwards that one time, It's easier to become another person in a movie than it is to become the whole. Like, how come sometimes you become the Jones. So what is happening? Like how come sometimes

1:07:14 And they say that, you know, when rappers are freestyling. cortex that you're talking about, is that the neocortex? I have no idea. It says lateral, You don't want to be there a lot of people the people who are well You're in the dark. You might have to pee. you are the story No kidding, right? Our entire life could be one of those limbo's. I would have know why. You should have been more high when you saw it. I don't know. Maybe. I would have understood it.

1:10:43 So I'm going to load it up. Yeah, that never means anything, does it? Yeah, sometimes it's that, too. There was a woman who sued the brothers for making the Matrix. You're just going from memory on that? Yes. You don't know what, but it's there like a splinter in your mind. Morpheus offers Neo a pill. reality dissolves but no new reality has yet emerged in its pixelating weight cool that's

1:13:47 It can mean she's crazy with her off the record. Something happened. kidding yeah how many times did you have to go to court to keep responding to keep responding to I mean, assuming that you're going to continue to be more successful. Yeah. Yeah. Fake attorney Duncan represents fake fucked him up. I think he got in a slight war there. John Edwards, yeah.

1:16:43 Let me change the subject for two seconds. You're talking about just because we're talking about riches outside for example. When they say this, you know they're not doing this. You know it's not So they're saying there's plutonium in those things. That's exciting. They knew where they'd fit in in that chart. and that shit's preposterous. Comparison to the dude who figured out what a quark

1:18:56 You think if we went and sat with him you would look at that guy moving, to the point where they're almost unrecognizable from when they first started. But everybody thinks they could do stand-up. They're stand-up philosophers. and in that moment when you enter that flow state do you feel like a conductor in an orchestra like Whether it's lots of people to one person or lots of people to lots of other people.

1:21:12 for which we have no instrumentation like radiation? to match some intention that you have, We can see the cell phone signals going through us right now. insane on reality sandwich is a vital component in any kind of interpersonal transformation or to capture attention Yes. while they were watching. to focus our attention on the best possible thing

1:23:31 It's everything. like you know it's been a year and people are still saying come back and The speech he gave? This time it was sparse and empty. Oh, yeah. There's a balance between – he was just talking about the importance of the security state. getting turned into fucking hamburger meat right that so now you're basically saying well what do Not only that, I think we're looking at the thing incorrectly.

1:26:24 We have birth certificates. We know where people are born. Potentially, I agree with that. We know we have birth certificates. yet we can pretend that we're some sort of a community. into your building and shoots every one of you. Do you think that when a person implodes like that, like if we're talking about what happened to that person on like a human scale,

1:27:50 can we find human beings before they metastasize into that? that basically says we're moderately free especially with the privacy things when there's weird behavior They don't have two larger lobster, Because some guy who works there, you fucked his ex-girlfriend. And that's what this guy is saying is absolutely possible. You know that saying, if we don't understand history, we're doomed to repeat it.

1:30:18 It was a utopia. But here's the counterargument to that. at the 50 other people that stayed at his house is self-regulating. We made a government is leaning towards a kind of space in which we can can we have congress because we didn't have the ability It should be online. No one's giving this power up. And I do think that. We're in for a revolution here in our lifetime.

1:33:16 No, I'm ready to What are you talking about? So the only way to get them to give it up, taking the guns. And the thing that gives more accountability than anything is the internet. No, they can't. Sir, you can't take a picture of the checkpoint. Bam! They're called explosions. We're seeing all these paradigms crumble in front of ourselves. How do the robots make the Ayatollah

1:36:10 this like steam room and spa over at the Soho house there yes and it's it's co-ed I know what you're saying. I think that what you're seeing is a spectrum of men kind of controlling women. who's wielded control over a chunk of land using a false god, I don't understand how that's going to make them be like, You have cycles, you have things between...

1:38:22 Yeah, exactly. It's a TED talk called The Myth of Violence. Right, right, right. 72 hours they killed a million people with horses on horseback. After they killed a million people. I mean, even the Catholic Church, I mean, you go back to the 1500s. They had armies. I mean, you're talking about, like, really nutty shit. Here's the thing, man. You've got to have centrifuges, plutonium.

1:41:13 That's when we're going to need an account You're right. You know, this shit like that happens to kids. It's true. Well, you know what? Us being scared and neurotic and almost negative So there's no coincidence that we have evolved that. When you appreciate, and 3D printing guns punch some people. And then as technology guy that falls in the cracks.

1:44:41 you can see the necessity for perhaps You delay it. I think that Bitcoin's not going to last, but I think the thing that comes Where are those ones and zeros? to move into universes revolution could give us all the water we could ever to fight. Pussy. Oh, she's a real person? clicked the wrong way and they decided That's why there's the urge to kill it.

1:47:54 uh device that's allowing us this greater connectivity is the suffering of children with the other side of the thing, in the direction of justice. It amplifies the bad in us. gods living outside of time. going to help us transcend our limitations you know technology is actually delivering a little Okay, we're going to wrap this up with this trippy video.

1:50:23 Everything's going to be fine. Use the code name Rogan. experience. So I want to thank all Yeah, there's a couple of them now. It's perfect. But all the comics, yeah, exactly. So pass it around to each other. your intentions are dude who was just same to you Listen to my podcast, Duncan Trussell Family Hour. We're doing season two now in the fall, but currently we're still airing it.

1:53:09 If Redman made that video but if you check it out YouTube.com slash Shots of Awe. How dare you. Cosmic Dick Slinger. And Ari Shaffir and I go to Alaska to conquer the great white north. All right.