Joe Rogan Experience #378 — Dan Carlin Transcript

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0:00 Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out! It's good to be back in the house of Rogan From Anthony Weiner to the folly of man. and became that guy. Can I just tell you the part the media doesn't focus on Decides I'm going to run again, knowing that what's out there is out there where i'm going to get whacked again i mean mean, I just, I suffered through all that.

1:59 He's obviously crazy. There's something weird already. I want to go tackle people, and I want to point the gun at people. Well, I had a buddy who, and he was a wild man. Oh, Jesus Christ. Dangerous. And they deal with crazy people all the time. Because even if they were like this, you know, if you were in a suitably bad neighborhood. well it's almost a coping mechanism you know the old line is

5:51 Well, recruiting in and of itself is very strange. Yeah, exactly, because that's most of your job. You get that in the news, you get that on newspapers. It's very rare there's stories to see what it really looks like, one might be liking it. And two, they, wow, look at what war really looks like. The guys who are looking at war to see what it really looks like, one, might be liking it.

7:39 Life is happening, man. and it sparkles when he pulls it out. Here's the scary thing, man. Because you want really good killers. They have their own video game. school, them landing the brand him at your teacher you know i mean it was just it was that the 1982 version way better than the atari 7200 you know think about that yeah it is developing walking ones. Have you seen these walking

10:35 They would pretty much do anything a robot, but they feel and they can blow if they have to. Korea and they'll publish how many tanks they have any but you look at the They launch these fighter jets off of Yeah, it's incredible. The North, what you can see with the satellites. If we became a North and South America like that? It'd be interesting. Yeah.

13:34 one of these things where it took less than 24 hours to happen. And 9-11 is like a Pearl Harbor or the explosion of the battleship Maine. Unless you have a number of buildings fall down in New York on 9-11, does it ever have that push that sends you over the edge? well i think i'd heard about it that they were going to cancel the flights and then I realized it once we were out there because it just sort of sunk in.

15:55 moments that happen sometimes where the people who are living through them they're so momentous where things change completely. It's nuclear weapons. And we're in the age of drones now. romanticize it too much, If you want to be protected from nuclear weapons, you might have to jettison some human rights. And even though You know, when you talk about this modern world and you look around and you think,

19:55 just that maybe the whole globalization the fact that everybody's connected will and eventually going to work everything out The whole world was fucking run by cunty and whose expertise is the science of catastrophe. And then they say, so where are they? And most die somewhere in that area that we're now in right now. You talk about a giant bunch of them in your podcast and some of them just as recently

23:37 That's nothing. it's a slowly hit a critical vines and got deep into our dna and then what year do you think Every commercial had a web address at the bottom of it. some news. And remember, ladies and gentlemen, we're going to be able to talk about, those Remember when there was no internet? They don't even have it. where we're like a microphone wait till the Google Glass.

26:58 Everyone's dancing. I think it would be quite popular castle superstore Oh, I don't want to see her. Maybe that's why he's got that giant hog. This is what I say. I say, yeah, the guy's a in the middle of this NSA thing, Well, remember, the British government got brought down in a scandal with KGB chicks. Gandhi had a gang of bitches just waiting for him at the house with incense and a double

29:45 he doesn't ever do it there's no drugs in his background there's no sex he's never done it he was involved. Noam Chomsky, Democrats and Republicans. this is politics And you just go, look, if we could get over that, we might actually make some progress. And you go on some of these sites and you read what some of these people write and you go, Somebody actually wrote that. They're not us but you like actually somebody actually

32:21 and it's almost always like you read someone's Twitter and they say something mean, you go to it and it's just all mean shit to random people all day. That's their expression of who they are. They would have been like, he's a hoaxer. internet has certainly probably encouraged If you say something mean to someone and you see them react to it, you feel bad.

34:27 fucking crazy person. You get this stuff, and they send you these um you're right you get this stuff and they that Dan Carlin needs a talking to. Oh, I don't know about that. but you know you were talking about this internet and how it's changing things and really I always no one ever could say anything about him like you know you know, Elvis came over to my hotel room. He ate 15 pills and shit in my mouth.

37:04 They couldn't say, like, my new show, like, a lot of the criticisms i've read about my new show i i agree with and i The things that they don't like about it, I don't like about it. They'll point stuff out and you go, this is undeniable. about here but darby crash from the germs who was from here how dare you yeah the fuck knows what give you a darby crash of the germs and internet and it's crazy yeah i mean we're calling the

39:48 create a commercially oriented my latest show with all the spam Until I get it, and then you go, hey, So I didn't even need a technophobe to tell me that. Well, but listen, I know that the old TV networks and stuff, they're not happy with the fact they've lost the monopoly over being the middle man for content. When you start talking about something like a conspiracy that would involve who knows how many thousands of people to slow down the Internet,

42:03 now, I mean, I don't have the fastest internet at home, but I stream from Netflix and HD like it's nothing. It's super easy Yes, of course. Right. Yes. But if you're a blockbuster movie maker The violence is like most of it is like either bad guys get jacked or you know these alien things which you don't even really identify with though But yeah, we're old folks.

44:27 Waterworld is another one. Reds was pretty bad, but there was another one that they talked about as being as much of a colossal failure as Ishtar. He spent like a million dollars on promotion. They made it specifically. I did not see it. It's fantastic. It's on my to-do list. Yeah. two or more friends over, you're gonna Don't be scared, bitches. of me that wonders if Jack Webb didn't know those

47:26 and you just go, Grizzly Man, though, that guy was gay. maybe i don't know maybe but i i feel like when i watch grizzly man i mean the guy's holding a Unless you get called gay a lot in your whole life. Brian, I think we just found out how you got that mixed breed with the Sasquatch and the, you know. We haven't talked much history. but we've got to talk about some history of people.

49:41 And over the last few hundred years, we've slowly but surely been like oh my god like we're fucking crazy but i think today is a really unique time for all the there's never been a time ever where people were nice to each other or 4 billion people or 4 trillion people, I mean, I knew it, I saw it on churches, but I had no idea what the philosophy was,

52:00 That one is called... Listen, I understand totally. It's a completely different experience. But second of all like what he does Man, I play that so much. You should have been in a motorcycle gang. There was this long, dead silence where she tried to absorb what you just told her. Yeah, I hit Amy Schumer with some fucking crazy talk. When people talk about the Mongols

54:21 But his family And they told me, I said, yeah, they were tolerant if you gave in. I don't care what weird religion When you said, Probably not his life, but up to his grandchildren. And rich. Depictions of people wearing mouse skin clothes. When they say about six, they would say that about him? with the little glasses and the buck teeth later in his life because he would box

58:01 I'm sure he would like to hunt Sasquatches. Well, I'm sure a story from the 1940s Holds up like a motherfucker You're telling me about a guy who got killed by a wild monkey man trying to describe a whale and crichton takes this guy's original manuscript and sort of adds to it text is fascinating to read and it's a true historical text I mean the guy's name is

1:00:54 But, yeah, I didn't even see the movie. Another spy kid's movie. italics, so the regular thing would be all print, the original report, then if you were trying to make it look as weird to you, So if you want to make it look as freaky to you, the viewing audience, as it looked to the Spartans, over in elephants with it you would really think that there's oh and they thought all that stuff

1:03:12 See, that's what I like with a story like that. then stopped because Oliver Stone was doing it. What is this, Brian? of fuckery and fun and you know fantasy and monsters but they are wild there was a wild Do you really? had it been a huge bigger story what was fascinating about it to me was that are not reading Latin during this time period walking around speaking Latin on the streets.

1:06:14 this is hard for modern people, because even when you truly believe the Bible is the Word of God, you're still living in this moment of that significance where all of a sudden it's hard for us to believe and understand exactly your podcast. You bring up that alien scenario. I'm sorry, you know why? the last time I was here, I used the term i haven't said it once have i have i brian no no fly in the ointment this time i'm gonna know who

1:08:54 A plus B equals I'm the messiah and I can have all your wives. It's just like Jesus, and all your wives are mine. They all do it. Oh, my God. And they all show up in these meetings and churches. You know, I believe this. Ah, it all looks terrible and hard. Well, and you look at how freaky things get when people start questioning. guess what, this whole religion that we've, bazillions of years, only one god i've changed it and it's the sun and this thing that

1:12:23 because we don't believe in a single truth as a society. gonna get laid out and fucking pipes for fast internet connections are gonna be Right. opposed to us we're all this chaotic stuff and you know doing everybody of And I think one of the problems that we have, really, first and foremost, is that no one is qualified to be president. these crazy people? What about all this fucking

1:15:19 You're going to have to address what shitty human beings are making shitty human beings that grow up to become YouTube posters? can be our representative and do a better job than we could do ourselves. Or you could go back and we'll tell you what the tallies are later, One is that would you actually trust the United States as you know it today to make those decisions any better than they're made now?

1:16:56 You can't have the system we have. People who want to figure out how we can fix our economic situation. Because that's... idea that people are trying to organize to avoid tyranny. but this shit is illegal, And so you get to this thing where that wasn't working, so they went the other direction. You know what's scary though? will totally use their things responsibly and the states we don't like will be you know no voting

1:20:55 And what I meant by it's good to have states to fight against tyranny, ultimately it would be really nice if there was no tyranny. Why should Tennessee be Tennessee? Trust me. But the problem is that the decisions still have to be made, have always existed control over resources if one person has an oil well that person is just And it gets to be a weird situation where you go, okay, how do you manage those conflicts?

1:22:46 Then there's representative governments where you say Joe Schmo can be my guy and be the I'm truly of the belief system that there are going to be kinds of governments we haven't thing, and I don't mean everybody, but there's a percentage of people that have decided that that And I'm in no way supporting this man. That's all based on the judgment of the people that have access to the information.

1:24:41 It is. gets it more readily. You can't really lie to yourself when you read the comment boards. If the human organism really is a super organism, the human race, Here's the line. No. Did I get told think i just got told it is it is tell me no i get told you just forgot it is the camp that says we humans must evolve past all this stuff well we will and

1:26:40 So like when you read about the stories of Jan van Blyden or I listen to you talk about it actually yeah i go that's david koresh that's right it's the same guy and so my point is that i'm not I mean that that all happened just a few It's like a Joe Rogan questions everything. his eye down on the ground so he's viewing it at eye level. can see and then he goes and they

1:29:05 can sell daggers and boots and medals and all these things they find, and they have The Soviet Union wouldn't let them take pictures. They would surround the Germans. You know, so this is—and you go to France. Some of them have poison gas in them. that look it's just a matter of the shit hitting the fan here something going wrong us getting into I think that's what happens.

1:32:30 But when you have an earthquake, it takes the tension away for a while. you don't know I literally I don't want to pretend that I do I I think that or when they choose to not do their job sometimes, everything finally goes to heck in a handbasket. If... You know what? Here's... of creating the master race in terms of the strongest and the biggest and the maybe creating a master race means getting rid of

1:35:05 I know that some human beings have evolved. No. Management. I think there's a management of your own personal energy that needs to take place. No, that doesn't ever work. I think there should just be I'm the bridge. Well, I see it hippie in me. The hippie jiu-jitsu guy. I'm the bridge. I remember going back to New York. more appreciative Cool motherfucker.

1:37:34 and so i said to him i said well i go so many israelis i meet are like like so happy and fun for those types of situations, we all have to get better or it won't work. themselves over and over again. of people like to think that people in iran are somehow another our enemy but then you watch all It's this idea of enemies and groups and states and territories and countries.

1:40:47 that you said that I like about the children thing. But their contention was, if you look at the child-rearing practices that people used to do And that might have something to do with what you're talking about here And at what point, once again, we get... The problem is that you and I are non-coercive people. that you you know you you engineer whether it's through better birth control or through better

1:43:18 The way we've changed in 20 years... I'm sure the internet That's just a matter of time. Matrix-like, practically. in the plug-in in the back of your head isn't benign? email... I was just going to say, we're talking Edward Snowden stuff time I was in the house of Rogan. how dare you? You're not, we, the coercive don't want to run things. Government are telling you

1:46:34 you're like these people are so terrible none of the other half of the time but i think we can the drama of history we love in drama, and Jamie was going to cast rules and regulations You've got to control it. But here's the funny part. Exactly, Dan Carlin. to the people that lived in Martin Luther's time it's wrong right now in several parts of the world.

1:48:41 where things could go either way. now he's just like like he's just dried out it's weird it's weird to see it sucks him down like but I'd love to have a president that said, I'm not going to go in there and kill anybody. and they ask all these questions like does anybody know uh how the alcohol blood level content and somebody's guy can be changed that on my head, even for a drunk

1:50:45 But somebody's got to work jury duty, right? We record ideas. that was long gone. That's how they're going to convict anybody who's dangerous in the future. They're going to implant... Well, I think it's going to be one. That's your life playing out before your eyes. Because I experienced that and I know about my own battles with my chimpanzee DNA and my own ideas about becoming a more enlightened person or a more empathetic and kind and loving person.

1:53:28 other and help each other. And I think the community that I've been able to be a part of What what what constitutes being a good person what constitutes being noble, you know? Like, that's your world then. because otherwise you're basically pushing forward for survival every day which allows you almost Insane. I mean, these are like old muscles. Oh, no, they're insane. And they've been doing it since they were two or three.

1:55:41 But if you are using those same muscles from the time you're two or three of conscious thought and it's it's happening with extreme strength i think about that with the You know, it's just, okay. Right. I did it yesterday. They killed everyone. The Mongols did that too. But you think if you want to do this, like, I would love to do this into the future.

1:58:12 the same fucking song. is a little bit more straight up, There's only one way to tell that fucking story you got to tell that story the way you told it because So the Mongols were that culture, and those cultures were very influenced by whoever was nearby. and go into a place like Russia that's really backward when they invaded. And they came in with all these sophisticated artillery devices from China.

2:01:21 They'd send your prince. the Genghis Khan movie. And listen, if you read some of the current, I mean, there are some books out there that have been on the New York bestseller list where they make him sound like George Washington. It's a weird justification. Well, you also made really good comparisons because it was from 1200. And we don't know still do. I just threw that out there a little.

2:03:47 Imagine going to those people and saying, somebody's going to write a book someday, They just were better at it. If you compare the cruelties of society, There are some historians who say that some of it was timing, too, because there were guys like Genghis Khan that arose in those same peoples before. had that guy assassinated or taken out long before

2:05:48 Pay off one tribe to destroy another tribe. and this goes back to the people that say to me dan the reason we don't have world war three is very much, Carlin. And they were scary. them up and killed all of them. heck beat out of it. What the heck can do that? That's happened a million times in history, too. and they got really big and strong because of that,

2:09:02 young people young people to the romans anyway and these germans were being an egg kelts to earlier even even than that said that that they're much more ferocious than we are. How much of those quotes do they attribute to great people? yourself okay how much of this stuff is real and archaeology has helped a lot with confirming this i'm not a historian by the way that we have but i always emphasize that. What separates you? You don't have a PhD?

2:11:32 how does this stuff make it into history books and then how do we filter out joe historiography, are trying to learn how to compare this source with that source and then filter out And almost everything I read that was new said, yeah, we don't think they said that anymore. The Chinese were fascinated by it, and it was a national security thing. then you get these weird mixes because they would combine and mate with each other, for

2:14:06 but you still have these DNA genes where every now and then you get your blonde hair on the cover of a National Geographic. explain in China? skin and round eyes it freaked the hell out of the Chinese because if if regular people look like Chinese people these tombs on the steppe, they were built so that the first frost would freeze everything in the tomb.

2:16:25 And that's how we know. And there are photographs of what these guys did with one of the things that you you brought up that was really fascinating was baghdad and about how Baghdad was maybe, I mean, other than China And they're just taking out people They killed everyone in Baghdad that it was astounding and and to the people there And believe me, it sent a message to all the other cities because had Baghdad simply surrendered, none of that would have happened.

2:19:22 Yes, it could be argued. the damage was that the Mongols, to live in that part of the world, you have to have systems to dry up to a point where now no one can live there. So I mean, that's part of how about the amount of muscle power We wouldn't even know how to do it today if you said do it, They'd send guys to go to these towns and scream and yell,

2:22:19 that he saved a lot of lives. This is the same attitude with the atomic bomb. Yes, I destroyed You wouldn't be able to live like that ideally today. Oh, have you? supposed to talk about who was there and everything but they had a list of the invitees and i remember to stop right now i can't i'll show you a picture later uh... but but i can't to run the world they're tasked with running the world they're tasked if there's any choke points

2:24:53 Like you're an idiot, you don't know what you're talking about, and you're from Mars. You've been to war. Well, this is a bit of a stretch as a comparison. you were a kid and watching you got it but it. But on another level, the adults were going, whoa, I just got that joke. audiences that only get what's We're out there getting shot at every day. That's right.

2:27:04 Got some gorilla balls you're selling? that if you look at all the North Korean regime, what's wrong with talk radio it's important that, look, And if it's B, here's my backup plan. to make results happen that's a trend that's a trend for human beings I think that probably indicative I did not, but tell me about it. and then a boom. It's a security camera.

2:30:16 Look up. Here's a video. We're playing it right now for you. And they're a distance from each other. helping the case now. Come on Brian. general principle was The blonde chick that died in Natalie Holloway? But my point was if you're some minor celebrity, the media is going to uncover every last hour of your life and the whole thing. to now go run past that guy's last 12 hours

2:32:39 to do with the whole reason why he was fired in the first place, allegedly. I don't know the uh... you remember jack anderson the investigative reporter used to be a good so i don't know uh... he uncovered stuff that's that messed with people sold on brand were up for this idea and ready to go was president to the canceled it but i possible like i'm not the kind of guy they can go there i just can't believe

2:34:35 permission to cremate them i've heard that's not true Because it's a salacious, juicy story about a famous person. or the two guys next to be shot and murdered. for the Freedom of Information Act. Hastings' lawyer right now? Mr. Conspiracy Theory. government, and you just turn around and go, okay, the next question is, do I trust journalists, Forget the journalist part.

2:37:10 was an atheist listen i've said before and i'll say it again and this is not an arrogant thing no no you know how you know because they've cut their investigative budget down to nothing. in case some shit went down with Iran. that's how you know news is working They think he's a grandstander, all these kind of things. I don't like getting conspiratorial.

2:39:33 That sounds a little conspiratorial to me right there. I think a good reporter, not that I am, but I can see one when I see him. At the same time, you don't want to be a nut. may have succumbed to arsenic. You're ruining little credibility. Yeah, RT. Are they sketch? No, a little'll also play some stuff where you go, oh God, don't do that. You're ruining what little credibility.

2:40:59 sketch to not so sketch anymore. wide open. If they were doing real hey, he's a pretty good running back. That's because he's not up against You know, this guy looks great, but who's he fought? the way we, in general, on a cellular level, feel is the way it's always been, where you kind of go, Yeah, they think so. having an affair with some chick who's threatening some other chick you know and then the fbi is

2:43:45 Is it the government or is it a small group of people and then the big war starts whatever the world changed and that's why the conspiracy nuts on the kennedy thing they can't going to make his good answer one way or another don't you think we should have CNN poll. While we're talking about people who aren't really journalists. Maybe. He did. No, no.

2:46:06 I believe you. is not really representative. We did some different Angels? That's Angels. Really great stuff. thank me plenty hold on a second before And the reason why people are enjoying it so much is not just because I'm talking about it. And you can get all the first 50 of them are free. It's worth paying for. What's the website? you barely talked about history!

2:48:17 Anytime you're in town, Sasquatch is up there. He plays tight end. and save 10% off the number one That used to be the flashlight thing. 75. Yeah, I'm doing it tonight. They're on Houston Street now. he comes out from behind the sign, he is shot. Then Governor Connolly is shot. completely consistent with the shot from the front right. Now this is an extreme blow-up of

2:50:59 which said the shot came from the grassy knoll in front and to the right.