Joe Rogan Experience #388 — Mick West, Bryan Callen Transcript

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0:00 Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out! I'd known about your website before, Contrail Science. oh, that totally makes sense. And they want to think that it's geoengineering. clouds it is geoengineering. One of the things that I really enjoy about what Those are like real issues. For sure they have. It is, yeah. a lot of people in the chemtrail community, Well, they are fanatical in their belief.

4:45 things like, let's shoot them down. There's people who actually do go out with laser pointers that the artificial clouds that are created by jets flying around all the time, that they So during the 9-11 shutdown what was seen was there was an increase in the range of And the fake ineffective problem, being that they're spraying us to poison us, they're

7:16 which does such a shit job is poisoning people, but, you know, the water's been fluoridated for decades and there really I do not know if that's true. The reason I say that is because they've done a lot of comparisons between... The reason, first of all, I think it was that you'll get tooth decay. Then they compared For the total population, does it actually have a worthwhile effect?

9:15 Oh, I see. it today, over the last X amount of years, toothpaste has been fluoridated. What sample study do you have of people that are not using fluoride, you know, fluoridated It's pretty good toothpaste. It is a natural occurring... It's a mineral, isn't it? The conspiracy theory about it was that it was created by the Nazis, Are people stupid nowadays?

11:04 until you run into stupid people. There's no, there's no, doesn't always seem to be a lot of imagination out there. Yeah, I think human beings have always done that when they had to. But, you know, yes, conflict is a big driving force. By the way, who are the Fluoride Action Network? There's a case behind it. Like, listen, see, you're going to dump this in our water

13:51 And the only thing they could think of to do was to put it in the water supply. shipped in from the center of the earth. Yes, you got to go to Switzerland. It's not just platelet-rich that's made out of your own blood. 81 milligrams or something like that, Could you imagine if we found out that our leaders were really pouring stuff It'd be hard to kind of get one small

17:22 They look so happy. They look happy. who you understand so well. to hold his balls in place. because they have a deal to sell this fluoride to the water people, just to make like $1 billion. the world has ever known. And smart. Saltpeter, though. I know they use it in, from what I understand, I guess they use it in prison. What does it do? What else is there to do?

20:07 and then downloading it into something that we create. and you're running around jumping over buildings and you're not even made out of tissue anymore. USB to USB in your brain, and all of a sudden Brian Callen exists in a super body, or the big discussion, rather, is how much of this is science fiction or the big discussion rather is how much of this

21:21 that our brain may very well be a hologram, fucked about those theoretical quantum physicists guys they'll show you like in numbers well they of a hologram It doesn't mean anything. that you can test. and it really had no bearing on the physical world. That's what blows my mind. And that's what fascinates me is somebody thinks up an incredible mathematical equation a hundred years ago for no reason.

24:23 And they look at it like people look at baseball. They look at it like people look at baseball. about things. He's talking about, like, I was on the There is a great, great guy who just died. And he said, what do you mean? They don't even know each other. And he would come up with these incredible answers Right. I wonder why he went after them. mad. That's craziness.

27:21 People can't relate to math. Yet isn't Twitter the mechanism by which you do it? At some point, you've got to do a little bit of math to check your science or your theory or whatever it is. I mean, you're not talking about, like, people always like to use the Manhattan Project as Right. here? What we're looking at here is this very blinder-edged look of the world where you're just choosing to focus on one aspect of something that you're seeing.

29:47 I think a lot of people look at skepticism and cynicism as being equal, are just automatically disbelieving everything, and always keep doubt in his mind, right? And what I really like about the way you do it that wasn't even really harp. I never buy those stupid shit. I saw a forest of them. I was 15 years old. Oh, my God. This is like one possibility that a pattern can get started, and then it follows and becomes a tradition,

32:34 They have all sorts of things that I just did an interview with him. He was on The Ultimate Fighter, and he said the one thing we don't die of is stupid diseases. Pygmies are always high. That's so cool. And they spend a lot of time A lot of times they'll just watch their kids run around and play. He goes, elephants, and you always sneak up on them by accident,

34:20 with really light skin. Oh, he's a great guy. he went over there and he started helping these people, like he had this massive sense of helping, heavily as any of us do, regardless of how frequent it happens. It's always a soul crusher. correctly and to keep food on the table. But they're really just like these plastic things So they think, oh, it must be like FEMA stockpiling coffins.

36:41 I want to hear him hitting on a girl. I am. Because people will take just the fact that you're explaining where they were wrong it's a real problem with even doing this nice as much as I can got a lot better yeah I got a lot better because you used and they're not really even there for you for six months, you'd avoid that like the plague Because I should have learned that and I never did.

39:17 There was a much more level-headed way of looking at it. you're a nice guy, but here, this is my where you get nowhere. I don't know what the fuck I did, Where's that coming from? Don't be a cunt. for things because he would always have 15 different You would go to all those things. I think that's why you hung out with me a lot, right? This is his place.

42:11 I was like no as a good person that you are Like, when you had a crazy person in your life, you were more than willing to listen. Right. The amount of time I wasted just You know, it's just, you do, you do a lot of, it's a lot of it just self-sabotage in a way. really want to be do is like turn inward and figure out why the fuck you're doing the weird

44:56 And a lot of times people feel like there's forces holding them down. Why are you really doing that? They weren't dumb. He was a cool guy. no big deal. You just Yeah, I do believe you're right. Or like, you know, let me explain that. But if you can look at what you're actually doing and try to improve the way you're communicating with these people and try to reach

48:11 You do a great job of avoiding that. But his friend, when I go into his office, I walk in the door, they have a picture of this Indian guy. food. And I go, Right. You can't live. I mean, you can't just say that to me. I would like there to be elves. scam artist right there right there there's a scam artist right there trying to get laid by reading about your lifeline

50:37 and then you just like I just woke up lady's place and Oh, yeah, yeah. Monkey bite everybody. Okay, she was the only one to get a hold on to this monkey. That's a big scam. She had a monkey? Yeah, she had a monkey. Yeah, a monkey's name was Chi-Chi. Monkey bite everybody. they were renting a room to in North 9th Street parts. Everybody always used to talk about that.

52:05 they did block busting, they moved people in completely changed and became really scary and dangerous On edge all the time. My grandmother grandfather in this terrible neighborhood in North 9th Street in Jersey, in Newark. it was all like fenced off. Yeah. because it was just so dangerous. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I mean, he's a master mentalist. I know where the dollar bill came from because it reading the serial number the dollar bill that came from my pocket okay I know

55:13 You don't think I'd be able to feel a man's hands that close to my dick. I'm like a leopard, bro the top of its body. Wow. all tricks right he tells you he's like i am not magic i don't have psychic powers he goes i'm just the two guys were actually the And he completely fooled them for several months. Yeah, he's a fascinating cat. Failed everything.

57:53 And Ed knew how to get it up to a million, which is higher than Chi Masters. light. I mean, I have a fucking thing And then they claim that they have this proof and this evidence that they can do detecting like ESP and stuff. I don't know if you have brothers and sisters. It was a twitch in his arm or whatever, and he recognized patterns over years, and that's

1:00:10 he's going to attack. And people that don't know animals are the ones that get attacked. He said, Mind reading of the bear. Not that I'm thinking there's anything wrong and I'm not saying Right? It's actually, you're the problem. And I bet if you've seen that from a person and you're like, oh, Jesus, you see a guy Those crack scientists and detectives.

1:02:28 pointing him with sticks. Yeah you have to. I know but instead of running the fuck out. They have to Oh, shit! Lions can only be pushed so far, man. What a nightmare it must be for those people. Just get out of that cage. I don't mean anything I'm saying. You assholes. boundaries of human possibility and I also don't know if what is possible today is going to be

1:05:26 You're right. Their ultimate goal, the Google Glass, is to be able to have an implant. It's like normal evolution has stopped for humans. and create some shit with the imagination, the imagination that lives inside the biological It's sort of like a natural part. to figure out rogaine keeping some of your. There's a few things they're still working on.

1:07:20 Yeah. Well, I think that also they're probably going to be a full, complete XY chromosome woman. will essentially be 100% female. She is a real woman. I just read Warrior Princess and I'm having them on my podcast, she, with the way he was raised and wearing them He'd be on a sailboat dressed like a woman every single day. Was that an extended plug?

1:09:36 The point I'm making... Maybe perhaps you could get her a flak jacket. That was a plug. Yeah, I've talked about that on the podcast so many times. The mechanics of the different shaped hips, there's far less likelihood of ACL injuries for men just because of the shape of the hips. Yes. then I don't think it can ever be safe. And I have zero issue with anyone wanting to change their gender.

1:12:33 Like Serena Williams, who's a natural woman, but a really big, powerful athlete. So now where's that? As long as your levels are the same. endogenous chemicals. So there's an issue with that. There's an issue that I think has not been Oh. It's very significant. It gives you a significant advantage. And then What are you, crazy? And there's an evolution that we don't want to accept.

1:15:48 skin? How long bone fixed when it breaks. The first 150-year-old man has already been born. Giant waves of change that will make the world representation of the humans that are living on this planet as far as the distribution of resources from communicating with people over the last few years that more people are paying more attention It's a very good book.

1:19:02 I mean, it's just, this is a completely different world. mommy, what's your password? then the question becomes, to what end is that? It's inevitable. I can do stand-up now in, you know, And you're talking about your audiences in New York. To Raleigh, North Carolina. or 500 years, I don't know. I don't know how long it's going to take. But if innovation continues

1:21:33 They got that Clovis comet that they've now confirmed hit somewhere around 12,500 years ago. There's going to be a slow death of civilization. and man is behind it. that this is. The idea that just because the Earth's temperature fluctuates doesn't mean It's just silly. And one of the ones that I argued with this guy who created the documentary was straight off of your site.

1:24:00 And so he tests this stuff, That's what this says. It's fucking everywhere. talk to many people that believe that those clouds are aluminum and something else like floating in the air. But if you talk to anybody who's actually seen aluminum, it wouldn't look anything like a fucking cloud. But even that doesn't last. That's the spray nozzles condensing the air.

1:25:56 on Tower 7? Yeah. And it's one of the big problems with debunking is that there's just an endless stream of things that people will bring up. oh my God, they detonated that thing for sure. it fell uniformly, kinked in the middle and metal and the weight of the And sometimes you have these giant fires off and that fell and that kind of That video is very misleading because a lot of the times people show you this video of the building collapsing and they show it from

1:28:57 Yeah, it's nonsense though because it doesn't burn hot enough to melt it. shitty building. God damn. But is that true? They write things down on paper. I don't think he expected that to happen either. It was like several floors and several sections of it, Only two major floors, I believe, right? Why is that? There's the fires. I just have to take the Alex Jones point of view

1:31:49 Well, what he's saying is that it pretty much did a collapse. I look at that, and the way heads? They're just kind of the of large buildings and their reactions to fire. a controlled demolition to me, but again, This building, man. had documents. There was a photo that someone had sent me. he's an author of questionable literature. when they were doing cleanup. That's from a

1:34:24 There was this devastating, right, right, right, right. That's a big ass fire. of the tower for the record debate the structural merits of this Bottom of the barrel, architects. silly bitch that's the big argument Donna Summers died of lung cancer. She didn't even smoke. Yeah, that's something that doesn't get taken into consideration But there's been, like I said don't know. I don't know. I don't know what happened.

1:37:23 Here's one point that I bring up whenever people talk about happen. Just like a lot which was very difficult. See, I wouldn't say that I believe that entirely without any pause, of the Northwoods document was exploding a fake plane and pretending it was filled with that to take place, we don't know. They're dead. Yeah. The more likely scenario is that they pulled off

1:39:59 They went to school for it. I mean, the FBI knew this this and we have documents about this. We knew these people were studying, we're at flight simulation schools. We know that. they wanted to fly right into a fucking building and smash into it. What I'm saying is that I do know that there was some sort of technology My father said that. We do have that one from the parking garage where you can see it for a few frames.

1:42:19 Within inside sort of where it was security cameras Yeah, the other thing is like, who the fuck is in charge of this, right? Allah Akbar! Allah Akbar! All their videos are going to start with that. They're going to show the main war building getting hit by a jet. Allah Akbar! Allah Akbar! record anything. Yeah, that's what I would I don't buy that.

1:43:42 and toss it in the ocean. I need that bin Laden sickle. And then, let me tell you something, Brian. I'm straight. I took it up the ass so I wanted to hear the end. did you know that three buildings fell on 9-11? Yeah, because it's the thing that they think is the real biggest bit of evidence. Yeah, there's this Dutch demolition expert and there's this famous video of him saying,

1:45:30 Really? No. Right. and I uncovered some secrets, Mick West is a government agent No I'm not but I think We are both actually in the Illuminati, by the way. Is there something that you had but he also is realistic that conspire to do things, you know, even though, you know, did Oswald kill JFK? I don't know. I or that this bullet had, they had Not only that, much more realistic to think that they really did hire this mob guy to

1:49:08 He owed money. There's a conspiracy there. Oh, look, we found the bullet in almost pristine condition. They did replicate it, but when it hit bone, Oh, I disagree. I disagree on that one That's a good show. Even if it did, let's say that, obviously, I wasn't there. caused all that damage, I think the biggest thing is Jack Ruby There's more than enough evidence to indicate that there was more than one person involved.

1:52:01 he decided to do his own one? I couldn't believe how steep that trajectory was. He because you can't do it satisfactorily. it's you know i've had long debates about that on on the forum and uh it's just a very hard thing to if you're getting shot from the front. based on the difference between Who knows how much shitty thinking is involved, how much of it is a personality conflict between a general and a doctor who doesn't want him in the room.

1:54:43 Just don't see Oswald being like, Guys who had always had trouble fitting in and his wife at the beginning of World War – that sort of sparked World War I. I'm thinking about the guy who shot the Archduch Ferdinand and his wife at the beginning of World War, I can't remember the guy's name Yeah. It was creepy. It was like a landmark. You were just talking about assassins

1:56:46 the evidence has been gone over with a fine-tooth comb, that you're never going to be able to close it. Of course, you know all these things. I did his radio show. He was running back. You're just doing a radio show. I love you. He's my boyfriend. Oh, he's a beautiful person, man. The guy we shot, we did Meat Eater with with a cool gig rather, bag of cloth.

1:59:38 This guy, he goes hunting. Did you, bitch. How about you email him? What about Elvis? Yeah. They don't turn your car into a drone. So he was shot in that kitchen? Your turn. Is that what you're saying? You fucked up. What do you get? And we were out there steady squatching. in the sky and you don't know what they actually are. Tell me if you look at that, in your heart, in your soul, you know that that could be a real alien.

2:03:07 of UFOs. You're turning on Mick. proof necessary. All you need to know is that the sky is huge Do you know the story? Just because one of the most traumatic moments able to see reality. for nine months? You're basically blind. They're closed. It's a pussy if you're going to have sex with it. If it's your daughter, it's a vagina. Well, what would be a traumatic moment that you really did squash?

2:06:00 I don't think there's a real clear It's a very similar archetype. They were actually a boomerang shape, what he was saying that he saw. Or on meth. And it was people didn't even know it was bad for you then. They had what they're pumping into this fucking I hear ProVigil really works. It is Some weirdos, you know, I had a doctor who was a sleep specialist.

2:08:48 And so they said, okay, narcolepsy. Well, I'll tell – let Brian describe it because I gave one to Brian when he was about to fucking fall asleep once. tired, I'll take a half of one before where I just need to lay down for a bit or just, like, meh. That's very important. And I know that it's a big rumor amongst Silicon Valley startups that like all these guys are just provigiled out of their mind.

2:10:41 your personal responsibility for introducing it to people. I mean, if you split it down to like little teeny pieces, it might be okay. Yeah, that Adderall thing, though, is a real issue with folks. who basically worked in industry, and then they go work in the government, and then there's there's a show on Current? Was it Current? Yeah. Literally, they go, oh, my back hurts.

2:12:54 they want to sell candy bars in school, I like how you said that. And it's based on, you know, you can look at it, the influence, very clearly. It's so crazy. You now move to a lobbying firm just down the way on K street. And that other option being the internet. So the Commission for Presidential Debates, a privately funded institution, The people that are

2:16:28 The thing I worry about that, the thing I have a problem, what worries me is that you're Do you think that motherfucker deserves equal money? But using the internet as a source like that is, to me, another option outside of the corporations that hasn't been addressed yet. on a regular basis that we need to take over people's, people's privacy, that we need to be

2:18:26 The history of government is that, to gain more and more control. There's a lot of real issues that people need to deal with that they didn't have to deal with when the Constitution was written. government, when they were trying to separate church and state, what they were trying to you still have to think they saw corruption coming. When you write about conspiracy theories

2:20:21 that I can just kind of point them to other sites I've seen these debates that you get online with these people just on Twitter. explanation, throw up a link, and then they would just be like, ah, fuck. You can't win. It's really important that we look at the truth, the real truth, You and I talk about this all the time. You know, I love Michael Shermer's quote.

2:22:35 Gee, never done that. So that maybe their point makes sense. person, you're eloquent to yourself. Well, it's also in being a smart person. And you're convincing yourself because if you're an eloquent person, you're eloquent to yourself. It becomes about debating So they'll end up saying, oh, that's not chemtrail, that's smoke from the planes. because I get people coming onto my site

2:24:52 Can we agree? saying they have fucking documented proof Where have you got this proof stored? There's no empirical evidence. And the idea that I could debunk this one place, Right. that people keep seeing in this area And if you didn't expect to see that, No, the evidence is that a lot of people do just make up stories. It's insulting to me that you think I'm so fucking dumb

2:27:59 My point is, it's insulting. And if it is real, wow. They're having personal experiences. which is when all these fucking things take place, You're not in a spaceship. But really, you're just being somewhat scientific about it. And incredibly butthurt, if you call them on it. God damn it. No one's more butthurt They're lazy. You fuck a government shoe.

2:31:15 people do try to do shit. The theorists, they also go into the things to a lot of breadth but not depth. not true. But as soon as you start and he has these readings that he did with these crappy cheap meters that he had. I love you for it. He went from one thing to the next. He'll say, well, what about the gaps in contrails? And it's like, there were actually, like, 20

2:33:39 going off on this long litanies where he would repeat his like 12 talking points. Right. Yeah, Neversoft. I didn't leave to go debunking. Neversoft all day. So you owned that company It started with, on Wikipedia Yeah, we covered much more Morgellons in the show Lyme disease apparently, when a tick bites you, and this is the most recent thing from the Morgellons conference that I went to in Austin of this year.

2:36:32 of something that comes along with the Lyme disease. No, he didn't invent it, but he was part of the Morgan Islands Research Foundation, which doesn't exist anymore, Damn it. that it's something What do you think it is? They can. Like people just, they get a follicle. We can keep going on. Thank you very much. or the one that I tried that I reached out to passed

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