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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Rapper, author, all around cool guy, video maker. I'm going on my third year. In fact, the New York Post did an article on the top 10 places in the world that are America, by default, should get 50 extra points. A lot of fountains. Where did he go? It's almost like too much to the left. Beautiful. shut down. I agree. That last episode that

2:28 the movie theaters well it's actually the the weird there's a weird thing that happens with yeah we were just and put it on that TV they're fucking slacking They should have jumped on all this, 4K, all this. Yeah. Newton. He was showing me around Disney, and he had one of those bad boys. Smelling them. I would just smell it for an hour. Do I feel like hide this logo? No, no we that stuff that Cocoa Cafe

5:15 YouTube thing? Yes. Quentin Tarantino, But his crazy manifests itself in the fact that he's some sort of a strange chameleon. Because he's hanging out with Jamie Foxx, doing radio with Jamie Foxx, and he's talking so black. ...quoted movies in Hollywood with just the lines that... About pleasing your fans or pleasing the critics for you? And if you see him do other interviews where he talks to regular media people like on CNN or or Fox News, and none of this ever comes out.

7:21 Like he just sits in the mirror the hood, to my knowledge. when he was like 6 years old But he relates. of weirdness that you get by being for him to process emotions or something. like, he was being, like, very submissive. Right. You know, submissive to the king, you know, and then he was talking to Jamie that himself. Right. It's almost like when he's talking to Howard Stern, like he was being like very submissive.

9:18 It also makes him do that. That's interesting. Film is a lot cheaper. film's more cheaper of getting all the footage? And they did something with Vice. Yeah. It would look too weird. but I will say that you like, like, those consumer camcorders, You could never quite capture the life that you wanted to. Like I watched the Steve McQueen movie Le Mans the other day.

12:07 At least 10 minutes. Yeah, a lot of old films are hard to fucking finish, man. about modern cinema. That's like some old shit the first confrontation? Paul Newman was a bad motherfucker. enough with his entire catalog. this is gonna drive me nuts I don't know old lady trivia how do you know that I Yeah, well, he definitely had one called Oscar. Okay.

14:54 Estelle Getty from Oh, Ma, I can't believe this. Yeah. OK. That's the other rumor. To my knowledge, a lot of those shots are from the waist up. How Tall is Stallone? Yeah. floor whereas they would walk their path he would be high yeah well he played and I don't think that was necessary but in his mind the character had to be He's got some good ones.

17:49 He's 5'7". I gotta be honest. Yeah, because he was in disguise. in Mission Impossible? When you see a guy and he doesn't fucking have to. He's the best. fucking tent and i don't know if that helped his performance, but whatever Yeah, Daniel Day-Lewis was a boxer for a whole year for when he played that Irish the IRA guy Right. so you can so he's fucking nuts. Are you kidding?

20:38 Salmonella, I think. Is vegan cheese good for you? It was like asteroids. I don't know. We were talking about Daniel Day-Lewis. Yes. Traveler's diarrhea. Dude, no exaggeration. It was terrible. It's the most common illness affecting travelers. It doesn't really say here. Developing country is this from water or is this from the like the meat that they eat? Her you know

23:49 You've got to throw them away and not flush them. That'll permanently damage the plumbing in your house, won't it? Oh. Okay. seen it it's a probiotic drink and it actually has live organisms that you're digesting and uh Yeah. infecting you as easily. Do you think that's the next Needs bacteria to... I mean, it's... from that. They want you to take in healthy bacteria and try to repopulate your gut.

26:55 Yeah, it's very weird. So many people's hands as I'm sure you do with your fans and stuff and you don't want to be a dick and then the with like two cats and two dogs. And as usual, folks have done no testing on any of these himself with hookworms got infected and it cured his asthma and then he tried to start a company But what you're saying is true because allergies and asthma aren't present in a lot of those countries.

29:11 It really is. I love that George Carlin bit where he talks about how he used to swim and shit. And that's No one is saying, like, Apparently, there's parts of Brooklyn where more oil has spilled off of Brooklyn than the Exxon Valdez. I can't find it. This is in the fucking news. The FDA classified his kits as pharmaceuticals That's so nasty. There's no way to avoid it.

32:24 I don't know. You wonder. I don't know. I have no idea. place that has condensed life and uh just complete isolation from human like influence like no no one's going in there and building shopping malls and there's no roads everywhere and you know trees all sorts of different army ants is incredibly dense life, like everything, the amount of moisture there, the heat,

34:18 they have parasites that swim up your dick. water, if you try to pee in the water, they Of course they will. Because he's a fucking cunty monkey. there's one where it actually shows them. Yeah, Massachusetts. Or best yeah No fish. I guess there's probably Oh, yeah, that's completely different. You're right. They just found it. How the fuck did they not know? We don't know much about the bottom of the Pacific Ocean. Dude, that's fucking insane. And they didn't even know it existed. How the fuck did they not know?

37:21 Well, that's the argument for things like Bigfoot. Mauna Loa used to be the world's largest volcano. tall it erupted for a few million years during the early Cretaceous period about Dude, the harp thing? It's like ridiculous. Yeah, fuck another American so obsessed with his own bullshit tsunami and earthquake. Right. Right. They had backup for, like, eight hours.

40:55 Right. That's fucking terrifying. I've been eating mad fish lately just because I feel like one day I won't be able to. Well, you live in Kansas City. No one's worried and we're going to go. And that's what you do is you fucking go catfishing. And you can catch them with your hands. The size of these fucking catfish Huge. Kazakhstan or some shit. That's something

43:40 but there's a video I don't know. No, no, no, no, no, no. But it's pretty goddamn big. not even the craziest animal that lives in fresh water you ever seen an alligator gar a what Their teeth are filled with these crazy fucking sharp teeth. That's not even that big of one Oh, Jesus Christ. That is terrifying. I know. It measures between 8 and 10 feet fucking long.

47:21 I give zero fucks. Look at that, though. I believe it's just Mississippi record, right? When I was a kid, I used to live in Florida, Alligators were there all the time. No. Like, they were concerned with the alligators, their population. shooting rifles into the water, setting traps. But like, you know, some animals, when they get too crazy, they stop the season thing and they just say,

49:46 Wild pigs in Texas are so bad right now. And there is a guy pretty much every 20 miles or so that is employed by the state that walks around with a whip and he whips baboons off the street because they fuck with people's but they look kind of dog-like. They're freaky-looking fucking animals. And they'll break into, like, if you leave them open, they'll break into your hotel room, just ransack your shit.

51:30 that show baboons' teeth. They're walking down the sidewalk. completely successful. Some mayor got killed by a pack of monkeys. Like wolf-like or something. Or it was two weeks ago where seven people got bitten by a bear? So you can't outrun them. No, it just does it. It's getting weird, man. It's getting really weird. probably gonna have to move probably have to move out here because of some of the stuff that's going

54:22 Oh. That smell of In-N-Out, I picked the box up. That's an issue. overwhelming to you. Whereas if you go to a small town, what I like about driving in a place like Boulder or something like that is people wave to you. Most road rage, you're not seeing road rage in empty roads. I think you appreciate them more. other people that would otherwise have opportunities i don't know you know we were

57:15 But there's a lot of music that's not my style, where it gets really weird see that's one of the reasons I would come here is, is to parlay what I'm doing into writing. Well, you're a funny writer, dude. And it happens a lot where you have these two men teams and they're monsters and it happens a lot So I go into Homeboy's office. If you're wearing bowling shoes, I assume you're

59:23 sharp. There's like, there's nothing, I mean, like, maybe he pours it all out in his writing maybe he's his bland guy make it to a certain point without ever really doing anything why they won't let me write it because it's my shit. Teleplay. It's on a fixing machine. it's very possible do it like that I'm like there's all these different points of view and a lot

1:01:58 You trust him to do something funny and you give him money. really what someone needs to understand. motherfucker over after cooking it for 30 seconds ladies love me i got my oj everybody said to do Do that That's like micro-machining. Warm ups. Do you ever do like scales and ha-ha-ha? Juicy. I'll get my pants off. where Bennett is coming from, It's because they said, all right, well, we're just going to let this guy do it.

1:05:52 Well, this podcast would have never been like this if we had a producer or a network I mean you get like very bizarre fucked up comment. No quite honestly if something's good they like it I together like for me there's like a whole process from the beginning of uh coming up with a bit and and she's out there with an AK-47 pointing it at her. But it didn't start out like that.

1:08:25 I like that guy, dude, from Sopranos, Stop. That's the beautiful thing about the internet. Boom, you made it. shitty TV shows. We've done it in the past. Oh, you haven't seen this? then I have one where I use my phone, which is a program called Everyday Looper. And you're So it's easy to find me. See, I'm a bald badass like Dana White. You did another one where you looped where you were making noises like with your mouth.

1:11:13 And I probably made this guy fucking half a million dollars. And you did it with your phone. not going to get on mtv if you want to stand out, you have to use new forms of making songs, use technology, hair products, whatever it is. Yeah, this is it. And you can stack them over top of each other too in this program. sometimes and I mean sometimes I might even text message while I drive but I've never thanked God

1:14:12 because america is a fag enabling country so sandy hook happened and all the the children were were And I actually, one of the greatest accomplishments of that song is I met, and I'm now friends and everything they stand for. And that she just kind of grew up and realized she was indoctrinated as a child. And I miss my family a lot. But just the idea that you could grow up in an environment like that and be indoctrinated into that thinking is very real.

1:17:18 I don't remember what her name is. of the reasons because I feel like it fuels some of the stuff thatant people. And that's why you stay? It's maybe one of the reasons You're like, look, there's some good things about it. Everywhere. being? What made them think that this is something to aspire to? If you grew up around a bunch of Or they were so isolated and all they heard was the ideals that were shoved down their throats constantly.

1:19:41 And up until that point, I was blindly faithful. And because we have no ability to explain what has happened up until this point. We have, in Kansas City, Huge churches, huge places for Jesus. I didn't want to have anything to do with catholicism Well, I went to a Catholic school. Our Lady of Czestochowa was the name of the place. And it was She was so nasty

1:22:23 a very very good way of looking at it. It's not necessarily real. when you're on psychedelics, the experience is exactly But the point is that even if it really is just your imagination, And I don't think it's like a figment of your imagination. the realization that no one knows, no one knows, and no one will know it unless we have a much, that those experiences also happen when you're about to die we know that those experiences happen

1:25:28 If you shoot yourself in the head, is that like you don't get a chance to go to the next level? mushrooms and within like 10 minutes, it was on an empty stomach. I was having And when it's done, it's like getting off of a roller coaster. that you have from when you were a child, even everything that you have, the deepest, darkest Opiates and other addictive substances with it. Yeah, it's really kind of stupid. It's not just kind of stupid

1:29:22 And the number one issue that you're going to have is you're not going to be able to lie to those people as easily anymore. I really do put a lot of effort into that, That's probably why you like psychedelics, where you eat one and you're like, you know, an hour goes by and you're just kind of like, It's a real psychoactive substance. it so that's why like i've given brownies to people before and they go dude this was fucking

1:31:16 they asked if I could acquire some marijuana for them. And I was like, what did you do? At home. like i've heard coffee that coffee is one of the best at uh killing pot brownie uh buzz i heard DMT which becomes orally active because of this thing called haramine, i'll just take those with it. I mean, it, you know. there's this and she's like hello are you there like what's going on over

1:34:40 Like recreationally or a little bit of both? I'm sure he's got some sort of a prescription, but he likes to booze with it too. Yeah, and they're, like like one of the most prescribed drugs They were trying to squash everything. Yeah, let's pull it up. and it might as well be a billion. It changed human beings. but Eminem used to be on a lot of like drugs and mushrooms and made like some amazing shit and then he

1:38:01 they take less chances and you know something that you really have to fight off. Was this like two nights ago? they announced once that Ronda Rousey and Misha Tate were going to be the coaches. a facial expression is you know you make the best facial expressions i told somebody online that if That's the problem with doing that show. then you're talking to the same type of people,

1:40:28 you think you're above it. when he was explaining infinity, in this con right now i'm touching right here i'm touching my fingernails together for no reason Because I've heard that podcast. And they might be exactly the same it might just be a fractal thing where So the bigger the galaxy, And so the most recent theory, on man everybody knows that the earth is only 7 000 years old of course that's that's what you're you're growing up around right a hundred percent and i'm talking like

1:43:50 that were living like just, you know, just a few, you know, a few thousand years ago, 14, Yeah. All those, if you separated them all and got them all, here it is, Venezuela's Jurassic Park. It's like there's gay people, there's straight people, whatever billion years old you're wrong about that it's been around forever and we've been here for They think that, you know,

1:46:20 and Cain and Abel Did you? You want to start nerfing the world, Many of the 12,000 recorded specimens from the different areas Yeah, a ton is 2,000 pounds. 12,000 pound animal? Really, really, really, really amazing. So like a king fucking African elephant is six tons. was that at one point in time the the earth had a different Is that a new one? especially in an area where something is eating everything.

1:50:42 I mean, nature is so good at like figuring out how to get rid Wow. One vertebrae is four feet thick. for hundreds of millions of years too just got here we're staring at dinosaur pictures. shows seven days of animals into consideration the fact that the bodies could move differently then because the oxygen level was different. Oh my God. And the one where the hyena starts like barking and...

1:54:12 The giant one who kills hyenas. them and snaps their backs and shit. Have you ever seen the video of the, uh, the, this is one of my That's all I have to say. and grabbed a hold of her calf and clamped down on her. We only have what got trapped in mud. It's like you really have to wonder how many of these have not been found different branch as 14,000 years ago,

1:57:43 Jesus Christ. Turned out to be a hoax. I love that. Fuka and Amazon hoax? been known about since 1910. And that still means that there's certain things You know, I mean, It was three feet tall, and they lived off the island of Flores in Indonesia. And up until then, they thought this Orang Pendek was just bullshit but the orang pendek now they think might be this homo floriensis that's

2:00:50 Consensus among witnesses is that the animal is a ground-dwelling bipedal primate that is covered in short fur and stands between 30 and 60 inches tall. 2005. and you have this idea of what it is. Yeah, nobody. complete like nomadic tribal people bows and arrows wandering around persistent hunting But there's a feeling I get sometimes when I get really high and I start contemplating things,

2:03:26 account the life that we do live, that you can just shut off your phone, that you can just get Well, I think you and I may be a little more in tune to it because we spent so much time so much time using the Internet now see how sick of a place it is. And it's, it's made us hyper connected to everything that's that what we're seeing, communication that's never been possible before. Massive communities of online people who are,

2:06:40 any hair on it i used to i shaved it i have a scar in the back of my head for where i had a So where they take and then they- It doesn't work very well. Now I'm left with these, No, no, no, they don't die. That's why when dudes go bald, they still have that weird thing at the back of their head. The rest of the hair wants to fall out. If it's going, it's going.

2:08:23 That there is to remind you, don't do what I did. I have no idea. Oh, yeah. Sorry, sorry, sorry. and pretending he's a girl, or being a female now, I understand that. It's overly progressive. Yeah, because his, it's body is, fuck Lived as a man for 30 years. It's bullshit. It's total bullshit. Yeah, because his, that everyone's like become a woman,

2:10:42 years, comparing the skills that they learned as a talking about this, I became transphobic to a lot of these super ultra progressive people. as a woman. They work for a big big company and it's a gigantic corporation they they're, So you're, It's, And he's being charged by this other guy who's this radical male feminist. What they're implying by all the other corroborating stories

2:13:57 for the fact that she got drunk bananas yeah if it's two drinks what okay if it's six shots and a beer and you're Yeah. It's a good point. with the blanket statement, idea what was going on with her, but within like a matter of 15 minutes completely fucking inebriated unable to uh speak had to carry the dialogue which i think is brilliant and it's a legit dialogue and it's an important subject

2:17:14 that they're rapists because they disagreed this very real issue. But another guy had an incredible point. How could it possibly be that If you're a woman, did I? No. outside in this car. So 15, 16 of these dudes went outside and surrounded this car and about a single finger on any of these kids and i got in trouble because I had a cell phone in my pocket and I didn't call the cops and they called it aiding and abetting.

2:20:04 had one glass of wine. Yeah, it might you might have some responsibility if you actually gave them the alcohol Like, there's some madness there. Anybody who thinks that this Michael Shermer guy is being There's a lot. the, Everyone is like super ultra supportive. No, no, this was actually the case. inarguable. And that's bullshit. But that's 99% of blogging. Yeah, but it shouldn't be that way

2:25:21 And I saw that and I said, that's crazy thinking because it's never necessary to unnecessarily shame somebody. That's not, you don't, you don't like throw out, that's like witch trial shit. You know, you don't throw out accusations of witchcraft unnecessarily so that you find the necessary witches and abolish them from your community. Like, that's no, never. It's never okay to unnecessarily accuse someone

2:26:15 An absolute responsibility to be objective about this idea. stimulating. It's stimulating. It's fascinating. And it's all like bubbling up around us and And it's all about if they Yeah, man. the history of our culture. I think it's our crowning achievement as far as, I mean, honestly. All those YouTube people with their crazy edits, they're a part of it, too.

2:28:58 He's essentially throwing millions of dollars all over the place to try to that's interesting there's a lot of people that are trying to capitalize off of youtube right now I think so. Fiber and everybody in the county has it. And essentially what they're doing is for $150 a And that's what everybody's doing right now On your phone. too weird, maybe a little too different to ever have a song on the radio. I don't have the sex

2:32:20 I realized people are getting online to listen to and find out about new music. Fine. And it was only a matter of time before the internet got more exposure, And that's what's so exciting about Google Fiber is it's making it even better. like a real commercial like i don't really read it i just sort of say i say their points but i say it the way i want to do it and i only do in the beginning

2:35:09 And that's what's so fucking cool about it. I never have. dude, this dude is dope, and he's into, like, some cerebral shit. to speak your mind because you're not worried about the repercussions. People fucking, whatever They can't hide. You can't hide flawless that you you couldn't see their flaws and and people gravitated towards that and now I love about all this shit is that we're going above and beyond what people treat as, uh, people,

2:38:59 And we always thought like, or just really had no self-esteem. Yeah, no, I think that that's maybe one of the things is as a rap artist, I know. it's sort of exposing things in a way that it never been possible. I'm Charlie Sheen. Fuck anybody with cancer. And you will see that I have three extra hearts Are pure great I'm like it might be time On his show

2:42:00 okay, yeah, that's great. So we book all this travel and get ready to do this and then they wigger crip that's illiterate That's his girlfriend. Keep going. your cousin Bennett, Do you get him fucked up his mother. I worked it out and he was willing here, Yeah, it's a fucking novel. How gross is that statement? God damn it. I'm sorry. Yeah, but I have left hand on changing cameras.

2:45:07 The big picture? I didn't mean it like that. But Terry Hatcher was so hot in that movie. I'm like, whoa. The book is basically, it's about my cousin and his illiterate text messages, You should have approval of all that shit, dude. Not enough characters. That's what fucked it up. that it was a real guy. it's a character That's hilarious. Text from Bennett.

2:48:22 Fingers crossed. awesome. Just give him a day's jujitsu class and you watch? Get yourself some Shroom Tech Sports, son. And your videos are awesome. MacLethal on Twitter and text Thank you, man. Thanks to Onnit.com. And much love. Oh, beautiful. Tonight? God damn it. Yeah. No, that's the bookstore. It's on 8818 Sunset Boulevard, West Hollywood, California.

2:52:13 So if you went to that show, my apologies. It's all on my Twitter, which is Joe Rogan.