Joe Rogan Experience #407 — Eddie Bravo Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Good googly moogly. We didn't know what the fuck that meant. Good Googly Moogly. The origin of Good googly moogly. Not going anywhere for a while? and you want to say, damn! The term is now used as an utterance of great surprise. Yeah, and it's not offensive. my God. Like he would line was, my God. What is it about Brazilzil that's there's

3:37 so in 2000 we went to check it all out and just all together they don't trust dudes at all Argentina that's the one argument I mean against prostitution is that it forces it allows rather He said that it's very typical that you go out on a date with a chick. I'm going to the bathroom and just go basically. What does that do to a serving people food for fucking $3

6:27 on you for an hour and a half. That's possible. I agree. Isn't that crazy? That motherfucker is checking anybody. guy has it nailed and all these other yeah he makes a lot of sense though makes a lot of sense that's what's even It's like, so for him to debate a guy like that, it's not fair. To be able to get guests like that, to be able to get, you know, use a publicist to reach out and let someone know there's a legitimate show.

9:42 My problem with, I don't buy, I think the truth is them to get funding if you're dealing with an AIDS epidemic you get money you diseases there's ailments that they just live with there's parasites that get in their system That must be a problem in the jungle. You have dick leeches. You have to piss into your hand. you no but if you weren't pissing and you're in the lagoon isn't it easier but

12:31 because I was scared like something actually There's a rat actually a fish that does that like a parasite Oh And then you'd have to tape that. Jesus Christ. the first documented case of the removal of the candiru from a human urethra That could definitely get into vaginas. who never actually observed it, but rather was told about it by the natives of the area,

14:50 Dude. dude, look at this, man. Maybe they're just comfortable with him Punch an Amazon girl vaginal parasite. Go to this. This is fucking crazy. Oh, my God. This is a real thing. in the Amazon River tributary. Dr. Anwar Samad But it's not. go in there They'd just have a fish Put a little baby cat there Hootsie. Yeah Singing a song for him And so you know how they have a bunch of different guys who are trainers or or?

19:01 He's serious about it. So it was pretty cool. Yeah. Why not? Did he compete? Those tough, tough dudes this year. They're beautiful. The tournament, Jesus Christ, it was so much. His last name was Dop, Jared Dop. Her ex-husband is an MMA fighter named Cyborg. Cobrina, the guy who won it all in the lightweight, he finally beat Jafa Mendes, man. Jafa Mendes won

22:15 Yeah. One year it's in Sao Paulo. So he's down to evolve. Abu Dhabi is Abu Dhabi Combat Championships, right? Abu Dhabi Combat Club. Taknoon. with one of your fighters so how did he do against this dude well well let me finish what i was it's massive. and if you weigh even a pound over, boom, you're gone. and they try to cut too much weight and you don't have that much time to recover so if you're going

25:13 most of the time, because no matter how you the finals are 20 minute matches but in these 10 minute when strategizing for a fight you don't want to take any chances the party rolling. He's like, okay, I'm going to sit down. You get on top. Let's go. I'm not going It's not a wrestling competition. So a lot of weird stuff that I didn't understand. like Cobrina and Hafa,

28:05 One of the competitors came in. It could be, but it's spelled, I think, M-I-Y-A-O. They don't stop. So that's why he lost. I'm not the only one. finals and they never would they they never true they just try to take each They don't want to pull guard. I take down ability, man. That takes a long, long, long time. Sprawling can come easier. because what you end up having, if you don't lose a point for pulling guard, it's, you know,

31:35 and you can use your weight because it's like you have the ball. But generally, you want to be on top. zone and if you get the dudes back first and go on the 10 that's basically it's the same thing And then if it's heads, whoever wins the coin toss gets to decide who receives and who kicks off. You have to choose. I'm saying is so for letting the guy get on top.

33:49 You're going to lose the advantage and points? It's still a point. It should be submission only. these matches where the submission wasn't even a thought Just submission only? I'm not sure on the points, but he was down. It was 30 seconds. Put him in a triangle. and as a referee, you should see if it's a near sub. on and then it turns into just a bunch of

37:23 five something. It should be definitely a lot more than one. Yeah, a pass. So. So I think it should be five something. Yeah, lines. That's like a goal. Yeah, you might. That's like a touchdown. You got out of it, but god damn that guy Sub League up in the Pacific Northwest Let's make cinch Darces, cinch triangles, seven points. That's for damn sure.

39:14 Kron Gracie versus Gary Tonin. Well, you know what I'm going to talk about? Straighten his arm out. He didn't tap. Puts an anaconda on him, a.k.a. triangle body lock on him. went right through him like in 30 seconds. you went right through him the best possible where's this kid come out of i think he's from the east coast i'm not sure but he was on uh that bjj

41:38 Gary Tonin's back defense or back control is professional. Hickson looks at him and goes, Gary taps. I would love to have him on. I don't know. That was right after I had dinner with Hickson once. And I went to his house. He, uh, he came out. Damn, that was like 07 or 06. Yeah. He was a young kid. He was really young. He was on top. Everyone feared him.

43:24 He's got that samurai mindset. There's the Helio side. fuck that Gracie they all say it they all agree that although there's no roles on video like now everyone Yeah, he's a master. And I remember when he was 12, outside of a jiu-jitsu tournament, some IBJJF tournament in Domingo State Hills here in California, I tell you, that is the one. Jean-Jacques he's like watch him break he's gonna break and damn he was right there was a couple that

46:50 of the Gi champions were having a little trouble submitting dudes without the Gi and the wrestlers, coming of Jean-Jacques. First that was Jean-Jacques, maybe Hodger did it too. and how he can come back. Gary was trying to get him from the Yeah, yeah. Where's this kid who is considered the best new heavyweight dude, against Boucher, who just won heavyweight.

49:22 And the guy I was talking about earlier, Jared Dopp, the guy who beat Amir. And the guy took him down once and passed his guard. Jared Dopp. Vinny was not in shape for this. that homeboy threw. They thought it was going to be He's a purple belt. He would have beat Amir Alam, the top 10 planet heavyweight. Boucher won, and in the absolute, Cyborg took it all.

51:48 I forget how it went down. points and barely pulled it off. in the absolutes. You know what I mean? And you know what? And he must be, how young is this kid? Dude. It's basically a Greco-Roman full guard game. shuck that arm that's caught in between your arms. The actual position, It didn't really work on him. I love that. And I've had invest. value and everything is designed to score. It's a submission only format. There's a few different

55:56 Obviously, you don't really mean a billion dollars. There's nobody there the only people in the stands are the actual competitors and their girlfriends and maybe their moms it that Kron Gracie-Gary jiu-jitsu is mainstream. any kind of reality show, He wrestled his whole life. I was doing that. a 16 man tournament, 8 man tournament. they're just not used to it yeah it could be done someone just like someone like the sheik

58:59 They're playing tug-of-war with the pants Yeah, he has an incredible rear naked choke Kron and Otavio. motherfucker he get push he beat Leo Vieira I mean he's he's legit one of the and Kron's looking over at the ref going, He keeps going backwards. Can you imagine Hickson doing that? Like if my son murdered somebody, I'm going to shelter him. Easy.

1:02:23 It's just amazing when you you hear about beautiful man absolutely man well his wife was. Hickson's wife was beautiful. that documentary, it's really unfortunate Because it follows this guy who's just legit. of my jiu-jitsu career, man, It was very strange, dude. But now he's under Hickson. I always want to remind them that there's a big misconception

1:06:06 gi, which is mostly guys wear rash guards or shorts, and they're training basically techniques And some people like short boards. to be kind of close to the sport and getting really good at that And now they don't have their handles and dudes are trying to punch them, and there's elbows and all better if everyone let down by never seeing submissions off the back happen all the time.

1:09:01 You're clenching now because you don't want to get knocked out. I have no problems with the gi. No, no. There's just a bunch of haters I mean, in my first book that came out in 2005, it opens up with a paragraph or two on each Gracie and thanking them for creating me and creating the sport and the UFC. Was that the craziest UFC ever? The Diego Sanchez-Gilbert Melendez fight was the craziest fucking thing I've ever seen in my life.

1:11:03 after all that damage he was taking. Diego Sanchez is a special dude. going to give... He'll give anybody term a lot, freak athlete, but I mean, almost like he had no worry whatsoever about Nate Marquardt's techniques. It made him kind of like hop and land on his butt. It was pretty crazy. I mean, a couple of times with right hands, This is a scary dude at 170 pounds.

1:13:54 He's telling me some Hector Lombard stories. He wouldn't let him up. Yeah. I mean, he's probably about 5'9. He's probably a little taller than me, you think? I don't know. My height or 5'7 and 5'7 wide. He's so big. I mean, he's probably about 5'9. Yeah, I think it's an illusion. And just ultimate confidence in his ability to knock guys out. Nate fought Anderson Silva,

1:15:47 You know, think of all the guys he's knocked out. Yeah. i think one of those fights that easily could be a draw. His passing is incredible. And even though he didn't quite make it, it was very impressive that he had the confidence to keep pushing and keep trying to pass. fitch he john fitch john fitchitch, and then beat Rick Story like that, How fucking crazy

1:18:16 Robbie Lawler knocked out Amigov with a flying knee. He did well He doesn't just wing punches at guys, but he does still wing punches at guys. that tri-star camp. Yeah. He's saying it. He's saying, I'm going to 205. Those dudes, they break their hand and that's why he lost his bid at the Olympics, That's from cutting weight. Just hearing a story of excruciating pain in the hospital.

1:21:28 Yeah Yeah And you should be fine Every day Probably tastes like shit It tastes sour But it's like a shot I want to be a great fighter. Just drink pure cranberry juice. Not the cocktail. Do you make it? It never does. and you're not going to down, like, half the bottle. She used to have to drink cranberry juice to get rid of it. Like, if you eat some bad food and get some sort of stomach food poisoning shit like that,

1:23:23 How about that Tony Ferguson Mars? He cinched it in and went to his back that he didn't need to be on top, and he liked rolling guys, and that's the move you got to watch when you're wrong with Tony. yeah so that's that tells you a lot like wow you don't ever see anybody going to the mars you see Kendall Grove used to catch him in all sorts of weird spots because he could just he had like an extra foot

1:26:30 battle in the UFC. I always make sure I try to explain what a guy's trying to do, where it becomes Yeah, yeah. Just go and just watch a couple times. And you don't have to roll and do, you know, people are scared of rolling and, oh, what And if you're in a good school like 10th Planet a jiu-jitsu class and checking it out and taking one class than i thought they're way more scared

1:28:58 which I consider you're my So you've got to really think about just walking them through it nice and slowly, Just go in there and tap. And if you can't tap a guy but he can tap you, guess what? people are afraid to come in. your wife protecting your children, It's great for your mind. After we leave jiu-jitsu class tell me when we more like loose this podcast many times but i think it needs repeating. Absolutely. I can't tell you how many

1:31:53 and leave your ego at the door confidence and that's women including women you know like think about women that you know that Seymour Butts is a nice guy. I don't remember what it was. I set that up on purpose. He didn't get hurt. You just lost a game of death. Got him in an armbar and the way she did it was so fluid and beautiful and you watch the episode it doesn't I

1:34:57 down significantly it's very hard to rape a jujitsu girl and it doesn't take that long to I didn't tap her. She weighs 135 in a better position to defend, a better position to It's a wild thing to see the guy's face. Very well. But it was fascinating to watch I think he showed up to maybe Something happened He couldn't take it. And you can't wait to get back so much that you're like, a lot of times you come back too early and you're not really healed right.

1:37:48 It's very easy to eliminate ringworm. And it's a great company owned by a great guy. I thought it was a soap I don't go to a hotel room unless I have that show with me. Damn, you crazy. People used to die of infections all the time. Well, see, they shouldn't even really have kombucha because kombucha is a fungus, why it's big and white and gigantic it's it shows up like it shows itself very

1:40:48 muscaria mushroom- Well, I'm about to explain. I'm about to explain to people. The Amanita muscaria mushroom It could be seasonally variable. He made like a tea with the amanita muscaria. So we took that, and then an hour or so in, we decided to jump it with psilocybin. I don't believe so. But they say it's actually better for you than coffee if you just chew the leaves

1:43:48 I thought it was like a pure lab created thing. But it was fascinating. like right from the tree. It's a really interesting one because it's uh, it's thought of as like a party drug and it certainly is but The comedown is terrible. It used to be Roll On Aubrey likes to party It's better. SSRIs or antidepressants, they tell them not to take 5-HTP. Because Neil Brennan, you know Neil Brennan,

1:46:19 Oh, it's definitely for real. Yeah Oh! They haven't had a hit single Was murdered last night is this gunman because the guy He's one of the nicest guys. We talked about KD yesterday Did you hear about that shit? goddamn books in my life over the last six months my kid that's his favorite shit is to have he goes Yeah, they've been called toadstools forever.

1:49:08 What they have is 5-MeO-DMT in them. certain types of frog skin okay and you have to rub it on glass. It's that whole thing of licking a frog is just one of those urban myths. and then you lick a frog's ass If I remember correctly, Yeah, but you've got to Google shit like that if you don't know. Bufotenin? No. The toad's venom is concentrated on the surface

1:51:43 The toxic ingredient in the toad's venom is called bufotinine, while you smoke it. That's why it's dangerous to lick it. 5-AMEO-DMT is NNDMT is the one that gives you the crazy visuals. This is what I had bought, a Colorado River Toad. Don't lick poisonous dart frogs. frogs have is dimethyltryptamine with Then 5-MeO dimethyltryptamine, which is what these frogs have, is

1:53:59 That guy's name is Toad, and he has a mushroom head. I don't know, man. You're talking about mushrooms. There's a new show called Wonderland or something, They have a symbiotic relationship with carniferous trees, that are always underneath Christmas trees. That's why socks are white and red. Caribou live in Siberia. Well, there's another type of frog.

1:57:14 and then they put the frog, so it opens up the pores, Yeah. You know, what is this bush? Bush burning, DMT, light DMT on fire, get high. Yeah, you must have gotten fucked up. it would be fragmented and all fucked up. There no way as soon as I close my eyes there's a show waiting for me and it's there's in It doesn't, whether, It's still this insane, crazy thing that you're looking at.

2:00:15 It's not broken up. To me, in my opinion, are you looking at the mountains? Look at the mountains. know he actually meant that. and I took the Amanita Mascara and then the psilocybin Yeah It was so hard. But I understood it because the drive home, I should have been dead. out and it's kind of like you're in a dream state. It's five-dimensional, and it's perfect.

2:03:38 I know this place you know it's well I don't know what mushrooms also all those They don't really know. When you're done with a dream, it's hard to remember it. I'm like, I'm not going to forget this. Or when it's over, rather. And you accept it. How is it possible that this is empty when you look at it at the subatomic level? Some of it. And according to science, we're just flooded with electromagnetic energy and it's just running through everything. So it seems like that's how we might be plugged in and that's what's giving us the power because it's not our muscles that are doing anything.

2:06:55 But the way it's the photons or whatever, I'm just making shit up, are put together. It's like you don't see anything there, but electromagnetic energy, like, how is this empty space? The point is... Millions of times per second Yeah, and particles from you know here could they could be on the other side of the planet and they react instantaneously

2:08:32 They don't understand it. I think we have this idea that the reality that we exist in, the measurable reality we exist in is all there is. That's like, that's momentum. every turn it's fucking them up their car is breaking down they're getting arrested their another flea how can we can't make a tree yeah we can't make a tree yeah we it seems pretty awesome to me that it seems that we're here we're existing

2:11:34 built in. And it seems like if you look at like all the animals on this planet, at least Isn't life and success what they're looking for? your disbelief and you're You want to protect your children. know that are interesting, they all had kind of a fucked up life. does for children, absolutely. And it's, it's has a lot to do with you, what you always talk about. And when

2:14:18 So when a kid comes into jujitsu and he's four years old, five years old, you better respect that 15-year-old. and that definitely works too to all these seminars. but I think that if you're having trouble with your kids or you want to ensure a That's just a little something that's difficult, It's not hard. asshole that's 180 pounds. It's fucking with him

2:17:44 They're trying to prove that they aren't scared themselves. The reason why people are But from like 14 on not really because I was like thinking about like all I started doing martial arts, but from, like, 14 on, not really. I'm talking about middle school, elementary and middle school. Yeah. Cause I lived in Worthington, Back then, divorce wasn't as crazy as it is now.

2:19:48 All of them except one. Yeah, man. What kind of crazy hell does that guy live in At 14, he tries to shove advice down my throat, So he was trying to give me the right advice. he has all his family and all his grandkids. And I asked him, I go, what made you want to come by this time? And the whole drive down, I'm like, I'm not going to give him a hard time.

2:22:18 My mom went, we're all sitting there. I'm like, fuck, we get a second chance. Meanwhile, and he was seeing my mom on the side. And I'm like, fuck this dude. But during that dinner, he did say, say one two of his kids live in LA He wanted to marry my mom. got pregnant. We just had our kid. I'll be gone for the weekend. I'm gonna spend time with my son.

2:24:54 It's a weird thing, isn't it? The idea and then see you and not even have He was never a dick to me. So he had something really wrong with them. if you look at nature, intensity of attraction for a man goes away with a good within the first five or six months because And so in order to conform to what society expects from a person, It was a pill that you could take where you could have sex with a girl and not get post-nut syndrome if you take it 30 minutes before sex.

2:27:46 I got to get out of here. What are you saying? It's different. You know those girls that Girls don't really get post-nut syndrome Really? what the fuck to say like how often you fuck your wife be serious and some guys will tell you like You can't talk about it? So, And then when you have a kid now, I'm 23, and it's like, man, this is bullshit. and I've had most girls were,

2:31:15 I would rather want it all the time and rarely get it Chael Sonnen and Vanderlei Silva and Chael has been putting these rhymes up on his Twitter account. They might have a lot of extracurricular violence. You know, if you asked him honestly off the record, That's going to be crazy. Like fights? Yeah. There have been fights that even want to air it. Really? Have you heard about that? Like fights?

2:32:51 I believe it. they have girls and guys Sweat. Jasmine Duke and what was the girl she fought? Come to Vegas. Yeah. Is that Barnett also? Fuck yeah, it is. Do you remember us going over it in your garage and putting it on mastering the system? Anderson's fight card Anderson Silva Weidman 2 oh my god this is an amazing card. Ronda Rousey, Misha Tate, Travis Brown,

2:35:40 Oh, Uriah Hall. I thought How do you say it? Jim Miller versus Fabricio Camões. I don't know who did it. What's the blood treatment? So stem cell thing that guys do for their discs. It's supposed to So I wasn't down with any surgeries, man. before I go back. it was all arm triangles. Man, I hope that works out for you. Right. Sometimes, you know, I don't have time,

2:39:11 R-E-G-E-N-O-K-I-N-E. placed in a centrifuge until its constituent parts are separated. The middle yellowish layer is dense with agents that are believed to stop year of his life yeah it's from this shit I had a six millimeter bulge in my neck. It's pretty big. You know, it's reduced now quite a bit, Windmills kettlebell windmills are huge. I love those is that that is a strengthening your entire core

2:42:00 And Dave Bishop. He's like the candy man. Yeah, absolutely. Over 150 different titles to choose from. I'm going to be at My podcast is Eddie Bravo Radio. It's not a bother. And I know how much time and effort you put into them. Boulder? I'll never forget that. A lot of jiu-jitsu down there. It's EddieBravo on Twitter or 10thplanetjj.com twisterbravo at sbcglobal.net.

2:44:45 Let's do something. Let's make it happen, bitch. Don't sweat it. Alright? Keep it together, you at the Mirage 27th or 28th? Joey motherfucking Coco Diaz. Thank you.