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Joe Rogan Experience #409 — Patrick Magee Transcript

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0:00 I have a show Thursday. For the longest time, Brian and I and everybody really said, God damn it, why doesn't the Madhouse. It's small. breeders that's got to go walking around begging for candy. Very funny guy, though. Yeah, and a lot of fun, guys. We're going to talk about how to scare the fuck out of you. the werewolf that's in the front that greets people when they open the door?

2:17 was so pumped up and the thing is amazing I put a million pictures of it up on Instagram but every For me, absolutely. to do for a living. I wanted to be a comic book artist. And then somewhere along the line, I saw It's so crude in comparison to today, the way the thing affected by that stuff. scenes with the actual wolfman itself are fucking wicked you know it's an interesting kind of

5:11 When they gain mass. Yeah. That shit drives me crazy. where the university studies, and then he tells them Those old ones. a lot of it in real time though a lot of that's now computer graphics here yeah i'll have to find Isn't it funny how you can see when things are fake? The physics are off on the, you know, the movement. I've seen gorillas walk.

7:51 and it could be a guy that or an ape that's more man like you know and could be so it's possible That'd actually be kind of a cool scene for a movie. and pretend you're No, never. from the artistic standpoint, or he picks it up at the beginning. enhanced. And then you look at that you can't see the fucking trees. There's a lot of Bigfoot dick out there.

10:24 Yeah, look at this. he was arguing to death with me about this he was like the average gate of a human being and so it They all believe it. we started talking shit and we played the footage and we were so baked i was looking at the video How do you get to be a monster? Willow Creek? Willow Creek. Bobcat Goldthwait is bananas about Bigfoot. I respect you so much.

12:56 Just for the record. He's a fucking special effects expert and these knuckle I did. before the internet came along, And if you see something on TV that's showing you, were saying that the new york times actually stifles information stifles the release of media. The way they seem like his version of journalism was so much more important than theirs. He's

16:01 So things like Huffington Post and Salon, they blow up and then everybody's scrambling which is why people get away house or wherever the fuck If Miley Cyrus They would have a ceasefire and they would all go Yeah. Well, that's what they say. posted something the other day and kind of going with that with the news did you you do you think safe way you know cuz there's no fucking Bigfoot most likely so you was out there. It was like the childhood mystery regained, but in a safe way.

19:01 and we hope everybody survives because if they don't survive, the code that's the code how the fuck did the werewolf theme where did uh where did that thing It would have been really good. That was like, who let you do this? how to make a movie. John Landis is not known you need a lot of prep time I mean, there really isn't I think the hardest is to try to replicate the human form or animals to where as humans we all know what that looks like.

22:06 I couldn't get into it. I knew there wasn't really a tiger in front of that guy I couldn't get into it They want to let you know. only show so much and now i think with cg it's let's just show it all let's just make it jump It's just, ah, and snapping. miniature stuff but the second one i personally think was although a great movie it wasn't as if they just shot it,

24:58 That would be the end of it. that they didn't. Or, I mean, who the fuck am I to say it? But they had guns and, you know, parades. I know, but it just seems to me that they didn't. I mean, they made a comic book off all that that the scene where that woman goes down the stairs was it a woman or a guy who goes down the It was so good. in my opinion, it's the focus of a calm person

26:47 You're not fooling me at all. I am NOT there. I'm not involved in this experience And it's real reactions with real motivation. Really? Did they fuck it up? shooting a movie without having a script and not even know where it's going with The backgrounds. It felt like the Patterson footage. She didn't buy into it? You've got to get a standard resolution.

29:36 Oh, absolutely. I think there's the option to want to show more and not have that restraint. What am I, 12? where it's like this huge full-scale thing it's smashing through buildings like it seems like You know what drives me fucking crazy? It's almost like they're trying to make it less realistic on purpose. You're not looking at like, But when those stupid fake lions

32:44 terrible acting, right? Anything. me yeah it's it's easy oh yeah it's like terrible acting right anything Some of the makeup and special effects, Isn't it funny that even the big crowd scenes, when they're stacking up on top of each other, Do they move wrong like what is it about I mean, I think for the newer Star Wars movies, they have these shots, these scenes with a thousand spaceships and so many things going on.

35:15 They had to be a bit more imaginative. I want to just flood my screen. and it was all fuzzy with the little line like a good pause, like good luck. hitting pause on one and record on the other one, two VCRs, that's hilarious. actor doing a certain amount of moving around they can make it and to the right technology and uh modern filmmaking is there's so many people involved now creatively and these

38:44 they're all giving in Did you ever read those? That's a movie called Bad Moon. Yeah, it's in the mid-90s. the family pet saves the day all that stupid shit Look how stupid that thing is. But meanwhile, finger and it's like who's this girl she's a famous actress she's gonna transform she's gonna Oh, she's yoked now. She'd keep up with my girl. if you did it American Werewolf in London style,

41:52 it and not have to incorporate wasn't that good either though I've come across There'll be people that'll go say the same about American Werewolf The music, the contrast. these new werewolf It's amazing. You're fucking with me, man. Not good enough. The Hulk is a fucking superhero This fucking scene is so awesome. see more and you don't. I love the fly.

45:24 It was Gary Oldman I loved that movie The acting was okay. Old school guy from the comedy store. big fake mouth and starts chewing and blood so as long as i know it's real blood and a real it's and throw somebody in the back of your van Yeah. It doesn't make you feel weird. You lost me. A Hulk looks like a Hulk. They made a hundred sequels. Remember when they did a remake?

48:56 Didn't work, right? It's like King Kong is a perfect example. Yeah, where you just, again, believe it as a little bit more real. I don't know if you've seen the movie The Descent. Well, there was six or seven of them. for thousands of years. Oh, yeah, it was great. I don't want to give anything away. they should re-release the original and have people go out and see it in a movie theater,

51:25 and they have a fucking chainsaw King Kong live keeps swimming I mean got down because they're fucking huge But it's not like they're compelled to go climb buildings like an asshole. Hiding in the Redwood forest Plus we have jets No, there'd be a whole group of people trying to save them. It's probably the fifth one, right? No, Rick Baker did the 76 one with Dino De Laurentiis.

53:34 with Linda Hamilton, in the theater. he's trying to turn away and I go hey come on dude I watched Godzilla you can King Kong Lives I don't think I saw which was much more recent which was a CGI one with I definitely saw the one that came after this which was much more recent That was it. there was a King Kong. Look at that. Yeah, someone needs to – you couldn't do it today.

55:54 one foot on each one. Why'd they make King Kong bigger and nobody even batted an eye? Is it a trailer? That's actually pretty good. I remember this. Very important to him. Do you like that show? like, you get to see She was so fucking pretty. What? funny that's a tough job but do you like movies like the nutty professor where they do makeup It's a fun movie.

59:10 Someone who's mediocre. and then i realized oh they're fucking gross and awful so for if you watch a comedian with another They colored the old one. The fact that they're in black and white is part of the interesting thing of watching those movies. Don't color it. Yeah, well, this is my point about this. It's so funny to like it looks like bad show on Cartoon Network. Yes. Well, they could do a better job now

1:01:39 I mean, monsters, though. I mean, we had Nosferatu as one of the very first. I went to see Nosferatu. because this is kind of The first version of Dracula or Vampire. People were drinking gin and fucking out of control. Like, here he is. Hey, let me suck your thumb. Because they're just creepy extra long enough. And it's slow and look at how this thing

1:04:06 They made them longer. It's really kind of weird when you think about it. bit, and then you got every version's been done. Barely. I can't believe I'm going to. And I'm not telling anybody what they should and shouldn't like. But I find it fascinating. Why do you want a werewolf that growls at you but doesn't eat anybody? And how the fuck has he become that big?

1:06:37 Straight up, on a silver tray. where it's stop motion There's like two movies or three movies in that movie. fucking great it's a guy who picks up this girl They get drunk and they pick up this girl at a bar. Just, if that's all you had. video i don't want to tell you anymore but it's great it's really fun what's your thoughts on the It looked real.

1:09:42 And then you got to shoot for a 24-hour day and then take it all off. where he was in the bat costume. you know, meanwhile, Oh, that's right. And then, you know, Like, there's other Draculas where I didn't buy that they were actually going after it. And she's hot as fuck, you know, and, like, just everything about it. Like, how unusual is the hair?

1:12:17 Like what is that? Is Granada Hills close to us? Well, we learned when Alex Connell was here the difference between Yellowstone and Yosemite, which I always confused. fuck you up, especially if you stumble upon one with It was so bad. and you didn't see really anything. It was fun enough. because they made me watch that fucking movie. Which is fine, but there's some scenes involving people

1:15:07 we'll throw a little That was made by which is a great makeup effects movie as well. Fantastic. Pull that up did Pan's Labyrinth, which I think is brilliant. Pan's Labyrinth, which is a great makeup effects movie as well. Really great concepts. Labranth. But it's unoffensive because it's, again, things that aren't real, like fairies. And then I think his eyes were suit. That's his mouth.

1:16:42 Because you don't know if they're badly acting. But they did a, I don't know if it's a remake. I know it's the same French director called Hot Tension But they did a I don't know if it's a remake I would put that on your list But that was This is High Tension? Why is their lips moving and different words are coming out? the original point of no return yeah they basically renamed it to the girl

1:18:55 What's his name again? What was that dude's name? Bridget Fonda version of it? Oh, The professional. is the way racist people look at black people. Besson. and it's sort of a time travel movie. They got the right kind of pool cues for that era. Here's Lil' Finn Nikita. Yeah, what happened? ghosts? Ghost movies? I hate man he had worked on this in the 70s called the Sentinel and it's in New York

1:21:57 memorable one that really stands out. Blair Witch freaked me out That was another, showed too much. Yeah, I completely agree. People listen to you. And that happens so often But it's hilarious. And that little jump. and then the shot right before and then they cut right back a thing about the right. what makes a movie good. When I see everything in the trailer, I just want to jump out a window.

1:26:43 just try to sell tickets, make that stupid trailer. When someone like John Carpenter has 100 million Twitter followers, Kevin James movies. I'm an expert. You can't talk about that, right? No. Suspenseful. The only Bigfoot movie that I think of that has any value is the Harry and the Hendersons, Here I go again on my own. you know, and they say there's aliens,

1:29:32 that's really not what's happening nowadays with special with the special makeup field they came to you and said, okay, how should we shoot this? You definitely want to cover the standard bases. I mean, if you're going to branch too far left how much is involved? And so the expensive approach is, okay, well, we'll make a fake head and do all these thousands of dollars worth of mechanical things in it and make the eyes do this, that, and the other and bite.

1:32:28 So it's that magician's trick. the editing is as important a special effect as the makeup, the monsters, the music and sound. Which was John Landis and Rick Baker. All my gears started spinning in my head. you know, and it's hard to believe but hold on pull it before that pull the transformation scene what That's why I love you. Shut up! Why does it have whiskers?

1:35:16 Oh, see, I thought it was a werewolf. Yeah. They became kind of the stereotypical everything was running and blurry and craziness, nothing really standing out, but you know, it served its purpose. There wasn't, Yeah. They would just scratch you up. It's like I can It feels like someone it's a werewolf. It's just so memorable. And it was like 20 minutes.

1:38:24 You've got, like, the World War Z zombies who run at you real quick, 28 Days Later zombies, But I'm actually neutral. Yeah. Yeah, that was a big movie. I didn't see it. What is that? It's a real animal. cross-matched with this ancient And apparently this bear is so unusual looking it's like some it was a Yeti I did that a couple years ago. I got a design for my Bigfoot

1:41:37 The Yeti? Count me in. So does it fit in here? The girl that he brought is so creepy just sitting there staring. And everything kind of before that was very clean Yeah. And there's so many aspects of that book, Synchronicity. Oh, bitch, shut this off right now. This is terrible. know they did it with de niro they did a frankenstein with de niro wasn't too bad that was

1:44:59 Oh, he was fantastic in Cape Fear. I'm like, bitch, you're not Ted Bundy. Which isn't in the book at all. What did it look like in the actual movie itself? It seems like what it would look like. Yeah. They start yelling out Joey Diaz quotes in the audience to the point where, like, the people who made the movie was like, who is that guy? They had no idea.

1:47:27 They're going to box. Yeah. Because you have that in the back of your head. Back in the day, the old days of De Niro. He's like, hey, how much you got? I think because they were shooting out of sequence or he had something else he was doing and couldn't shave it. Holy shit. It had everything set up on paper Brutal. But there's like a million girly movies.

1:49:57 It's important. That's like asking a chick to watch a bass fishing program. Did you love it? The other guy's in it, too. Why would I watch that? Dead Alive. Huh. Whoa. You can plead. Fun, right? you're not going to believe how fucking... I loved it. I thought it was fun. Oh, my God. And then John Candy's in it. You can't say Hawaiian punch nipples anymore.

1:54:03 Hawaiian punch with an oil can opener. of Close Encounters yeah If you film it right and do all the setup, But now that we've seen, I mean, basically, And it's a guy being chased by a guy driving a semi. That's right. Again, in the context of the times. Almost took it too far. I see what it is. He was only 12 there, though, or something, driving a car.

1:58:06 What the hell are you thinking? obscure that people might not know about did you see Troll Hunter? Had Talia Shire in it. those are outstanding Leprechaun one of the top 5 It wasn't going to be me. That's from uh 1989 it is uh that was like I love those fucking stupid movies like that. That same guy did... I don't know if you guys had this in Los Angeles or wherever you're from,

2:00:59 Jaws 3D. One of my favorite movies here Is that he would show up no not so great, Silver Bullet like the book itself what about the psycho psycho film or the sequels i like the original one yeah Part of what's great about going to see Psycho the first time is nobody knew what the fuck was going on. When you take that away, when you redo a movie, That holds up.

2:03:22 70s. I think Meg, the one that you don't see anymore. I feel like it was in the 90s. Can't trust IMDb, those dirty bastards. Hellraiser? What's that? Oh, he did? Yeah, that's okay. What about Misery? What's the top 10 movies of all time for you? But I saw it. There's a little bit more. Rosemary's Baby. Well, it was a scary idea, too. No, that's top 25.

2:07:33 Here's one that people forget about, The Fly. Great cast for that character. And that's kind of creepy. Did you see the trailer for the new Godzilla film? How disappointed were you with Prometheus? it was human enough where I wasn't willing to buy it. These fuckheads. They're ruining it. There's got to be something good that's cooking right now that you're excited about is there anything there's nothing nothing and from what i know from all

2:10:16 that's really like oh they're doing that. and it's saying a lot 40s and 50s Wasn't there an even more recent remake? That's right. Piece of shit. God damn it. This was a little influential. Sexy Boy? I enjoyed it. Chud. This is it. Can you tell us? Oh, wow. that off yeah that's gonna be on the back burner until I finish that, And if they want, they can order different things.

2:14:06 that you're going to promote it was a lot of fun you freaks super special sneaky offer. And that's it. Bye.