Joe Rogan Experience #414 — Cmdr. Chris Hadfield Transcript

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0:00 His name is Chris Hatfield. The book is An Astronaut's Guide to Life on Earth. all the details, but to try and link in life on earth with, uh, with seeing that spotlight go So your whole cardiovascular system changes. And most of them you feel, I mean, you lose the calluses on the bottom of your feet. It's kind of disgusting because your feet are like a snake up there, but the bottom of your feet are shedding because you never use the bottom of your feet. And you build up calluses on the top because you're

2:12 blood out of my feet and pump it properly back up to my head. And your body, we don't even know why. We don't know what sensors in the body The rest of my body was fine. We do one hour of cardiovascular and one hour of resistive every single day, seven days a week for so that every time you bend your elbow or twist your body or something, This is one of the problems we need to solve.

5:25 even to go to the moon, as far as habitation goes. Then I think we'll go to the moon, because it's the next, it's only three days away. And then we can do Psychological. How do you keep people sane? and that, those people will become Martians in their mind. I heard those words come out of her mouth. And it was like, she has in her mind completely because as you say, once you get the engines going fast enough that you're headed for Mars, you can't just turn around.

8:12 And what about, like, sustainable resources, like as far as, like, food and things like that? I mean, the topsoil is full of water on Mars. You can't just, you can't have a solar-powered bulldozer. To me, watching the footage of the rover and the images that it sent back was almost surreal. It's not thick enough to use a parachute in, but it's not thin enough that you can ignore it and just slow down and land with a rocket.

10:35 So you need a complex landing system. I mean, they did an amazing, amazing thing. of what we can just barely do. It's such a brave thing to do and such a capable probe, a capable Oh, yeah. There's a rock near my house of square not perfectly square but if you looked at a blurry picture of it that was taken from form of life, and in fact, definitely did.

13:12 a fossil record of it maybe there's even something still primitive stuff living somewhere in the rock saying that your colleagues started referring to earth as like a separate individual entity and you guys were separate from earth did you look out when you're looking at the vastness I came back from my first space flight. They guessed right in 1968 or whatever it was.

15:52 a ball with the moon being a ball and the sun's over there. even know. I mean, nobody knows the answer, right? Big Bang and all the rest of it and all the belief systems around the world and how everybody deals with all that. And I sure don't know the If anything, it just deepened my dumbfoundedness at the immensity of it and our tiny little part of it.

18:12 they think that inside every black hole may in fact be a completely different universe. And the reason is we don't know what the universe is made of. We can only account for 5% of the I mean, we're still calling things dark matter and dark energy. No, no. Human and denying me 100 i'm not an idiot but as far as like humans that have ever lived we're the the most informed the most technologically capable but much like when we look back at the

20:17 We're going to look at the space shuttle and go, what were they thinking? the space shuttle. What's the difference? The shuttle is so much more capable. It is this huge telescope. And they weren't automated back then, so we needed a crew to be able to And when things are amazingly complex, they're really expensive and hard to operate safely. and both very carefully evolved to do what they do exquisitely well.

23:35 before it falls. So that's how we stay in orbit, is we go five miles a second. But you can't go This enormous, powerful, And then you use the remaining engines So it's nine minutes. The Soyuz is about 4 or 4.5. What's the most Gs you pulled in one of those things? So there was a paddle you could actually, if you come into the atmosphere the wrong way, can pull 20 or 22G on the way home,

27:17 your body. So therefore, you can survive it. It won't black you out. It doesn't damage you. It's The feeling must be just incredible. But another part of you is just loving the ride so much. Well, I guess that's a good time to do that, right? Because you're completely helpless. We have very, you know, hopefully don't have to do anything, but sometimes things don't go right.

29:44 to a certain point, and then you would land in North Africa or South France or in Spain. is automated? How much of it is manual? We'd like it to be as automated as possible because On the way back to Earth, we've had serious problems with the Soyuz, The feeling that you must have had when you actually stepped whoa, there is something seriously wrong. Why is his vision so wildly different than his inner ear?

32:52 And you're trying to just ignore those symptoms and pay attention to what's going on. complicated process where you have done everything right or enough things right that you can They're good. I was, when we were driving up there, I was worried that it was too cloudy. I was like, And I think about it all the time. I had a similar experience to yours when I was an F-18 pilot.

35:50 So it's both humbling and really inspiring, I think, to see. You see like a star. I mean, the Big Island Mountain is not all that high. So I was going around the world and my son who ran the and we just live on this little And we think the whole universe is here to serve us. You talk about 100 years from now looking back and going, what were we thinking?

39:02 go, what were we thinking? Hopefully. Yeah. Yeah. It's a brute force way. I mean, we're burning dinosaurs to get to space, but so far, I don't know. But we haven't found a clean way to release the energy that gives us nuclear power. into glass and it reduces its volume by 85 to 95 percent and effectively locks in the radioactive plutonium creating a stable end product i've always felt like i mean the the nuclear waste

42:35 Yeah. We have to find as best a tradeoff as we can and still be able to try and sustain as good a standard of living for as many people around the planet as possible. because obviously I enjoy it we use it it's so important for almost everything we do. but that wasn't, it wasn't a possibility and wasn't what it was going to do. And that's not some global warming problem that may manifest itself on our children.

45:38 yeah i agree with you but none of us are lasting forever and people live where they want to live for all the reasons, It's not even close. I mean, do you ponder the possibility? we've been able to prove more and more conclusively just how far from the center of the universe we are is just a natural extension of thinking that we're the center of the universe. You know,

48:28 first time they've ever been exposed to something like that and it's incredibly And it's been my point about circumcision. examinations, these emotionless medical examinations may very well just be the birthing process. And if we can somehow convince ourselves that neither of those two things are true, then We have sent probes to every planet in the solar system

50:41 So I am convinced there's life in the universe. They just hadn't figured anything out yet. if we found some people just from a thousand years ago, a thousand years in our past, I've often said that if there is intelligent life on the Earth Where do we start? There's a whole sea of people living we're so incredibly advanced and yet so So they fall for the Blue Book.

54:05 I read this article. And so, you know, that's pervasive Anybody can get information at any time, but it's not vetted. There's no, it's like if you read The Onion within five minutes or five seconds, you realize, It made me laugh. But the reaction to it made me laugh as well. It's just like, Well, there's folks like you that have experienced technology and innovation at its very height.

56:17 chimps with a language. And it may be that stuff you've read on the Internet they're trying to get the best out of the things that they're naturally inclined towards and your beliefs Why would that become your mantra? be on at&t because that's their network you know like man what are you doing with verizon school Did you see anything up there? that is a weird thing to see it's beautiful it's fascinating

59:33 It's amazing to see. And the awareness of how fascinating it truly is About Ingenuity, Determination, So, folks, go out and buy this book. Go. That's O-N-N-I-T. Bye.