Joe Rogan Experience #416 — Ana Kasparian Transcript

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0:00 the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day thank you for joining us I mean, you're part of it with this podcast. We've got to make sure the advertisers continue giving us money. because I was working at CBS Radio at the time. I don't know if you heard of it. I'm not going to feel fulfilled doing what they're doing. In what year do you think it was where, you know, it started to shift?

3:50 involved in traditional media. You know, you see advertisements for things that you can't even buy And I think people are now more and more aware of it. fuck this. Like, this is, are stupid. With our show, we're on YouTube. around taking upskirt pictures with his cell phone. Okay. So cops finally caught him back in 2010 and yeah they're right taking upskirt pictures with her or of her. Um, and another argument she made was what, I mean,

7:39 I don't know what she looks like, but maybe she has nothing to worry about. right now to even get cases, to get work. So maybe that plays a role in it. But what really but i just yeah and i remember i remember being in the studio like reading the comments and i was They just won. They just won. And I'm totally aware of that. But I just. Yeah, that's hilarious.

9:18 You got to take it with a grain of salt. Really? You should, you know, you should eat glass. I get dick pics regularly. Because I have a fan page on Facebook. He would do evil, evil shit on Reddit. destruction that's around us constantly, a lot of people need some sort of outlet. And they're slowly getting rid of anonymity where they're attaching the comments to a Google Plus account.

12:45 and when people like what you do, when they don't. lot to do with audience feedback. For instance, what I thought about prostitution when I first He said, you gotta let a hoe be a hoe. But if they do it behind the scenes, it's illegal. when you really think about it? I'm not talking about money, but there are emotions that is a different animal. sexual desires. However, women are not allowed to be as open about it because of societal

16:04 love or whatever, then you're considered a prude. There's really no winning. Yeah, women have a you decide to save yourself for marriage or you save yourself for someone that you genuinely love problem with it at all. And then there's That's what I'm into. Yeah. relationship you know like a year later what are you going to be into a year from now yeah just

18:18 Well, that's the American way. You know, there have been many studies about what porn does to the brain. It was just what it was. And they think, oh, am I supposed to look that way? It's very odd. And when the markets were crashing and government bailouts were going So, like, who's pretending that this isn't a real business? We live in this puritanical society.

21:27 Yeah, well, I agree with you on that. If someone is funding you, whether it's the media or whether you're a politician, you're not going to go against them. of our economy, our society. We're privatizing public schools, which is a complete and utter disaster. Don't they have a lot of money? you know, which effectively allows corporations to act as people and make

24:31 Well, when you back something in the corner and shine a light on it, you really get to know its true nature. there's this huge level of apathy right now, which I don't understand because the political climate When you look at the future of this country, the way it's running, the way it is currently this number blows my mind. The top 10% in this country own 75% of the wealth. That is bananas.

26:46 tax rate, but because of corporate loopholes, we actually have the lowest corporate tax It's just too freaky. And so I don't blame people for wanting to be distracted. They didn't have cops. People are like, look, there's no cops. make these amazing cars. And now they're just completely falling apart. And it's freaky. Like, this whole thing is, like,

30:03 like that. In the case of California, of course, Californians voted for it, which was disastrous. exposing this stuff and people in the new media, people that are writing these very, very popular Confusion, turmoil, and questioning on a level that I don't think we've seen before. we had nothing. All we did was create a business model that worked. Cenk does the really serious political reporting, which I'm jealous of.

32:00 Why don't you marry it? I was brought in to make the company money. But that's a side note. And I feel guilty about it. And I go, do you ever think that by following this fake horse and pony show that you're like lending credence to it? Well, I mean, look, there's a huge difference between political reporters in the mainstream Alex Jones hates us. Is he?

34:57 If you met him, he's a sweetheart. By the way, he's probably naked, too. I was Bush's junior, and he was Bush's senior. We were actually wearing these masks. Like, some of the stuff he says, I just don't believe he believes. He was saying that the NSA is going to be reading all your emails They're not going to do that. about, you know, civil liberties violations for a while and they get no attention. So sometimes

38:28 But I know that he's right about a lot of things. Yeah. That's uncanny. Yeah, yeah. He'll just fucking come at you. He covered this in Seattle when the World Trade Organization was making their, I believe it was the 90s, and start arresting peaceful people, which they normally couldn't do. They would do everything necessary to discredit them which made me so angry

41:05 And I had so much hope for that movement. There's too many stinky motherfuckers out there in drum circles. They knew what was happening to other protesters. I mean, all they have to do is go back and to look at what was going on during the Vietnam There's no way. the evidence. I just think that he needs a filter. And that's Alex on the left and me on the right.

43:49 He's great to drink beers with He's been in disputes with all kinds of people. He really does. Send it using stamps.com. still pretty popular though and like those dudes that have those fucking those uh ham radios yeah yeah they And I will not take away from that. Mother nature. and gas companies. not created by humans. They went way back to the 1950s. They were doing trend that we were experiencing with our planet or that it exists but it's not you know created

46:57 Yeah. But I kind of think that more more likely than that And one of the ways it ensures that people three hundred fifty dollar belt with the debit card So he's suing Barney's now for racial profiling. trying to prove like what are you trying to like, who are you trying to prove? Like, what are you trying to prove? Very masculine-like. I want to take care of myself. Like, I don't need a guy to take care of me. And that's not to say that I don't

50:58 and it exists more with people that can't have it and want it very badly. It's like this dull thumping on your helmet because it never really gets to skin. Oh, you know, I got my new Cadillac or whatever. so obsessed with making money. And I hate seeing our brightest students go toward the financial And this emphasis on always having the newest, And they're going to go from that to the next thing.

53:45 but i think that there's there's probably something more going on yeah we're just not aware of because doing? I mean, if it's all just a pool of And we're all trapped up in it, calling it culture and calling it all these other different things. Yeah, they get expensive. I was obsessed. His dad was Gus Zambodi. and he makes these beautiful cues all based on woods that are really exotic and strange burls and weird figure in the wood.

56:14 I mean, there's nothing wrong with that. It's a stupid thing to do. handcrafted pool cues so how much do these cost am i allowed to ask yeah they some of them can Like that's ebony. It's really kind of sad. bone that he got. He uses 10,000 Yeah. I never, I would have never guessed that they could get that expensive. It's like Zambodi and balabushka, the two.

59:33 I just like to spend a lot of money on a good experience. I'm trying to think. about it but i can't really put my finger on it i think it's because i know how hard i work That's not my guilty pleasure. like to treat my friends to things once in a while. You don't have to justify it. Yeah. But Like both my, both my parents came from Armenia. awareness about that because you want society to progress you don't want to

1:03:10 We've beaten it down. It seems like I wonder if one day we're going to get to a point where we don't give a fuck when anybody's racist. like in the case of the Steubenville rape case and how Anonymous, you know, kind of Who find out about this as well? This is like when when there's a gross injustice and it's and it doesn't get rectified but I think there's a lot of people that are just letting their kids raise themselves and they're not even having conversations with them.

1:05:44 And then there's this weird sort of an appeasement thing going on because I'm going to be completely honest. and they think they can get away with it. That's where, like, gang murders take place and gang beatings. I've heard of that kind of stuff happening. Oh, you guys must have gotten some serious hate for that. in this country is men in prison. We rape each other.

1:08:07 Well, it's a dumb point. double standards and certain issues, then you're being disingenuous. You know, you're doing a Oh, all the time? Once a month. I stand corrected then. are as common as birds that shit on cars. Men don't want to hear women talk about certain things. and for the most part, but there is also a portion that just immediately sees me and thinks, oh, she's a young, whatever, relatively good looking.

1:11:00 You're pretty. Right now, you just fed the shit out of the trolls. They win. Do your thing, boys. ha ha ha yeah you both laugh together and that would be it you want that same google me and he's gonna read the some like the hideous shit that people say about me and then is I've been on the show since I was 20. you're just weeding out assholes. if I ever got permanently recorded

1:13:50 Of course. It's silly. It's the best way of looking at it. Teaching people how to fuck their relationships up royally. and also being like a public figure. Well, you can't date a regular dude either. I'm not going to get shut down by this one. good too, right? That sucks. Then you weed out No, no, no. That's not what I meant. I'm super laid back and low maintenance. I actually am. I'm not that bad.

1:16:17 Especially people that are not good at expressing themselves. Who's intelligent when it comes to arguments? no don't say that trust me he's crying no he's not yes he is no he's he's a good guy on the Just fucking around. I don't know. But meanwhile, they're really gay, and they just don't want to grab it. How can you tell? aroused by you he's gotta be gay no no that's the only way that is what it sounds like i know i know

1:19:37 as this you know i know and everybody listens to this including black people that might pretend to But I knew I was talking to a black person. White people can speak like black people. black guy. It was weird. Yeah. That is interesting. Um, going back to the whole gay thing, because I Is that bad? But, you know, so i could be absolutely wrong and There is a lot of gay dudes who try to pretend to be straight.

1:22:32 if you were French Do you remember that scene? The guy that I was talking to just started talking about this interaction that he had never had sex before. Same facts. I love it. The guy that I was talking to just started talking about this interaction that he had But he was a beautiful man. Because she was like, he was, like, she was batting way over her head with him. He was at

1:24:18 most attractive guy in the world usually they're they're usually pretty confident let me just point Uh-huh. They're fucking crazy. I've only been in Glendale like a few times. Come on. who's out of her league right? about that would you ever really ever think that a guy would be prettier a man is as as faithful Yeah. to me most is, like, I know! Sorry about that. No, those shows were great.

1:26:59 if I met you and I was on a beach Do you find that you meet guys inside and like dating like other reporters or journalists or career than mine because I want to learn something from someone I'm dating. Do you worry at all that with the stuff and then what happened to him. one of the most driven people that I've ever met in my entire life. He made me feel like shit about

1:29:18 Michael Hastings won awards for it, and that kind of put him on the map. basically orchestrated by the government or if this was a real accident. And I've never felt the way I felt in that moment. like, look, don't comment on the Michael Hastings story. Comment on what happens in your crash But what I do know is his family, including his brother, have said that he was increasingly

1:32:35 they can leak that to the public and they can destroy your reputation. Do you as a journalist this guy was going after generals. It's also possible that the dude was doing drugs, and he was going crazy from the trauma of this whole thing about thinking he's the one who's you know revealing things that american should know about information now. We know what the government is doing. The government is indiscriminately

1:35:18 stress is he under? Can you imagine? He had a hot girlfriend and a cushy job in Hawaii. He left all of that. If someone doesn't get in there and breach it, That's unbelievable. whatever, you know, because you're going to be forced to. There's going to be so much crap out there about everyone that you're just going to have to deal with it. Well, that's going to be

1:38:07 It's not like that. So you have, you know, you have two kids. page, essentially, I mean, whether or not you get 14,000 hits or 14 billion, it's really the very careful about what you share and what you don't Not even a porn star. Girls just holding Oh, my God. Just don't fucking do it. I agree with you. Yeah. this country's going crazy. He was trying to be Mr. T.

1:41:22 I know, but look, Canada might be a little different, I don't think you should get fired, Can you do that? Okay, what about Soul Man? Do you remember that guy? volleyball movie he's in how the fuck do you remember that how dare you but soul man uh he Yeah. The standard is probably a little different in's insane. I don't know. Is that offensive? The standard is probably a little different in movies,

1:43:25 Why? I think it's just an outfit. black person pretending to be a white person, but Tropic Thunder. But based on where I stand now, I just feel like, face and racist bullshit. A specific guy. You're Mr. T. He doesn't. I appreciate where you're coming from. I wouldn't be like, man, you're fucking racist, bro. contest and they won they won best contest or bit i'm sorry best costume so like what amazes me is

1:47:10 each other that everything's going to be cool. Yeah. You know, when people in Alaska before the internet. Yeah. The pilots? That plane that crashed in San Francisco a couple months ago. Very tasteless. They're just dumb. That's what it is. like more aware of the kind of criticism you're going to get. Yeah. Well, a lot of people are just dumb. I'm not into girls that would potentially kick my ass.

1:49:51 I guarantee you I know it was Jim Norton. Oh, what's up, dude? But we do. Howard Stern's a brilliant man. But, you know, I mean, I think he's also got a much larger audience. did he leave a book? He's awesome. always that conflict there. Or just a stand-up comedian or just an MMA fighter or just a friend. I want to talk to people and pick their brain,

1:53:01 I think the celebrity stuff's fun, too. and that, like with Stern interviews, He can make any interview interesting because he will ask inappropriate But then I was like, you know, the fuck's going to give me a radio job and that's not going to happen. it's just a conversation um it's really difficult to find guests that are willing to have a three hour long conversation

1:55:33 weird about you. They get to know you is to be open-minded especially at this point in our lives like when we're you know willing to meet It doesn't bother me. You do you. and just starts talking about swinging and what he does I wonder what kind of guys he's uncomfortable with. So he can like give the red light. sex like i don't care if that doesn't bother like if i found out someone i'm hanging out with is

1:58:37 You would judge him. I like to pretend to be a chipmunk mascot. Like guys who like to wear diapers and they like to get changed. Well, when people start dating each other, this is my thing, my your butt. Oh my God. I remember not healthy though but that's that's how can you say it's not and you can say wear a fucking furry They want a girl who's all about him all the time.

2:01:24 I love like independent, strong people. A lot of people do like that. I want a guy that I'm physically attracted to but I do believe that a guy chair you know like hey you know you're playing musical chairs the music stops like men like always say like oh if i knew if i was a black belt i'd go to the ufc kick everybody's So are relationships. And I can't use all the stuff that I learned in my pickup artist book that I've been reading for the past six months.

2:04:23 Yeah. It's not like I've been dating, like, a billion guys, right? I think a lot of relationships are suffocating What is the crisis that you just recently survived and just washed up on shore and now I mean, there's the bright side of it. Half? Half of them? They are crazy. Did you see that new Oculus Rift thing that they have? there'll be something that they won't have the effort to pursue anymore right that's going to be real i've talked i've talked

2:07:32 You're always going to want to have sex with them maybe. to the necessity of human interaction, in some Asian countries, nurturing and caring and cuddles with him and watches movies with him and stuff like that. like $125. So you have to budget, Oh yeah. No, don't get me wrong. I'm not saying that. Men definitely want an emotional connection It's completely natural.

2:10:19 to cuddle with them like that. Me as a guy, I wouldn't trust a guy. Yeah. Like we're not cuddling What kind of a woman are you? Who are you? somehow convinces someone but what was it that being on the show changed where you had this shift in your attitude about legalized prostitution? normal human behavior. People want sex. Some people, unfortunately, have to pay for sex.

2:12:47 You could rub their feet till the cows come home with oil. That's a crime. I definitely think it would get you in a lot of trouble. You don't even look at each other. There's websites. And of course it doesn't just stop at a handjob. It goes further than that in some cases, right? But the reality is that money is going to be changing hands whether you like it or not.

2:15:15 in the world it's a huge part of the economy and the business has become medical in california in the East Coast that legalized it. I believe it was in Maine. Yes, Portland, Maine. Yeah, Just like you're not getting it from prostitution. But because it's illegal, they're not getting their taxes from it. it's like they're a multi-billion dollar part of the economy up there. So it's this

2:17:53 Yeah. So he commissioned, I believe he was a governor at the time. He was a politician with But that had so many negative ramifications in the country. That's slaves. Yeah, like a misdemeanor citation, something like that. They're undocumented. You know what I mean? We're just kind of like, well, you know, whatever. here from other places to penalize a baby or to say that, well, you know what?

2:21:21 In a lot of cases, especially in California, I mean, they pay taxes in the form of, first of all, they pay Social Security, And right now we have clowns in office that can't seem to agree on anything and refuse to work with one another. that will blow your mind. Just these great Gatsby houses where like oh my goodness like this fucking giant circular driveway

2:23:23 We're not dealing with it, that the government has to subsidize their health care I told you, Joe Rogan! You can pay people dirt wages. Do you see like a pot of gold in the rainbow for all this? the obama administration can go i'd drop a drone or do a drone strike on an American citizen and his 16-year-old son, And, you know, he was an American. But, I mean, most of these stories are important news stories.

2:26:50 of the American people. But the way that you can fix that is by creating a media, a form be politically active i'm teaching a class at cal state northridge right now it's a journalism class And the vast majority of them were like entertainment news, sports news, since it's my first time doing it. But you've got to start by changing the way people learn about journalism,

2:29:05 And the type of stories that they pitch now are very different from what they started pitching in the beginning of the semester. happening on a daily basis no no i do how does a regular person it's difficult it's difficult And God forbid if you have a fucking hobby. Too many hours. and doing things that we want to do because we just want to shut our brains off we want to numb ourselves to what's going on in the world right instead of

2:30:52 being bailed out, and about What do you mean you're limiting it to a half a million? In every news story, it's kind of amazing. And it always goes back to who is funding these that we're dealing with right now, This is Congress of America. then we can actually have this constitutional amendment to get money out of politics. It's possible. We just need to inform people about it. Wolf-pack.com.

2:33:28 and they can't extract money anymore. is we need new young politicians. the corporations need you to do. That's my opinion. I'm with you on this. But I talked to Sam Harris, who I respect very greatly, What explains that, his reversal on Guantanamo Bay, I mean, if you're really concerned about national security, it's very curious for you to go about keeping the country safe by causing so much hostility toward the U.S.

2:35:56 almost all of his policies, he's always been so afraid of Republicans, which drives me crazy. political gain, which is really frustrating. You know what I mean? It's, oh, look, it turns out And they'll have these opinions on something political or what the Democrats want. And they can walk through life pretending to have regular emotions and regular feelings.

2:38:14 I met a lot of cool actors. Everyone's wearing what everybody else is wearing. He was a young man at the time. There's no base. If Elizabeth Warren ran for president, I'd be like, Hillary who? I mean, when this whole Rob Ford thing was happening in Toronto, there were a number of supporters because they thought that it was refreshing that he was so honest.

2:40:29 But if you look at a guy that's that fat, he's this giant moon face. That guy's not scared of anything. Exactly. Are you unaware of the internet and how it holds you accountable to what you've done and said in the past? cult. Oh. And then he went off and started criticizing the Affordable Care Act. and they just realize the depth of the puzzle, If he got on TV and just said, listen, I've been bullshitting you people for eight years.

2:43:24 They don't want to look bad because they want to make sure another Democrat gets elected. And it's all BS. It's the And I think that's one of the benefits of having a Democrat in office is you get more equality, which seems to be a clusterfuck. The website keeps crashing. Yeah. porn websites, but I'm saying anybody out there, perverts, you weirdos, if you ever gone to one

2:45:46 Do you? That's amazing. No, it I have doubled out on my Instagram page, bitch. Do you? Yeah, you have a ton of followers on Twitter. To inflate things. Yeah. think so. I think that's decent. How long you been on the Young Turks? Oh gosh, for seven years. Just one of those. is tainted at this point. Whatever you want to call it. that. Like I want to wear my dresses and I want to feel sexy and beautiful and I want

2:48:57 Well, then they start turning that against you instead of saying, look, hey, it's different i'm wearing something that's considered sexy doesn't mean that I'm asking people to objectify me. If someone is attracted to you physically, are they objectifying you? How is that objectifying? I think that it becomes wrong when that's all you see in the person, right? When that's all

2:51:38 Maybe he likes having a dumb girlfriend or a dumb boyfriend. being attractive. I mean, I think there's an issue in that as well. If there wasn't an issue in that, and you're walking them a green light to end it It was a lot of fun. They're like, you've got to give me a shout-out. Use the code word ROGAN in the referral box and save yourself some cash, son.

2:53:52 We will be back tomorrow with the great Graham Hancock,