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Joe Rogan Experience #4190002 — Lorenzo Hagerty Transcript

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0:00 Is it recording? that you have to put your commercials in the middle and everything. Lawyers mainly know how to use the library and have their secretaries type up all these things, you know, because they've got to go by. I said, well, Jim, you can file a lawsuit, but you're not going to win because he's in the right here. And that was when I just – it had been building up to that because I'd been doing stuff that, I didn't become a lawyer to hurt people and do stuff like that.

2:08 Pyramid company, yeah. And it looked like their two-face. So when you put aloe vera on your face- Wow. What happened? Yeah, I think Amway finally bought them or something like that. Herbalife. And then my partner and I started a jewelry company. And we kind of fell out. And I got involved in that for a while. And we were selling all kinds of things. And then my partner and I started a jewelry company.

4:25 that wound up making $20,000 a month and stuff like that. And so those things did happen, I believe it. People that have never had a career as a comedian, but they decided to start teaching comedy, They didn't want to have any part of it. That's hilarious. But what else has he done? He has a lot more confidence than I have. The first time. The whole idea is getting through it quickly.

6:56 Yeah, I don't know. Well, you know, the three laws of taking psychedelics are, number one, cars are real. ground? But I used to hang out in Lightning Hopkins Bar. you know he'd rap with us and stuff and and i said hey i can play the spoons and he says yeah Oh, no, no. Yeah, that's right. at Houston Yacht Club. That's how I got there. Well, because of

9:22 being like really bold He did so much coke, he was hearing young kid then when he was with him but can you imagine he did so much coke he was hearing voices gave me my first lines of coke Yeah. Why acquire that? That seems really silly. Yeah. I never did the cocaine, but I've had a So we were driving back from that and yeah it's another thing it's another one of those things that your body connects to chemicals and

12:07 And the guy that owned the boat was from Houston, and I was in law school there. And I drove straight through from New Orleans to Houston. For me, it was just a total crash. I only did it once. I was like, wow, I am stupid as fuck. when you're locked into it is very appealing, I did more MDMA than is, you know, sensible. the mainstay, although there's a guy that, I'll think of his name in a minute, everybody thought

15:00 Whoa. It was one of the women there that, actually, she was one of my distributors. You were like human guinea pigs. What? Five years after, nothing happened. MRI or something like that. And I, you know, maybe I would be a genius today if I hadn't done that. and she still let that hit the air. Sort of like the Benghazi thing, only it didn't get busted.

18:08 who the chemist was, stuff like that. But today it's really not safe unless you're the chemist But see, that would be used with a doctor who knows his supply and stuff like that. You were just learning. Oh, for sure. They're in connection. But then again, the argument is like, oh, that's going to be legal. Yeah, but still people would be still. I'm not an activist in drug policy or stuff like that.

20:15 Fucking YouTube. not that it's not dangerous, but you know, when I first moved to Florida, a little after that, Oh, my God. nutmeg, so what's that about? That's what I heard too. Yeah, there were some guys on my message board that were go if you're going to do a drug. Yeah. But don't read the good trip reports. And if you can't handle a bad trip, then don't go. But don't read the good trip reports.

22:23 Do you know that some of their big customers, Well, to find out more about, you know, a new drug will hit the streets, What do we do to them? They're going to go, why didn't they fix that? Well, you know, some of them are safer than others, And they cut the guy off and threw him out of the hearing. Yeah. I have some anecdotal evidence of older people in nursing

25:12 And pretty soon they're going to the dispensary regularly. There's a lot of folks that have experienced some pain relief, especially if it's high in CBDs, right? Yeah, several times, mainly on ayahuasca. I don't know why. fascinating, you know? if you're in a baseline sober consciousness. comes everything that everyone ever used on earth. also imagining airplanes. Yeah. Somebody had to imagine all of those. All of that. Without that,

29:39 So when you see something and you say, well, maybe it was my imagination, I'm not exactly And I like that. Just look at all the different varieties of insects. Or bees. The real super high-frequency power lines, yeah, there have been. Mm-hmm. There's Wi-Fi everywhere now. Yeah. And I think that was a valid issue of a ticket, too. Well, they like the technology they have.

33:08 What would happen? speeding tickets. But isn't that insane? I mean, look, it's one thing if you want to ticket someone 55 fucking miles an hour. We're just going, Jesus Christ. air on the street, and they're going to start to give people tickets for these things. Well, you know, it used to be you'd put your pot in coffee and the dogs couldn't smell it for the coffee.

35:44 This probably is made up, but it's a great story. I don't know. It brings in deer, brings in elk, brings in moose. Right. The pubes just all vanished. I mean, if you see one in real life, And people eat them. Apparently, That sounds like it would be pretty tough. Probably if you didn't know what it was, you'd say, hey, this is kind of interesting meat.

38:29 is your body burning off calories to keep itself warm. I'm going actually this weekend. that's overrun with deer, on game meat. It's an interesting connection that you have and we know how it's grown and raised and everything. someone to run that plot of land and produce food for this group of people. And they supply most of the local organic stores.

41:29 And it's real good, fresh food. I'm just, I exercise, I eat well, but you know, I it's, it's, uh, I'm not stressed about that. I here's a pill, it'll give you another 100 years, what they're going to have to go through. Oh, that's funny. Now it's my grandkids. If it wasn't for that, I'd have a little problem with women. cool if it was legal. Because when you and your partner get to the point, say, you know, if it's

44:47 It was a rocky period for a while, but we've, you know, worked ourselves through that to And then sometimes a psychedelic journey together can open those ideas up and she said, huh, that's no big deal. You have to get that information. You don't have a choice. You're going to go through it anyway. it doesn't matter what happens to you, how big the tragedy is that after some enough time passes,

46:55 you know, car breaks. It can be a changing experience. And when you get fired, you go, all right, what are we doing here? They don't know any racism yet. you like this fucking thing is I'm mad as hell and I'm not gonna take it My five-year year old takes her toy My parents didn't. Shut up. That's how I grew up. Shut up. Shut your mouth. I'll break both

49:51 Speculations on the Evolution of Global Consciousness. I've got a fiction book up now Oh, yeah. And so I really didn't think anything bad was going to happen. What the fuck did they do for air traffic controllers before they were computers? Are you really? Oh, they're great fun. this one track that we would take on Sunday Yeah. pretty dangerous. at the time.

52:44 and they didn't know we had a close call. But, you know, I should have cleared it by 500 feet or something like that. and knocked you off? Well, you wouldn't have launched. or something on it. And you had to go five miles away, anywhere in the radius of five miles away My ex-wife took me on a balloon ride for my 40th birthday. Wow. and he wanted to jump out, but I didn't want to do it

55:09 That sounds scary. You pull the top out and then it'll deflate and land down. You know, the FAA lets you because if you're out of fuel. of balloonists. How rude. That's why they ruined the whole thing. Look at this crazy. No. Wow. Well, they've got guys that have those wingsuits that jump off cliffs. Yeah, that one I haven't seen. My friend Willie has

58:22 that's going to be able to make it a viable mode of transportation. We didn't have to learn that to get a license for balloons because, you know, it's just up and down. and you tell them where you're going to launch Well, maybe. What was that one you just put up, Jamie? She's got a helmet on. I thought I was wrong. It's not even really a jetpack. He was in the middle of a boxing match.

1:00:34 for like a half an hour while they had to arrest this guy. But that was... And look, they stop, and they're like, what the hell? I'm surprised they didn't just reschedule the fight. Poor fighters, though. But I think it was of a needy bitch. you very rarely hear or something. I can't remember. You're dealing with outside. And one time, it started raining.

1:02:59 I think it's called King of the Cage Wet and Wild, My dad took me to see him in the Elgin High School gymnasium, and the big deal, he had Gorgeous George. Who's the champion of the world? What a nutty race. what you're doing, You know so much. Well, thank you, but I'm not trying. And also as far as, like, I don't, you know, I just like what I like.

1:05:30 just by virtue of the fact they're getting more information than they've ever gotten before. prejudice against people who you know engage in martial arts and exercise just I've heard so many of your podcasts You are on episode 419. you almost got on 420 yeah oh you know what we were gonna do a special 420 episode but now i'm It's not too far along yet.

1:07:43 People are fucking freaking out. and then the real master tapes Wow. That's when you know you get too high when you change your name. I said, Oh, that's my name, too. Can people donate it if they want to? And it all goes to the same place. And the book, The Spirit of the Internet, All on Kindle. And I think both of our audiences cross a lot, and so I'm glad they both got to hear it.