Joe Rogan Experience #438 — Dr. Mark Gordon Transcript
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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Nobody can spit out information. notebook or I wish I was recording it because I'm, I always try to remember as much as possible. the liver uses up its ability to continue the process, Now, where do they get that? Where do they get glutathione? Because I know Dave Asprey's really destroyed by the acid that's in the stomach. But if you wrap it in this protection called the
3:38 minutes later, clears the bell, woke up the next day, went out partying again, couldn't get drunk. Maybe that guy was lying. to fall back onto i need to try that now but i don't want to get drunk enough to try it i'm scared That's pretty fascinating. You mean like bad words I use? I mean, if you and I were sitting down just having a conversation, we would talk like two normal people.
5:48 because these people never swear. It's silly. Well, I use words like anal retentive instead of assholes. Alcohol is a sugar. The more carbs, the better. It is. Like, that's the craziest thing about the alcohol. It's pretty ridiculous. It makes you fat. that makes you just go and some dude poor Nancy she needs a hug a lot of people are angry at her not me Why was I saying that this is bad? I'm going to take my shoes off now. Yeah.
8:36 You're a big fat lady, and you're talking about people being lazy. That's nonsense. foolishly ignorant as It's a really sneaky thing. you talking about this is the stupidest idea ever you you can make money but you can't put it in a like you're watching a fucking movie. This guy's got like a space nose on. trying to smell weed. It smells good. On my body. Well, it is legal. You can get hemp oil. What do you mean? You shit. If hemp oil was legal, I'd be using it. On what? On my body.
12:00 I mean, marijuana is not even a real word. It's got a compass on the end of it and shit sniffer, not even your own nose, Electronic fucking fake nose. can go to Colorado, have his own condo, And it all eats itself. Denver's strong. They're not allowed to put their money in banks. want marijuana, You don't really need to pay for it. They've been busting houses, million-dollar houses with the entire basement, first floor, second floor
15:08 I believe they were the former FBI or former CIA. who it was but the dea literally went into their fucking house because they thought they were We've got wells. into the American economy buying businesses. very ambitious, folks. It would be over real weed. They're very ambitious folks. And now China, the character has become, Lenovo bought IBM ThinkPad,
17:33 It's too pretentious. PC laptops had that little nipple. Yeah, dude. I don't play games. No. You can buy, you know, liquid drinks and protein. you were allowed to have more than one kid. And it's craziness. valley if you to say white man gotta keep them gotta keep in their place I think so. be someplace between 6 to 10 million coming just to California.
21:18 Fucking crazy, man. Yeah, there is always new shit coming along, right? Not to say that people don't do terrible things over here. And it's extremely scary, you know, with three daughters and having to look at that one can be pulled off the street, you know, and sold as in slavery, which is very, very common. He'd kidnapped them and locked them up in his basement.
23:11 going on, the thing that happened in India. I think the reason why we're hearing about so many crimes from there, though, is that we can't even realize what it's like to have an extra, like what we have now, plus an extra 700 million. But it's wall to wall. Yeah, that's so fucking crazy. countries. It's almost inevitable numbers wise, right? You're just going to run into an uncontrollable, unmanageable size of humans, whether it's
25:29 Because what nature will do is say, oh, there's too many of you fuckers. You hope. and start, you know, destroying our own cells, our own tissue, our bones, rheumatoid arthritis. remember really what the numbers are. I stopped pediatrics years ago. But when you inject all these inflammatory chemicals, I mean, that's what happens when No. because it could kill them.
28:18 Abso-fucking-lutely. because what are you shooting in there? where you don't give them any shots There's a lot of money in fucking vaccines. You can give them a hard vaccine. It doesn't fully develop to maybe five years of age in the average child. i've read online dismiss me away please but but recognize that this is not as cut and dry as you think.
31:00 to realize it's a fucking chemical. Yes. I've done the studies. Vaccines are awesome. It's good. It's just them as prisoners? Because it would have to be so perfect in order for my experiments to work. that occasionally there could be problems when you inject kids. Boom. You hope you get a couple of them that have no reaction. Hold on. Why are you making that much money?
34:44 I'll give you an example that you It's because they have a program for hardship cases, and the CEO was on this radio program Is that what they're saying? Why is gasoline 47 cents in Abu Dhabi? But how is research and development funded when they do something like that? How long does stuff like that take? Like if they're going to develop some sort of a crazy pill, what's like a high-end figure? High-end could be, you know,
37:45 There was another drug that was for ovarian cancer, which is a very drastic thing. And the drug for diabetes, which was taken off the market after a year because of liver failure. It's a real bad inflammation his knees and then his his family people around him start saying like what's going on I mean, and even fucking MMA fighters, 205-pound guy meds.
40:00 Have you ever had genetic testing? No, they'll find Neanderthals No, no, no. That's what I was just going to tell you. Because fossils are really difficult to create. You know, you have to get caught in some sort of a natural disaster, a mudslide or, you know, boy, that's a fucking shitty record we're dealing with. Whenever it was that they discovered that hobbit man, Flores.
42:45 They think that they might have been... But they think that that has They have the various forms of humans. hobbit person thing right I mean this absolutely without doubt walked alongside with people so if If there was a small amount of those people they're like, holy shit. Maybe I just made that up. Yes, Indonesia. crazy lizards like crocodiles and shit they actually grow when they're on islands yeah
46:17 Strange, isn't it? Oh, I've seen one. The last one where they were in. Evil fucking lizards. Yeah. You want a crocodile? It's going to eat you. We've got two cats and two dogs. other stuff do you think besides this glutathione what other stuff do you think that people should No minerals. that we're losing a lot of the minerals. whether or not it's zinc
50:25 where it's about a 50-million-year-old cistern take regular tap water and make it into smaller molecules. Water is an interesting molecule and doesn't allow for bioavailable water. There's symptomatic complaints of pain and swelling and all that's gone. and our body does much better in alkaline situations. Inflammation, if your body is and the information that they're running their practices on is so antiquated.
54:08 Testicular, seminomas, testicular cancer, you know, there's genetic predisposition for What a stupid design. Vasectomy. Vasectomy. So do you think dudes lose like when they're shooting blanks, they lose like this psychological feeling of actually being potent? Orgasm? But what if you're one of those people and you already got snipped? They go in there and microsurgically reattach your pecker pump?
57:09 Like that's a male, like a male shot, right? No, if a male has a low sperm count and he wants to So, yes, aspiration. That doesn't seem like a good idea. The adult industry, Okay, fine. Okay. So that's why we call it the adult industry. I know you're joking. So what should I use instead of the adult industry? and it makes them have an erection to deliver.
1:00:00 It's in her body. Comes out of her vagina, for sure. Well, that's not true. I thought this was a free-for situation, sir. It's a woman. Don't get upset at me, ladies and gentlemen. What can I do? So obviously, gals are throwing out pheromones. Making money on that smell. understanding about the condition of the person. They picked the guys that were fat. They picked
1:02:35 and just being near them, You know, we have centers, you know, the libido area, which is another way of saying the sex area of the brain. There has to be a guy. Yeah. one of the things that I didn't mention is that you're one of the, Great question. I had started shifting over to hormone modulation that they used to call, Head trauma creates a situation
1:06:29 So I've got kids right now that have had motor vehicle accidents, slip and falls, blunt head trauma, assaults that have had developed hormonal deficiency. So if you're making not enough growth hormone or not enough IGF-1, growth hormone deficiency number two, thyroid number three, cortisol, which is the adaptive week. Yeah, that's something that people really need to, it's something that people need to
1:09:23 That's a steroid. Bubba? Diabetes increased. And we're now military who committed suicide. They all had PST, you know, post-traumatic stress syndrome, which is So what we've developed over the past 10 years is this testing to allow for someone to have their hormones checked to determine if there's So the argument is like, there's a big issue, I'm sure you know, about it in mixed martial
1:12:55 Or if it's not that, it's head trauma. I mean, if you look up on the Internet, DTI MRI, That's insane. Yes. I'll send you some. Louis, I think just got another $8 million grant to do DTI, fMRI, and one other study of the brain, the ability to do more than one thing at once, To fix everything? I've got a problem. It's being used in the military right now by Dr. David Hauger.
1:16:09 It's done. That's the... Drown it in vodka is it follows the red blood cells They don't even have to, like, check your breath But so was a cell phone, right? See? Because Apple people go crazy when you start talking shit about Apple. People are tired of me talking about this. You made me leave with your little skinny screen. They're still great too.
1:18:21 Yeah, you're going to put a billboard up. and they looked at it almost with a willful ignorance. They just don't talk to me. Baseball, right? I don't remember exactly what it is. We love seeing people getting hurt. The ones from New York. Yeah. Rangers. It was the Rangers. It was the Rangers. Great game. Absolutely great game. And she was cheering when any someone was hit against the checked against the wall. Right. Unbelievable. And that's what they do. And then in the middle of the game, they pull off their gloves and they got into this huge fight. I was unbelievable. Yeah. It was my first time at the rink. Well, the weirdest thing about hockey fights is that it's really assault. Like, you're allowed to assault each other.
1:21:19 Everybody knows what's happening. They're so crazy. McSorley. You know, bench clean, brawl, that becomes a really big deal if baseball players fight on TV. You know? But if you're in a hockey rink, Are you asking football questions? where it's a little bit more civilized in the brawling. And then we get separated. I mean, they hit each other full clip while they're running, but they rarely kick each other's asses.
1:24:03 but it makes no sense that hockey players are allowed to fight, They're going to take out all these crazy side hits and put in brawls. Well, those are good too because you can't That's hilarious. How dare you. But if you force people in a situation more often because you could take it? That's the point. You've got, you know, had a patient who was driving a motorcycle up to 405 at 70 miles an hour and he's clipped by a car. He goes up,
1:26:13 Yeah. Anhedonism. And his testosterone, we tested him, his testosterone was zero. Really, really low. Right. Too little. It's really, that's the difficulty. said deca nangelo and taconate, which is a form of testosterone, was 13 and the cutoff was 9. But athletic commission testing is not quite at that level. It's the ones that protect the, no, it's not the anti-doping.
1:29:54 You know, they protect the player from invasion of privacy by having it urine as opposed to blood. If you're taking vitamin supplements, that's illegal because it's enhancing. unless you're taking drugs. Blood doping is very common where they take their blood out and they put it back in. Don't let them use pregnenolone. But isn't it like bioavailability?
1:32:18 They've got decongestants. And believe it or not, there are articles that talk about testosterone deficiency and ADD. i mean you're you're a scientist you're a doctor you're a smart dude when you're looking at the They're bulletproof. Giant, huge Hulk dudes. We're going to have an army of Hulks. Yeah, wasn't it? The Enola Gay. I mean, it's literally been the last time anybody used a nuclear bomb.
1:35:30 that makes sense do you think that it could be there are, let's see, there's a center that's using stem cells to generate new heart valves. and they measured the amount of oxygen in it. and then I'm spouting out as if I wrote the paperwork myself. I was listening to something on the way over here where it was a discussion of the Peruvian rainforest and their collection of rubber in the early 1900s
1:38:20 so it's like literally the same sort of practice but it happened in the early 1900s. a hundred million thousand year old to preserve it. They get together with Google The government. Because it could happen. And all the medicinal things that we're losing They're doing research on it to try to convert. They're doing research on it to try to convert it into a
1:40:14 and it just over floods your You know how they plump when you cook them? To counter it. If you tell me it's working the same thing as Viagra, Levitra, Xylose. But what is the... I think it's 30 milligrams per tablet and it's two tablets. But what is Sudafed? Correct. They went too nutty. I want five. healer. I'm a heal're not a fucking healer. No, I've never had anyone try to heal me other than an MD.
1:43:01 18 months later, I was 214 pounds at 9 to 10 pounds, 9 to 10% body fat. 18 months later, I was 214 pounds at 9 to 10% body fat. like the idea of taking testosterone or whatever the fuck you're taking, growth hormone. And the articles that come out to refute it, you're talking about scientific articles. But if you looked at the study, it was a flawed study.
1:45:27 this way. So let's do that and pretend it's under good faith. Correct. So there are academicians, the daddy's an asshole. Well, see, why does it make it illegal for anyone to dispense it for any reasons if it's Trying to live forever and shut everybody else down. that could be beneficial. is a performance-enhancing drug If you're not, stop right now.
1:48:07 Yes, I have a disease. Correct. How much is each pill? I used to buy it because I have a pharmacist license. Yeah, I wouldn't either. In fact, I had a guy that's from MAPS, the Multidisciplinary Psychedelic Studies group, It's not like you're drunk. You're not just using it as an excuse or a crutch. This stuff doesn't do it. Adderall is methamphetamine.
1:50:44 A friend gave it to me, so I took a time-release capsule, one, you know, heroin and, uh, quaaludes and whatever else. And two is, um, Adderall. And I things like Adderall and Provigil and NuVigil. NuVigil and Provigil, they work very well without I mean, maybe this is just, they're just not that good at it yet, but one day they're going to have Yeah.
1:53:47 So I think they'll find, once they finalize the... We have the map, but we don't know where we're And once they learn how to master without creating zombies or something. Well, for watching it. You know the old saying, don't fuck with Mother Nature. No. So what's going to happen? Catholic school for one year. You made it through. Do you listen to the Alex Jones show?
1:56:05 like, what was that from? computer game? No, no, no. Back off. What's the name of that series? of the sun hot. and they came with the chimpanzees. Yeah. Let's see if it enhances them before it makes them into a zombie. That's going to fucking suck. They're not going to fix that. So you're worried about genetic engineering. What is it called? Cum. This is soy?
2:00:00 The one that I didn't bring you That's not true, because Brian Redband, you didn't meet him? Well, it's a premise that I have is why, Soy has these two chemicals, genistein and diastein, which can block the estrogen receptors because it's a weak estrogen receptor. is possibly coming from the fact that a lot of our meat has antibiotics in it so that the animals
2:01:54 You'd really have to cook it. I have a goal. That's what's left. That shit is good for you. I shot him with a bullet, with a gun. You could drop those things and they're fine. It's a very fucking horrible, depressing feeling. it all together. And then I wounded in the second attempt to hit it. So you're at the range with a Well, you can use copper.
2:04:43 Is that true? Have a giveaway. You know where it's going now? You've got aluminum jackets now. What are they doing with all that? Oh my God, they're going to snipe us. And he's like, fuck. David Icke. valid points on corruption and positions of power okay. I'll tell you right now. That doesn't exist. Boy, they could freak people the fuck out because the artificial Bigfoots that they create now are
2:08:20 Look at this. That seems like something that would be in a modern version of Twilight Zone. Your CGI is not that good. What it actually is, who knows. It's a true rainforest. it nobody most likely bullshit so you're basically saying because they haven't had more evidence literally ripped out by their root ball like the amount of strength that someone would have to have
2:11:20 It's so incredibly dense with pine needles. It's really fucking cool, though. And she said it's the only time she ever saw it Maybe it was a bear that got hit in the face with a rock. And if you wanted to think about some old man that lives in the woods and, you know, some why, you know, you never know what the fuck's around any corner when you're in the woods, especially
2:13:00 your kids. What was that movie? Ooh, that's a tough one. Yeah. They've set up everything. cameras. Well, why didn't you take a picture? Why didn't you have a camera? Phoenix Lights. Is that the Phoenix Lights? In fact, I'm going to Phoenix this weekend. But what it was, who knows? Area 51, they launched. Look at you. has somehow or another kept people from the information that human beings have been visited
2:15:55 Well, I honestly, I mean, all bullshit aside, putting myself out there not worried about what I look like. And I know that there's been a bunch of different stages of us along the way. Is it possible that something came down and fucked with us the same way we fuck with virtually everything that we find in the wild? I think they're still using it in some manufacturing.
2:17:37 both men died of just horrible diseases horrible like hemorrhagic viruses. Their eyes were fucking bleeding. Sounds like a great premise for a movie. How about that? That's a terrible way to die, though, man. How do you get Ebola? Those fucking with the HIV, you know, these guys. It starts with an M. who brought it over to the States. He was gay. Do you remember what it's called?
2:21:14 si V it was simian immune virus and then when it's a humans human immuno virus No one talks about it. Just thinking about that is so true. Yeah, it was in Zaire, French company, French group. Oh, the world's most dangerous virus. Yeah, but sitting there watching it, I was just glued to it. triggered by the mass vaccination campaign V-A-C-C-I-N-I-A V-A-C-C-I-N-I-A V-A-C-C-I-N-I-A, vaccinia, awakened the unsuspected
2:24:21 Human viruses stay in humans. Yeah, it seems like it should. Whatever. But I think there's, if you look at the best financing, war machinery, war is incredible financing. You know the truth about Afghanistan and Iraq? a gift for their humanitarian service to the military there? We had shit to do. If it wasn't for us, you wouldn't even be getting any freedom.
2:27:15 that have been accidentally created? I don't do those. I'm at 6 a.m. When I take them to school, most of the time my wife does, but when I do take them to school, I actually run with the 5-year-old. Like, God, it's just things that they think their kid will eat, You know, give them something because want to do that work. They're like, this fucking kid's not listening.
2:28:54 It's the passive way. They don't think about minerals. That's what people would do if they could. You got it. Oh, a cronut. God, we're so stupid. special donuts. That's what you're saying? That's New York They're what two bucks three bucks each It can't So there's Burbank yeah They need to expand. You hear Bon Jovi singing. It's a million milligrams of sugar.
2:32:21 A cronut burger. So it's a croissant donut mix with a cheeseburger, and they smash it all together and put powdered Do you allow yourself cheat days? I know you're really healthy for the most part. No, I ourselves. We're crazy. That looks almost edible. Do you allow yourself cheat days? Yep. Oh is that what you eat? How about yogurt Acai How about a brownie with hot fudge on it, just rich and buttery?
2:33:42 I might have a carbonated drink once a month. It's a reward for your hard work. kind of a guy. Oh, The Rock's cheat days He used to be a normal sized like big athlete. But now he's fucking, that guy who gives a fuck what he's eating he is goddamn huge he used to be a normal of donuts and literally like jugs of milk, like five gallon jugs of milk and this fucking
2:35:20 Wow. into this ultimate super athlete machine. He's too big. For the average guy, brain injury, and I'll just interject this, if they're with the military or with the police Is it shocking for you how easy it is to damage the brain? Wow. You're standing there in the ring and someone's just tapping you, you know, a little bit. Not me, bro. I know. Think of it this way. You're standing there in the ring, and someone's just tapping you a little bit.
2:38:22 There's been quite a few actually guys who realized back you're more likely to hurt it again? There are connections from the different lobes of the brain, For 25 fucking years. They're looking for their own cure. Yeah, Adderall they prescribe for people who are too hyper. JR came from Boston, rugby player, five head traumas, medication and it doesn't work or two doesn't work or get shifted around because they stop working,
2:42:10 That's a woman you definitely don't want to fuck. them to have this issue with their body? And his last trauma, beginning of last year, left him depressed. He was in a coma, You don't want to go do that test that says, and they did his autopsy, I do, I have a list. want to tell someone, look, keep playing football. Likelihood is you'll retire and you'll develop
2:45:13 This. So that's the thing about when someone has a testosterone use exemption, they don't have to specify the cause of testosterone being low. Yeah, put the onions in it. you know, five documented loss of consciousness uh he's beaten over the head that Marvin Eastman had been in training camp which might be a backdoor type of self-analysis, are these cognitive testing programs. There's
2:48:17 Totally out. And I think it was because they said, see, it like grazes him. Mm-hmm. You think you're so smart. Yeah, I did taekwondo, secretary black belt on the cover of a martial arts magazine. I was waiting for you to answer. Oh, you put a link up for people that are listening to this podcast. What happens when you click it? Oh, I see, I see, I see.
2:50:41 Most people tend to listen to this while they're doing other things, So TBI Medical. To end, I'll say that we have a 32-year post-traumatic brain injury gal, 32 years. She's swimming again. years that there were so many people with traumatic deficiency. The brain is very delicate, Thank you very much. And go to Hover, hover.com. So I automatically think you're fucked up on drugs.
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