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0:00 Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out! sportsman's i've done some stuff with steve and then uh solo hunters is on outdoor it's on outdoor and he had his hand up to block the sun And it's one of the things that I really did And I was trying to show this to my wife the other day. I'm like, this fucking show is too good to just be tucked away on a hunting channel.

2:00 She thinks I'm fucking crazy. I can't watch this. You can find these really good shows on there as well that are full of adventure and just being out there being a man. Very creative, very, like, fantastic team that makes that show. I think I can't watch hunting TV. I was, like, born into it, and I'm more obsessed now than I was when I first got into it.

4:12 And I was a kid, when I was in first grade, man, I just sit there, pow, pow, pow, pow, pow, all day long. Just shooting and stalking things and just nuts. Exactly. It shows you what kind of an effect that fucking town has on you. Yeah. and we're all looking at each other like, we may film someone die here today. That was like, but then the product of that,

5:42 It was just the drama of the I mean, you know, like, before, I mean, we kind of had to think about this, you know. is real when we did that thing in montana when we went mule deer hunting, there was no bullshit. And they're like, oh, shit, a bear's here. that's going to get a hold of it and try to fake things. I mean, just like so obvious that this thing came out of a cooler

7:48 When we were on that trip, you were goofing on it. Dude, it crushed our show. Especially now that the guy done came out and stood up for heterosexuals. I mean, I think it's A&E, right? They were normal guys. I mean, it was like, you know, Phil Roberts would be out there in his duck blind, I wanted to do. Yes. I don't know either, but who cares? one from this upcoming season where he gets charged by the moose did you see that

10:58 understand that it's not, I mean, there's so much explicit sort of conversation about You guys work hard. It's like the roughest place on the planet. we were going through the Badlands and it's more calories than anybody His ethic and his way is why the show is what it is and why I learned. I didn't know a thing about making TV, about shooting. That's interesting.

13:36 Just from swimming? like every muscle. You're trying to Luckily. Because I was thinking Not everybody hunts. Oh, yeah. your body understands that movement and can do it over and over again, It's ridiculous. it's ridiculous is it it's off the charts yeah it's it's several times 20 maybe if you it spends Think about it. The bigger your hands are, the harder you can punch.

17:14 It's a little slower because the bones are heavier. Yeah. You get gassed. Yeah, so like an average guy is about 45. I mean, I'm hiking up monster mountains. and uh just doing it every day day in day out It's like there's no better type of endurance training. that's not that that's not the miles that's just straight elevation gain that's you know i mean

20:34 Did you see that the excellent category The dudes that administered, I mean, this was like people might come in and be like, And he kind of like, he's like, oh, you're a this is nuts you know and he kind of like he's I don't think anyone likes to run. because the thing that I've learned have to, I would have to change my, cause I went to, um, my buddy, Joe Dibble, he does like physical

22:38 The only way to really get big is you've got to start doing sets of three, three reps max. and by the way, And if you're eating like, you know, you're drinking like whey protein and all that you're just gonna fart man all the time my friend tate when tate was uh when he was Just opened the gates of hell. You'd have to be doing like 315 pound squats and things like that

24:58 If you ever wanted to learn a martial art. Oh, yeah. So I think that's going to be my in if I ever want to do it. My nephew was a wrestler. Before I ever became a comedian, that's what I used to do. He was a good guy. There was always this weirdness of this one guy who was the leader that everyone was terrified of and thought he was this great master that could kill anyone on the planet.

26:50 And he was in his deep 30s? it's to me the best martial art because you can go full blast and you don't have to worry about I mean, by the time it was over is my dad and me and probably the only guys he even Like, they'll tell you a story and then repeat it just a minute later You get hit in the head too many times. So that's the thing is my body puts on muscle

28:45 Oh, dude. Halibut ceviche, you know? You just use up everything and no matter It's the most tender out of a fresh kill is the heart. You're just eating rotten meat. metallic, fresh meat. Can you put that closer to your face? I have a ranch that I buy from that's near me that's 100% grass-fed. It's not supposed to look like natural yeah it's supposed to but the grossest thing is when you go to the butcher and you see the dry

31:14 it feels like food in your body human mutated meat which would be like corn fed marbled beef yeah i uh like i just always eat And I realized I haven't cooked a beef steak in probably ever. are really cute they're like this is deer and i'm like it's deer and they're like it's yummy Our vegans and raw food people on the other end of the spectrum, I feel great when I eat a lot of really fresh, leafy vegetables.

33:46 these crops and god forbid if you're using fucking pesticides and what what damage you're doing to know, these animals don't live forever, they're not bulletproof, and they're made out of food. Have you calculated how much you need? You've got to get another freezer. Just fantastic. And it would all dry out. And then Like beef jerky and eggs. Yeah, well it's not though. It's like a pulled beef. Yeah, it's once they reconstitute it go, what's good? And the guy's like, machaca and eggs. I'm like, all right, man. Like beef jerky and eggs.

35:56 They stew it. buffalo in a couple of days when everything starts rotting. That was a great episode. You guys ate a coyote. You're like, dude, I just want to eat a coyote one day. Oh, yeah? I'm like, whoa, that's kind of creepy. girls. I feed them. So we let the chickens out. So, I mean, this crazy rooster, and we could not keep him away from the chickens i mean he's raping my ladies and i want my goal was to eat unfertilized chicken eggs yeah

38:50 We have our lawn is like this large grassy area, and there's an area where the chicken coop is. Fucking not because of me, because something was chasing them. Have you ever seen a lion or lion sign? It was a Pomeranian-American Eskimo mix. Here we go. And I'm like, it wasn't a mountain lion. attached to it you know and just sitting there um underneath where we had all the meat hanging

41:18 Well, it snowed that night. looking around so they've been around a while it was about 70 pounds something I still don't have a confirmed sighting, and it pisses me off every time. Apparently it was Georgia, the original photo. Yeah, I've never seen a dead lion anywhere. Yeah, frozen solid. and see if you can find Bigfoot. get a little bit liquored up

44:01 on the radios and stuff. think there's actually Bigfoots. I got approached at this one show by this dude that was a professional squash, And then the other thing is what's, I don't know what's crazier if he believes himself I don't know what she really saw. nobody's matched up you know what i mean like your mind tells you what you want to think yeah you

46:46 oh yeah, I saw a Bigfoot. And then you tell yourself what it was. the hotbed for sightings? Rinella. What it. Rinella. but he didn't see anything. Like he heard something that was clearly, it seemed like bipedal, Interesting. If it ended up being that he wasn't legit, No, this water's good. it's so dense up there and there's so much area where people just don't get to

49:11 something and had this definitive sighting and the lack of trail camera pictures yeah zero trail Wow. They're everywhere, man. on this. They apparently In the big park up there. Well, that's good. Yeah, it is. and I was like, this is some apocalyptic shit. They're all good until they get hungry Coyote fishing. This is a new show that, There is, Nature itself was our teacher, and those who hunted us became our guides.

53:34 and how things have evolved. endurance, where one wolf will be on an opposite ridge and they'll kind of howl back and So when the wolf's hunting, Let's just keep hitting them back and forth like this, can't we? That's a secret. I get excited about it. It's almost sort of a persistence hunting. i mean i've spent accumulation of just if you just counted the straight days it'd be like something

57:42 So they would be like, their tongues are hanging out, they're tired. Fucking elk run fast. They're tired fast. I mean, grass is the hardest thing to digest on the planet, you know? they outsmart their prey um and a lot of it's the pack mentality hunting is a pack pushing them like You know, this is a very novel approach. It's like if I'm going to do this, man, I've got to learn something and try to adapt it.

1:00:30 like yeah we're gonna run an elk down and kill it run it down yeah bullshit you know right now how so Remy had an extraordinarily which is just on his snowmobile It's crazy. Yeah. It's like, you know, here's Dan, and Dom is another guy that was running the camera. you're gonna want to do badass shit you're gonna want to keep up with them when you're gonna be

1:02:40 You're not used to rising to the occasion when you're confronted with an equal adversary No, no. Everybody wants that alleviation of pressure. There will be no rest. I'm going to keep doing there's no retiring You're going to die. Fuck it. sitting around your porch, Yeah, if I had, like, terminal cancer, boom, heroin's the first shit I'd try. Can it even go a mile?

1:05:06 Look at the fucking revs in this thing. who doesn't have anything to do with hunting Like I tell people I've never worked a day in my life. And then, uh, the other part is, I mean, a lot of people now more than ever, I think, uh, this you know, they wanted to hear about real adventure. And it's like, I mean, I tell people Yeah, I mean, from a very early age,

1:07:35 You became a fucking mutant. Oh, my God. It was like, yeah, it was over a mile away was the clouds, and my dad both got struck my dad was paralyzed for almost a month and then just like nerves grew I've got, like, on both sides of the family, just super athletes. And when the movie Saving Private Ryan came out, hear anything you're like everything's confusing i mean you're like watching the rain fall in slow

1:10:15 I had a twitch until I was about 17, you know. for the next 12 years of my life. He's like, And it never comes back? It's like a sneeze. Yeah. And so we're building this outdoor shower bathroom thing because we do this big Fourth of July party every year, right? And it's that kind of water where you put your hand in it, and it's ice cold. And she just locks eyes with me and she says, help me, help me.

1:13:22 And, um, she hits the current and I just start running. shore now. And I yelled to this guy who's standing there. I say, grab her. Cause you just popped up. and I start floating down the river with her, holding her up. you know, so I do all this stuff and, uh, I, um, check to make sure she's breathing or whatever. I tell the other guy, go grab some blankets and stuff

1:16:25 screwed, you know, what's the mean that I like, I have no special skillset that they don't have And then, you know know you're going through floating down the river. They weren't wearing any life vests and they were holding hands floating down the river And they said that it was like this weird response. Holy shit. Yeah yeah that's crazy yeah that is uh that's what you risk when you go rafting right yeah it's these people exciting

1:19:27 you know, or what, you know, just. Dude, that water was not killing me. But most of it was waist height. I'm not comfortable When have you been charged by bears? Another one? last year, I was in Mexico with my brother I was, like, on a dive. We were around a bunch of armed people on the ground when shit really goes down. And I remember coming out of that experience, just kind of like

1:22:51 And it becomes you're just a pure organism trying to exist and stay existing. Are you addicted to it? you know, really fucking dig that's not your world, and it's like, what did we just do? is so not what we're in every day here that you come away from I think you brought to our show, I think you brought to the public, No cell phones. Maybe. Yeah, I did that for about five years out of college,

1:26:40 in the shoulder seasons we would hike. And just uh just the most badass way to spend my They always left with something valuable. you know like right come out in the woods and learn how to do shit be And like, just to be away from cars, You know, you don't really get it then it's sort of a, A hundred percent. We need to do that. people that was what it was all about werner herzog's documentary it's about these guys there

1:31:00 There is an ease with which they go through their day, Because it's different, man. It's just like What's going to happen with my 401k? I mean, we just we are like clockwork. Jesus Christ. I was on the Vegas strip between the palms. I think people are running away from a lot of the issues that they have in their life. you can stop it and it's also you know it's so much of who you are and it's why so many people

1:34:12 or whatever it was. people get good jobs. Oh, yeah. the day is like, man, good thing I made it out of that river. You know, I'm going to really do and you're not certain of it, it's like I'm going And he goes, more action. But he would talk very similarly about it, When you get out of that and you're okay, ooh, the fucking lemonade tastes sweeter. Parked it and we do this hike and we're sitting there like looking for elk

1:38:03 The guy that's with me is like, you have a bear tag, right? This bear comes charging in I throw the gun up and as soon as I throw the gun up the bear wheels around goes off so much that it tore the key out of the four-wheeler and so we couldn't find the four-wheeler Just mangled the inside of the car. There's latrines in all the campsites. Natural shit and water. The bears would eat

1:40:37 Literally. It's fantastic. It's dark. Absolutely. Yeah, it looked like it. go after some bighighorn sheep like swooping That is so goddamn gangster. That's kind of like a tool. and then they go down when the lights change and pick them up so the cars break the nuts. Oh, my God. I mean, it was unbelievable. And they use this stick to get a second stick

1:43:43 They try to get a third stick And if she can't figure that out, then she'll go and try a fourth and a fifth stick. I had a steak that was frozen, and I was trying to thaw it out. Like you're spying on me. Like look at this dopey bitch. And they're like, what the fuck happened to the fish? That is real. Well, there's definitely a video of octopuses climbing out.

1:45:38 There was another video that they took from an aquarium, from a large aquarium. Look, here's a shark like, I'm the baddest motherfucker in this tank. What are you bitches going to do about that? So that octopus just turns him upside down, puts him in a submission hold. Oh, okay, you're going to be figuring out cars and guns and all that. I'm like, what?

1:47:58 so i'm petting this live bear right and just like i'm just like hey bear and just like talking to walks in a circle hits its head on a tree again 100 blind wow yeah so we're like and these these two other guys that it was one where um no i didn't see that one steve went bear hunting and had a lock on a bear and No, that's not it. my skills instead of against any deer

1:51:17 whatever. And for me, I love those deer. Like I don't want to see those deer disappear. It's just something like, something changes how you feel about the animals, how you feel about the land, and how you feel about your interaction out there. them they just became objects of wilderness fascination you know they weren't like it wasn't Like, right away.

1:53:18 Like this is out here too, huh? It was a brown bear, and they said it was good. I mean, I've hunted bears. like it and hunt them and what's the difference between going after a predator and going after in the, We never killed a lion. But yet it was Hunt it, chop it up, and cook it. So that's the deer nut. It was one of the trailers for when Joe and Brian came out to Montana first.

1:56:54 there he goes of dumbass hunts mule deer in Bighorn country? Wow, what a cool looking animal. Just straight up. It looks so nice out right there. Plucking cactus out of my legs in front of the fire. My leg out, and I mean he must have pulled, no BS, at least 50 of those things out of me. When your face is level to your friend's ass, and you're Oh, gosh.

2:00:04 No. blow your heart so you know i mean just kind of keep it like it's in your hand it's normally a and the venom out. Yeah. This is the craziest story. So he gets hammered You'd be like, there's no way any of this. He just kept it floor the whole time. Nevada is like a bike, all over in domino fashion tells a guy walk walking and say, hey, somebody kicked your bikes over out there.

2:04:04 You know? one of those things i think like i graduated high school and i knew what i always i knew what i How far in advance are you booked for guide stuff? Yeah, like this year's full. Yeah. so that's that's actually a pretty fucking stable business um well yes and no because you got like other thing, you know? So it's like, there's no regulation. Yeah. You guys killed a Canadian

2:07:35 zealand i don't know we should tell that story i think we did i think steve told that story what And apparently he comes back, like, we're like, I was like, you didn't run the truck out of diesel, did you? Yeah. We had two river crossings where the truck is tied to the truck in front, oops I am the biggest stickler on the planet Now, you guys in the New Zealand one, you hunted tar.

2:10:25 It's just absorbent. You're like, it's freezing out, but water gets inside and it keeps you warm. Tar was good. ice and you can't stop yourself and you'll just go off a 3 000 foot cliff yeah they're looking at Yeah, because you don't want them to go off the cliff. And some of this I don't like couldn't really cut because when you don't have a camera guy, it's like freaking impossible to cover everything, you know.

2:13:11 Yeah. So like when I do severe river crossings the level fills up so then like the it So the snorkel's up like right at the top of the left window. to do is just an adventure every time. So then I had to film myself scaling down, climbing, It's crazy. They're cool. Yeah, they have available, so you could And that's one of the weird situations where they weren't sure if it was a good place to

2:15:54 solohunterstv.com, With Soul Hunters, it's so unusual to see a guy wandering through, whether it's you or what's the other guy's name? And I was just like, God damn, that thing is 1,200 pounds. Like, if you're by yourself, you want them in the water. Oh, maybe a little more than that, I would say. I'm like, god damn, is it a fucking moose? Yeah, it's exhausting. And it's two of us. It's two of us dragging this little deer. I'm like, God damn, a fucking moose?

2:17:40 that I thought was really unusual I'm a creative guy. production so he edits it he does everything yeah so it's a two-man show yeah exactly sometimes a Yeah, that'll be SHOT show this week. I think that's it. I'm not even interested in money. So I know what exciting shit is. I don't know if it's a show, I was breathing. There was no weirdness. It's a new world, man.

2:21:32 Fuck yeah, it's exciting. and that's why like this this this new Apex Predator show, and you can even throw some in because some of these we haven't even, like, They're like... The spin of the earth. Nature is a motherfucker, but how did we get there you know so this show like this new show the apex predator show is not and submerge ourself underwater.

2:24:26 Say goodbye to your fingers, son. I have seen it. That's the point, though. idea of sneaking up on a pig in the water they're fucking terrible they smell everything too right Yeah, you can eat the whole thing. makes some chili con carne in this national festival Wow, that's a weird thing. It's specialized. I mean, it's weird i mean mean it's just one of those things that they aren't that aggressive even when they're like

2:28:16 They really do. Look at that thing. Big 150-pounder. Yeah, it's an interesting thing when you have encroaching cities It gets weird with cats. Yeah, one of them got shot in Santa Monica a couple of years ago. the other thing too is what's it I mean it has to be eating cat I don't know they probably smell so fucking bad the cat's like I'm surprised, like, you know, people sleeping out at night. You know, if there's a cat, I don't know.

2:30:39 Yeah, I don't know. Because sometimes they'll look at you crawling and it's not a threat. That's our predator. every bear, they see us. one of the weird ones that like they might have been a you know just a memory And when we came up to it, like, a bear had claimed it, and so it was like, and it took us a while to find it. And when we came up to it, like a bear had claimed it.

2:33:25 that's interesting generally speaking and this bear this fall actually like a personal experience. Um, I mean, there was one hunt and I mean, you know, I, I like it's like spit it'd just be like spitting like no just water nothing wow absolutely nothing and know, see if I can see it, or I mean, smell it. And then, and then like starve myself for three

2:35:58 you're actually like doing more exploratory sniffing, great. But if you fucking twice a day That's one of the things I think that people enjoy about fasting that they don't really Yeah, that's a big one. That's the weird thing Like I'll smell things that I wouldn't smell when I'm full. better when they're hungry i know people can hunt wolves now does anybody eat wolf apparently

2:37:56 Yeah, exactly. But so are mountain lions. Is it too tough, too muscular? Yeah, it's the most tender. But if you think about the way those animals are, they're like put in these lots where they don't move. I have to try it. It's amazing. People always ask me, like, assholes yeah slim gyms are fucking all that mystery weird shit we do we package things into

2:40:15 It's an old practice, though. When you make venison sausage, do you add pork fat to it? it with grass-fed butter and garlic salt yeah just cook it leave it fairly rare and it's be responsible for all my food all my vegetables and all and all meat game meat have you noticed and not even agriculture where you're connected to the agriculture, There's a disconnect that goes quite deep that, you know, we're looking at it. People are looking at it. I think it's being recognized, but it's pretty fucking weird. There's a disconnect that goes quite deep that, you know, we're looking at it.

2:42:48 there's just something to be said for having that kind of diet. But, yeah, the amount of protein per gram is like double in uh in game So that's why, like, and if you look at it, well, if it's not fat mixed in there, what is it? Um, yeah, I mean, of course you worry about that, you know, but you think about it and maybe I think that there'll be a lot of resurgence of certain things when we kind of,

2:45:30 planet. Nobody liked beef. And it wasn't until the rail cars where they could ship them up and then You're like, well, to do it the way I do it, like as a true predator out in the mountains hunting and stalking. There are. Those factors, the lack of success on occasional hunts make the successful hunts feel even better. Awesome. Yeah. and we're also going to go hunting.

2:47:55 so this week he won't be on. Thanks for everybody that came out to Phoenix this weekend. Hold on a second. and do it by January 17th I enjoy it. One of them will be in the A, actually noon, with Dom Irera. Mwah. Mwah.