Joe Rogan Experience #447 — Cara Santa Maria Transcript

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0:01 Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out! I use it a lot. Woo Peddle much? He's not like cult leader seriously. Quantum consciousness is ruined. helping people. Maybe he is helping some people, but he's also peddling a lot of woo. And it's really hard for like an everyday person who goes, OK, well, I've heard that before. Yeah, we're all God in drag. interviews on like opie and anthony and all these different places but one of them was like his son

4:22 there seems to be this, like, changing of the guard something like that, or this need to be your own person. I was traveling. I think it was you've got to be really careful because Dawkins, I think his take, character. It's about likability. And I think it's easy for people who aren't already kind of And he's tired of it. And I think he's also a dick because he's a normal guy with a lot of knowledge that doesn't have a lot of release in his life.

6:56 who don't have the education that you have But when you kind of go through the motions and you just come to these logical conclusions because of all of the different life choices you've made, but then you interact with people who a career kind of being good at debating, who knows exactly the way to twist your words and to make it That's what he seemed like.

8:44 It works for me. I would never like i would never debate a creationist You know, like, because these people are skilled just in the art of conversation. It's not to try and convince him not to believe in God. No, not at all. there was a, but the way the guy handled it was very sweet and he was smiling pushed yeah I think the same thing can be done skillfully with these

12:10 There's that. century and science has unequivocally disproven what it is that you believe. You know, it's one don't know what existed before the Big Bang, therefore God, done, mic drop, you know, every just because we don't have that doesn't mean that there aren't other if you've ever watched him in, So I think that maybe that's why Bill Nye was willing to do it.

14:32 Yeah, he's with Steve. I think what he's doing is he knows that there's a bunch of fucking scared old ladies with Bibles in their hand that listen to his show, and he's on their side. Which is even better than being a Mormon. Really? Mormon in Texas. When you were 14, what was it that got you to? And so I was studying and I was trying to figure out like, you know, I've been taught this my whole life, but it just doesn't make sense.

16:22 I mean, when you're in high school and you're Mormon, you go to church for three hours every Sunday, you go to youth group every Wednesday gay, who's like, you know, scared to come out in their community but um i would assume that there's or something like that. But we also went to his house on Sundays to go to church together because my mom We didn't have a relationship, but it improved over time.

18:50 there probably is something there it especially in terms of especially in terms of environment And we are literally night and day. But if you took two people who were monozygotic twins, who were able to chase that. It totally makes sense. I mean, there's so many different variables. They're going to put their kid in a great school and they're going to, oh, he's so gifted. I want

21:36 Exactly. and then you're going to school, you can't focus, you can't pay attention, intense genetic difficulty, you end up with Down syndrome, for example. There's only so much you can do. You can do a lot environmentally to improve your life and improve your abilities, You can have a very specific line of animals, Which is why animal research is so important to answer a lot of fundamental questions

24:27 not sure how much truth there is to it, but there's all these like tales about like B.F. That would be really intense. There's a story about a woman who owned a comedy club and had a son who was a comedian. He wasn't funny. but there was this recent study that uh where all these different comedians i guess i think it was So all my jokes are about my weight.

27:18 little bit with psychotic personality traits. We all deal a little bit with depression, with anxiety, I've actually never been to England. Yeah, they're great. great writers. Like, how do they find these people? I mean, we could just sit here and just count, You know, they're packing theaters. then I'll do the ice house like the little room which is 80 seats but that

30:18 so then you can really tell what sticks without other people's input yeah If you can listen to it and it's really interesting and it becomes like something that's enriching to you and inspiring to the sense of like just because you and i are having a conversation right now doesn't mean that And that's funny. entertained, that it feels like you're talking to me, you know, not the person next to me, but me,

33:28 You know, I mean, And I think that there's an art in that. Massively now. I'm still, you know, I'm 30 years old. I'm on my course, my career course, I've been successful. sand. if I do go to a meeting, you know, science-based programming or political-based programs. So it's all nonfiction. I don't think it's moving there. Like you watch that movie and they're literally watching a show called Ouch My Balls.

36:48 what we're watching now I have not seen it it was an anthology It's super dark. each episode is different but it's like so believable and so sad that this could potentially what happens when we go into the future where nobody even cares about one another anymore and As far as, that was a long, interesting rant. And then you have those advertisers to consider because that's going to intersect into your program.

40:05 But then you have something like HBO that produces something like Game of Thrones, Because things like podcasts are a perfect example of why that's not the case. and it's, like, depressing to see the difference get in there and fuck everything up like they do on most networks. And yes, there's a small I think the first season was just absolutely amazing and brilliant

42:29 And the best you can do is go on a blog somewhere and bitch about it. You've got to understand how to integrate those two things. You've got to understand that most people The rest of the time, if I am watching TV at all, I'm on my phone. So like let's say that, you know, like my show on Pivot TV. And because of the live component, have a capability for it now and so i think watching tv and knowing that tv is going to reflect

45:12 directly, and we can pop it on the air. So just even baby steps like that, I think are really They do that on sports shows. Yeah. I think that the problem with scripted television right now is, like you said, if you are beholden to the advertisers, you're basically beholden to fear. doesn't matter to them they have a set number of subscriptions they'd love it if subscriptions went

48:00 editorial perspective that we think would be beneficial, they say, what do you want to see? It's so dangerous. They broke in on CNN and MSNBC when Bieber got arrested. Well, that's Florida. to you about Syria or while I'm talking about tensions that are rising in Sochi around the, whatever the fuck, you know, talking about the state of the, like, can you imagine?

50:17 And they were warned about this dystopian future. the time, people voting against their own interests because not because they fundamentally of us to live our lives by. We shouldn't all be like, you know, hoping and praying that one day And it's something that I think that has gotten worse in recent years. Because I think what happens is that when most people who are wealthy were born wealthy.

53:46 I mean, if you look at the data, if you look at evidence, it's very difficult to move up in social class in any sort of real meaningful way. poor and those kids to be poor. If you're born rich, you're more likely to be able to maintain social policies like that, that asshole in Florida who is trying to pass a law requiring people who if I'm rich, it must be because I'm better in some way is a really dangerous idea. And that's where,

57:30 Like, I would be blown away if somebody could show me a high statistic of individuals who actually started off in an impoverished position and became wealthy. Now, there are a fair amount of people who really have pulled themselves up from their bootstraps and gotten an education. And most of the time, the reason that that's happened is because they've made use of public assistance that's been available.

58:13 two parents at home who were really helping them. You know, mom was there and could make it easier forget that because I'm in a comfortable position now, but I didn't start impoverished. And I think programs. Like it's low. You have to make very little money. There's a lot of issues. I mean, and you find out about the fucking high fructose corn syrup

1:00:52 Look what's really going on. of authoritarian environment and it's probably only going to account for something like three And that's something that I think we have to understand about the tax structure, too. terms, but I want to know what you think about it. So they looked at the average homeless person apartment is theirs and they can live there. It's provided by the government. It's helping them

1:04:05 And they allowed these people that were clearly ill to just fend for themselves. the fact that healthcare is a for-profit system in this country, I think is so amoral. It's such That's why we need fucking, you know, like meat regulation. lots of problems with this law, even though And you might be able to It's not? C, preventative, preventative, oh.

1:07:08 I hurt my neck doing jujitsu that wanted to cut me. where they take your blood and they heat it and spin it in a centrifuge and take out some aspects of the blood Yeah. costs 10 times as much as a surgery in this town in Vermont only because of their medical regulations there. salaries that are making all of this so expensive. It's the fucking profit motive at the hospitals

1:09:55 and they ruined the you know the the wall between the vagina and the anus somehow or another during I can't, I guess, How can anyone hear it That's so sad. there's always going to be a small percentage for the rights of the people. basis for that. But I think beyond that, if you compare, for example, our society to many societies you know, grandma lives with multiple kids and then all the, you know, daughters and sons of them live together and they help raise each other. And it's a very different culture.

1:14:07 they're not going to be so driven to succeed. and that has a lot of social programs that are available. that's available to everybody. but they're still fiscal conservatives. And that's why I would say that they'd be much more and help them. going to grow up to be human beings. That you're going to have to And these children are going to become impossible to deal with hand,

1:16:43 You know what I mean? I think they're, without a doubt, they're in a shitty road. 85 people in the world have as much wealth as the next 350 million it's a problem when you Like you look at Bill and Melinda Gates who are incredibly wealthy and they've given more. But Steve Jobs is kind of a cunt. Like, I don't care if he has good products. I'm saying, fuck you slowly.

1:19:34 and I agree with you. do. That's unfair. So having the kind of tax code so that rich people can find so many loopholes And so, yes, we have so much corporate welfare in this country. which means you only pay taxes on $20,000 a year at an individual tax rate, the rich richer. Here's a bit of a problem with that type of thinking. I don't agree that it's

1:22:36 It's very different to compare those things. I don't think that that's the entire problem. contributed to these social programs voluntarily. Well, I think it would be even better if we had good for the economy. conversations about any of these real heavy kind of social or governmental issues is that I think and it's what keeps it so incredibly broken. If it didn't cost money to run for elected office,

1:26:25 There is absolutely nothing wrong with doing something brilliant good for fucking you. Like if you look at these kind of this moral perspective that that Americans had early is we had an agricultural society, that you've got you know the fucking lowell factory girls and you've got child labor we have a we have Like how does one step in in 2014 and look at the 85 people that have so much money

1:29:08 Let's make sure that nobody was taken advantage of heavily. who defended frackings, you know, back in Texas, like a healthy nine-year-old girl, took this cough medicine, had a stroke. And I really don't know And there's like no way you're going to be able to work the same way you could have before. We're going to keep our product on the market because we still

1:31:50 What is the cure? Well, it's fucking nuanced and it's not always that straightforward. And it's And you can give 100 people that same medication, have no issues whatsoever, and one person dies. Peter Schiff's argument, he was saying, we don't need regulation. You know what I mean? It was a chemical spill, but it was from like an oil company. drinking it, but it still was not nearly as detoxified as it needed to be so now people are having all sorts of

1:34:25 What I found fascinating was, I guarantee you the majority of them are not rich. Like that's not the direction we should be. Watch who killed the electric car. These big energy companies are some of the biggest lobbies in this country. And that number is lower than it used to be because we have education and because we had I completely agree. But people don't want to hear those arguments.

1:38:17 Fukushima, are you worried about that? Are you worried about the ocean? Are you worried about like it, but I also have always had concerns for the baby, I'm not a big fan at all. You're with me? Whether or not it's dangerous for me is kind of a moot point. knowing that if the power goes out, we're doomed? a show for the Weather Channel and you should think about building these dangerous things, you should think about the safest places to do it.

1:41:45 today yeah we need to do this more often and you know the rest of the day. If I'm going to start a podcast, I'm going to have guests though. Joe says I'm awesome at talking. Yeah. There's nothing. do you know the last time I came on your podcast let's see how many we can do So you can pick up basically each day's episode the following day until the new episode airs.

1:44:23 Nerdys from HuffPost. Those are great. Squarespace. from Sundance to travel to whatever, And I'll do your show as well, whatever you need. 100%. Thanks also to onnit.com. But something good.