Joe Rogan Experience #450 — Cameron Hanes Transcript

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0:00 All day, Joe Rogan podcast, my night, all day. You're famous to me. You're famous. I told a friend of mine who's a hunting fan. You and one other guy. So people know who you are, man. Okay. You have become at least, I watched a lot of videos on YouTube or online, whether it's, whether videos about anything that I find interesting. And I saw this video, this guy carrying rocks in his backpack, going up hills,

2:19 Like, I thought I was in really good shape. But I never heard of anybody doing that before until I saw you. Like, that's where it gets really crazy, because, like, what's the biggest elk you've ever shot? But I had a few guys with me, so, you know, made it a little easier. bring it back to your truck and back to your freezer. That's, that's a powerful experience.

5:00 was a kid and I was, uh, um, competing in martial arts tournaments, I read the book of five rings. And i've run 100 mile ultra marathons you know know, that type of thing. Basically, I just want to, I want to simulate I don't know. mountain. Cause everybody knows I run this mountain. So they came in for the Cabela's seminar. then we tried to take pictures trying to I couldn't even lift that thing over my head because a rock is just weird to lift.

7:24 It is. to wherever you want to weigh it so somebody did move it like 20 yards and i did notice that but How far are you carrying it? Is there any danger of doing that? That's like some serious weight that you're carrying on your back like that. work that you have to do to go up a hill with 130 pound rock on your back like that like Yeah, it is. um a lot of people hunted but to kill a bull with a bow is like special. And so I got attention for that. I was like,

10:50 And if I could kill a bull back there, man, that would be the ultimate. reached my limit and I'm trying to, to try to become what I always say is the ultimate predator. work and all that investment of emotion and everything else. And so that's, yeah, it is, I mean, that's got to ramp it up another notch. they're, I mean, they don't commit suicide. They are, you know, they're used to lions. They're

13:52 quicker, even than maybe a rifle would kill them. And that's, uh, you know, that's pretty amazing. So you're sort of like adding to like this whole reason why you're exercising and all this fitness and getting, you know, really strong and in really great shape. But, you know, I want to shoot 90. And so it's just going to be that much more lethal in my mind. And then if I'm blowing through ribs

16:11 Have you ever had that happen where you're really exhausted to work to get to where the elk is, No. a 90 pound bow that would be hard yeah that would be because you're not warmed up you're not you georgia from people it just you know and what i found is it like you talked about earlier it kind I would love to hear those. Okay. Yes, I don't know. Not eating yes i don't know not eating sugar not drinking

19:36 It's not something you want to gear your life around. He's not trying to get his black belt. that they realize that you do it better than them. one crab tries to get out of the bucket The number one problem with this world thing has the potential to empower them. Right. Now, I don't know if, I mean, it could be what's of it, whatever it is, you could find just something in someone that you don't even like.

23:07 And so that's, I mean, 99% of what I get is positive, but it seems like you remember the 1%. Like when a snake bites you, if a snake bites you for the first time, I mean, you're fucked. Built up tolerance. and I'm objective, then I can find folly in their weakness. But you're an inspirational dude for I think people like you are really important. feel the same way.

25:29 These hunts can be expensive. actually like motivates you to, to ramp it up another notch, to keep it going even further. power company back home so i've done that for 18 years so you do that 40 hours a week yeah and so and you get your body used to exerting these big explosive bursts of energy Like, what's going on here? And I think our bodies are probably designed

28:06 you're missing out on a lot of what it is to be a person, a lot of what it is to be And I don't even mean it in like a macho, like, look how cool I am way. you're eating it, but it's the, it's a connection. It's the, it's everything else that's, that it's all about. the commentator for the ufc i'm lucky for me i'm the only one or you know there's a couple other

30:49 Yeah. You know? You get your license just like everybody else. You get your license just It was either 99 or 2000. i killed a buck also and i wrote this article about it and the photos And the bottom line is, yes, it's available to everybody, but it's very tough. they see the animals and they're like man that is awesome i want to do that too unless it's in you

33:55 There's so much variety. So I was just like, so my buddy, um, Roy, And so it is, that's where I started doing the solo wilderness hunts. And, um, um, you know, They worry about getting injured, not being able to get out. trip and then stayed one night, then came out and remember the year, but I killed a six by six bull elk by myself. And it was my best bull. And I got

37:32 And that's, I just remembered, that's the difference between living back there where it's just about, am I going to find a place to sleep tonight? I'm just like, what? But it's not your life. princess di died that would be fucked that'd be crazy maybe somehow some way i killed her maybe I don't think you're supposed to say she was hot. I don't think she could just die i don't think she could get down i thought i thought she was partying when she she died in a car wreck right well she was running away from

40:11 But that's just me. I'm like I don't give a fuck I literally don't give zero I give zero fucks yeah Man, I thought about that shit all day. spills the beans. Don't trust heroin It ends with him. arkansas he would get alone with them but just whip it out there's him and hurley for sure he Because if I have to go to work tomorrow, not much has changed in my life.

42:57 mess that's been created before the people that got into power, in power before before they got into positions of of of having Boom. I think that's probably true. clip i've seen of him playing basketball he looks like he sucks at that too. Supposedly he plays pool and hunting or martial arts or anything shit that i probably can't do right now and when you see that like makes you like i want to be able

46:09 But it makes it, it makes, it gives you thrills. It gives you excitement. It gives you like these, I feel like probably inside all of us, we all have the potential for greatness in one way or another. it's just whatever, not in shape. And I'm like, why but you're a regular guy who puts it out there. And when you put it out there, that's what creates

48:34 And they see you tired. you hit it and you just just get up you know i had an ex-girlfriend um back when i was fighting I'd hit it, and I'd just fucking jump out of bed. I was like 15 until I was 22. I was completely crazy. You fucking drive me crazy. i was 19 i was a fucking maniac yeah but you know that that's probably better than hitting that I'm like, fuck yeah, he's doing it.

51:37 it's real simple actually i got it on my shirt lift run shoot i lift, shoot every day. Well, what about, okay, so every day? That's interesting to me. Really? be the guy who does too much. Cause how do you do too much? Right, right, right. Too much for, he's getting some exercise in it, but he would do like, what do we call an active recovery day? right after the McDonald

54:23 conditions to be fighting, You see that limp. He wanted to get on there. Jesus, he doesn't get tired. Is that you carrying this? Not just doing that and carrying the rock, but is there any other, like, do you do like those Roman chair exercises or something to strengthen your lower back? I'll try to mix it up. I probably am a little unbalanced, but you wouldn't be able to tell, but just from 27 years of doing it or whatever it's been.

58:11 And one of the things that they found is that Like if I'm playing my daughter or if I'm playing someone who sucks, I'll shoot pool left-handed. Yeah. I don't know if I could shoot a bow. I mean. Yeah, I don't think that'd be a problem. talking. Like the sound of told me about them. Yeah. Yeah, maybe. so we shot a couple of targets with it, but this bow is sick.

1:01:21 I'm going to have to ramp it up. You know? It's a long stalk, a long patient stalk on this buffalo. Now he puts his head down. I'm not sure what we're filming here, but get to 46 yards and the crazy thing about this is and it clips a tree yeah so watch watch that tree the the curved one so i want his leg to go forward and also you barely barely barely caught that but if i would have had less poundage that could have

1:04:33 that's a lot quicker than they're ever going to die in natural habitat on their own well no doubt And they're actually seeing that right now in parts of this country with wolves. And, you know, like in Australia, there's no predators. And so there's so many of them where there once was water and there's fish and all sorts of things. adam green tree he killed uh it's not a dingo but it's uh sort of like a dingo but it's not a pure

1:07:10 Yeah, and the non-native species thing is a fascinating thing to me Oh, and they're rooting around, tearing up the ground. and they're shooting them out of the sky. The non-native species thing is very fascinating to me. about like government programs. Well, you know, like I, I work with the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation. Without putting a value on those animals, then that's where, I don't know, that's where everything goes sideways.

1:10:41 as everybody wants to depict it. It's, It's a far more complex and complicated issue, mature herd bull is what every hunter dreams of and for folks who don't know what you're saying is i finally proved to myself i could do it and that's a that's powerful that was the first time and it's so loud. is almost like a mystical animal to me. I just like to keep secrets.

1:13:35 Let's see. oh there we go listen to this how far away is that right now he's about 70 that's him Wow. And you'll see, No, he's looking for a bull. basically and that's so that's what you dream of is about every bow hunter dreams of that Two big giant freezers? He plays for the Washington Nationals. Amazing. That drunken animal. It's darker. backstrap, skewered on an arrow over a fire. And I don't care where I've eaten or the food I've

1:18:04 Yeah. mountains and I don't know just powerful even not killing You just breathe in smoggy air. And so I was sleeping there one night and, you know, stars are out. his leg i'm like oh okay well here's one reason why he wasn't with them but it's just like those that who's that kanye west you take that motherfucker bowhunting there you go take I've never killed one.

1:22:33 So I was, I didn't have a tag for the goats. But I was seconds from getting a shot right before he looked at me and took off. Can't do a lion impression? But something creepy. And apparently they both went over the edge. Right. Yeah, this is the picture And it's just like they're so much tougher. how did you decide to specialize in elk um it's just the biggest animal near you in oregon yeah it's just like you know it was probably the

1:26:45 just it was just the biggest most respected animal a bull elk is just like man you know i could never to go to australia to shoot these water buffaloes just for the experience of it yeah just um i wanted it you know it's like when i'm not hunting i don't know just being in And so I'm like, God, what can I do? And I just say, if you want to win my bow from last year,

1:29:30 I'm like, yeah, I'll do a hunt also. what if they only beat you three of them no then i then i pound sand next no then i get to choose field, but it was about, you know, a 5k, like 3.1 miles. And so we're running and nobody You can do whatever you want with it. The point is, is your effort to me won this boat today. It's called traditional traditional land native land you have to get permission from the aborigines to hunt it and

1:32:21 And we didn't, Adam, who I went out out there with he was like you know when we took a like that, but all that stuff was gone fast. and we were out there five full days it was 120 degrees fahrenheit out there and Now, do you put it through filters? and you knew you were going to have to drink it Yeah, I don't know what kind it was. And then he's like, okay, so we we got all that now what does it smell like and it's in like a cup like this and i was like oh my still smells it

1:34:54 What about that? They had the freezer. And it's just solid ants. I mean, ants are all filled up and it's just not like regular little cool black ants like we Because you realize all that matters is you have something to drink and something to eat. And you have to make sure that you're not getting dehydrated, too. Wow. It's right along the spine, and there's no bones, and it's just big, solid meat.

1:38:25 you know, whatever, just not very pliable. And so, yeah, dense. And so I chewed that one bite of You don't like liver, like from a deer? It's so good for you though. Yeah, that's true. I forget what part of the world, that they would give to these wolves, And then some time went by, several weeks, and he went back to the wolves and a new alpha was there.

1:40:41 because normally wolves will duke it out and find out, or is he tougher you know what i mean and that's i just like the how black and white the mountains rack up there but i had it on my pack and the wolf came up and he saw me with that bull elk Play it. Yeah, that's it let's And that wolf actually... for the whole rest of the day. So that was the last thing. So those, that wolf had been, um,

1:44:15 But he had them and they got away from him. And I'm like, come on, man. thrill killing you know just kill a bunch of things just to kill them yeah you know whereas And when they're, you know, these calves that are mostly covered in snow, No, I mean, and you can't blame a wolf. This is the big bad wolf. Whether it's your baby. and he thought, oh, bears are my friends.

1:47:01 Not even slightly. am a big fan of wolves and i'm not a big fan of wolves i am a big fan of wolves and i'm not yeah not just one there's a whole community of mountain lions and they're that's what they do yeah whether it's the wolves in They had to corner wolves in the streets of Paris I mean, even the way we treat, like, killer whales. They're huge.

1:49:46 Yeah, so you bait them up there. What do you mix it in there? And we should point out probably the black bear are much less likely to attack a person than a grizzly. dominant predator, dominant bear are more likely just to come walking right in like Yeah. boars you know especially a dominant boar will kill other bear. I mean, I've, I had this we were um on prince of wales island when that's where this video is

1:53:06 one out of there. And then that's, you know, I don't know. I, I, I just don't need to kill just yeah so good bucks probably most people would kill them but i just didn't see the one i wanted Are you eating these bears? Bear, you know, bear, I've had really good bear. What are they eating for the most part? Yeah. right and he said it was just unbelievably good good yeah i know and that's you know you get those huge black bears or if they're eating fish like in alaska if they're

1:56:34 of ducks for folks who don't know. There's ducks So if you're getting any to person, make sure it's a vegetarian. oil and they would kill these bears take the. Just to lay by a winner's worth of butter and oil. Yeah, they're not going to either. But I'm not scared to work hard, and I like new experiences. So they would go to camp. They'll get it out of you one way or another.

1:59:27 Well, I just think that they minimize it. You know, animals are living by the wild. Yeah. And that's the thing. Uh, the animals have been hunted a little more, so they're a little more wary by that hunting, I mean, shooting a bow is just cool. Yeah. You know? Well, for folks who don't even It's really fun. much discipline yeah it does and that's you know getting out shooting a bow i like getting out in

2:03:35 fear is a liar and fletch that say beast mode and so your arrow becomes you know everybody if you So it's, uh, it's, it's just a powerful deal. And you're wearing an Under Armour shirt, man. It was actually, we were at SHOT Show like so 10 years ago, I think. He's like 50-some years old and just veins everywhere. it just kind of he had seen me i was editing this magazine called Eastman's Bowhunting Journal and he had got the magazine. So he knew who I was. So just kind of

2:06:17 I'm like, that's not an athlete. I just did. when it says, that's when it says athletes. I mean, look, we have this Duck Dynasty show, right? But I like the fact that it's a hugely popular show, and the show's about hunting. hell it is that's good because that's slowly starting to integrate and it's okay because There's a lot of Hollywood people listening to this show.

2:08:33 it's not a stud you're a stud that's a fat man i know you're being nice but you gotta cut this Yeah. How good was Phil Robertson at football? But, you know, as far as me being on the TV show, so I— Really? Okay, either way, if you sign on for the pilot, survivor to fear factor all these shows on is is that they've realized, like, Fear Factor, He's a very nice guy. He's a comic.

2:11:15 Well, they want that brand. something else and that becomes they still own you they still the first guy still owns you i got They took a video, they added sound to the video, and they said that a listener or a podcast But it's standard. Don't get in bed with the wrong cats He's probably honest We'll take care of you. Watched like they were in the woods and they were they were actually bear hunting and a grizzly mother with her

2:14:48 it becomes an interesting show outside of the fact that it's a hunting show. Yeah, they're trying to spook her. Callahan is shooting out in front of her. And she doesn't care at all. Peels off, spins away, and Callahan says, and we shouldn't be messed with and so so what he yells is, smell us now, lady. They get pretty tunnel vision about protecting.

2:16:42 Yeah, Outdoor Channel. There's Fox Sports 2 or something like that. Yeah. to me recently about just showing because just like the the train not only the training for the God, that expression's beaten up. animals today. Come on, watch us. People think that you drive out in a truck and Yeah, right. It was a bear. Okay. And they're drinking at the bar, and he went in there and shoved the poison arrow through the leader's hand.

2:20:31 And not only that, the way you shoot it, the poison wouldn't even get to him. Yeah. That is, you know, look, these are Hollywood stereotypes, these classic you'll have more success. And so as it is, I kill my bull every single year. And it's just, I think Like, wow, this is a lot different than I saw in the Wolverine movie. would it be okay to go out and hunt one person right you know people were like fuck no and so like when you apply that to animal hunting it's

2:23:38 And that's what that is. the cops and they send helicopters But the reality comes into you full force. The human animal is the apex predator. whole kitten caboodle. And that's what hunters are. That's what hunters dollars do is they, spending hundreds of thousands of dollars they've let it get so out of control really cool with you hunting near a playground. No. You know, your arrow misses the mark and goes

2:26:34 But it's, that's a, that's the reality of the situation is that we're the ones, as the intelligent creatures that can communicate, something in there i pull it out and eat it like i can't relate to them right you know they're shop that set up your bow yesterday uh or not yesterday day before i think was is the bow rack And you don't have to be a hunter to enjoy that

2:28:50 that i went to the archery outpost in los alamitos there's a bunch of people around there talking You've got to talk about what your job entails. No ducks, though. Yeah. Thank you. So you've got to find him on Facebook. Well, they could probably reset it. what you do is inspirational and it creates action. That inspiration, it makes people do Thanks.

2:31:29 and in addition to these reality shows that want some the hardcore hunter character that um so And thanks also to 1-800-Flowers.com Use the code word ROGAN We're going to have a good time folks. And we're going to have a good time.