Joe Rogan Experience #451 — Aubrey Marcus Transcript

Transcript

0:00 Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out! Dude, we're always going to have shit to talk about. There's always something to talk about. Are you Russian? All those gangsters that are running those. So what did they say to this fucking czar? I mean, has there Yeah, they gave up. Holy schmo. You drive down to Florida. Let's see what you would do. You know, they fucking have, you know, everybody knows about those Border Patrol guys.

4:16 zero. You remember when we were kids and Mexico was a nice place to visit? Party. and then fly home. And you know I met a bunch of people that were back. It was fun Imagine what it would be if I wasn't here. I mean, they're taking fucking paint and they're smelling it. just because they're dangerous, that sets a really fucked up precedent worried that people are gonna have guns oh what's the people with the guns are

7:38 mall and just starts sawing at people. We can't. But then you take this back to drugs and let's say it's not actually – most of these drugs are not anything like taking a hammer and hitting yourself in the head it's actually you know as we've all seen and we'll talk about Yeah, they're not trying to help you. apparently, since we had that podcast with the people from Vanguard, did the OxyContin Express,

9:44 were very lax in Florida so they could profit. But you can't tell people what to do either. Nobody thinks about that. most things. There's an LD50 for mushrooms. It's quite I've eaten like two brownies is your ego. Like, just highlights everything that you don't like It's like Bob Marley said, and meet people. And he said it was like the most miserable experience he's going 40 miles an hour on the highway he's freaking out he's sweating it's the second time he's ever done

13:01 I feel, like, legitimately good. Your whole life, madness and trying to stay afloat in a river of fucking crazy people. We're all crazy. Having that tank in my basement is so gigantic. The problem with these things is they're so intense, There's no hallucinogenic effects release for me, but when you close your eyes not when my eyes are open there's no hallucinogenic effects at least for me but when i close my eyes i see things in front of my eyelids like dancing cartoons that

16:36 Just find some new gear that you didn't know existed. Yeah. There's a thing that you do when you're in a normal state of consciousness. Where you're sort of almost controlling and defining your reality. But when you're on a psychedelic and you're closing your eyes. can say they're hallucinations and you'd be correct medically but But if say, if I gave you a DMT and I told you,

19:08 literally the good and evil of the Bible and this is what what why this has been It's a door to god's kingdom and Everybody wants to, the same assholes want to, vitamins don't work. then it's just as good, dummy. comes back to me and goes, the aboga story, but this is all after I've been somewhat through the initiation cycle. She just kind of knew about the medicine, had a great heart.

22:16 I was like, was more borderline atheist like yeah there ain't shit you know you go in a box all these people are okay, good night. You know, here's everything you need. So I'm up all night, just nervous as shit. there? What's left? How do you cling to anything? You have no control, you know? So I'm freaking So we go and we're about to start the ceremony.

24:46 of wait and my heart's thumping. I don't know what's going to happen. And then I think probably almost like, I am sure I still was breathing, but it felt like I absolutely was not and didn't need And if it's good and you've lived well and you've pushed out as much love in front of you, except you're looking back at your own life. And I realized that, you know, your eyes pinned open and you can't not look at something terrible in front of you, except you're looking back at your own life. And I realized that, you know, I had a

27:46 And the old dog that was in the car had really bad hips. And I remember the old dog just stayed right outside my door, You're clinging to reality. you know, So they created, I think it was a snuff from the bufotoxin in some kind of traditional way. But of course, as you know, 5-MeO DMT is a much different animal. i was pretty young when this would happen and it fucking put me right back in the room with one of

30:35 and rage like, fucking dare do that to me i will and and there was shit it was really heavy right and i was in little fearful and had me feeling not like a man myself, I guess, because I got kind of dominated And he says, hey, man, you're going to be raising his hand someday. You know, child abuse. but apparently involved a woman. I mean, Tiago Silva's a scary motherfucker.

33:36 Just an awesome forum, always has great up-to-date news, I mean, terrifying, terrifying shit. I mean, one of my best friends is Roger Huerta, So it's either or., either, either, or you but maybe I would have gone into some smokers or something. and rewrite, reprogram the history in your brain. The, the feelings that I had when I wasn't living with my mom and my stepdad anymore.

37:04 So fucking bored. But as I got like 19 20 21 then it became about in this intense I'd tell them that I was making chair legs. Of course, the Bruce Lee movies, man. And there was a neighbor kid who was like 12. outside. So I had those hidden behind my back. My brother was holding me back and he says, Oh, yeah. What a dumbass. That's a lesson the universe taught him.

39:31 retard wagon train. It's like one guy And you maybe get to punch one or two as they drag you to the ground and break everything on your body. Never thought that would happen. 20 fucking years is a long-ass time. Look, I'm so cute. He does he knocked guy with a 360 wheel kick once in a fight and you've got to have a good takedown it up tight. His triangle's nasty.

41:47 Yeah, Adriano Martins. Maurice Smith, who's a good buddy of mine, he landed. fucking blasted here's serrani and martinez this dude fucked up look at that i mean that is just big layoff when people talk about ring rust it's not just like when they talk about what what is fucking fight like I feel good I was really a caffeine and sugar buzz that yo i was flying on sugar and i was like i'm gonna go to new hampshire and fuck some people up

45:02 is this is kind of scary well the mind gets again, and that's exactly what you don't want. That's one aspect of it. What's going through your head. and all fucked in the head. You have to be good enough and those other things, so many things have to be in order for you to get to be that good that's why it's so fun to pursue greatness or so enriching to pursue it. And even if it's just personal greatness, you don't have to be the greatest in the world at anything.

47:40 We were using the context of this bow hunter you just met. Cameron Haynes, yeah. You know, as your favorite quote is, you know, know the way broadly and you'll see it in all things. you've gone to the edge of the of your own darkness because you have to you have to go past that to be him. I won't reveal the guy's name because I'm sure he wanted it private. But he said that watching

50:19 from him I got that from watching his videos I got first of all his The guy's a workout maniac. Or at least it sets a watermark. saying, you know, some people say, no, man, you're perfect just the way you are. You shouldn't try to feel alive from that same kind of energy and connection. And, you know, I think it's, people that are legitimately who they're projecting,

53:10 And just catching a little lie here and there. If you lived in prison and you were surrounded by liars and thieves and murderers, My dad was a cop. That I know from martial arts or whatever. every day over and over again then you get in your car okay here we go you know i'm gonna enter into Christ, what the fuck do those guys where not shit happens

55:29 You know, just got to keep it safe out here. They were looking for weed. they don't like being they don't like that feeling of resentment they don't like resenting people Existed and cops were only there for the stuff that you really wanted them there for people would love the cops because they're so used to pulling in They would go after you and then arrest them.

58:13 We're good. If there's no one else to bust, no one's selling weed, there's no one to bust, what would they do? speeding and not stopping and stopping and these private prisons would start to crumble if you know And it doesn't have to be like that. Like they work actively. That is slavery no matter how you slice it. Nobody wants marijuana to be illegal but idiots.

1:01:01 Right? because it becomes doctrine, it becomes law, it becomes... everybody feels guilty and everybody needs a priest because everybody's going to want to touch You know, there's a movement, and this rhetoric fuels the debate and the laws get passed or the congressman gets greased or that's a pretty good way to ensure that you're going to get 10% of that person's money. And then

1:04:11 it's just manipulation manipulation for profit well that's I think the good But I was like, that is so bold. then rape was a way to cast the devils out And there's a bunch of videos of it online of people convincing people that they're witches or that someone is bewitched. hard for people to swallow. So when we come along someone that claims to know something,

1:06:55 one has the answers. So when someone comes along and they tell you not only that they have the Because if it's not reproducible by yourself, it's probably bullshit. It's also an interactive experience. You've got to do a lot of work. things they say about people when it comes to getting clean. People that are abusing drugs I'm done, man. and he couldn't fucking believe it like i think i think that was what happened but like when he

1:09:57 says hey i gotta stop doing meth i don't want to be this person i'm i'm fucking i'm gonna test my Don't talk to me because you're just jerking off in my face. go fuck yourself okay I'm done I'm not gonna keep doing this man I'm not gonna keep doing this you So either you're going to be one of those motherfuckers that changes, That's what I'm here for.

1:11:50 I studied a lot of philosophy and I'm going to be fucking This is just what I do. the fuck you want to do, man. I know, I know in a different way and that's just from my own experiences of shape different ideas of thought. You absolutely can. using that positivity to reinforce your own life and inspire your own life, that is free will. You ever notice that?

1:14:54 your heart's ready to explode in your chest your fucking arms made out of rubber you don't know special experiences um that are fascinating whether i love talking to martial artists to So that need requires positive reinforcement I'm sure there are cases of that where someone is just so fucking gifted Mike Tyson, I think, and you know, two just look at all the crazy shit that guy did.

1:18:03 I heard it's amazing. is insane amounts of work, Jack Dempsey did he watched Jack Dempsey from the time he was a fucking child He was boxing when it hit this new incredible level where so many things were involved. Well, a lot of people would get to watch that guy train. Just fucking everything into it. Back then, when they knocked you down, they stood over you,

1:20:05 lifted off the ground and they fucking They punched him all this would be wasted? He had not defeated Trevor Burbick yet, but he was on his way. and coming up looking for a shot at the title and he just See, that's way better than Jack Dempsey. saying things that nobody had ever even thought you would hear on stage before he was, and some things like you look at Graham Hancock's work and then you wonder, well, what happens if

1:23:55 whereas now people are just going to get more and more efficient You could pick up your leg and kick someone in the face. He fucking hit him with his shin. Waved his finger or something like that? So he stood up. with his leg. But a person who doesn't That guy he flipped around and he hit the guy with his shin? combat sport ever. I mean, the guy just

1:26:23 Like a crazy, like a, just jumping through the air. Uh-oh. right into that heel i saw that thing happen i think it was hoist gracie fighting maybe it was Like, they couldn't possibly imagine that the guy on top, the big guy on top, gave up. Yeah. It was like full mayhem. Nobody knew. of a sudden I was like oh my god everything I know is useless I mean I

1:28:49 When I get in there, I'm going to learn easier than most people. And I was, like, twisting it around my neck and fucking holding onto it These techniques, you don't even know what a guy's doing sure especially in the beginning you don't recognize the dangerous positions you don't It was just pushing and pulling and lifting and flip. Both feet under your hips.

1:31:06 holding on tight to your collar. When you feel someone is really good kickboxing that you see occasionally in MMA with elite fighters and it's also And one will do you in. there's, you know, punches involved and kicks kicks involved so to someone who doesn't know like what really high level jujitsu looks like The level, the super, super high-level jiu-jitsu is fucking wild to watch because these guys are masters.

1:33:34 that all of these arts kind of got a testing ground. Some pieces way bigger. they get so rigid in defending their way, their dogma of what they think this is the only way, maybe that's a big piece, but maybe try some of the other meditation cycles or if you like It's like that. because I know that Bikram yoga guy. You're like, uh, okay, if you say so.

1:36:32 doing stretches with chicks. Wow. He's got a good... He started Bikram in the early 70s, saying he sexually harassed them, they Well, there's so many positions in yoga. Look at him. Warrior Six. I don't know how old he is. I think this is an illusion Guy weighs 8 pounds. Because he doesn't He says he's disappointed in the false charges But this, yeah, Bikram is a very uh in you know very involved there's a lot

1:39:52 pot? I have. When you eat it and go through all those yoga movements, McKenna believed that, Terrence And your body's aware of your areas that need work. This is some new shit, and I'm going to pee because I've been drinking too much water. With all due respect to my fellows on the other side, that schizophrenia, which my father mister body chelly People die from heroin. And every second that we spend in this country trying to enforce

1:43:03 we are telling young people not to listen to the adults about the ravages and the problems, talked about alcohol and you may have gotten to this. Cirrhosis of the liver, Boom. Yeah. There's so much. So many studies have been done so much knowledge that occasionally they'll throw out a study access to things like psilocybin and even the marijuana studies that they've been able. They

1:45:53 were going to kill her and then she And even he fucking switched his, you look at the facts and you can't help And when you get high on it, it makes you introspective. You just run this laundry list of shit. That's the one. That goes all the way to the top of the crazy meter. It's legal. And then the government's like, yeah, well, you can't put the money in the banks then.

1:48:26 Like, you've got this emerging industry, and you better look at it as an industry now through the dam like this, it's going to break the dam. The more they resist it and don't go we're just fucking doing it. You know, I don't care if the federal laws say you can't, we're also seeing this overwhelming wave of information starting to shift the way they

1:50:34 Do you know what you've done? When was the last time you saw Syria on CNN? if we really mount up and say no that's bullshit don't do that we're that's we're fucking we're Yeah. He made a bunch of fucking stories up, and that's how weed became illegal. I don't know what they're going to be able to do with the hemp, but stupid. I hear you. It could grow weed like fucking anybody else in the world.

1:53:33 That's for a year. We got to move to one of these cool states. We're not going to let Colorado be the ones to win. It's like everybody else was going to California, Make sure you send me a letter. Do they have nice cars to drive? You look at the inside of their car, they've got fucking Jack in the Box wrappers on the ground, taking your woman out and, you know, you go,

1:56:17 and you see the sunset and you see it, you know, poking through these trees You know, some of the worst kind of ideas, it's not always the case, but you see a lot in like really challenging environments that are really fucked up. You get people who are really kind of obstinate where there's unbelievable beauty and exploit them. So they slaughter these people I mean they killed thousands of thousands of these people at one point in time

1:58:44 to make sure that these people were absolutely terrified to go out. And people are capable of like why is looking out over the mountains in colorado more beautiful than you know the cedar But with nature, it's even kind of more curious. What evolutionary advantage is there very colorful and vibrant he did a lot of cactus medicines like mescaline and and things like that

2:01:39 there's some ideal of what you see there and it and looking at a flower like a beautiful blue chrysanthemum And that flower of life that's the very rough, crude version of that symbol. It's a classic image. but there wasn't all this glass and shit that we created now, are actually hearkening back to those visions that we have. And we were exchanging emails, but it was a UFC weekend and I was gone.

2:04:47 they discovered that this is always been the big controversy does dmt emanate from the pineal gland And a live rat, they have gone straight to the pineal gland and found DMT. So they know that DMT is coming out of the pineal gland of live rats. And a live rat, they have gone straight to the pineal gland and found DMT. And they're pretty sure, for sure, it's produced by the pineal gland.

2:06:25 Like we'd have to figure out what is the optimum blend to give you the most clarity in recalling psychedelic dream state at several times during the night where you are just like a DMT trip, I know this place. Like, why do I know this place? from going there, You know, they can't, they're like, what are you doing here? mode it's like the conscious mode is like what is this oh you don't remember you don't know you don't know you don't know and then you're like why do i know this place like oh you don't know

2:09:37 Like you thought that was as beautiful as it would get? They're interesting. people are supposed to be. motherfucker down there, man. I just did root create that. is that Syrian Roo is a powerful C-Y-B-I-N. There's psilocybin and psilocin. They're super close to things that the human brain already has in it. and this cobra was in the jungle. I'm dipping down in the earth and much like the ayahuasca visions, I'm having bugs come inside

2:13:47 because he's saying, oh, you're really going through it now. and you know aubrey's just laughing so i'm laughing and it was this whole wild experience but that's what you as a positive person seeking positive experiences, would create. That's true. You would create all of your relatives being super cool. That psilocybin, psilocin, he likes to think of it as orally active DMT.

2:15:56 Because this really was pretty much an ayahuasca trip that I went on. If you take a mild MAO inhibitor, like say Harmin, But that was what they were inclined to call it Take this! Take this! The reason why we don't know about this is because stuff out. That's why I always recommend people go with a guide or someone who knows what to do. or your choice, you know, forced to deal with something

2:18:55 Oh God. That's what's really crazy. It's like you could smoke pot on Friday night when you get home We own your body. Did you do something We don't want you smoking cigarettes because 9 to 5, Monday through Friday, but they own you they'd lock up all the fat people. It'd be like a sinkhole opened up right under Duck Dynasty. but it's just as insane what they're locking people up for.

2:20:42 that's our real problem, The right. It should be like, I need to know you did a big dose, we're having some weird conversation here. But the people that don't, You're looking at shit? That's really what it's almost like. I think I'm going counterculture on you. I'm going counterculture. There's so many forces that are pushing us away physically antsy and frustrated when i go somewhere and they have like real housewives on tv because

2:24:29 One of the things that's fun about life is that there are a bunch of crazy fucks out there You don't appreciate generosity until you meet a few cunts. the stock market everybody should do mushrooms holy shit that should be the front page of the The life changing news is there's 18, 19, something? Whatever he is. He's ready. He ran out of cum. You could be like a serious dick slinger.

2:26:41 He was out of comms and crazy. Not only that, he's doing it in the craziest time ever to be famous. Well, every action needs an equally powerful reaction, in order to stay in the air. The FAAs investigating it And how could he not be? He's Michelangelo if he was a singer. You know, even Alexander the Great, he was not perfect in any way. But he had, you know, he did some sensible acts because maybe he had like

2:30:33 Don't worry about Justin Bieber. Probably a bunch of chicks He had boyfriends Didn't have as much cum It's like 5. What percentage? Okay, ready for this? yeah higher percentage in those regions for sure Inner Mongolia? would be fucking amazing. carried a nearly identical Y chromosome, He fucking sets the bar. Dan Carlin is such a bad motherfucker. It's fantastic.

2:34:01 Warrior Poet Project on iTunes. I put that, it usually stays on the Ustream. So if people can't get enough of Aubrey's delicious tones, Well, I really- that you put out the blog, It's all real. that spreads, man. little bits and nuggets and morsels of truth along the way, it's exciting. And then being able to It can be ethical. It can be There's a lot of other ethical companies out there besides Onnit too.

2:36:48 I mean, some bad motherfuckers really collected some of the coolest people in the universe Telling your friends and spreading the word If I did this podcast and then every week it was like, it was fucking terrible. Stop doing it. or like, you know, fill in the blank, you know, I wouldn't be able to say dude I don't even know you man yeah yeah everybody

2:38:48 different information that's coming at me all the time, different points of view from people I'm different from you. You're different from me and together we sort of collectively get a we get a middle That's not easy to do, man. We love you all. He's a lot smarter than people give him credit for. peace muah muah muah