Joe Rogan Experience #452 — Immortal Technique & Chino XL Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan experience You know, Chino XL. But boom. That's right. Survival pack is too pretentious. you're confusing the fuck out of me with that. That's like a douchey word though right like survival They run a bunch of obstacles, You just can't take in the middle of the woods. they do go It's always endurance really more than survival because you know that there's a way out.

3:48 There's a lot of shit out there. Dude, they had a 90-pound girl. Like there was a guy that was like a crazy daredevil dude. They're less aggressive, they're stunt bulls. You know what I mean? that guy's, he'll get to like Yeah. That motherfucker That survivor show, It'd be different if it was like Survivor Basra or like Survivor Mogadishu. if you were in a hot air balloon, and it ran out of gas,

6:37 heat is what makes the balloon rise and they drop it off when they want it to it's on the ground, he's just shooting it at the But you know how that show's going to end, right? I mean, he has to get medical help, so they must have some sort of a plan. It's not a stunt shark. But yet there are some people that have, I don't know what it is, When you're down in the water,

8:49 that are that stupid, boom, Get this fucking guy out of All right, we're talking about you want to get extreme right now. in the water man if you have anything like y'all but we do have hands yeah that doesn't that they're gonna eat the shark skin And he said that what the normal sharks do is they just swim through a school of fish, What benefit would that be? It's that way that seems strange like because I think that being there

11:31 because they're culling the sharks. They're killing a lot No, it's not a bad idea. If there's a bunch of sharks out there that are killing people, You support terrorism? With all the shit that they listen to to i'm always surprised that we still have old kidnapping serial killers you figured if they And when he was making the software, he was telling everybody, like, hey, you can't use this to just spy on everybody.

13:55 worked for the nsa and he turned into a whistleblower in october 31st 2001 after more than 30 years with Where is he? Yes. It's really interesting because he just predicted it. government spies on you? I was right about that. I released a record talking about how we're going of what's going on in the world. They want the big fish so they can rat out all the little fish and they can all spend time in jail because only the main dude has the $10

16:56 You know what it is, man? doesn't think the government should be able Exactly. because one is a hidden danger I want you guys to ruin his fucking life. We... Ha! All those things are only done by people who have too much power. Everything ever done by people with guns, swords, or arrows. But there were people who believed in this fairy tale. I was there.

20:24 And they had a jumbotron set up by, like, the state building. And I was like, yo, ma, grandma, you seem so happy. that they have to to dehumanize because that's the only way to really do something that negative to You know, if you have a belief system that this group that you're going after are all evil and God is on your side and they need to be smitten from the earth,

22:22 oh, we want people in the ghetto to have personal. to be unhappy with this government treated unfairly. Anything lied to, you treated me unfairly. You told, you told someone else the they would have gone crazy. and it's going straight to them You don't even know what the fuck is going on. As long as they exist man will be good, but as soon as America is in danger

25:37 It received a charter of independence from Spain in like 1898 and literally the next year the USS Maine exploded Excuse me. They had God on their side. support you know president bush i was like what what would he have to do to lose your support But the moment that you don't, then I feel so threatened by your existence that I don't care if your children live or die.

28:17 of it on on RT yeah use of NSA metadata to find drone target kills. That's crazy. Wow. But you know what strikes me about that is that this government has no problem doing that anyway. With the metadata, that's insane, extreme collateral damage. He thinks Sam Harris is anti-Islam. as those dark brown people's cultures because they're even more dangerous yeah and my thing

31:05 Then is Christ a blood God to you or is it a God of peace? oh, guess what, you're going to use our way of doing decimation of the population. Well, that's what we used to get into arguments. ago you were driving a horse and carriage takes a long fucking time to get here maybe they can only come here once or twice in a generation Very sketchy science. They fucking blow up sometimes. What are you doing over there? Very sketchy science.

33:45 There's no saying like what dimension they're in, you know what I mean? Or how We're gross. Tomorrow's is that bestiality hold on just interspecies That was it. You would fuck her? So that's not bestiality. And they were saying If a hot alien comes to visit me that she had a really deep voice like i fucked a few smokers in my day really you gotta accept a hot chick

36:37 And then 400 years before that and 400 years before that, you stop and think about what you're talking about with Egypt. I mean, when they found that they destroyed all these ancient records and all this information about how they did their construction. like the symmetry to their buildings and the mathematics of their construction, more recent pharaohs all had black african faces like the pharaoh on the face of the sphinx is a

38:26 For sure. I mean, didn't they get the ideas in the Constitution What do they want? is so big. It's so big. bullshit. Because if they're anything like us, I wouldn't put it past them creating us with us we should be probably pretty happy that it is bullshit because if planet has been visited before just the fact that we can go to Mars with a drone. We know that we sent these manned

41:38 They would send some shit our way if they came here a long long ass time ago and then figured out a way. to read each other's minds this planet. Something that can like Get on the floor, traitor! So we're not all the same species. Some people are just dumber. It would have been a specific individual that's born within that line. and they look at you and they like, you know what, Joe, Joe walks different today. That means he's

44:52 that sexist bullshit. but they have more emotional intelligence. Physical intelligence, people who say, if we took them each at not just face value, Sometimes a dog next to a homeless person if i wasn't trapped in this fucking body. Doug Stanhope? I'm just saying that you in your life every day, Look, get your own fucking shit together. And they got them out. And then these people were just like, free. free You're on your own you can take care yourself, but then again when we think about it, then let's take that then

48:13 They're more liable to hurt themselves and they're a danger to themselves and to other my life that either almost died or died of a damn heroin overdose or some kind of drug overdose the They don't even know what toilet paper is, dude. You can't be that guy out there trying to fix the world. Do you think those people started that way or do you think it was the things that happened

50:23 Not then to be crazy enough to try to define it, But the pool hustler thing is how he got by. he had both but he was homeless a good portion of the time like sometimes he would come stay at my you find people who are supposed to be cared for by this government, and it goes back to what we are the ones that streets who do you want to build these bridges son that extra 3 billion is important right only

53:34 That's crazy. Yeah, I thought it was too much. How the fuck are you going to give the charity? Oh, my God. That is... That means baseball. It's like, how does that get determined? That guy got tax-free. please come to this area, you know, you can learn of a screen with like four or five other And there was somebody else in there who really needed that fucking job.

56:37 You might be right about this racist shit by the way because the only other ones that don't have to pay taxes the the Yeah, that's like the most money, right? God damn it. Well, they have so much money in Los Angeles well, are you a member of the Church of Scientology? That was the way he got close to you. The hate comment came right out of Josh. He was a police officer, too.

59:08 Because if there's a new group that came out of nowhere and they hadn't had all this history of owning all these buildings and you found out that they developed this religion based on the science fiction author's writings and you would read it and go, wait a minute, what the fuck? Well, I mean, someone else could tell you, Look, I have a great respect for people

1:00:19 people will believe preposterous things all of them ask you to believe something preposterous different river or something nah it's the same water and i'm like really like yeah definitely gonna die if you don't sell it to eat and motherfuckers just stealing you know reebok They're like these really intense, like, multicolored, He's not trying to make money off people or own people

1:03:11 kickstarter for it and raised the money like in no time it was amazing the people from this podcast In upstate New York. You know what I'm telling you? and happy and friendly. It's always the inheritor. You know what I mean? damn i want to hit that this fucking husband of hers is just fucking up my flow church, people who And, you know, when you examine the changing of Christianity,

1:06:05 something called Arianism, which is the idea that the father is superior to the son. In other words, Stated that all bishops, presbyters, and deacons, and all other clerics were to abstain completely from their wives and not to have children. they had too much power Martin Luther came along and And the way that they learned to read in Greece and in Rome was actually by reading the Bible.

1:08:33 There's a great hardcore history podcast on that called something Thor. or the Gothic tribes, meaning the inheritors of the Roman state. What makes them a barbarian? They were enormous people. of encountering German people. The thing is that... Where the fuck did you put the people that did bad things? Well, that's the thing. I mean, it depends on what society you want to imagine i mean i remember i watched the movie 300 right and it was like oh man they seem they make these persians seem like

1:11:55 But to me, it's a comic book. those Athenian boy lovers, and I was like, In that particular area. That's not a Spartan. You're talking about people that are constantly engaged in the slaughter of people. Well, some people thought in that particular age that the only true love that could exist That's a different, complete era of time during that particular how dare you spartans hey hey that's not where you're supposed to put that

1:14:36 Look closing on the guy on the bottom He's all smooth and shit. The guy on the bottom needs a lot of naps. It was the lead. Yeah, if you want to fuck with a guy's head, you could definitely do that. What bitch? the cops come. Oh, what's up, bitch? We're talking about a fight that's happening no matter what. Like, for example, other sports, they have a limit to what they can say.

1:16:58 For saying the darkest, most evil shit to someone on another team. But similar to the way some sports regulate it, should it be regulated, Joe? How the fuck would you know my house is on fire? Carmelo. Carmelo. He pretty much said a comment I bet she does though. And they were both in the same team together? Dudes talk shit. And if you're willing You know, especially fighting.

1:19:02 They know what the fuck they're doing. Distraction. Listen, man, you're wrong. look, Chael can obviously back it up. pressure but then what because you because it shows character. Cracks, cracks. because it was entertaining for all of us. You can if you want. No. He used to bring a rubber gorilla. And then you're also dealing with a new medium, which is television.

1:22:48 Joe Frazier hated him forever. Joe Frazier was pretty open about it Yeah, he's a fighter. He was a different guy. to come back from. You tell me. Is he going? Once by catastrophic injury in a fight that he's quite honestly losing. I saw some videos of him fighting other people. House full of stud athlete dudes. Anderson Silva just couldn't hang with that two times

1:25:37 Stung him, rolled his eyes back in his head. So he started getting cocky with him, talking shit, trying to get into his head. There's no better stand-up striking technique than Anderson Silva's. Allegedly. If you watch how Bernard fights, he's a master. But the way he gets guys out of their head is he fights rough with them. And then, you know, I mean, he did that to a lot of dudes.

1:27:46 I remember that, of course. It was the 2000s. He had beef with the Puerto Ricans. But yeah, he had to squash the beef with the Puerto Ricans. It was in Madison Square Garden? Then he fought Kelly Pavlik, and that was Boxing performance. Masterful. No, I remember that fight. It was genius. And then he fought Kelly Pavlik. Yeah, that's an interesting fight.

1:29:51 But they use supplements and all kinds of other shit. of different muscle enhancing supplements. You know, there's like testosterone boosters that but for the most part, most of the guys that get on it, and there's another and there's a dispute as to whether or not he's going to get licensed in Las Vegas. A normal human being, he would have much lower.

1:31:59 Weidman is a fucking beast, but goddamn Vitor Belfort looks scary as shit lately. It's very, very scary. that one of my friends difference in kind of how they run those local spots and I know I've never Just tell me which one you want to go to, and we'll hook it up. There it is. That's the feeling you get when you're anticipating a hangover. That one, I'll give you the exact date of that.

1:33:35 Yeah, that one is going to be gigantic. by the way, of him as a person and as a fighter, which is fucking madness and chaos. And Diego Sanchez is the definition of the word savage. use his grappling, just knocks people the fuck out. like 6% body fat and just shredded shredded spring of just corded steel and I'm not going to say that too recklessly.

1:35:48 Most things that I know that really, really got it like that, they don't ever start problems. he's gonna fight glover tashara who's the scariest motherfucker out of all the 205 pound contenders and was knocking, knocked out Little Nog, He's a beast. What was the visa issue? It's funny because we were going to have has to be enforced. It's not just And when they pay into it,

1:38:21 But it can be done. That's a tough fight. Really, really close fight. Jon won that decision, and I think, you know, reallyson, who's a beast. It was a great, great fight. Really, really close fight. They're going to fight in Baltimore in April. He's been around a long-ass time, and he hits fucking hard. He's like, when this fucking guy hits you. You feel the knuckles through your hand.

1:40:20 He's like, if he hits you, you're fucked. I forget who it was, but one person was really It was an MMA fight. I guess it's the American Airlines Center, Joe. And I just hope, see, if they don't give Vitor a testosterone use exemption, Unless they figure out something that they can give him that will kickstart his production of testosterone. on antidepressants yeah he was taking some sort of medication yeah that's

1:42:38 been affected by that? He's a bad motherfucker, dude. I think for a brief moment in time. Those people really gave him a run for his money. well that was also no Buster Douglas happened and he fought Holyfield He headbutts everybody. and the madness were too crazy But I mean, again. But I just think, I don't think and just started starching people with fucking haymakers that came at the speed that roberto

1:46:21 When you redline an engine, you go, bah. and they say, oh, you know what, I'm going to start a construction company Get a restaurant. He became a commentator. Like Dwayne Ludwig is the coach of the year. I mean, they're all striking at a very high level now, Some guys go into acting. there was another rumor dick slinger like, oh, yeah, for sure. That's what I said

1:49:15 And you gonna throw It comes out and grabs everything. She wants to lay down right now. I'd beat off in the corner. The tits are tremendous. You don't need to fuck up the picture Zoom in on the shorty right there. Oh, wow. Paul Revere. Rush Limbaugh's right. But wait a minute, homie. to use those points to try to shut you down and build them up but it all just makes everybody

1:52:27 I met Tom Seidmore. Oh, I don't know, man. That's what everyone's saying. Super ugly. He wound up dead The violence of a gun, like if you've ever shot a gun, you know the guns have a kick. He still could have killed himself. That's what I did. killed him, they moved his body and they put a gun in his thumb. Wasn't Whitewater the Nixon shit? When I was incarcerated, I was in Pennsylvania, and I was processed through an area, and there

1:55:36 Right. That guy's a judge. No. They could have got their shit together Fuck him. is, though, that a lot of people never them. And I won't say that they're true because I don't want to get sued. But the reality is that I That whenever someone had like an issue with drug addiction or something like that, don't have a beef with Canada I don't have a beef with Mexico and have beef

1:58:54 and that the divide and conquer is almost impossible now. You know, I think that people would be on a verge of ripping the place apart. and bought off and bribed. And what was going on? How they got caught is one of the bookies, A fuckload of money. and that same someone put the same, like, really ridiculous score in another fight one fighter's winning by like six, seven,

2:02:08 So you can bet a huge amount of money that Manny Pacquiao is not going to beat Timothy Bradley by unanimous decision. What did you watch? The odds were, like, super sick. Yeah, you pay the center off. I mean. We all know that. Beep. Beep. Beep. Beep. Beep. Beep. Beep. Beep. Beep. Beep. Beep. Beep. Beep. Beep. Beep. Beep.. B.E.N. door like one of those aircraft carriers where they lower the door and come out like saving

2:04:10 It's more obvious. and they told him in no uncertain terms that they could make it so that he wins the fight in a fake fight. And if he did do it, I feel bad, But what they did was Or he could go there You could get tagged and get knocked out. They got caught in like heel hooks or something like that Because, you know, the odds of him submitting you are really small.

2:06:52 it on him. But it could happen that you give pressure i mean like a like a subconscious thing telling you yeah you know you know it's we we or I found some measure of success, it's too hard for people, so they almost look to lose to get it over with. take a beating, and wait for the referee to pull them off. If they start getting hurt, they'll start tapping.

2:09:03 But he knew. They don't tap. I'm never going to tap. Like, that's There's guys like that, and there's guys who just tap. Then I have to go through rehab. That's just part of the game. That's part of reality. And if he doesn't, he goes to sleep. Did you see that Russian snooker player who got busted for snooker in English? scandal because they loved their snooker in england snooker yeah yo i had a great time when I was out there. I got to say, England to me reminds me of the same type of enthusiasm that people had in the 90s for hip-hop,

2:11:55 alright thank you here you go This is something I, Isn't that okay? Certain shows are like that. And the fucking opener was like, oh, hold on, man. It's just weird because when I walk around there and I meet people, they have no idea what I do if they don't know what I do. lying to that dude no no because because i because i i've studied i studied with it for years so i

2:14:11 in these creation mythologies It's just what you believe the world is. Similar to the way people will flip a penny in the air a society you were never part of in the first place? But back to the point, this guy's like, Yo, so the dude's like, what do you get into that? very unique crowd very unique crowd. You see what I mean? And they're going, I'm going to get a good one this time.

2:17:03 Well, not that I know of. It was a bit that he would do. And we would always do, tell us about your gay I'll think about it. Because they could do it in the middle of the middle. I've seen people throw chairs at each other because of hecklers. I've got a cunt, so I've got carte blanche. And they're like, well, why not? like a breadstick for fucking your next name.

2:20:07 I've never beat up a fan. Get the fuck out of here. Damn, if it's that little, there would be more. they have a lot of ejections. at the venue with shitty comedians Like you trip on someone's set. Yeah, that was one of Mencia's tricks. And Mencia, they were taping a TV show. shithead just stole a bit right before he goes on stage and it was uh that was what he would do like

2:22:51 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I middled for him in West Virginia, That's no fun. Tell me about it. And also that person They think, It's really, really on purpose. And the only thing that made any sense was that he just thought Tony was too strong. funny stand-up because he really wasn't he was a really funny guy he was a great actor he was a I think it was more of a performance art piece.

2:25:50 That does sound like some avant-garde bullshit. He did a lot of transcendental meditation. Jerry Lawler, right? was all performance art right but it was you know in that context it's He's letting her beat him. But I wanted to recapture Now he's actually pinning her for real. Tony Clifton. Tupac's still alive. I wouldn't necessarily call it an argument.

2:28:53 Right, for sure who killed him like it's like how could it not Right. yeah we were just talking about that It's crazy. Chris Dorman. that Rampart had, Are they? certain police officers It happens, man. And the thing is, is they caught like a core of them. So they built a whole case, you know, a few years about it. And what they did is the sheriff moved the inmate and they kept finding out. So they built a whole case a few years about it.

2:32:01 his handler couldn't find him. What do you mean Social media, having a camera. Well, you know, it's going to be harder and harder for those motherfuckers to do shit like that. the the female guards the female guards returning tricks. Wow. That's crazy. Let's make a deal. What, is that bad? Am I lying? You suck it. That's sold. Society craves conflict.

2:34:56 Now I have it once in a while. and shit like that? because it would be fake, It's not... But the way I feel about stand-up, if I went to see Joey Diaz, okay, he's my favorite comedian, If I ever tricked a bunch of people to think We were in Ohio. There's a video. We were leaving Steak and Shake, right? the guy. Look, the guy's got no shirt on in the audience.

2:37:10 Is he that guy? Because it would have been so perfect, We gotta wrap this thing up anyway. and you're really a big fan They found out that the whole area Like a ziggurat. They all have these reliefs, And these are 3D reliefs, meaning that they took the stone away. And this is in central Turkey. this site, Hattusha. to the level it did. Could be they also had irrigation back then, too. Well, that is

2:40:35 but whatever the case may be, but also on sea. that had existed for like 3,000, 4,000 years doubt, no doubt, no question. You know what I mean? I mean, but not only that we live in, but that we're willing to live in. So fuck all the rest of you. Because that's just how it is. and almost irreconcilable places believe the same thing, I'm threatened by your belief system. Not you or me specifically,

2:43:36 because it would have created a much different Start talking into it Immortal Tech on Twitter What is Bobby Bowdick? word ROGAN at checkout. Save yourself some supplements. Alright, we will see you Peace.