Joe Rogan Experience #453 — Molly Crabapple Transcript

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0:00 Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out. I first found out about you because actually a dispute that you had with Amber Lyon, Like very distinct and fascinating. Oh, you're welcome. they don't want to admit they take it. but the effects are so real and so obvious that I would think that some people would be like, Wow, you got a really powerful reaction to it.

2:19 But it didn't make me feel any stronger or anything like that. I found out about it from Dave Asprey was the first person. And I was like, oh, okay, I got to try this. He was like, fuck this, man. I think the government knows how to make that stuff. Did I even tell you to eat? I thought you'd eat half. I didn't even find out about that stuff until a year ago.

4:37 Remember when he was talking about it? Every time I've tried the stuff, it's because I have a lot of work to do. It's interesting. It saved me. Like how do you go about making something like that? Well, with murals, it's easy not to do that because there's so much space. You could just thing in everything like when you're being creative if you're trying something out you

7:52 It's so important for, I think, every art form. illustrated like Cabbage Patch Kids or like, you know, stuff for gumball machines. She's super good, Thank you. That's fascinating. No, it's absolutely true. I know. Is that like how a lot of them do it? different shows of different contracts obviously but if you're on one of those like what just name

11:19 look like a fool. Yeah, the thing is that system is already plugged in, runs smoothly, and extracts money. system. But if you're an artist, do you have to go initially with galleries? Like how do you Oh, wow. So now I'm sorry, I connected you with reality shows is not intentional. It was probably So then, you know, you're essentially running your own show now, right?

13:11 to bad shitty deals it's like, and the other person has a window and a roof, and they get half. When and how long is that sometimes? Oh, God. but for the comics, I always think, in the village for the comedy seller that's even more fucking crazy. You know, I mean, a lot of it is people that don't stay in touch with their audience enough. day, too. It's just non-stop.

17:02 Wednesday night. And when they can Like, you really don't need them. But I don't sell work for a million dollars. I mean, there is work out there that costs a million bucks, right? And stocks, like the prices of them, it's kind of arbitrary. And they created this guy's entire career And then he cedes these to a couple other people. And then boom, it's $50,000 for all these different photographs.

20:34 So he was spending his own money on his own art just to create this webris of wealth. Is that a real skull? Couple of human heads It's very weird. what was the term you would use? I found that fascinating. Would it be the opposite? What do you feed piranhas? Very difficult to grow. They have that. That's way more beautiful than piranhas. and there's things that are not beautiful.

24:04 You know, people just, they change what they find beautiful in the world They're these Western Muslim fundamentalists who are this is death, this is like the end of thinking beings It has to go through all these filters. I mean, why would you accept something that's taking living, thinking, What did they do? What did they do to us? You know, and it leads to all these incredibly, incredibly dubious decisions, whether it's like New York, where cops are frisking young guys balls just to look for marijuana,

27:12 You guys are fucking freaks. What are you doing? We're looking for Arab dudes in Afghanistan, you know, like Bin Laden was. drugs or who otherwise have annoyed them. And then these guys, we buy them 5,000 bucks. The locals Almost 800 people have gone through Gitmo. He was an Al Jazeera cameraman, yeah. there for a bunch of years. Just a cameraman? He was an Al Jazeera cameraman, yeah.

29:54 20? So their logic is that they're holding these guys until the end of the war. And it can end. I mean terror is a tactic. Right. That war has been going on forever. And it can end. I think 9-11 is when they started the war on terror. No, it can't. take him because we've made a big deal about how these guys are the worst and the worst in the But they're Uyghurs.

33:00 of anti-Chinese people in America. So what did we... It sounds like if somebody one day writes a book on Guantanamo Bay, it's going to be a doozy. and they're an old couple. And they come over, and they're like his kids' long-lost grandparents. Just got lucky and moved next to some beautiful people fly together in the sky and what something looks like it's orchestrated.

36:06 So when we find someone who's awesome, But it's almost like to see the evil get their shit together. I'd like to think that within my lifetime, I would see a massive change is reliant upon each other. And the love that you get, the strength of it, is almost dependent So like my cat, who I had since I was 11, I love this little beast so much. like we we had to know and kind of decide for her you know yeah well it would have just been

38:58 We were talking about it's like, you know, Oh, yeah. and then they start talking louder and louder to compensate? Because it's a nighttime thing. Yeah, like they're all cougars? My cats never had sex except for my dog. Yeah, right? A lot of them have never had sex ever. That's a good point. My cat's never had sex except for my dog. But it might be just to

40:52 You hear about that lady in Chile recently? Get out of here, lady. Something's going on. Wow, this is TMZ. And Bruce Jenner was this amazing athlete. Just the way he gets yelled at on that show. You broke Bruce Jenner. whole reality thing the whole reality show thing is a fascinating aspect of They're just like you and I, allegedly, and that that's become something that people are into.

43:44 I think it's also just that it's really effective, too. They're really high rated. Like, stupid shit whether it's the Real Housewives or any of that stuff it's Like there's gotta be a better way to do this. Yes. It's just they just have a job. but with rocket launchers and with grenades and stuff. They're two neighborhoods. They're nice. Remember Patrick Swayze from Roadhouse?

46:58 until they're in a context where it's not to their benefit to be cool There's 300 million of us in this country, People loan people money. People are—it's amazing how little we kill each other. imminent danger dangers around the corner we're gonna fix which is the reason the reason why the does people just wait their whole life and they're super goody two-shoes and then one day do something

50:00 And you're justifying it how? You can't just look through people's email. And then they always justify it by kind of pointing to a scary other, like making a bogeyman. And well, there are for sure some horrible people out there in the world. telling me that okay but there's a lot of people who would hear that statement and go oh my god You can't pinpoint things like that.

53:09 that they believed were in the possession of people that they wanted. Yeah. Well, that's how they define it. But it seems like, I mean, it doesn't even talking about that. In real life, if you have a few bad apples, they don't just like stay isolated. They're, you know, acknowledged by our government. I mean. dude voices. My vocal range is somewhat

57:28 or I wonder if that is just the job. Like you get in there and it's a machine that you, you, and then that's your day-to-day The fact that it was of utmost importance to the fact that the president had to make a big press conference and stand in front of everybody and talk about the imminent military invasion of this horrible nation that's killed people.

59:20 And I talked to these people and they'd be like, well, that was stupid that he said chemical weapons are a red line. Doesn't that seem like that's the bad one? He killed his uncle's family. So he murders them all. The alternative is these people stay imprisoned. He just did a book on North Korea. It's almost. If someone super sensitive would really like use that as an excuse to blow up at you right now.

1:02:29 I watched the whole piece. He was weeping and weeping and thinking about his children. Afghanistan, whether it's Iraq. There's a lot of bad people over there that it would do the people If they had something, we would slowly weasel our way in there. comes directly from that fat little head is insane i mean it's insane the amount of power that a guy

1:04:59 Kim Jong-il was a super movie buff, and he He had to escape? When you deal with someone who has, in one hand, passionate about them. We have no reason to go over there. That's a fascinating thing when you No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We got democracy. You got oil. Let's work it out. Oh, that's not good. Maybe that's the move. drugs aren't a military problem. They're either people putting something in their body recreationally

1:08:27 Oh, okay. You have a war on these open-ended things like drugs. I like drugs more than I like assholes that want to universally go after all drugs. So I look at Stop and Frisk in New York, Right. Sometimes there's both. really good at hiding stuff. Gotta be got to be really careful about that. or they've known someone who's been abused by cops. systematically

1:11:57 than black and Latino guys. places. That's possible. If I was a black or Latino guy and I was like really into weed, I'd probably And it's not the police officers themselves. that we're living in now. that you got to look for it in places where it's absolutely not happening right now. Are you an I really do. It's a shit position to be in where you're, you're being told that you have to do

1:14:58 No, I agree with you. And yeah, I just think that things like banning drugs by their nature lead to those sort of police abuses. Ah, look what I found. Why? Like, that's fucked. We imprison the highest percentage Hookers should be awesome. no it should be decriminalized it's one of the most desirable things you could do to a person. Can we Like, man, I don't even believe in Bitcoin. We just play. We have sex together. But we pretend like we're giving each other money. If it's not real money, if it's not real money, maybe that's the argument. Like, man, I don't even believe in Bitcoin. We just play. We have sex together, but we pretend like

1:18:37 I've got time for you, you floozy. He's the only person I know. like it you know i think most people look forward to it most people enjoy intimacy and the idea that And that's her job. You know what I mean? And people would say, no, It lasted for a long time. like they'd begin and end relationships of their own accord they'd maintain awesome households

1:20:55 Cortisans. I never heard that before. I guess that's effective. That's sex. And it's completely culturally, like, how we accept it, them. I think for a living. that I worked on, I mean, some of my friends They're okay with it? Your way of describing it is powerful and empowering and logical. But I'm just, I think that a lot of people who are or working at Wendy's? I don't know.

1:24:30 totally acceptable to be a massage therapist but if someone says what do you do i jerk off guys They work their elbow on your back. Fascinating. Give me five minutes. I saw you did like a poster of his. the poster right there. and production companies anyone lives in that, especially Really? You are the elite with your washer dryer there. Wow, that's beautiful.

1:27:26 It was at Tibet House. Yeah. Yeah, he's a really nice guy, too. He's building this intense temple. that it'd be impossible for someone to create What is this? Fingers crossed. Entheon? And if you scroll back up where you just were, Like that's what the actual building. Well, he's definitely doing art, but he's definitely doing his own thing. What is that? You're welcome. But it's awesome stuff, obviously. It's beautiful artwork,

1:31:59 And my eyes, they see things curvy. And there were like porn stars hanging from hoops over the bar and world-class circus performers. Picasso obviously went through very many classic periods. Do you have like different periods of your art where Wow. And so what led you to this like socially conscious work that you're doing now? Like what Or even it's good, but it's just for a certain demographic.

1:34:34 Like his stuff, you know, this isn't a diss to his stuff, And so the first thing I did was I started drawing people down at Occupy because there is this media image You know, I might have. The way I've always described Wall Street and Occupy, especially Occupy Wall Street, You got to have a really fucked up spot to get people to do that. No. you can't have a mass movement where every single member of that mass movement is an articulate

1:37:53 And then there's a microphone in front of their face and they know that the thing, like being able to do that. Like most people don't do that. They are not trained in that. quite difficult to do. So if you take a guy like Peter Schiff who's a black belt in talking and you just feed him to these poor people who have no idea they're going to be in a debate when they woke up that morning, you put a camera on him, he's going to feast on them.

1:39:35 They need to have time to research this debate. They don't think of the people that are just circling this disease and looking at this and going, I have a company. It's just weird that there's one business that's too big to fail and it's the business of controlling because the industry itself shrunk down But what a name. Well, I mean. know fucking bashing your head against someone else and maybe getting a concussion for you know

1:43:20 Could you imagine if there was a draft? I do like one this way and then Oh, that's the new thing, right? Yeah, all cams. a lower pixel, You could be the woman or you could be the man. I haven't tried it yet. I did not even think about that. I like being able in front of me But as, like, a first-generation device, it's just, I didn't even have any preconceptions.

1:46:32 get to new york like no no you get on a plane stupid like what are you talking about like This Google Glass is the wagon train. You'll be able to access the internet 24-7. So it's like, all right, now move your hand down your chest. Like they did. Because like NVIDIA, they allowed me, But I think that once this Oculus Rift gets to that point, things are going to be very, very, very strange.

1:49:50 fact that you know you're kind of moving on a treadmill. Once you get that becomes normal, I was like trying to make the cognitive leap and imagine what that would be like. Well, it's also the disconnect that's not present in nature. being serious like come on you don't know that i'm joking you're like but if someone just reads I don't think he's serious, all right?

1:52:13 I put you high up in the sky and now you're not coming down. It slowly turned. I came in like a wrecking ball. There's also a really good Robocop remake There's a guy who's been around. you know like and like he's this And there's like something almost like, He's not that polished thing. Who knows? It just feels fake. like you couldn't there's no way that janice joplin couldn't have been a star you you could

1:56:04 but in an authentic way is such a rare fucking bullshit mechanical, you know, tearjerker way, but an authentic way is this girlfriend that moved to western Massachusetts I was living in Boston I was living in Newton and This song came on the other day, and my whole body tingled. And first of all, my whole body started tingling And it's half past four and I'm shifting gear. There's a cable coming in from above. Don't need to fuck it up.

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