Joe Rogan Experience #468 — Duncan Trussell, Christopher Ryan Transcript

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0:00 It feels weird when you break up conversations like this. It's because it's not human. power hungry. It accumulates power. that's always coming through the universe. And it's kind of like one manifestation of that energy Yeah, no doubt. I don't think it has anything to do with money. people who make a lot of money who do a lot of good things with it and they seem

3:20 Well, that's also because they got a stronghold on the market when Apple was shit. And people got really pissed. But so what? any more juice out of it. And then the Windows computers I'm imagining thousands of them. But it used to be – like if you wanted to, iTunes wasn't around back then, but it used Windows looked like a dinosaur in comparison. But remember when Apple shit all over Final Cut?

6:27 And the new Windows system is pretty amazing, man. If you're used to, like, whenever you stopped using it, if you revisit it now, it's pretty cool, man who cares let me destroy my goddamn computer if i want to and my life it's that attitude of like Yes. hair on your palms but when did that end that wasn't my time no well unless you're catholic Kellogg from Kellogg Cereal, right?

8:49 Yeah, how was the idea behind that? You know why they like that? fucking mount confusion A cow that does yoga That's unbelievable. that they can't pull. You know, I have a friend who keeps cows. He doesn't have, like, an old-schooly wooden fence. We have pads now. I've got preemptive multitasking And they run from you and this idea they live in fear those fucking things

11:50 in a time portal but they cows would come to your table and they could talk and they would suggest They can just have amputations. coming out of the kitchen in a restaurant, right? I mean, you're not just cutting off. what we're worried about is pain and fear oh we remove their pain sensors they don't have any they no brain at all. Right. Oh, for sure.

14:08 It just was grown. I always just thought some people, some civilizations were cannibalistic and some weren't, right? It was just like some evilness that got into some and not others randomly. But it turns out that there's a biological reason for this. So they were protein starved. Who's cannibalistic and who isn't? Yeah. But he told me these great stories about the Nez Perce Indians

16:46 And they made a regular habit of it. The guy made it to the river, went into a beaver den naked, swam up into a beaver den to hide. They chomp through trees. And then he winds up walking some, like, 100 miles or some fucking crazy shit. Look at this fucking beaver. Run. he climbed into the beaver's house in the water in the night. Let's take a chance swims up into it in the middle of the night fucking a man

19:18 So many other things have fur. Oh, my God. And the introduction of wolves, they've dwindled the population of deer and elk down. that there's more beavers. and tumbles all the way down to the bottom. had built up and built up in the Yellowstone Park, where they could be trapped most easily, forests of aspen and willow and cottonwood. And as soon as that happened, Quinn Cooper. Look at that fucking bison. What an animal.

22:19 As a result of that, the number of rabbits and mice began to rise My erection began to grow with the wolves. The wolf population is growing. Right. That's what I think. than American accents. Yeah. American and his family's had lots of money for a long time. Right. But there's no, didn't have money who can listen to your accent. Like, if you hear someone's voice, it says everything about them.

26:03 like when you're saying like the south will again, you are pointing to a time when slavery was okay. So you're Neil Young and you're Leonard Skinner in this conversation. And these sons of bitches up north were telling you To me, I mean, a lot of times it just does. Isn't that funny? There were some Native American people. Yeah, look at this. There's people who are trying to show that you can't.ler fucked up that mustache and he fucked up those two things you'll

28:56 There was a decision. you believe the idea that he went to South America? article from, you know, 1947 The fuck out of here with this. They found his body, didn't they? Good God. So what? No, the body, apparently the body that they found, disproven. Well, a lot of Nazis definitely did go to South America. Werner Von Braun, in fact. factory in Berlin. They would just take the five slowest workers and hang them.

31:37 Nazi scientists walk in. There's the rocket But, you know, it's, well, it wasn't his idea. People want someone to be good or evil. They were saying all these positive things that he did. They don't go away. I mean he did some crazy fucking shit. Yeah, that's a strange thing, isn't it? met you that i would be sitting next to a ticking time bomb of a guy like explosive with rage, you know, and you're so chilled out.

34:59 If either of you want to meet him, he's a wonderful dude. And when people have experiences like that and they're like, no, I'm'm not gonna let that be the anchor that pulls me down into a negative life i can reinvent myself you know sexual abuse and that sort of thing was not an issue for him uh and uh fighting like four You'll do juvie for a year or two, then you'll do like one or two years,

38:11 used he left some some money 15 grand or something and he used that money to hire a private detective Cool. That's incredible. Yeah. That's incredible. the like fund to help him and they became friends and that's how i got to know him wow cool that's And so one of the ideas was the motive was to rob his mother of a couple hundred dollars. interviews everyone, like,

40:42 Oh, my God. What? What the fuck, man? They have a year to turn in the results right this guy from internal affairs who's an honorable cop did the Right. What the fuck? in Miami. You ever see the movie And the stories that they tell are fucking unbelievable. It's really like a country, like a different country. You're just chaining up a skinny guy who wanted to feel good, man.

44:10 And then they bust some guys because they got them weed? Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. We don't have a perfect culture. Yeah, this is a very American thing, too. They've served in Afghanistan, Iraq, whatever. The trigger is that somebody complained, It's the same thing with parking. where I'm parking my motorcycle So much better. Than what we're doing over here. Yeah. won't do anything it's like that's a cop that's a definitely a better way of doing it so much

47:52 A lot of judges resigned. He was getting paid. Every one of those kids, every one of those kids that he sentenced should get, as an adult, a day to beat the fuck out of them. Almost beat him to death. If I was a kid, especially, that this guy put away, I would love to beat the knuckles on that guy's face. If I was a kid, especially, that this guy put away,

49:26 They're predatory and they do that. that's where the top creme de la creme of the criminals go to the fucking legal system and into the government Because let's face it. So in the same way, it's an atrocity in a very small it might interfere with the selling of another drug. Yeah, I saw that. A human battery to generate money. That's what it fucking is, and that's where we're going. Yeah. Corporate government interfusion is fascism. That's what it fucking is, and that's where we're going.

52:40 It's in the contract. What would they do? We'll never stop crashing into each other. That's like a $50 million a month bill that the city gets. Roll by. The ones that fuck up the environment the most are the sexiest. Because you know how they have those new cyber suits Brushes your teeth for you. If it stops raining, we're fucked. There's so many things that could go wrong,

55:40 Let's just keep going. I'm like, what the fuck are you saying, man? In fact, more than I love anything in this world. That's true. You just have to be cool had kids and don't want kids and they're still great to be around. I love them. There's nothing wrong with that. But there's so many I always say, man, when they invent a baby that knows to shit in this little sandbox from birth, I'll get a baby.

58:18 But that's all about me. And obviously for the planet, it's a hugely destructive thing to have a child, especially an American child. still gonna use a lot of resources so what what are we gonna What happens to the world? How about we all kill ourselves? Oh, no, no. Don't worry about bringing kids into the world. An errant load. The other ball gave up, tapped out.

1:00:04 By the way, I'm not saying I'll never. I mean, I don gotten cancer in both balls by the way I'm not saying I'll never what's that saying? Or not. and a lot of them don't necessarily get too much credit for that but i think it's like like you get whatever. There's too many of us. on Democratic vagina sponsors, The, the justifications Joe Rogan is Nelson Mandela.

1:02:09 You were asking me if I buy what. You don't buy his, It's like atmospheric layers. others americans at a higher rate than anyone right we create more carbon more plastic more that's really smart, that figures out how to So engineers should have babies. start acting like a parasite because why wouldn't you you're a parasite so i think it's the language

1:04:37 You're a piece of it. And number two, as far as getting chemotherapy, which I didn't get, but if you do have cancer The human curiosity itself is natural. Human innovation, human imagination, all those things are natural. It's not like we make it in a fucking portal. It's a redundant word every But, you know, I mean, how many people do you know that claim to be conscious

1:07:22 Yeah. We had a great time together. Yeah, it was about two hours drive. And I'm like, oh, shit. Was it a filter or unfiltered? You know, I don't want to see it. Because if you had any awareness at all, the last thing you do is throw a fucking cigarette He was a famous, probably the most famous author who lived in Utah. Oh, yeah, exactly. Who were we talking about earlier?

1:10:06 Don't build the fucking roads, right? I don't know. Without having read a word of his work, I might add. Yeah. You're doing it. Okay. it for the rest of us. It's more of a cunt Here's a guy who gets, what, 12 miles per gallon in your muscle car? Because you were saying earlier, like, with the muscle cars, I have a different kind, but the kind that I have is not like that.

1:12:21 I like the roads. And then before you're looking at roads and deciding that roads are evil or whatever, in yourself, you're probably going to stop doing a lot of the things that are causing pollution in high on ecstasy your regrets always involve being too effusive with your friends. Game of Thrones and I told that you know what I'm saying it's like yeah then it's

1:14:53 it's not a justifiable action It's beautiful. It should because that's how you use cars, dummy. with this. Smack that guy. Desert Solitaire. That's the name of the game he plays And I agree with that. I'm not going to, what am I going to do? criticize civilization. Well, you're saying I should be a hunter-gatherer? No, I'm saying But you're moving to a different conversation, which is, is it all good?

1:17:29 That's not the argument. not having to worry about information and education, not having to worry about social structures, to have to worry about dying from all these diseases everyone died from. Fact is, like the We always justify that. provides. Oh, you're slippery fuckers is what you are. Here is the universe expressing itself in this is nature.

1:21:08 We talk to each other. Because I think you pull those things away. because we're not involved in their world on a regular basis. very limited in fact, we have so few senses, we have them numbered. I mean, why would we assume is the only one like that out there, of time is speed it up and anything that goes slower is slowed down it's Other things live and die.

1:24:34 radical change that happens in everything in the universe when it goes from being from one form to We're just like, that's the thing. It's that, or it's like that. You're watching Bill O'Reilly. But there are all these different channels that, blah, blah. Ann Coulter is the goddess, whatever. But there are all these different channels look at the fucking radiation,

1:26:57 I don't think, oh God, the monster black hole sucking this dimension into it. And I don't The black hole is sucking fucking light into it. And is several miles deep within the first couple seconds No, I didn't Because we're talking about how fucked up the word nature is. Their snout extends, their hair becomes darker and coarser, and their tusks grow.

1:29:26 On the left. Yes. That's the point. If pigs had existed in North America, they wouldn't have been. I don't know. They're crazy, man. and the bushes are rattling like it's If they have to fend for themselves, And there's so much adaptability within the the natural world in quotes with the world of organisms but there are some like mathematical principles

1:32:28 One-fourth, really? Yeah. important to every civilization or every every culture that's ever existed the moon is often distance from the surface of earth it equals the diameter of the sun divided by the distance If you look at the, in fact, I talk to people about this. Saturn is. Because there's a thing called Bode's Law that based on the amount of mass that a planet has,

1:34:47 Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune. There's some solids within it, right? Yeah, it's just a storm It's got like a hexagon at the top of it. Graves of sand. I just, you assume every grain of sand is the same. Now it's just like. And, you know, those aren't uniform, but I mean, there are many things in nature that in like occult systems or in magic,

1:37:17 of you then you're going to be more inspired you're going to write better you're going to be on it, every song that you hear is related to answering whatever your question is. You know what? I mean, that's like an actual You're going to be sad. Wow. Have you ever noticed that when you're really, you know, like all of a sudden it's like, I mean, I used to, when I was traveling a lot, I first noticed this sort of phenomenon.

1:40:40 do is let me lean on the seat without giving me shit whatever and then the guy gets up gets off come and start chewing on your ankle it's gonna suck but you're but you're not. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? feeling love, in love, whatever you want to call it, minus a condition. situation. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there's also the question of, are you trying to have,

1:43:09 Look where you're at right now. It's just better. time talking and stimulating each other. Yes. I love the movie, too. I'm trying to fucking hold it. He makes his own gasoline. Where's he at? in Mansfield, Massachusetts It was like riots almost. That sucks. I think that was one of the last shows I ever worked. Listen, everybody in Massachusetts will punch you in the face, okay?

1:46:50 I'm not shocked. The referee? Well, the Buddhists say no snowflake ever falls in the wrong place. that works. How many people can you charge for murder? Man, all those primeval ways of dealing with things, all those horrible. and the other one in the other part of the woods. for war. Kind of like chess. Why not just go to war? Well, that's what the Mayans did

1:49:39 gauntlet you know that's from those tribes and they would get everybody out there old ladies This is good training for me. no matter whether your point is good or not. Yeah, what they did to Sarah, They made him stay like he was a college kid. He was eventually our cunt. I mean, it's just a part of the world. There's nothing perfect I'm saying that people who are high achievers,

1:51:51 So there's something about being a high achiever. You want to get somewhere else. fuckery. It's represented in cheating. It's represented in evil behavior. There's absolutely What is that? Because we elected someone to be in a position to control the traffic, and this is your solution? You're a cunt. for our society that's based on being though well it is very clear it is no it's not clear but I think ultimately

1:54:36 But have you seen that Alan Watts animation, the South Park animation? It's so good. But I'm saying on a social level. Well, we do celebrate it. No, they don't. It's a simplification, I think. The society rewards winning. Because it really sums up what you're talking about. And there would be composers who wrote only finales. of this grade system with graduate school you go out to join the world and then you get into some

1:58:12 a journey with a pilgrimage which had a serious purpose at the end and the thing was to get to Yeah, totally, you know? We have a corrupt system. We've got an ethical system that tells kids, be nice to each other, you know, blah, blah, blah, the golden rule. But as Duncan said, not if they're inside the system. That's the point. If you steal $100 million, nobody went to jail for

2:00:44 That maybe it's just that human beings should never be in that kind of a position of power. And it's whose interests don't align with those of human beings. people, they'll attack you. They'll go after you. my friends like me. Because I throw Westboro Baptist church. He spent word is because they just get so accustomed to it they get acclimated to madness they get too

2:03:28 what are you what are you mining for if you're mining for demons there's a part of this mind That's what it is. defense lab in Pennsylvania or Maryland. And she just went to prison. Like, if you look at that, they tuned into a higher frequency, It's a kidney stone in a serial killer. The change could be so drastic and radical that it would make your head spin

2:06:31 a country that we always think of as evil, He just lives inside the house. I really would. a cunt, but I don't know that guy. have jeopardized American safety by releasing military secrets. being creepy to he might have had sex with someone? Yeah. Even if she did get mad, which, by the way, and that girl shouldn't hang out with that guy anymore. Yeah, that's it, man.

2:09:30 I'm like, well. Exactly. It's great. goes spraying all in the wrong places and then you end up completely losing your fucking mind they giving these people this drug it's sinister man so they're giving them the drug just to erase Walls bend. So fucking Assange comes back here. people say, well, if everybody did that Yeah. No. No kidding. I love his show.

2:13:07 But you know To shave his head? He broke out the beard On the website It was the first time He ever did it It was on the podcast First, he's got a big beard now. He's got the Jesus beard. He broke out the beard on the website. but they said that LSD, if you cooked it in meat, it wouldn't last. There's a story about the witch hunts. I think it's a late frost. I think it's a late frost that, but I think you're right. I think it's a late frost. That's the issue.

2:15:13 After a writer discovered the U.S. had spiked the bread with LSD as part of an experiment. has uncovered evidence suggesting that the CIA Close. Oh, they did that with, there's plenty of videos where they did that with soldiers. And that's one of the things they tried. just to be able to buy this cabin in the woods, live there, and plot the demise of technology.

2:17:05 Ted Kaczynski. and afterwards people came to interview me, I'd say Yeah, here it is. Obtain clusters of inter-correlations factors. Hold on a second. I'm not convinced. But we could say the same thing about all sorts of politicians and leaders around the world who kill people over an idea that they take too far. if you're that, you've got that in you. And we know that, you know, kinks of all sorts get

2:21:03 and the Murray Study was the Murray Center. You're right that he sees, like, oh, my God, this can only go one way. a bunch of good stuff, to try to change I recommend it. Very interesting. Snopes is great. It's a heartbreaker, though. Let's snope it. Snopes is great. Now that you mention it, though, I have read about that. It's really hard to be either or because there's a lot of crazy shit going on.

2:23:19 with the official story. a little wishy-washy to protect terrorism you're from terrorism yeah well or depending on what side and they want to get you, or whatever these fucking games are came out today whoa and you just see this really like like, he seems so affable. He's, like, the sweetest murderer. Well, because that wasn't my job. And we don't see them.

2:26:49 about? The stock market's going up. That's why they? So-so. The stock market's going up. i it's hard for me to swallow the fact that he doesn't have the balls to come out and maybe he Away personal liberties? There will never be an Arab Spring here because the powers that be here are too smart. they can't play those games or they're not predisposed to do that. They don't want to

2:29:47 Neutralize those a little bit so we can keep playing the game. I mean, they're constructed from human beings and they don't like human beings. You know what I mean? of people who all think they're doing the right thing where everything's going to calm down becomes more people more people figure out the atom they split that bitch they fucking start Complexify.

2:32:51 what who knows what that means but it might indicate that we're like we the the the flow of time itself we're just perceiving it the wrong way we're like actually what we think is the past and all of a sudden we're all this the And that's essentially what we're doing. I mean our whole Why won't you breed? They don't want you killing babies. that you hear politicians talking about

2:35:32 I think it's much more prevalent than you think. Sex without consequences. You do. No. It's not, it's not, I mean, I, the only time I would entertain the idea would be the Megan, cause I bet she's fucking cool Yeah, sure, fist me. But, yeah, Megan McCain's kind of cool, actually. I was thinking of Megyn Kelly, I think. And then they open their... Is that Megyn Kelly?

2:37:38 and your gym shorts, the blue ones you guys might have a fucking that chicken he says that and and you'll see the woman's face Before we continue, the law symbol is found. I'm not... Yeah, maybe it's like a thing. What does that mean? and the other guy just referred to it. that's a weird thing they don't they don't yeah they they have the cloaca which is this hole where

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