Joe Rogan Experience #472 — Shane Smith Transcript

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0:00 Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out! and not slowing down anytime soon. No, I love you. Yeah. That's a good one, though. why would that possibly be easy? That's like World War III happening up there. We'll just fuck it up even more. Both are being destroyed by the Russians and the Americans. Now new passages like that are opening up. really had a freshwater year-round port. And so that's a big deal for them. But same thing for

3:49 Well, yeah. No, this is not yours. And it's so fascinating how over the last few years being emitted into the environment in order But because oil is so expensive now that it's become, you know, economically feasible. It could be tar sands. It's very, very bad because they take the whole Lake Athabasca sort of watershed and they use the water to boil out the oil.

5:54 Yeah, that's what's involved. over the last decade or so. fuck, Fracking isn't anything new. about anything that causes some sort of These other people that almost universally are not financially successful, on Sea Level Rise last season, the actual piece. whatever. uh, He's like a NASA guy. continue for the next 500 years, global warming, but, or at least, but we just slow down the pace

9:39 a drought here in California. Everybody's like global warming, global warming. And in Texas, it's not happening. And that's bad because they're fucking all of humanity and the future And it's the no-nonsense mentality. And right now they're not. It's a huge problem. look you could say world war ii you know nazis bad yeah no very bad people you know i would say

12:57 in the first place. So anyway, what I'm trying to get at is, I think that a lot of the mentality, people are used for economic purposes, and that I find insidious. I forget what his exact title and rank was. don't realize they're a part of the hustle. It's so insidious that you could figure out a way But I don't understand. What if it's 5%? But even if it's 1% true, don't you want to hedge your bet?

15:50 They're not even looking into it. fucking cattle which was texas for the longest period of time you know dying because of this because Al Gore was for it, therefore I was against it. So you sit there and you say, look, it's gotten so bad now that even people who have been deniers for so long are saying, you know what, fuck, okay, what the fuck are we going to do?

17:25 Yeah. Yeah. Tohon used to have And it was just just get in there Almost all the fish are dead. and people still say, fuck you, Joe. Well, I think that's the problem. I came up actually hating Tipper Gore because she was censorship, et cetera, et cetera. came out freaking out about the environment why because all the shit that he learned in politics

20:36 And by the way, isn't that a great fucking triumph for deniers? Well, when you talk about Al Gore now, is anyone says anything we don't like, You know? We actually got to see fact that they spend money on propaganda trying to influence. Why isn't there more fucking outrage about the NSA listening to every fucking phone call, can do about it. They don't feel like they have any real legitimate power. They can express their

23:02 I didn't know we were on the TV. That's why I feel like it's a metaphor for his job. I think they are. Yeah, no cops. And they can triangulate like gunshot sounds and they got like cameras everywhere. Minority Report. It's been a success because the crime rate dropped. If that's not the definition of a police state, I don't know what is. tech conference and there's all these CEOs and

25:58 fuck you. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Anyway, we got into this fight. He's a traitor. you're exactly right you're 100 right the tech is so pervasive that you can't fuck with it. They, like, if you go to Camden, it's already happened. And you're just like, holy fuck. And these people drove by and got video of it, put the video online, and now the cops are looking for these people.

28:37 That can't happen. But here's the issue. what's going on everywhere all the time is terrifying to us because we don't possess it. No one. They're going to be blocking technology. and that bottleneck is going to be money. We're not going to know how to quantify it. a bunch of things i'm sure incompetence i'm sure shitty programming probably sabotage let's be

31:39 Get the fuck out of here. tell them what it is and what happened. where they made the majority of their cash. Anything. It was a dark web sort of to your house. Correct. Anything. Anything. Now he's 20 stories down in the CIA building. whatever the fuck you want to have happen on the second economy. the librarian, the, you know, the freaky dude sleeping in the corner, they're all fucking FBI,

34:36 one of the things that silk road did was it was like a craigslist for like hitman and shit so he Allegedly. all on this sort of dark web shit that was going on. Oh, I'm like, what the fuck? all the secondary, quote unquote, gray electronics, the seconds, the stolen IP that's coming out of China. I agree with you. See, this is the deal. in Costa Rica.

37:48 It was like $2.5 billion. Who took that money? So what do they do with it? Now we're gonna Wow And they How hilarious is that? They use terrorism. Realpolitik, zero-sum game politics. There is a winner and there is a loser and I'm going to be because I feel like that's what's going on. Here's the NSA. fucking complete crazy person I met him in 98 I mean, what we're dealing with right now is a few people that have this power.

40:56 What's the direction? And as this whole thing grows and expands, it becomes more powerful and more prevalent and riots in Southeast Asia, riots in South America, riots around the world by Gen Y because say, okay, fuck, At a certain point in time, it's like, what is our economy? giving shortage yeah and then somehow then they made money. What does that mean?

43:58 everything's terrible and no one can get a job? who were, you know, benighted by God, And there's more economic disparity today than there was then. And so the only way of getting more carrots was to have more land, so I took over your competition i understand if one person is better at their job they should make more than another Let's say a million dollars so we can all, I'm going to put a million dollars on black.

46:48 Oh, I won. the amount of money being exchanged. They steal it from the taxpayers. Like thrown away in what way? It's a long story, but basically to try to stop And by the way, guess who collects the fees? And where the fuck is the money going? It's our government and it's our money. another problem in our modern age is okay this is a fucking huge problem yet we can't we feel

50:31 holy fuck, dudes, I'm going to fucking talk about shit And it's guys like you and guys like me and guys like, by the way, And I think people that are in positions of power are going to be forced to realize this. you sell your soul to profit off it then you're not us but for right now anybody jockeying into I don't think there's anything that says that people have to capitalize in every single fucking loophole and fuck everybody over along the way.

52:42 It became habit. what happens in every form of government essentially there's good people that eventually It's going to be We're two guys sort of sitting at the nice end of the spectrum saying, hey, it's got to fucking change. But what happens at a certain point in time Not corny. What did you do wrong? It's one of the reasons why human beings hung out together, went to the pub together,

55:34 What I find interesting, and every time I do Yet, like that's millions and millions of, disappoint you you had to get yourself uh to the polls and hope that all your bitching and moaning Vice is a distribution of information device that's never been available before. That was like radical journalism on television, on mainstream television, just a few decades ago.

57:26 You guys, David Cho would be sitting right next to David Koresh as they burnt that fucking It's true. Well, they just know that I'm a lightning rod. For sure. and the people i hung out with were derelicts and then fighters it was all just chaos like from the You know more about more shit than anyone I've ever met. enormous amounts, my perspective on the world has changed radically.

1:00:32 my job is the lightning rod. I found a door. And, you know, you're going to visit slave camps where they think they're in North Korea, but they're actually in Russia. Yeah, see, you're going to all these places we'll hit the switch and we'll broadcast. It's actually a global problem in the fact that we've overfished everything, They move the whole pod in one go.

1:02:27 The United States is killing dolphins? Fucking seals. There's no more fucking fish. Then we just said, fucking take all the fish. People need more fish? Canned tuna fish. thing and the yolk. I'm like, how much does a When you start saying that everybody has to have that one thing Tuna, right? Wow. People have a bit more bucks or whatever. Have you seen that?

1:06:15 And it doesn't seem like there's any light because if we don't do it, then the Japanese will do it. It's disturbing that you don't hear more of it And you don't want to come home And have a lot of. It's very hard. Life is hard. Yeah. Yeah. We're not going to wake up. Yeah, that's a weird thing about us, isn't it? Yeah. David Cho. White Plains Charlie might have weighed 50 pounds.

1:09:16 And he was probably, when I met him, probably deep in his 60s. And they would hit rock bottom and just scrape together enough money. of money come on man come on man back me back me me up on this. And he was just addicted to it. do that? Well, I forget. I'm going to misquote this. I'm going to butcher it, but there's a definition of insanity, which is we go to bed every night with the same thing facing us and

1:11:28 You had another bad day. He died. those motherfucking Taliban and Al-Qaeda, and then I'm going to fucking die and go to heaven. Like, they're dealing with an... I think Turkey The people that are still there, I think, are the townies of the world. Where did you grow up? 15 000 years ago they have the echoes of that retarded civilization but thought the world was

1:14:36 You know, we're all in it together. The big one in Iraq, the Sunni and Shia so and so the people of the book, et cetera, et cetera. Because we look at them and say, oh, you're going to get virgins? Apparently what they mean when they say Look the fact of the matter is Oh, that bit. Hey! Right. I just typed. In the future, you won't even have and get an encyclopedia. Ran outside with his library card. Right.

1:17:19 There was one thing I was going to say about. I like to play this game. I mean, you could borrow my food. But we would help each other. Correct. You couldn't really house. But, you know, we would help each other. Or 7 billion. we hide a lot of these things because of you know we want to have jobs and we want to have you know because I'm a comedian,

1:19:37 But for the average person, the average person with a fucking corporate job can't make a YouTube video about doing DMT and getting blown by but did we talk about this before i don't know because my brain is softening but I've been a bad boy. Mitt Romney, is here's a guy who didn't ever do anything. off, and you fucking cum-s you fucking whacked off and you fucking

1:21:39 And nor do I want to. what I would like from my representation well, you fucking admit to everything. But not even him. The guy running His character is suspect. I've never done that. We all do human shit. New, yeah. it's all these commercials and all this bullshit it's a rigged popularity contest between two Or they usurp the power. She's got a good shot.

1:25:15 She's sick. Well, she's an older woman. I don't want to get caught out. No, that's what he said. So look How old was he Because he was a bit For the TV He was the best Best president fucking serving in the 1900s. So the fact that he was probably the greatest president of the last century goes out the window. And that was, and he, that was the foundation

1:28:07 socrates said this and then that was the foundation of democracy he didn't really ruin it for anybody Do you think the future presidents would definitely video but what do you mean by heat bad way bad way a bad way saying that the Exactly. Whereas Clinton, everyone's like, get the fuck away from him. Maybe you would maybe you would you're a fat guy with a giant penis nose

1:31:12 they were they were pushed for impeachment sex with men sex with women uh uh you know scandals I haven't watched that show. and I'm going to do this whenever. And it's insane. No one's blameless. Well, that's, I think, also one of the reasons why nobody wants to get behind the Clintons Yeah, Whitewater. Death of Vince Foster. What are you doing over there? Death of Vince Foster is a very interesting book that I read.

1:34:00 When you commit suicide, boom, the gun goes flying, your fucking body spasms. Well, I want to watch that show. and you go, oh, fuck. they think about a guy who goes after like, oh, they might all be murderers. Exactly. MENA, Arkansas was where Barry Seale, who worked for the cia was dropping all the cocaine and then laid their body on the train tracks.

1:36:44 The independent investigation shit and then this guy Barry Seal gets in his fucking pocket. There's all these pictures of him with all these South American guys, Sorry, no offense, Arkansasansas folks i'm sure there's of the United States. Cause when he was in power, it was a fucking No, no, no. Why the fuck would you want that fucking job? The idea that any one person should be like that

1:39:51 Yeah. Because if you look at like George Bush Sr., he was like a backroom bureaucrat, but he was head of the CIA. Like we get to a point where nobody wants to be president. Whenever I do political pieces most perfect Yoda, Buddha angel that made it to age 45 and never did a crime and never smoked a get purple faced sweat flying off their head talking about the nonsense that is obamacare

1:42:16 this is like the last week I don't know. go off for hours about this. Poor motherfuckers 100%. I'm going to say you know what I lost If they did something to Obama could you imagine if they had obama if they did something to obama I mean, we've never had an American president assassinated by anyone in a foreign country. And the closest to it was blaming, or from a foreign country,

1:45:02 You're not even from my country. It's so fascinating, man. I don't get the politics. He's pro-Russia. He's anti-West. They grew up on all that, being American gangsters fucking, you know. It's Saudi Arabia who run, is run by America. But do you remember when Yeltsin would come over and he would hang out? Right. Fuck you. fuck about America. I don't give a fuck about your sanctions. And this is why we're going

1:48:36 Well, Crimea has been their only freshwater port since Peter the Great. So it's the only place they can get to the rest of the world And what happened is they did the same thing in Georgia. Nothing we can do. Yeah, Russia said we can't take New Jersey. They decide they need this. Economics runs everything. whatever I buy, that's the real power. Because if you fucking start voting with dollars, with Unilever, with Procter & Gamble, with Ford, with GM, with Exxon, then you're going to move policy.

1:52:17 Well, do you remember when you were talking about the gas hike? socking money out of people? We couldn't dig into that then I don't mean that kind of dike, Brian. The easy stuff. if we have a problem with supply, because that's why Al-Qaeda exists. all comes from it all comes from saudi arabia because of oil and because we force them to to A fairly short period of time is when you look at human history.

1:55:51 Abu Dhabi. They've built New York. Went from nothing. You know, one day if we ever found Dubai. What happened? Whoops. Paper tabs right here, right to the right of you. build weapons like that anymore. Really? Can you do me a favor and look up Bronze Age armor slash Bronze Age weaponry? It's definitely not my number one sphere of expertise. modern day weapons.

1:59:35 because we figured out bronze kind of sucks. I don't want to get too far off on this because I'm not. that were pretty advanced. Our podcast is... Show that they're just like him? That's fucked up. believing that his way was the only way. I'm going to put up my hand because I know we wrote a lot of stuff what i'm saying is he was going out there being a bag i'm saying i don't i don't try to look at

2:02:28 Just, you know, he's a lesson. What are you talking about? It's like screws and bolts, I mean, I've seen the ads, just owns this part guy, well it's his company I was like why or something like the advertising spots for like a grand. This guy was super smart because he's like, How about Trudeau, right? Have you done him here? And he put on these gigantic events in Vegas.

2:05:24 They had done it full blast. Like he put the pedal to the metal spent millions of bucks that he robbed We'll have a bunch of gambling junkies associate our site with a good place to gamble. So he started the whole... this big fucking slide afterwards but everybody sort of hopes and prays that this guy gets his used the nonsense to make his money. Oh, I see.

2:07:40 It's fucking powdered asparagus. Yeah. Because it's 4.30 in the morning. Yeah, 10 years is a long-ass time. Let's make that. Trudeau doesn't get out of jail and throw heat at him. and wearing fucking overalls and pretending And it was one of those weird TV channels too. 10 years. I ain't got no time for that. legitimate because of a awful but amazing Tom Cruise movie.

2:10:45 And no, the term pool doesn't mean pocket inherently connected to this derelict bachelor Well, there's a lot of people who know a lot more about pool He played Minnesota Fats. And I was like, where's that from? But you could tell he couldn't really play. So you're going to say that. Mike Siegel, who's a multiple-time world champion and also was a lefty like Tom Cruise.

2:12:35 Wow. When I was a young kid, there's a lot of pool So she would win. Plays almost exclusively with an open bridge. And they have the best fundamentals out of almost any pool player. I suck at both at this point in my life. 1989, 1990, 1991. Come on. It's fun. I'm just not that consistent. complete concentration, whether it's martial arts, whether it's pool, whether it's archery.

2:15:42 Right. It's only worse. And he was a real unique player because he started playing so young that he couldn't reach over the It's perfect. None of them ever get it right. I'm going to come back now. but the Color of Money, I mean, it was a good move for pool. See, that was the thing about The Hustler, too. Who actually takes care of him. and all these people that

2:18:50 there's like a gentleness to the stroke of a real He goes, I drink to get fucked up. that we're doing Jackie Gleason. By the way, it's like Burt Lancaster did the same thing with The Leopard in Italy, No, no, no. Oh, okay, okay. When I lived in New York, I had a friend who, one of his friends knew the guy. and him and Nixon were buddies where they've got a crashed flying

2:21:40 to replicate the thing that he saw. I want to live there. All right, buddy. I spread my own fucking Wikipedia information. There was a time when you could say that phrase. There was another size, jacking, extremely serious, armchair UFO researcher I like the story. You know what I want? I wonder if they really do have something. I mean, that would be, I would wish one person who was legitimately intelligent, who was dying, would spill the beans.

2:24:30 I don't agree with that because, look, they kept a secret when they were making the Manhattan Project. Secrets totally can be kept, Secrets can be kept. I like the movies though where it's just a given. with saving democracy. Has a girl ever squirted on you before? I love you guys. All right. The world is sinking and modern day slavery. I mean, but one place where it's really an issue is Detroit.

2:27:49 The largest export is scrap? But number one by a long way is scrap. We have a lot of shit coming up. Yeah. Okay. the world, of the nation. Yeah, you got me wrong. You don't want to go get the Cuba. The last thing you do is go to Cuba and talk about how you're going to Cuba. show. I can help you there. Someday I must get five tweets a day of like, I'm trying to get to my cove.'re just trying to get to the fucking cove i must get

2:30:52 retirement or some point in time where That's what you've got to find. I know you are. But I do want to get to the cove. They're trying to sleep with the knowledge of Liberia's General Buck Naked running around when he'd killed how many fucking kids and eaten their hearts. Do you ever consider that, that everybody has this sort of crazy role in this weird machine that is life,

2:32:54 but I'm not any different than I was five years ago You have kids. And so now I'm like, you know what? You're a regular human who lived a regular life, who got to a point in your life where something mattered to you much It's not even selfishness, really. because I want my kids They don't really get their shit together. You know, when you have kids, everything becomes like, well, I won, but guess what?

2:37:15 you seventy eight thousand dollar hammers that's bullshit i don't want to fucking pay my taxes for because then you're like, The fact that it's even a debate fucking wear my fancy jeans when they looked at climate change at at messaging the fact that okay if there's a fucking loophole, And I was talking to the global scientific but then they hear 150,000 new jobs were created last quarter.

2:39:48 Like there's scientists out there that are crazy for sure. So, this is probably bullshit, but I was at Keep going. the majority of their energy is still left in there over 90 Right. Well, I'm hoping along the way he doesn't create something even more fucked up while he's trying to burn that uranium. We're fucked. At least they try. They're not Exxon.

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