Joe Rogan Experience #483 — Mark Kendall Transcript

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0:00 Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out! Thanks for having me, man. It's awesome. I mean, you know, I'm definitely capable of playing, like, That means, and it doesn't even mean going fast. It's almost confusing how many different. but I could win making the eight ball or the nine ball. For folks who don't know, ten ball or nine ball, either one of them, He gives people, like, crazy games.

2:51 whereas he has to make the two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. the five and six ball in ten ball like you know it's crazy but it really is not going to show up if he's breaking the way he does You know, and another guy is a dry breaker, but he plays like God too. that almost every break he's making one, if not two. Don't complain because some other guy's great.

5:12 This guy is brick. and that there's just levels and levels and levels to this stuff. But you thought there was a chance at that more than there was a chance. You know, usually the guy comes out and says, oh, how are you feeling, and all that kind of stuff. than me ran faster threw harder You know what I mean? It seems like if you're really— maybe gain some strength in my arm.

8:28 But I didn't do any – I didn't really train. Yeah, everywhere. and getting to see the improvement that some fighters have had And they're throwing a ball at him. And he's catching it with one hand and throwing it back while he's balancing. He did jujitsu, judo, kickboxing. I bet it would really help. Exercise helps your nerves. It's a great way to do it.

11:40 need to be addicted to that yeah it's easy to be addicted to bad things. i was a beer drinker and you know go ahead and throw it low on the food chain but i got and help people that are struggling And then that becomes the thing that you become impulsive about. When I was 14 years old, I was literally in a band, It wasn't just compulsive energy. that so I have this ear.

15:28 I was just singing the melody you know what I mean but then I started being able to pick up the chords on my guitar and I was very young like 10 you And he was teaching me like Tom Dooley and, you know, the stuff I didn't want to really be tom dooley hang down your head But to have that natural, I don't know, Ben knows the way he does because it said it on a piece of paper somewhere you know what i mean so it's something

17:59 Right. can many times manifest itself in addiction just think an addict is just an addict i really don't think the music has that much to do with it I found that in a few instances, this friend of mine, he was totally, every time he would get close to being signed, having a great opportunity, he would just sabotage it with alcohol. it's mind-blowing um that somebody fights their whole life to get somewhere and they get there

20:58 I don't know what you think. only people that ever got that kind of attention in the past were kings i mean even the leaders of all normal things but to be on a fucking stage playing guitar and 20 000 people are going, wah! That's alien. 300,000? I just went out and totally handled it. is going on stage in front of two folks. of the the dealing with the pressure the reason why so many rock stars can't handle it or actors

24:24 just sit in the We just got this cool thing and you want to share it with them. You're killing me with this stupid fucking stroke you're doing to And then you go, oh, look, a shithead. You could use them, They don't even realize it. but it doesn't change But what they do do is they change their very essence, their very energy that they're spreading out to the universe.

27:23 And that's who they are. Right, right. And if that's the case, if it's defensible, then I should probably work on whatever aspect presents itself in the martial arts analogy presents itself when you're dealing with a lot of different people And it was devastating to them, to the both of them. Those people, and I've even, as a band, we've talked about it, don't give them any energy whatsoever.

30:06 I'm still going to be. They probably had a failed musical attempt when he plays. Exactly. Winners don't have time to be fucking haters on YouTube. Trying to like, I'll show them. But made that mistake before, just thinking I was being cute, trying to like, But that's a completely different situation. How do you deal with that? And that's that the insane people are running the asylum.

32:14 The only thing that's not a comedian is the guy that books the room. They want to be something. which is a very nice comedy club. Have you ever been totally just like booed off stage? No, you know what he was doing is he got away from the whole impression thing I've done two of them. But the audience knows what they're getting into. sticky and for a guy like that to go on stage with no material he got booed up because of it

34:58 He's very good at impressions, yeah. Look, I know that every time I bombed, it was because I sucked. It's a common line that comedians use. It could be some craziness. who's singing and doing backflips and fucking lighting his asshole on fire. Right, right. had to go on after, like, say, You know, you're going to see rock. You go to a comedy club, like the store on Sunset Strip,

37:38 just as nuts for Dylan as they did anybody else I mean so the people there Denmark. I did things there You know, so I went out and I'm watching like, I go, it's not like I'm Eddie Van Hill. Nobody's going to know me. Oh, so he's asking for It's kind of gross. Everybody already knows it. and their tour manager used to be our It's like 2,000 people screaming.

41:13 I literally, a picture comes in my mind from hearing a song. and then when ZZ Top But I get fans. mmm that happens with comedy I'm you know I'm not really I can always kind of speak for myself on And, you know, I'm going, whoa, man, these guys are, you know, the singer Roth was blowing a tube inside of this guy's drums. So and that's what happened, though.

44:26 And a year before this, then they would sell these bands off to big labels. That's such an important lesson for young people who are thinking about doing something. Really? know like i'm six years before i was on the forum stage in Los Angeles, I was watching Ted Nugent swinging through this arena. I want to meet that dude. But I hunt. He's got a lot of really intense ideas when it comes to hunting

47:09 throw on stranglehold just out of nowhere and just always picks me up well check this out five years know but i love that and and anyway so what does that mean what do you mean by that i'm not sure No, just for me. everywhere he goes on the stage ted will be there coming out of speakers you know you have monitors you know He's going, could you feel that rock and roll spirit?

49:34 He was like, bang, gang, gang, gang, barbecue. I saw him do the national anthem at a football game. He's done a lot. Boiled squirrel. My friend Steve Rinella cooked a squirrel that he shot. My friend Steve Rinella is the host of this show called Meat Eater. like fitness and... Oh, by the way, I wanted to tell you something. A little song about you.

52:28 I'm just kidding. Yeah, don't chicken out. From Los Angeles, baby Down to Mexico Hey Joe. In this busy, busy land. Sorry, dude. your head when you sit down and write you just start strumming and like how does no i i have don't be lazy if you have this huge idea like at midnight or something just grab your phone or I learned that the hard way. It's called Rodney Dangerfield's Story?

57:19 He hated this straight gig, you know, of being a siding salesman yeah or whatever you know uh He goes, just pick any name, just make something up. Like a puppet? this monster career and movies and you know supposedly uh the story goes when he was asked to do Caddyshack, they said action, and he didn't even know what the action meant. Wow. Several times.

1:00:15 I'm pretty sure that hit there. My keyboard player, Michael Lardy, he's like an almanac. Bathrobe and slippers. that he felt most comfortable on stage but he really felt that they say he was a really tortured soul from from like his childhood like stemmed from that. It's actually a brilliant story because it's such a fighting heart story. That's how, that's how crucial it was.

1:03:35 he was blackballed that was it really carson was so pissed off that he literally blacked but he didn't want rodney on the show well time elapsed Yeah. But his idea was going back to school broke, like a total loser. and then they incorporated the two ideas, yeah you know musician himself he really liked to um in fact our producer of our very first album He was an amazing dude. He was a very big music fan. Yeah. Musician himself.

1:05:38 Yeah, so he was around musicians a lot. 100%. You're not going to be at your best I don't go out to just entertain people. hours in between you know the show i mean you're waiting you're traveling and you're doing all this I don't think they do that anymore. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yes, the preparation is the most difficult aspect. Preparation is everything. Even in pool, I think Shane Van Boning, there's a reason he's number one.

1:08:49 and Shane played by himself for hours. I mean, he's just a machine. and that's how you become successful. Your attitude, like that attitude Yes. I mean, you are Mark Kendall. if i want to go see this crazy motherfucker named ari shafir you're audience got a good show because the audience should just be happy that they're there like i got in to play guitar is because wow you can make up stuff you know and i want to continue to break

1:12:13 With some bands, they reach a certain point, and then all anybody wants to hear is their old stuff. what they want right unless we were just going on a tour to play our new album i mean that that's It's not like if we're standing over there playing the song for the same guy over and When I hear us on the radio, even today, I get tingles, you know. sometimes people will request they like want to hear something again you know they that they're

1:14:45 now maybe they're not going to come back and do that give you that same look again next year It's fucking brilliant. You know, I mean, it's pretty cool. I mean, that drummer, Peter Criss, ace yeah you know what i mean just uh noodling in the air and i i just think he should get some When they first got their record deal, Rodney Bingenheimer actually introduced them in Pasadena, at the Pasadena Civic.

1:18:10 And no matter what it is, I just think even if you hate each other or whatever. you know, the guys that have been in the band for a long time, Oh, we got two drummers with the same cat thing. They replaced Peter Criss with another dude who had... He used to be in a band called Black and Blue years and years ago. See, ladies and gentlemen, this is the problem with having a podcast like this.

1:20:30 that stuff fucks with your bladder. Um, I, uh, just announced today that I'm going to be, Dave Taylor is going to be on it. brothers and and uh you know he played when he was up and coming he was playing with a lot of people Right on. There's another pool term. You're winning. But I don't think they could. fighting experience and a true true innovator but to say that a guy like hennon barrow who's the ufc bantamweight

1:25:23 that was throwing kicks the way Bruce Lee was. I mean, I'm a huge, huge Bruce Lee fan. and get to that level, and then you would see. He could get away from me, too. He sort of did it. That's something you would never see. Yeah, yeah. If you look at Jackie Gleason. He's a real pool player. I don't even know. But everybody says that Jackie Gleason was probably the the all-time best guy

1:29:06 went into pool over golf because there's so much more money in golf yeah i don't really have the He goes, I wouldn't make a very good talent agent or whatever. and just had a dad who was also completely obsessed by it almost every walk of life when I see somebody I mean, what else can you ask from yourself? I just can't believe how. I'm like calling friends.

1:32:14 he knows what these guys go through and stuff you know yeah i just thought that that was really neat I didn't know you'd been around that long. a place called executive billiards in white plains new york still there okay but now it's like a I was going to reach out to him, and he died before. And I reach out to struggling addicts. We weren't close friends or anything,

1:34:56 Maybe, maybe. no alcohol, no drugs. But he had that I wonder if it's from pool itself. I have a muscle that kind of pokes out a little bit That I have to deal with Maybe I need Rolfing? going on when they're doing it. just by working my neck. sports massage and someone who really understands the the connective tissue you could relieve a lot to bring the temperature down like 150 below zero.

1:38:15 everything dilates, You know I don't take With some kind of That's number one Like eating healthy food is one of the best things you could do for yourself. healthy vegetables, clean vegetables, eating cooked and uncooked, raw, blended juices, a lot of it is because of a lack of green leafy vegetables, healthy vegetables, organic I'm writing it now.

1:40:20 But you're not looking to just live. You could use some C. They deliver healthy meals to your house pre-packaged. yeah it's it's the problem is that french fries taste great. Now, with your diet, I mean, okay, you know, vegetables. My friend Mike Dolce calls them reward meals or earned meals. me in the stomach or something and then it's like I make myself forget about it like you know four

1:43:02 but French fries from like McDonald's, Burger King, It's not old school taste. Yeah. and stuff like that. That's badass. Well, I'm sure. and high in polyunsaturated fat, He's just one of these health chef dudes from England or something. at, I mean, if you think you're getting one of those cream filled, And then if you want on Sunday to throw a And occasionally throw in some, but you could also make healthy choices as far as like what you throw in.

1:47:29 grease and stuff. Yeah, yeah. with lightweights but i'm kind of if i was in if i was a hardcore addict i would be at the point You know, I have done a little bit. I practiced some yoga just on a video, like watching this chick and just doing stuff she's doing. People would be more relaxed. He goes, Mark, you need to move. need to stretch you need to walk you need to do something you're getting older

1:50:11 Take chances. No. I've had some of the worst pain in my back and neck from reading or from writing. It's never from lifting. Yeah. It's called officialgreatwhite.com. This place is legendary. It's just such a known legendary place, you know. but um you know there's a lot of local bands playing during the day and stuff and um you know It's all free.

1:53:57 Everybody's been there. I used to go watch bands. I don't really know why. or whatever you know that's incredible so yeah it's it's nuts you know the the history it goes Hasn't the mystique of thing is different now. When I was a kid, it would literally be this much of an event. through all these things that he's talking about which is playing with guys that don't really play that good,

1:58:33 that people play music and not machines you know what i mean i know what you're saying yeah well But it's not really a complaint. you know, you know, I'm not bitter or anything. It sure does. Today, for a comic especially, boy, you don't need that at all. Like, hmm. You know, there's definitely a lot of that. to record and all that kind of promotion.

2:01:38 were yeah especially haley's dale was amazingly bad and and they even speak about it on the million records we're gonna owe you20 million. That's insane. to break out of this club scene, A lot of artists are impulsive and I mean, they might sign 100, and one of them might become great white. I haven't read the piece, but I'm glad she wrote something like that because it'll school

2:04:26 walking around I know me, like I talked about earlier, the artist so I go out and buy a ZZ Top or hopefully he'll go see it live But the environment is so beneficial in so many other ways. There's no way. We are grateful for our fans, and I always tell them that. are endless and and how you personally affected these people yeah Yeah. I mean, if our music has involved the people's life like that, because I have, again, I can relate.

2:08:06 Thanks, Joe. Yeah, I'd love to, man. Right. We'll be back tomorrow with one of the co-founders of Reddit. Alex Ohanian. and 30 free days of Audible service.