Joe Rogan Experience #489 — Liam & Dylan Resnekov Transcript

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0:00 Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out! Correspondence. We're going to have to move these things. it's usually like you suck your mother's a whore or something like that i didn't Yes, yes. Yeah. you were a motorcycle racer who stopped doing motorcycle racing because he had too many We had one of our boys last week in Quebec, He was the only Aussie to win in the prelim thing.

3:23 Well, I was going to say you should look up, in Canada, like how MMA has gone down in Australia and it's shot up in Canada. character you know an everyman sort of guy yeah i see what you're saying well you need someone who think that's affecting the scene a little bit. Maybe. There's a few. who's just an amazing fighter, Like my cunt. There's not a lot of opportunity out there at the moment, unfortunately.

6:24 He fought over there for quite a long time, right? He's had a bunch of back things. So it was in our blood. what they used to do with me they used to no you'll be fine You've got to understand like South Africans, They just gave it a shot. You kick it off, what do you mean? and then go find it later. Cape Town's not that mad. I meant, you know, like we were driving back from a night out,

9:29 And cars. And I told my other friends, they want a nicer place in Johannesburg. But if you look at Charlize Theron, So Cape Town's safe, fairly. Yeah, they did this thing on some television show where they were talking about South Africa and all the carjackings. My dad says, you know, if we go to South Africa, he's driving. You got to understand, it's like Brazil. People go,

12:03 It's $1 Australian to 11 Rand So when I go there Pay for everyone well it's we're from actually funny enough um we're talking about accents nobody this whole Oh, he does. I don't think he's, I mean, within the people that we know, he's not that well known. ass, say, I mean, in America, it's not tough, it's not funny, like, right. Think about our accent. Like if I say us say,

13:49 I don't want to name the names, like American comics, Scottish, right? Nobody in Australia we get. Every time from an American. Yeah, it's pretty far. Yeah, I've done it twice and it's a fucking brutal flight. You know that awkward moment when you're just like walking out of one of those doors, Like, we're driving it, and I'm looking at the car, that oftentimes people come from Europe or from England or what have you,

16:20 Oh, you're very excited. The left side, your sword arm mean our whole trip we basically spend the whole time just i mean you guys you guys in america Sherman Oaks, I didn't think we got Starbucks. It's the greatest. I still like him. He's nuts. Everyone knows it that's filming it. Does he live here? Oh, I mean, he'd when we were up in Canada, When I talk to George outside of the Octagon, he speaks exactly like that.

19:34 George doesn't have those kind of handlers. It was mostly him just kicking ass, you know. Right, when he's in trouble. And the Hulk comes flying in The fucking movie is over. We were watching it in Vegas. The Mark, Here's another piece Bruce is a gay name. How the fuck do you go water skiing, fighting, racing bikes. Yeah. No, I love bull riding. Bull riding is good hobbits, that's the funny thing. No,

22:11 dude, It had been reconstructed for 10 times a year like just always little things just stupid things you know but but they It's a bit intimidating looking at it. Because we were in the academy together. And it's a very hard thing for people that are like, Really good guy. I got him tickets for the fights. But one thing I was going to say is looking on the internet, I want to know how you deal with this.

24:30 just shutting down making shit up about you well eventually you realize that the only type of whether it's posting on a message forum or whether it's making a blog. And so if that person reads it, like, no, I'm not. They just wouldn't say it to him. What are you saying? he's got personal sovereignty. personally, if they don't have a real beef with you, they just decide

27:02 multiple-time world champion. I have had fucking conversation with someone like, hey, what's up? that guy's a fucking fake. He's a this, he's a that. People love to just chop people down. Well, he actually, I mean, you can talk about it instead of me asking you, Because he got really knocked out and he was unconscious. problem is this anonymity. nonsense, some fake account or fake name rather. Anonymity with sensitive information and insults,

29:51 It is. I mean, Tito Ortiz is probably one of the last guys you get immune to it. within the next decade or two Yeah. It's funny. And the psychologist friend of mine, Jonathan, Jonathan back, he's, uh, he's on the, on the other show. And he, um, he took him a while to open definitely gonna be a lot of people that judge your thoughts and your opinions and how you express

32:39 oh my God, you could hold it against me to the end of time. Because we all learn, Those are the way. You learn on your own But when you fail online, man, you know, I mean, torturing this fucking guy and he's he's And he's fought again since then, right? He just, like a lot of us back then before the UFC came along, And then I started Muay Thai, and I'm like, oh, God damn it, kicking the legs.

34:57 my mom wasn't very happy about it well most people have no idea how helpless they are on the ground Well, he's got a bouncer to hit you now, so I'm going to avoid him. he, It's too easy, near your brother in the face. When you get someone Ready set And all of a sudden They they're essentially a dead man. We had to see these guys learn. ridiculous. But when you hit the ground, they don't have the ability to relax. They just don't,

37:34 It's a totally different style of moving, conserving your energy. He's a fucking animal, man. And then he gets crushed by Marco Huas and Hoyce Gracie and all these other people. in England yeah this crazy It was 3. and then he pulled out. Yeah. because we thought someone was going to die so we were huddled around the thing we pushed play and Well, he murdered someone in jail, but he went to jail because he was a part of a gang rape.

40:28 and everybody was like, You know? Yeah. With drugs and stuff. We just don't generally worry about getting stabbed or shot. In America, it's a real concern with drugs and stuff. Bottlings are just, man, it's fucking scary shit. Sucker punching. Well, there were two or three kids arguing with him. Now they've also made it that you can't go out, you can't come into a bar after a certain

42:02 No common sense. Alcohol's the worst drug ever for social behavior. Canadians are so nice. Yeah, that's one of the reasons. Yeah. again like how could he win like how the fuck did that guy win after all this nonsense that I had a friend move here because There's a bit of romance here. the, some of the, we went to Manchester and it was a bunch of kids walking around with babies

44:50 Our family's there as well. So many people are angry about it. And I think that's just crazy. Well, you guys have to keep crap jobs just to keep your health Yeah, well, I meant... I thought I'd go join. And meanwhile, she's moved to Australia. the Israeli army if you're from a Jewish background, That's correct. I didn't quite make it there. I don't know why I said that

48:00 leave it already night we arrived there, went straight to trashy tourist area well look and they're wearing It's gross. he got drunk on the corner So, and then ever since then, I was like, man, I love this, this fighting business. And just kind of kept going back and love living there. Yeah. I'm learning difficulties. wasn't established the thread on the

50:06 Of me fighting? I wanted to ask him what it's like to actually watch yourself. and this is quite a, there's my coach Nick Stone. who's a brilliant coach but it's um you know we had a bit of boxing a little bit of nutrition a And you come back to Australia and like, oh, fuck this guy. So in my whole career, I only took about 12 to 13 hits to my head in all my fights.

51:58 34 fights and only 12 to 13 hits to the head? Do you think that Muay Thai fighters take much less damage than boxers, per se? We do a lot of clinch, it's still very young. But boxers always have had a history of, you know, gym wars and stuff with ties. Sick. Why would they spar? You know, the first round, they don't go hard. Well, because the adrenaline will take a bit to kick in.

54:40 Saxon. Look, he was just... And by the way, that was not illegal for people that actually lived in Thailand and kept saying it was illegal. I don't know. They won't fight in the fifth round So that was illegal So now I've got a little bit dirty. Just a brain hemorrhage. Yeah, one or two fights after. Did Yeah, no big deal. Just a brain hemorrhage. The thing about the fight is, man, it didn't have to be this way.

56:37 I mean, a lovely sport, but I mean. then get punched in the head again and dropped, the Thais fight being that Jesus, we were in Holland about a year ago training at, That's a great gym. Well, anyway, go to the locker room and just be prepared to keep your eyes facing straight Back to the Garden of Eden. So how did you decide though,, that you were okay doing this?

58:42 There's another one coming up. I woke up for about three months after this fight I like how you hit him when he was down too. I got knocked out in Jamaica on a big show, but I was so dehydrated. I get there. In Jamaica. So let's say six. I was saying about, how we didn't know back then day of jesus i would you know get down 140 pounds the day of the fight yeah you got hit in my head

1:01:06 watch it's it's one of those fights to be the greatest fight ever if you weren't This is the end of the fight. Did you have total? Um, I had a couple of like I just kept dropping. it's like you go backstage, nine, Yeah. You know, really good started towards the end getting a little bit dodgy like because tires are very proud They're trying to set you up?

1:04:06 And my brother and I are in Koh Phangan and I was still staying there for quite a while, having some flights. So he entered the PIN number wrong when he put the card in In that time, my friend, I had two doctors I'm going to go look for them. And we didn't know what actually happened because the media We didn't carry all of them. Because of the bodies.

1:06:21 And the animals must have detected, It's only a small island. really monkey no no I was like monkeys we came down and basically some girls on um yeah and stuff a lot of post-traumatic stress and um you know it ate that much and just from Like every day I could write a book on the things that we did and what happened. It was your favorite movie. me some of the stories today quite recently i haven't talked to him about it that's one of the

1:09:40 Yeah, some cool stories. So I'm the only Westerner that does it. a lot of, you know, there's a lot of bike accidents and stuff, you know, we go collect Like we're kind of G.I. Joe kind of rescue men. And I was like, if I'm going to retire, I don't have to train that much. Yeah, we're not, we're not really allowed to talk about all of it. Cause a lot of,

1:11:47 This is the worst part of it. They never mention their king. would happen. Wow, just for not standing up at the movie theater for the king. country you never go to the place where westerners hang out i don't want to see aussies i don't see I mean, imagine the fucking idiots that you have to deal with that are always on vacation coming from all parts of the world.

1:13:56 Maybe they have to deal with dickheads. everyone's so scared of the bombs and all that's right don't worry about it It's not that. Disrespectful towards the Thais. The young traveling Australians. Um, basically a picture of a crew cut. and they're like I can see them really take you in But the one thing about Thailand people don't know is that before the tsunami, you couldn't buy property there or businesses unless you were under a Thai name.

1:16:54 that's where he did his rescue stuff, it's not recognizable anymore. With white people. That small part, you know, of Thailand, like there's still a lot of untouched areas. Especially up north. It's crazy. I mean, look, you've got to go. It's an amazing place, and the people are amazing. That small part of Thailand, there's still a lot of untouched areas.

1:17:40 It's a big expat community. don't really go back there anymore. I wasn't really into it Like, this is the time the drunken crowds on New Year's they They're so crazy. It just wasn't worth doing. Well, bloody, here's something for you. and with automatic rifles. and you guys are going to take us hunting. I'm not coming to Australia. Yeah, but the pigs attack us because we're chasing them.

1:19:53 They're terrifying. we don't have wolves but swimming up on the top side of Australia you don't just have to worry about sharks. Way up north. believe he's jesus really well he's got some woman with him that he uh says is mary so she's a whore Ponds, lakes, anything like that, right? Not a brown bear. They just go up the tree. I mean, most of them are scared of people because we usually have guns and bows and

1:22:05 Brown bears, on the other hand, are fucking terrifying. The polar bears are the most dangerous. they kill people even in america every year That's brown bears. Brown bears. Brown bears and grizzlies, they just go, Wolves are scary as fuck because they act together together the scary thing about wolves is they act together they they haven't been there haven't been very many attacks

1:23:46 form super packs. There's also a And there were so many of them It's a famous incident. and dingoes are like, once he saw one dingo best place in Australia they're like dogs She was 19 years old, young kid. I could never shoot a dog. There's some of them where guys are holding up these wolves because they want more people to kill wolves. Well, a lot of these are reintroduced in North America.

1:26:24 but it's just like white-tailed deer. I mean, crocodile's probably the worst, I guess. I've heard that like 10 times. It's the worst. And I was like, are you serious? They don't know why, but for some reason, the way Americans talk, they, you get where See if you can pull a black one off. black drop bear. It's, uh, section at our airport, they may take our passports.

1:28:18 Something about red meat. an American, koala bears are the most harmless, I'm like, are you serious? Do you guys eat kangaroo here? You can buy lion. Yeah, I tried that. They do. By the way, when you had that podcast, I was geeking out because when I hear that guy talk, I just want to hug him. I love you, mom. not i'm not it's not me. I'm pretty sure they didn't take them out of the box.

1:31:20 Stop looking for a sign-up sheet on my website. Like one guy goes, It's cool, though. is very difficult to get a hold of. this crazy dude on uh on a cd talking about little athletes going to China and stuff. Yeah, yeah. and then having to go And nowadays, everybody listens to podcasts. name well you know what people will do that they'll do that and then they'll be like they'll

1:34:14 Oh, your podcast changed. Fucking people get annoying man. Everything gets annoying if you have I love cheeseburgers Well, you know, I think one of the keys What I'm interested in is what I'm interested in. I think there's plenty of room. same as it's always been i don't necessarily know because i think i've probably changed as a human And I think that the more you do that, the better it is for you and the better it is for everybody.

1:37:17 Yeah, absolutely. It's super easy to do for a couple hundred bucks. And sometimes people do things along those lines. In terms of I'm like, okay, hold on. Like there's some people that are frustrating to do podcasts with because all they're trying to do is impress upon you how much they know and spout out And the better you get at it, You guys can do it.

1:39:25 Set it up. And also on top of that, like, he was very concerned So, you know, like somewhere between the two. I mean, I have friends that suck at podcasting in the beginning, conversation and make it all about them it's it's you're gonna have that too you're gonna have What is it? No, you guys are all't. That's cool. No, you guys are all interacting.

1:41:47 You know what I mean? because a bunch of people are going to write Z, Z, Z, Z, Z. Fuck it. Boring. Kill yourself. I mean, it's going to be hard listening to the feedback because a bunch of people are going to write Z, Z, Z, Z, Z, those, dealing with those bodies, No, I can't stop you. There'll be flies and it was pretty bad. let's, There's just like flies everywhere.

1:43:18 So I had, mainland and for many, many trips after, I kept ordering the same dish. I think his tires probably looked at me like, oh, this white guy. so you still thought that you were adhering a lot of people don't know We hunted it but never eaten it. and they deworm them I was like boars there's a guy Did you get that fact from him? You've been telling me that for like a year?

1:45:50 They look physically different than the pigs that you have in domestic stables. Huge, huge problem. Huge problem. American hoggers. Yeah, there's no tag domestic pig. They start to look like boars. You guys have a problem with it here as well, huh? Oh, huge, huge problem. No, I just can't. Did you ever watch Skippy back in the day? captain america about as interesting like he's the like he was basically like a hero that didn't

1:47:12 it's really hard for us because it's like... The red ones are scary, yeah. The ones we see are small ones. You're reading the newspaper. Whereas this kangaroo went through. it gets boring but the one thing i was going to say i don't know americans probably haven't seen I've never seen it, but I've heard of it. I'm just swearing all fucking day. Yeah, it's true, but it's just second nature.

1:49:17 And what kind of animal is he? a guy a serial killer Yeah, that's kind of a douchey thing to do. Okay, this is one of them. Well, America, we don't really have too many of those videos available, probably. But Americans have no idea. But you do have to see it. Oh, wait, is this it? Forget it. They're nice guys. the gun in case you shoot the dog so is it just such a dense terrain that you can't find them

1:52:19 And, you know, it's basically like, look, we're growing food for people. I haven't. Well, these places are literally $1.5 billion in damage per year. That's Pig Man. What? from these farms. they're growing in population I shot a wild pig a few months back and I made a ham recently. We do barbecue well, but you guys are – I went to Kansas and – I've never heard of Burnt Ends before.

1:55:21 And it's all about his – he has a barbecue place. It's so healthy for you too. in America called It's like a deeper, redder color. rats or rabbits or you know anything else they eat they eat a lot of uh deer babies they ground They fucking bolt. That's funny. See, we're smart Australians. The kangaroo's cheap meat for us, you know. Oh, I'm sure. I worry because basically they kill it and then refrigerate it.

1:57:52 checks and then kill it and then produce it i'm not saying that's better or worse i just mean as And do they check them, inspect them? And he's like, And bull rider. since I was a kid. that's only one person. Well, there was kangaroos. and we bought our supplies in our little bag and, you know, we had our snacks and all this and that lot of it, we actually felt quite healthy. Like as in our body adapted to kind of just doing what

2:00:28 and I've got like, you know, my jacket on. We're trying to impress the farm boys, man. Oh, we had a call for like three days or something. Well, I'm only talking three days. But I was eating a lot less than I normally would in the city. Rabbit's beautiful. Deer heart was good, yeah. Anyway, that's just my opinion. Oh, walking. because they're fucking everywhere.

2:02:53 Deers eating people's lawns and all kinds of shit, eating their gardens, rather, eating their roses. People think we're nuts. and rightfully so. You know, the shoes you wear, the belt you wear. And there's also this moral high ground that they like to take. not that healthy. I can pick them up and hold them, and they give me eggs every day. The only way that egg can become a chicken is if you have a rooster.

2:05:27 And I was like, all right, let's do it. I'd love I've never eaten a fresh chicken like that. I I ate seven of them this morning. That's why we looked like hobbits. back then. Well, you know what's interesting? Chickens can fly. With chickens, it's more antibiotics that they have to deal with Yeah, I feed them only grass. And then we feed them, they eat protein

2:08:33 to eat it so no one can see Kickboxing chickens. Yeah, right. like, why do you care in your yard. I'll just kill this goat. But her mom can kill a chicken and cook it up like you wouldn't believe, right? skin, bones, everything, right? Yeah, well, like a pate or something like that. there's a weird disconnect but there's a lot of people that eat meat and have eaten meat and don't

2:11:46 And I had no problem with it. who keeps organic grass-fed cows, Run around free City boys They don't attack humans Remember I was Nah these are old ones Yeah, that's a good question. I would insult them and say that I wouldn't eat it. Yeah. He's an investment property. like 120 it's a big dog Not bad. He goes mean he's he runs and they're real to put up too many dog pictures

2:15:15 well there's a bond that humans have with dogs and especially that's a thing that people don't he'd eaten his man's best friend. So the first thing he does is replace fighting with pictures of dogs. I actually, I was like, look, Dylan, listen. Paul Pramac. He never said that. He's got his own Instagram. Hell yeah. Yeah, you can't feed cats grains. Let's Google that right now.

2:18:28 Hmm. You never hear about that. Alone for food to feed people and pets. they can't help it like they're just thinking about biting have you ever had to fight dreams Yeah. Oh, yeah. vegan diets for dogs and cats. people's relationships we know a friend who told us they have a patient who's got Munchausen's. Apparently what they're saying is that dogs and cats have a much different nutritional requirement than human beings.

2:21:37 Here's what you know. It's kind of calming. That's why I have boobs. Cows that stomp on rats or something. And strippers. If you ever go to Thailand. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what the argument was because I was a fair bit away. Yeah, but you know one thing I was going to say is it always shocks me when you see dudes in another country like Vietnam, Thailand, Brazil starting fights with the locals.

2:24:56 Fuck, Thailand. Do you live in Thailand now or do you go back and forth? It's very ancient. you know, I had my brother back in Sydney as well. And I think like, it was kind of like, you're not, you know, you're doing all this fighting and you're being admired and you're brave and everybody's like, Dylan, Dylan, Dylan. to be holding him back. I competed a fair bit in jujitsu and I loved it,

2:26:40 like for those two, 100 meters trying to put everyone back together. Lots and lots of bodies. It's just a room half the size of this. It was like a V8 turbocharged ambulance, this thing. And it sat with me, and I'm thinking, what the hell are they talking about? I'll try kickboxing Fucking bulls You're a maniac dude No, I'm just soothing my throat. Oh, your throat.

2:29:22 Most places. Yeah, this is bro knowledge. And I don't like that at the same time, because I don't like anybody telling me what I can and can't do. He's your boy, right? And it's a true story based on a real chemist who was developing specific compounds designed to keep people addicted. I was only 20. And by the time I was 21 and I was still smoking, I couldn't was cool I was an idiot and by the time I was 21

2:31:12 man I couldn't quit from my lungs What kind did you smoke? But I was actually one of the last ones smoking, than a decade he's like to this day every now and then I'll see someone smoking and it just looks so good. You know, I have a real problem with that. It's like almost on, And step on it You fucking nitwit Biodegradable. Have you ever picked up?

2:34:27 shit head I feel like it's their own bodies this thing up anyway. No worries. How do they get a hold of you? what about HTTP vt1academy Do you know that a lot of French girls in Canada are called Lawrence? when I say Lawrence, I think of a big Chinese guy with a guillotine that kills you, right? So that's us down there. P-E-E-K. Yeah. That's – oh, it's not up there.

2:36:48 And that's going to have all the talents. Are you working hard? say why don't you fucking grow up i've never heard anyone say that i've had many people tell me to Do you know you're going to die? I just wanted to share, Chris. it just was something interesting that came up. Cut weight this way. Look, I've eaten potatoes and red meat my whole life. Like it's a healthier diet.

2:39:29 of tequila up my nose. So it's just, it's good to train hard the day before the fight but training breaks the body down the whole purpose week of is really not beneficial some guys do it though and they get away with it so our guy looks Yeah, he's very good, very smart, and very technical. I think it's still in a learning period. sport in the world

2:41:51 well they just copy never mind MMA like they've got a lot So for people, there's a lot more push towards and they were telling me about everybody smoking cigarettes. He's the one who, like, Tong Po sort of based on him. But we saw him, and he's a legend. Wow. Glory, yes. high-level kickboxing. That's right. that he had to fight three rounds and Gokhan had a fight one

2:44:29 But also the removal of clinch makes it fucking dangerous. He is an elbow guy. You go. is a huge company you know spike is viacom they're owned by huge huge huge billion dollar It's amazing to watch. and I think it's fucking, Not in America, not in Holland, right? They know how to clinch and ragdoll people. This sounds really stupid because you've got a bad neck,

2:46:48 Lion Fight's an organization in Vegas, She lost to this girl from... I'm sure she's a nice lady, Yeah, he's cool. And it's the comprehensive full style of Muay Thai. Look, he's got a long way to go. He's only, you know, his first fight, right? Watch the prelim card with our guy who fought. Not to even look. You know what I mean? Against world class guys

2:48:16 And be really fucked up In the finals I just think that they should reconsider. gentlemen, it's been a pleasure ok, beautiful, thank you guys Go to O-N-N-I-T. and then thursday g Thursday Greg Fitzsimmons