Joe Rogan Experience #499 — Cenk Uygur Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. You don't have to go through a million different steps and get approved by producers. You just create your own show. Yeah, it's totally crazy. 2002, we started sending in taped shows to Sirius Satellite Radio. Okay, so first let me just quickly say thanks for having me on. Thank you, man. That's not, you can't do that. I went to first day at the law firm.

2:55 fill in whatever they'd give me i drive nine hours to boston to do weekend show uh and then and then don't know that at all i've never met her and i don't want to be daisy's voice i want to be my And they literally didn't even know we were on the air for the first six months. He's like, you guys are surprisingly decent. But honestly, the online video got so much bigger than radio that it became not worth it.

5:41 And then if you're hardcore and you like the show then you just go to our website So on YouTube, we have a little over 1.5 million subscribers for The Young Turks, the flagship show. It's amazing. the same time which was just so crazy like it it was just, I was going to melt down. Like when Jesus, who's still with us 12 years later, studio what did how did you set that up what did you do we did indiegogo um so it's basically the

8:44 So we're like, OK, let's try this because, you know, we built everything with our audience. Let's try to get $150,000. You know, I don't care what people say as long as we can actually use the money to build a studio. And then he'll be like, okay, yeah, but let me tell you all the things that are going wrong and yada yada so i've unfortunately Bounds are recent. That's not going to get a billion views, I'd be like, dude, come on, bounds are recent.

10:45 As, you know, Spider-Man's uncle told him, with great power comes great responsibility. You know, what you're doing is this is my name is jank uger this is my opinion boom i'm gonna put it out there and i don't give a fuck what you think what's going on here. It's none of that. There's none of that. But you come along and that is and already they have millions and millions and millions of subscribers.

13:34 reading from a prompter. It's guys who are supposed to be reporters that never ask follow-up questions but so has the number of injuries. and the Strip Club DJ. And the Cenk is spelled with a C in the beginning? They're like, you're nuts you're gonna keep the name jank huger and and the jank is spelled Keep it simple, stupid. But I'm not fake like everybody else on TV and radio.

15:45 you know what, ladies and gentlemen, the United States that we know today, this great nation, You don't have to be this fucking strip club DJ. And now he's in Memphis, you know, and now he's in Dallas and now he's in Ohio. And so there's like 15 people running and 12 of them showed up at the Young Turk Studios. yeah and so when the guy with the talking point talked it sounded weird right like hey why are

18:20 the question i asked was actually this okay Okay, so what's your real answer? And that voice is the voice that sort of in their head One of my favorite moments at all of politics is the Rick Perry moment where he forgot what he was talking about. I mean, he really did just tap out. I do as well. just like John Kerry. like a maniac. broadcast directly into a

21:55 It's not going to be in the perspective of the actual rally itself. Yeah. and then you play the two tapes next to each other, A lot of people, they look at the future and they say, well, we're not going to have any privacy anymore. You could bemoan it. they're not going to have secrets anymore. I think that's great because I don't believe that there's bad people out there, that it's only bad people that run for office. It's only bad people that can get into office. It's only bad people that run companies. I think you allow bad people to run companies, bad people to run corporations because of the fact there's no transparency.

25:27 how i actually think like so he hates transparency and he's like god damn it like they caught me once that's super fake, and then you have the new media, i don't know i can't understand internet numbers well then maybe you shouldn't do that job you can't a lot of shows that would benefit from them releasing the numbers that are on DVRs, But they can't turn the ship around.

28:28 That's what they do. The boat will shatter. We'll get off, whoever survives, survives, Oh, this. Yeah, I mean, of course So they're like, okay, a month and a half ago So everybody makes it up. And what are the numbers? Okay, first of all, the difference between 14 and 20 is pretty substantial, but it doesn't really matter. Glenn Beck lost to, like, San Francisco and Philly, I think, immediately.

31:28 No way they believe that. promotion that you you got to i got to you from my internet message board just complete word of We're right wing and we're going to stick with what is American flag behind me and God bless our troops and cut to commercial. He's crazy, and he says a bunch of nutty racist shit like black people were better off when they were slaves on the plantation because now I go to Vegas and I see them running around

33:43 He doesn't want to pay for it. A lot more than that. And then they're like, oh, if the government comes here to collect the taxes, fees, whatever, authority and all of these black people and their guns are dangerous, right? White militia But there's a lot going on here. So one of my big surprises when I got into the talk show world was how stupid Sean Hannity is.

36:52 He's just reading the shit. hate obama the next thing sounds like the exact opposite but it's still a talking point about i And just to be clear, they're not all dumb. Not one of his top moments. And you can't get off that gravy train. He said, everyone we have here is conservative on the air. There is no liberal talk station, especially back then.

39:42 We're progressive. Right. I've never ridden a motorcycle. And we're the establishment here, and you got to start acting like it. that to you like that's such a you're supposed to be more subtle than that yeah like that was You nailed it because that's what came next. I'm not doing that, right? Why would you want to do that? because I had gotten the speech a couple of months earlier about it. And you kind of ignored it.

43:14 Like, is anybody, am I dick? Yeah. And he stood there for about 30 seconds prime time to weekends, but they bothering with the online thing? I'm like, no, no, no. You schmucks. The real deal is online. Because part of the reason they double your salary is so you shut up. kids yeah and and look if you didn't have the luxury that i had think about if you're in one in You're thinking about all this shit that that money provides you. Yeah, yeah. Oh, that's hilarious. And I got young kids. Yeah.

45:43 car rides everywhere, first class everywhere, et cetera, The word goes out in the street, he doesn't play ball. The monologues could have done with some editing, I don't think this is good. Obermont. Before that, it was all conservative. And he did it despite MSNBC saying, principled on his politics. Folks not listening, to talk about politics. look,

49:07 they literally moved her into a closet and so uh they said we're not going to let you out of your But they're not going to let him out again to talk about politics. Yeah, you definitely can get too used to that whole system The last thing you want is Plus, a guy like Keith has been on TV for so long. I keep calling him Keith like we're Yeah. Plus, I bet he doesn't do it.

51:50 one too many people telling you how great you are so gigantic that it can't be punctured. So if he were to go online, it would get punctured, There's also folks that will say something that you don't want to hear, That's 100% right. But overall, if most people, if 80% of the audience is agreeing to something, it's almost certainly correct. Do this.

54:41 When it comes to being a woman or being transgender, I'm 100% in support of it. imagine what it's like to be that person I mean, I will call her a woman, And when you didn't disclose the fact that she used to be a man. But when you're on a fucking television show, you don't get a chance. we're talking about this whole right-left paradigm and this whole team Democrat thing that you faced when you were on MSNBC or the team Republican that Sean Hannity is a part of, that sort of embodies the whole problem with television that really doesn't exist in the same form on the internet. You're going to have people that agree and disagree in the internet, but in a format like

57:55 So I got to squeeze in as many topics as I can It might've been the NSA, you know, wiretapping, whatever, but I needed to explain that and Well, I hear you. Like, we'd walk in in a t-shirt. Oh, that's great. conversation but what foundation works best for me? I'm like, behind me, people are going to get kicked in the fucking face. All this shit, if I have a zit, I have a zit.

1:00:42 Yeah. That guy scared you? They look for that. Yeah. Well, we were talking about it with Louis Theroux. So it's like whoa If we're trying to preserve how they actually live, that's what older rhinos do. It's normal. Why are you letting people kill them? But if you do, your whole point was conservation. Why are you letting people execute them? Well, we've become the stewards of nature itself.

1:04:36 Because there's supposed to be tigers around the pandas, or whatever the fuck their natural you know, like nature frozen in time at that time, right? Yeah. This is what we're used to. And then you'll get a new species. to preserve it as it is today. And it's a very strange, just as natural as a macaw making weird noises and, You know, I never thought about it that way.

1:07:31 why dick pics exist it gets better so so my favorite thing is is discussing the genetic thing that the head is designed in that way to plunge out sort of as a plunger. with. It's because they have complete total control over the females that And I had a guy who does porn on the show last week. So he did a documentary and a book. You can act monogamous, but you're not monogamous in your mind.

1:10:41 He has a, I don't want to call him doctor. that's what Chris used to think about to keep himself from orgasming. He used to think about of the Joe Rogan podcast. Okay, but it worked, because then I wouldn't come. Yeah, so He goes, well, then you're not monogamous. Even if it's not your wife, It's part of having an imagination, buddy. And then we start realizing that our sperm creates that kid and that kid's my kid

1:13:55 We want to sometimes rip somebody's head off and we have all these urges and we have these passions. They might communicate with each other. They might have family groups and balance to pull off. So yes, we're polygamists. There's no question about that. The flip side of that wants to nest, And you're crazy if you think that they're ever going to cooperate. And then there's the guys who are like, hey, no, people are competitive. They want to, you know, and you're crazy if you

1:16:37 And I think that that conflict is sort of what fuels thinking and what – I think that's the yin and yang of life. You, Yeah. I cut a lot of people a lot of slack that do fucked up things for money What if that happens? You work hard to the end of the day. There's no Miller time for life. It's easy to say, don't worry about money when you have $300 million.

1:20:21 or to get driven around in limos. I totally agree with you about being unfortunate if you grow up rich. And what else is going on? Well, what else is going on is there's this slow but inevitable sort of dissolving of the boundaries between human beings and information. be a point in time where we have to decide as a civilization that the only way to continue to

1:23:43 And if it's just ones and zeros, everyone's going to have access to it. all the time. And we're experiencing that now by being able to access the database of human and I take them instantly. and it interfaces with your mind. It's information on a database somewhere. And there's going to be a bottleneck where we have to decide how we manage that database, how we manage the access to that information. Because

1:26:50 what it means to have wealth. So in our current society, we make this huge mistake of thinking that it's the end. replaced happiness with the end goal of money, there's no winning that fight, right? So it would we can't tell in the physical space that we're in, right? In the physical space that we're in, and zero is nonexistence and one is existence and we are all one, right?

1:29:45 So those answers I don't know. I think that everything works to ultimately become more and more complex. Our society becomes It's just information. They all live above the Arctic Circle. You're like, I'll give you this. So I think money is a good tool as long as you realize what it is. It just makes things more that bank became a fucking hard drive somewhere.

1:32:45 Where's the gold? I think that what we have established today is functional. It's not going to stay the way it is now. Like they don't – like no one knows. Who controls the Fed? I don't know. It's all based on the system that you build. represent you. They're going to represent the people who give them the money. Like, In corporations, and this is what leads to the global economic meltdown, as soon as a corporation is born, it's like Oedipus.

1:36:46 more specific including especially if you're at a bank, a public bank, take as much risk as humanly possible because more risk equals more short-term reward. where the executives of the public corporations don't care about the public corporations. and the way it used to be established that come like the NSA spying thing like Within a year, the whole world's attitude about email and transactions

1:39:37 stupid brick cell phones they were letting you know that they are wealthy and privileged that's He likes to talk. It's just an example. It's not just that we can go into their and then eventually be like, wait a minute, everybody's ha ha That's true. same with muslims down i mean sure like oh my god if you see someone's ankle well obviously you're And not only that, doing it on television, like you watch them on television,

1:43:14 ate from the tree of knowledge. That's what Adam and Eve did. So if you've got your old way of I mean, knowledge is flooding in like a tsunami and they can't stop it. of tapping into something like that is that I'm going to be able to get into Jenk's mind too. Sure. and the next mind and you're going to be amazed at the darkness of humanity. Like I look at my kids now and I look at the Internet and I'm like, wow, what a weird world it is that these little children, they're growing up with no access or no knowledge of what it was like to exist in a world

1:46:54 And that's when I think the money thing will become the bottleneck. They're injecting young blood into mice and they're finding that it reverses the aging Yeah, they created a guy. occasionally in cows. They are, yeah. And then shit gets really real. And step one is ultimately going to lead to step 1,000, which is going to be immortality. That's natural human instinct.

1:50:31 So you're super optimistic. You think we're going to get to be butterflies. this kid's way, I tell that to my 17 year old all the time. I'm like, you are so much smarter than Don't look at it as a chore. I see all that shit, but I also see this crazy fucking monkey We're going to be a dark, dark caterpillar for a Right. It's a terrible idea. That's the real problem. The real problem is clinging to this biological idea of what a person is.

1:54:13 And I'm looking at this guy, and this guy's happy to have this artificial hand, this artificial leg. developing Alzheimer's, but here's the good news news we can take your brain and we can download all So that department, they've created the robots, they'll be awesome yeah then you can create any sex robot you like to have them look like anyone But that connects back to our initial conversation about nature and animals, right?

1:56:59 and artificial leg, that's going to happen with a body. It's going to happen with a whole body. This poor fucker. shit off and just like we can give you when, again I keep going back to China, nothing against the Chinese, it's unethical. We're not going to do that. What does that mean? Right. Except when, again, I keep going back and they have the spider skin that's bulletproof

1:59:03 I'm happy that the other kids are smarter, stronger, have bulletproof skin, but mine won't. Because it's incredibly- for the well-being of ants? we're we're happy you know taking our kids to sea world and watch these fucking things jump So what happens when you amp that up? That's the reality of the world. people have. And the reason why this Little Red R riding hood, you know, the reason why it was

2:02:20 They ran into a super pack. This is the world. off our ideas that we apply to humans that we love and sort of alienate humans that we don't love, Wolves are motherfuckers, man. Oh, except that every generation of Americans has gotten an amendment except us, right? Americans for America, you know, that whole thing. Exactly. to express influence in a way that's never been available before. And a group of 300 million

2:06:29 Public opinion had no effect, no effect on what our so-called representatives did at the national level. She doesn't own the grocery store. She represents them because she sees them every day at the cash register when they're taking their cucumbers and their orange juice and stuff. And so it's a beautiful thing we're trying to rebuild, right? and he's like is right wing is against it is a all-time so sorry ralph so

2:08:42 Because we actually had a democracy. downhill time he said he's a democratic uh representative he's in the house who went to the democratic it took this system that was already super fucked and just put it up on and they said, oh, if it's an independent expenditure, It's a fucking joke, right? auction. Look, nobody ever wakes up in the morning. American Enterprise Institute and Heritage Foundation, these think tanks, venerable think

2:13:05 nope, no, I don't see it. It's incredible. It's incredible. It's just an amazing thing to say a lot of money affecting education affecting politics and affecting the supreme court okay for businessmen to take over the country, they wanted him on the Supreme Court. Nixon does them How has he gotten successful this whole time? would bow down to the Fed and the multinational corporations. You're very unsophisticated

2:16:22 And we're moving to Mexico. didn't get there by being the smartest, most successful the best investigative reporters no no they got there The internet also realizes that this is the first time maybe ever they shot a bunch of kids and they were protesting. The National Guard comes in, They just broadcast something on television that didn't even happen.

2:19:14 When's the last time you heard CNN say the Pentagon is lying? But in fact, they're more devious in a sense because they have the veneer of being a real media organization Isn't that amazing? right? And I'd... And then they turned it into essentially an infomercial to get tourists to go to Bahrain. squashed her piece, bought time on CNN and made like a tourist piece about Bahrain.

2:21:57 They weren't Afghans. It's a weird world we live in, man. ever. You don't hear a peep out of these people with full knowledge, everyone that's full knowledge eventually now runs the house, right? If it's like a million. It rewarded him for that. But if you become that guy and you exist in that world for that long, you take on that look. distributing information and by letting people know the actual roots of it and just sort of

2:25:38 to where it eventually is going to go to, I think this is going to be an incredible era of change so the pentagon that is this force of darkness for so many things unfortunately in the world I mean, I think if they could pull it back, they probably would. That is the number one biggest problem to govern is the ability that people have today to express themselves and exchange information.

2:27:10 Because the most important thing is information and knowledge. isn't that incredible yep that's because the government knows how powerful information is Shoot, I forgot. outrageous? That's the system you want. It's fucking brilliant. media. Why would they want to support it? Hell no. That's just the beginning. That's the tip of the iceberg and i think shows like yours and and these all these various shows are just popping up on the internet they're going

2:31:03 She's just a man to trial Okay. Sorry. Too much information there. So, of course, look here. And every day TV gets smaller, we get larger. There's no, they don't, their model is so antiquated, their access, the on-demand access is really, it's very limited in comparison to what's available on the internet. So what are you going to do? them to be tv and then we'll they'll be just as popular right but that's what msmbc did with me

2:34:14 We're going to serve the audience. And so how are they going to compete with that? And let's say that they somehow co-opt us and we sell out, right? You're a New World Order puppet. I've known that dude for a long time. My theory is that Alex is a false flag operation. I'm sitting here in Austin, Texas. Well, I've been around the dude, like I said, for a long time.

2:36:24 and then on top of that, you would add reptilians. You see what I'm saying? He's come on my show But he's right a lot of the time, and that's what's really fucking crazy. to infiltrate peaceful protests and to start chaos, I mean, he shows the photos of the bottoms of these boots. He's like, these people are all wearing the same boots, ladies and gentlemen. These boots are the same boots you will see on soldiers, you'll see on police officers.

2:39:03 The Turkish government just got caught on tape with one of them. That's why the Turkish government shut down YouTube and Twitter for a while because the tapes – of course you're not going to see that on Turkish television. I don't think I'm wrong. It's about life extension technology. And then people shut down, and they go, oh, okay, well, then that must all be full of shit.

2:41:15 having a Looney Tunes dude out there like that, pushing buttons and pulling cords, what's what the fuck? And that's why you have people news actors who do whatever they are and they wear funny hats and how when you look at dollar bills and you see all the look the masonic lodges were probably good things you know what my guess i have no idea but my guess

2:43:53 So it might have had a good – You know what? It wound up being like my first show ever. Half about politics, half about philosophy. Next time. No, no. Oof. Infowars.com, ladies and gentlemen. fucking Christ. My mind is mush after three hours of talk. Squarespace.com Use the code word Joe-R-E for J-O-E. Jesus fucking Christ. My mind is mush after three hours of talk.

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