Joe Rogan Experience #501 — Randall Carlson Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. and just all kinds of crazy shit. Sacred geometry, and you're a very interesting cat, and you I think you're ready, dude. And ever since then, I've been trying to figure out a way to repeat it online. and killed the dinosaurs. But there's been a series of those and that these things may very astronauts and scientists came out said we were new evidence was showing that

3:08 Was that the Russian? Wow. been a little steeper, instead of 1,600 injuries, there probably could have been 1,600 or more what I like to refer to, which means skeletal remains. Skeletal remains of humans that, as far at what point we moderns first appeared on this planet. And that has led a lot of scientists to assume that for all those tens of thousands of years

8:06 events of the scale and magnitude that have happened probably a dozen or more times in the Those numbers are so weird. Oh yeah. that had been built around the 1890s. And it's no longer there. But by the 1980s, it had almost is that 10,000 years from now, it's pretty much gone. I mean, if you look at the great buildings some interstellar anthropologists arrive, what would they see that would indicate that we had been here?

12:12 catastrophes, if you will, superimpose a few of those in the process. And basically 5,000, had found a stone and started unearthing it and then realized it was these huge stone an enormous area, not us, like definitely not me, you know, the fabricated materials that when you expose stone to atmosphere, it's going to accumulate cosmic rays, which cause changes within the stone that can actually be measured.

15:36 it's not necessarily going to be indicative of the age of the stone structure itself. I don't know specifically about that. accounts of Atlantis. There's two of his dialogues, Critias and Timaeus, in which he describes and then Plato, who presumably wrote it down. that there was this tremendous cataclysm and the scientists are giving for this transition from what's called the Younger Dryas. I think

20:21 they refer to it because initially they were looking for this evidence part of the ice age. I mean, this was bitterly cold period of time. Where I live in Georgia was Bear in mind too that with that much ice piled up on the surface of the land, sea levels, forest, meaning a northern forest with spruce trees, larch trees, alder trees, the kind of trees you find now in the northern United States,

23:39 14, 15, 16,000 years ago. Now, the ice begins to melt, sea level begins to rise. Now, it's important that we have in hand now, which has been pretty much reconstructed with a fair amount of accuracy transitional phase between snow and glacial ice. And it eventually gets compressed into FIRN, F-I-R-N, which is the transitional phase between snow and glacial ice.

25:52 But what we see is that the climate has constantly oscillated back and forth. is the Holocene, the one we're in now. warming is when we see human population expanding, when we see cultural advancement, when we see lifespans increasing, when we see infant mortality decreasing. Periods of global cooling are when we And for multiple years running, there were agricultural collapses where because of the

29:06 after this well-documented transition occurred, we had the onset of the Justinian Plague, which meant that for the first time, England actually had a flourishing wine industry, which didn't exist previously, and it has only existed until recent times because of genetically modified crops, is now allowing them to grow grapes where they haven't been able to grow

31:13 healthy again. Stature, and it's been well documented that during this two or three hundred They built about 80 of these gigantic, magnificent cathedrals that required the organizing of thousands of highly, highly skilled craftsmen, This was a time that you had the Templar Knights forming. You've probably heard of the Templar Knights, I'm sure. and then all of a sudden one day nobody shows up to work.

34:32 And once again, the population of Europe was decimated. actually even colder than the first phase. And worldwide, glaciers expanded to the largest they it's important to understand that the glacier recession really began a century and a half ago I mean, do you think it's silly? There are many factors influencing climate, the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate

38:23 is a function of a couple of things. The Earth's geomagnetic field, as you probably know, But, you know, when you hold a little compass in your hand and it points to north, right? It was the reversing of the polarity of the geomagnetic field that helped prove the reality was right, that the Atlantic Ocean had been spreading. And getting back to this whole

41:44 which is now a couple of thousand feet under the sea. you're sitting on that soft chair, right? And your ass is creating a depression in the cushion of the chair, right? of trillions of tons of ice. It pressed the center of the North American continent or the center But now you have to think that all of that weight is being transferred back into the ocean basins.

44:51 Lifts up. behind. And this is what is the Azores Plateau. And it sits right there astride the Mid-Atlantic because the warmth is being brought up by that Gulf Stream, right? Well, during the Ice Age, was a place where civilization could evolve, that would be a very logical place for it to occur. it's it's so crazy to think how how much things have changed while human beings have been here

48:23 between the left and the right, it's this weird thing where the right wants to support like burning if you look at the carbon cycle, for example, At the beginning of the industrial revolution, it was about a hundred parts per million less. it's going to expel some carbon dioxide. So it's not even clear necessarily that that 100 parts amount of CO2 in the atmosphere right now is at the very bottom of the scale. You know, if we look

51:54 you got a huge tank with 100,000 fish in it. Every 10 years, you throw in one more fish. And this is an interesting aside. were, there was like 25 to 40% more forests worldwide than anybody had predicted. that significant. But another part of the argument is that, and this has been admitted right in the contracting. So, you know, at this point, there's a lot of things we still have to learn. When it

56:01 have the Indian Ocean Dipole, you have the Pacific Decadal Ball and the list goes on and on. had to suffer in the consequence. all I'm hearing is the knee-jerk reaction everybody fights about it and you know and then the youtube clips you look at the comments and education, but how much of this have you actually explored? How much of it has anybody actually

59:49 And you talk to, I would like to grab the average person, the average lefty and the Most people know dog shit. these predetermined patterns of behavior that you've subscribed to, And anytime they don't want to be labeled, they start ignoring any evidence or any ideas And then from that point on, basically their perspective is modified more by emotion and rationality, more by, you know, their feelings rather than real information. And it's too bad. I mean, I don't know what to blame it on. Maybe the fact that the government runs all the schools. I don't know. You know, the government monopolizes the education system. So they're not teaching people critical thinking skills. They're not

1:02:54 to climate change. Why did they not really use global warming as a, as a term anymore? It's What's happened is the urban area has encroached, you know, every, when you, when you create streets, pavement, buildings, all of this And what he's come up with is that perhaps as much as 30 to 50 percent of the perceived warming of the last century, flat for 15 years.

1:06:21 But those two terms are not interchangeable. or sole driver of climate is not to be a climate change denier. car, we shut down all the coal plants, I'm going to tell you this. The climate would not stop changing. But that is the problem, right? a fascinating rabbit hole i'm so thankful not only that you've gone down but that you're willing to fossil fuel consumption tomorrow, the climate is still going to change.

1:10:39 Because the climate is going to change. Well, we've been in a, in a recession of the little ice age, a, an interruption of the little ice age for about 150 years. Yeah. Which is horrific in China when they have these coal plants. We need places where nature is just left alone to do its thing We can just destroy the earth, which of course is not the case.

1:13:51 the ecologists that have been studying what happened to that decimated landscape up in Alaska. That's fascinating. earthquakes, they can expel huge amounts of And when we begin to look at the number of times eyeball to eyeball with our nuclear weapons on high alert, 15,000 megatons. It would have been an environmental disaster unprecedented in history.

1:18:06 striking. If I put in 180 kilometers into this calculator here, which is the diameter of the You had global earthquakes probably measured 10 to 11 on the Richter scale. Now, the KT event was the middle of the five great extinction events, right? parts, million more of CO2? Hundreds of times. and another one that looks like it occurred off the coast of New Zealand,

1:21:49 We're starting to realize how little we know about our own history, the history of this particular species and how it's interacted in this crazy, volatile environment of earth years old, so since then, some new ones have year ago event? Yes, and that's exactly what Graham's talking about. And a series of animals that they really have Like, Jesus Christ, how many of them were?

1:24:19 in train load lots, you know, and this has gone into the global ivory market literally for three During the time. Now, at the time this photograph was taken, wolves had eaten the flesh off of the skull. So that's a little, not quite as bad as million-year-old meat. in the leningrad museum so what they did was they took the remains of the woolly mammoth and then

1:26:45 burgers is probably made up, but the wolves definitely were able to eat the flesh, right? contents of the stomach from putrefying, the entire carcass of the woolly mammoth would have had to been frozen through and through Well, there's been some speculation. in Siberia had been warming somewhat, see? And what happened was a part of a cliff that had been

1:30:13 But that woolly mammoth is only one of dozens of examples of flash-frozen late Pleistocene mammals that died under similar circumstances. Isn't it a PDF? The flash frozen mammoth. It was one of those things I was about to go to bed crazy like that, which is something like 300 miles. And then it happens every six to 800,000 years impact could trigger volcanic eruptions. We know that during the great meltdown event of 11,000 to 13,000 years ago that there were enormous,

1:33:36 yeah, there were these just enormous mass transfers of weight. So that would include us. half of the species of mega mammals on earth. Half of the species disappeared. So if you were somehow had a ripple effect down, you know, through the ranks of species, this time globally is less than the estimates of the population of woolly mammoths. culture and the Folsom culture. The Clovis culture appears in North America to be what is believed

1:37:58 And it's full of soot. It's full of iridium, nanodiamonds, microspherals, and all of these signature things microphone. I see. They're all dead. There's some of them. It was the size of an elephant. That's the terror bird, right? A bird that doesn't fly. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Oh, it was huge. And what's the mainstream explanation for these things going away?

1:41:49 At the dawn of earth science, geological Because these were guys, basically, who had not been indoctrinated into any particular see like during the early 19th century, we were in the last phase of the Little Ice Age, so glaciers were receding. right? So as we go into the 20th century, this gradualist dogma became ensconced in academia, around England, and he was seeing things like the Thames River Valley, and he was seeing that the

1:45:26 along in the form of Darwinism. back to biblical fundamentalism if you start talking about giant floods right well what And it was those missteps that they were able to focus on to try to discredit him. Prior to the Apollo moon program, it was believed that most of the craters on the moon, if not all God damn. and Apollo programs. And, you know, that was the one thing when I look back and I go, well,

1:49:55 to Mars before the 80s was over, perhaps independently self-supporting colonies in space by the year 2000. and we just got sidetracked. You know, I remember in the 70s talking to people about the potential of colonizing space using the materials and resources found in space. And the knee-jerk I met Edgar Mitchell years ago. Like Illuminati, black helicopters.

1:51:40 No, no, no. So he saw God in the sense that he got a sense, I mean, without even saying God, he got a sense of the grandness of the universe. I took my family there several years ago, and we were bummed out. I mean, it was like a psychedelic experience. I had a regular camera. And there's so many stars. Yeah. Yeah. This is your first trip to LA because when you're

1:54:18 I think I did a little too many drugs back in the 60s. It was three quarters of a mile long. how where's the largemouth bass come from how what's Saskatchewan was under a mile of ice. just outside of the Twin Cities, Minneapolis. And it's on a series of bluffs that overlooks the Minnesota River Valley, right? that's like the 25 images that's labeled for Joe. It'll be towards the end. It's a picture of the

1:57:20 I think this one is on my website. At the end of the last ice age, the river here was about 30 to 40 million cubic feet per second, right? At the end of the last ice age, the river here was about 30 to 40 million cubic feet second. Cut this channel. Now you'll notice that the modern Snake River occupies a small channel and seeing it in this huge channel.

1:59:38 seeing this matching set of bluffs four, five miles on the other side and seeing this small version of it in the And what happened was, is by him challenging me, it really, you know, I said, okay, you know, like an M, you know, an MMA fighter getting challenged says, okay, I'm going to take you on, But does that sort of, that doesn't seem rational because of the width.

2:01:19 I think that the Grand Canyon is presently, we can observe it, we can observe the Colorado River eroding the Grand you have to understand this now, this is, this is, I think now is the, is the, the emerging, Pliocene is this alternating succession of glacial and interglacial There's an inner gorge. Yeah. Yeah. it's very difficult to go back 20 years ago and, oh, I remember when that happened.

2:05:06 Wow. Oh, well, let's see. Pull out, yeah, there's an image of Tunguska. Every now and then, just one bad motherfucker tree. over the place and you're still horny. I think clearly that's a clear hint that's and we're down hovering at the threshold Yeah. Replenish the earth and subdue it. Well, see, that's the way it's been interpreted. And that's us.

2:08:35 dangerous asteroids that are out there is the closer they get to the earth, the more accessible What does that suggest to you? right down to the, almost to the minute to the hemisphere. What if we discovered that there's And in fact, it would probably make our petty human conflicts pale into insignificance nudged a little bit. And a direct hit can be a wide miss. See, that's all we would have to do

2:11:19 Do you know what a bummer it would be if you had a base on the moon day before the shit hit the fan. without a crane, without modern technology, done it. When you get to something like the Acropolis or the Parthenon that's on the Acropolis, They're in Egypt. And no explanation for how they moved them, So you get a perspective of it. Right. you 664 years.

2:16:42 knowledge, scientific knowledge in prehistory. but maybe 20, 30,000 years. That's always been the work of Graham Hancock. The, the, uh, the ideas, He's a fascinating cat. Oh, I'm convinced. It's not that crazy though. Exactly. if you started out with an initially square. Oh, wow. This stuff is so unbelievably fascinating. or their construction methods.

2:20:57 It's so fascinating. Jamie, go to, you've got a global super flood. Ah, there it is. Get on the microphone there. The yardang was the head of the Sphinx. next to the Sphinx. Why are they bothering to try to rebuild the It's so gross. opening is like 40 feet high. cutting a separation trench and there's a block about to be quarried there. About 30 tons for that rock right there. Now

2:24:26 it would have been essentially a flat surface with this slightly stepped profile And it seems like they used some sort of a chisel to get that out. Based on the marks, yeah. sitting exposed to the desert elements and the Now, supposedly this quarry wall is only a few Like some of it's more dense than others and that's indicative of the changes. Yeah. And you

2:26:54 erosion or water erosion. And that's why I showed you those examples of other quarries, like that old kingdom quarry that's almost the same age as this. No. So there's the depth of the ditch. would have looked like that because the stones that were quarried are what make up the Sphinx Sphinx head itself, which seems to have been Fuck this line. And why it would be disproportionately small compared to the rest of the body.

2:29:50 For folks who don't know, it was covered in smooth limestone and they cut it all up to Talk about vandalism. What kind of message was that that was being sent to the future? Wait for further instruction. How the fuck did people make it through there? They've come down to us. Very interesting quote in one of his books. eyewitnesses. Yes. America went extinct, do you think that the 25% surviving came through completely unscathed?

2:34:38 with this one detail, that there were some humans that had foreknowledge. And so they built arcs. variants on it. But Enoch, the story of Enoch in Masonic tradition says that Enoch had, you know, So there were these two pillars that basically informed any survivors that there was this nine-chambered underground vault that contained the secrets of the previous world age that was coming to a pass.

2:37:15 They survived. aren't going to be able to accomplish that. Now, let's assume that you've got scattered bands of survivors, you basically aren't going to be able to accomplish Well, let's assume that you have a group that survived, How much of an impact would that have had? i mean how much of what everybody has is in the cloud on a you know on a server somewhere yeah

2:40:34 Okay, look at, look at slide number 111. This is a tsunami deposit. How long does it take to do that? Now, you see how they're shaped almost V-like? That's incredible. We're talking about a tsunami whose minimum run-up height is the height, the thickness Yeah. Go to the next slide, Jamie. Yeah, there's Madagascar, location of the chevrons on the southern edge of Madagascar. Let's see, go two slides up. And over on the other side,

2:42:57 No, I just made that up. Go to the next. Right there. of metals typically formed by cosmic impacts. Oh, well, it pretty much would have wiped out anything adjacent to the Indian Ocean. Wow. So it's not even about the Holocene one. I just want to say, you know, you had an objective and you pulled it off. Wow. I mean, we've barely scratched the surface here.

2:45:37 I really, really appreciate it. I really, really have enjoyed it. not directly connected necessarily with what we're talking about here, sacred geometry is one of the keys for deciphering these ancient traditions because all of these and I think that the predominant way of preserving ancient knowledge is in the temple structures, or whether we're looking at megalithic structures in ancient England,

2:48:25 Oh, it'll be a great conversation. Is that what it is? Go to O-N-N-I-T. We'll be back tomorrow with Dr. Rhonda Patrick returns. Mwah. I love you. Big kiss. See you soon.