Joe Rogan Experience #516 — Lewis Hilsenteger Transcript

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0:00 Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out! It's their developers conference. right yeah isn't it i mean like if uh what does game i don't think they do it i don't think i So it has to be an event where you sort of feel like you need to capture it or catch it live or else you're going to miss something. WWDC, Apple holds its own conferences now. Apple, they want to control the entire experience.

2:12 approach obviously controlling the entire software and hardware experience means that you're going to You'd be able to go and there were stores that would construct you an Apple computer. Did you really? just do they make the best laptops they make the best desktops they make the shit that crashes the or swap out a hard drive. I think it's a very busy place when it comes to selling computers.

4:42 a microsoft sign on a in a mall it's like what what And they give you the same experience? Pretty bad. Windows, even in the old days, The Windows NT guys. If you wanted to play games, if you ran NT, And now I don't know who, I think it's just open source. This is the Brian Redband conspiracy theory. That does happen. or whatever, when new shit gets made, new possibilities,

7:57 There's no doubt that, that everyone in this room is in, take the the new weird things you could measure your heartbeat with your fucking with your camera I did it with a regular heart monitor. You can see it on the bottom there. It was green for a second. Yeah, they probably tried to get you into the old version of it what google is hoping to hoping to do on your

10:20 It's very well designed. It's crazy. foresaw happening is that much And so they've been moving into some different operating systems now They were saying on stage that they believe to do it. things that updates, those Google updates that you get on your phone, And it's a learning thermostat. I don't know if you've heard of that before. It's a really fancy thermostat you put in your house.

13:07 So it's Wi-Fi connected. the more you use it. that also do carbon monoxide and stuff like that. Well, they just acquired Dropcam, which is what I've been preaching about forever because around because it's doing detections of what kind of object motions it is do you shut all that off how about as proof? and he had recorded it. But what if you meet a girl at a bar,

15:21 That's the question I was going to ask. But we all know if you have a Photoshop that there's ways to detect if it's Photoshop, if there's an edit. that you know is innocent is it okay for you to monitor them no it's not right we all agree so Or before I left the hotel, I saw on the TV about that guy whose kid died in the back seat of his car. I don't know if you've heard about this.

17:19 car death, backseat Either one is fucked up. Yeah. Right. for an opt-out. cases to make your ego look better right but we know that's true we know that's true we know Right. Well, we're letting it happen. sort of like the marijuana thing in Colorado. I think personal freedom issues are going to still apply. really to to get the most out of it a racetrack would be good anyways.

21:00 You've been up there. There is a way Your phone should not That your phone Is in the car No text fuckface That be a thing. Where the car recognizes. Via Bluetooth. Which again. Everyone's experienced. Apparently, part of what holds them back This changes. so the phone will sort of the car rather will sort of act as an app sort of i i would honestly

23:15 What I meant is your car would be an app. Yeah, they make large lenses. Yeah. exactly so they announced like 50 auto manufacturers that are on board that makes a that's a huge pain I really do. That's what I got, boo. So you're always having the best network. and uh i don't really give a fuck about some mud hut yeah except that those people in those mud

25:57 ooh, that's pretty goddamn close to an iPhone. when other people have to look at it if it doesn't? So other devices came out. For the longest time, Windows phone didn't even have Instagram. that app it's very easy to build because what are your parameters it's the same camera every time The Galaxy S5,5 for example has a But what I'm saying is, Tech guys will carry around two devices for that specific reason.

29:15 And if you have a program like Instagram that is taking random, meaning it shouldn't be like who cares how could they be? eventually start to see promoted Instagram Does Instagram own your photos? software is working when people want to use it if I put a picture on Instagram from an interactivity stamp, this is how you know software is working when people want to use it.

31:20 Can we do a douchebag definition? Jesus, Louisa. It's because you're commenting on a photo that it generates a really fascinating conversation in the comments. It's super common rarely it's it's rare that you it generates a really fascinating conversation in this is a major investment you know outside of their car or whatever. It's really close to you.

33:06 It's fear that you made the wrong decision and so it well like many places in life you get angry when you're afraid than as a tool you know less less of a hammer and more like a piece of jewelry like a watch I say belong to team technology if that's what you're into because the truth is these devices and these platforms push one another. That's true as well.

35:11 Yeah. It could have been an Apple channel. I mean, but that loud minority can ruin the conversation. there's benefits to anonymity because a lot of times you'll get truth that someone might shield You don't say that. You could say something like that. But I think that interaction in general, I think, first of all, I think this stage that we're in, this stage of commenting and being able to interact with people online, just like you put up a video, they can just shit all over your face.

37:41 This is a new ability that never existed a decade ago not website that i just started follow or a new twitter feed that i just started following that's a total handle, I think, is Salon.com. It's called salon.com. God damn it. It's really funny, man. already. Oh, they're just trolling But mom errands are gay Look, you don't deserve to be able to comment.

40:39 example they'll rise to the top oh well that's why you shouldn't use Google+, because that's retarded. dedicated to just like anything like you could reach people you could contact people you could Yeah, yeah, something. I think so. Oh, Reddit did. Is that what you mean? He ran a subreddit called creep shots? But when it's done to guys, it's all kilts.

43:35 Right. That's great. You're not managing it in any way. Or, like, the Death Squad subreddit. Oh, definitely. A strange list of keywords. correct oh definitely it's not there anymore but how how crazy is that? You're censoring things like the word Apple or Samsung or whatever the technology words are. it right so you know twitter facebook's doing the same thing now if facebook promoted posts i don't

46:33 How do you feel about Bitcoin? But I think that money is super low-tech right now. And here's how you know it's fucked. mostly in computers today. And that's what Bitcoin proved. banks right insurance companies financial institutions the biggest skyscrapers are the big banks right insurance companies but uh you know when the first like for example, when the first iPhone jumped on the scene, I'll never forget that moment.

48:55 locations and when it senses proximity Yeah, and then it also gives you free music And it automatically uploads, That's a cool way of looking at it, too. And you get to get whatever you want. World's getting ridiculous. Yeah. Right. Well, they have those weird cameras that you can buy that look like buttons. Yep. Maybe not so much anymore, but it's just not.

52:23 Yeah, it'll have to be regular glasses. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So if I went out and I had no navigation Oakley style sunglasses That have a fucking screen in it like a goddamn movie theater, but it's also going to have something that broadcasts as our avatar, between what i was kind of talking whoa whoa hold up hold up that it has navigation yeah wait a minute back

54:38 is the speed, You can play music with this fucking thing. yeah you can put on sunglasses God damn That's cool That ain't bad That's what I do, man. That's smart. this was back in the day and when a lot of people were into like like little docking stands for your Rubbing alcohol? You want to go there? It has almost a million views. But it was created in Germany, right?

58:24 out that there's like class like in the like, in the past, they've had, like, lawsuits and stuff Yamaha's pretty good. What do we have here? headphone jack. Yeah, headphone jacks went out Products have gotten a lot better Like, exposure. Like, even when you used to have the old tech Okay? it super interactive. Here are my thoughts. Nobody would have given us a show.

1:01:29 media somebody had to give you something you know what i mean right now you go out and get it well You don't have to have a 24 hour time period where, you know, And it brings, to plan my day around a live event. Now, we might do it a little long, Corn syrup is good after you cum. The only reason why that works is because I forced well let's just take the platform that existed and and bolt it on to this new thing instead of

1:04:16 podcast on youtube versus who listen to the audio only versus who those are all independent people from somewhere else. They're not getting any of it. You're not going to lie. It might be painful for them. Look at this damn thing. This is the charger for their watch Sony used to do that shit all the time You had a few drinks Well, that's why the new Apple watch is to be proprietary. That's what you got to do every night before bed. You're not doing that. You had a few drinks.

1:06:37 That experience... They're so clean and everything. Better. Apple's new watch, you just You don't need to buy... Okay. mat. Unless it becomes as is super thin and it's about the size of the watch and they they can connect if you put them If the UI... No, this is UI. I like this guy. They should be hiring you. You got it offline? They're probably not a big fan of mine.

1:09:55 I never heard a word about it. like why do people care so much that's another thing that shows about how our attachment to I mean, like the leak. about a leaked product and went wait wait wait hit the brakes this could be a disaster good question Yeah, I'm tapped into the pipeline. You're doing this all day long access to the vein yeah yeah this is my thing when i used to do cameras uh i used to when those little baby video cameras used

1:12:41 There's an example. and people that work under the managers. is the cultural aspect. He doesn't want to burn bridges. Some are completely out of touch with the way life works over here. And it seems like, of course, it seems obvious. Yeah, but everyone wants to pretend that user experience in Asia is the same thing that we're going to want here. This is the unadulterated Android experience the way Google intended.

1:14:35 No, no, no. Somewhere in Silicon Valley, Are you going to Japan in September? Three weeks, they overhaul the motherfucker. their own shit yeah their samsung has Fuck all that shit. It's like, device. No big deal He's their lead designer. That's the latest Android OS. Right? Android has had to make so many sacrifices There was a Galaxy, I think the S4, had Verizon on the button on the front.

1:18:35 just juice you for a few more pennies. A fucking nosedive. really like the idea that it's a piece of art i love that you're looking at it that way because I love that they figured out how to do that. So I have the actual note itself on my iPhone as well. Not bad, right? The pen is so responsive. There's no doubt that the pen has far more precision than your fingertip. No doubt with it. There's no doubt that the pen has far more

1:20:59 Like top quality stuff. It's like a mini Photoshop. you could trade in your old MacBook Air and get like $650 credit towards their new Surface, I just bought it. Yeah. Right. I like shifting the gears. Mm-hmm. steering right like the old porsches wow the old porsches were super light cars and they had manual Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or do we get more out of it, like you said, through feeling more of it?

1:24:19 It used to drive me crazy. It was because of the bill. And what if I was responsible for someone else being injured or killed? fault and everyone goes, look at the dickhead in the fast car. You know what I mean? And they should. I feel like you drive that car and you get in an accident and it's completely not your fault. And everyone goes, look at the dickhead in the fast car.

1:25:38 It also says something about your ability to control something. Like this new Shelby Mustang. That's insane. They don't brake the best. around in a fucking The boom. I think sometimes They got to put them in the grinder. on the podcast last night. I don't know about all that. never get rid of never feel like that that you'll never get rid of my car i i mean i might one day

1:28:47 He goes, I don't like relationships, man. Right. eventual future is everybody lying down on a couch with a vr headset interacting with a world that This is, I could tell you weren't excited when I first picked it up because it's a piece Oh, let's play this game. No, absolutely nothing. This is the first thing they gave us at IO before they gave us any watches.

1:30:35 There's lenses inside of it. through the lenses an interactivity similar to Oculus Rift, but the real reason for that is because VR, people most people download this and listen to it right what we're looking at is like say if you like 10 by 8, right? Let's see how long it takes. So you click by touching this magnet. Of course it is. So this is... Let's pretend it is.

1:33:42 look at it view master yeah very much like view master lenses but i'm assuming they're a high quality lens it's just embedded in There you go. Four, four, three, six, two. I'm not going to talk. $2 billion, but to essentially playstation 3 lasted for a decade. I narrated it, though. specific ways guys got knocked out. Dude, it came out well though.

1:36:17 have studios they rent studio space here too oh okay um warning the following glitches are very Yeah. Mike, he's pretending to be a turtle that can't flip over. It's a mummy guard. Look how good that Cormier has landed two now. And the Iceman is back on his feet, this crowd is going crazy Joe. What? like spinning around and flipping and then landing on his head and flipping around.

1:39:02 So just go to EA, UFC Glitches. Tommy Toholds, he's a really funny guy. It's funny. It's not going to keep people from buying it. is only because it kind of fucks up the relationship There were guys making a career Yeah. So I'm sure he has some sort of an arrangement with them. commentating on a match who owns that like star crash or starcraft rather those are big things

1:41:34 Right. community like that's what we all think but again you've got some gray-haired dudes sitting in an office. They actually got the job after Blockbuster went under. It's amazing. Never touched it. Yeah. Having old shit is, people brokester. Crazy-ass Fold some tape up, There's a certain age at which Because if you gave me that game at four, tears to my eyes did you smell i swear to god but it's not because of the product right it's

1:44:35 Like, for me and my brother, land parties are so fun yeah exactly you know you high five each other after you fucking we used to So much of the experience is people not interacting with other people online. I haven't played Quake in forever. I bet I suck at it. But compared to those real Quake players, those guys always killed me. Well, I like that you take

1:46:29 Definitely. The guy who was good was the guy down the street. It's a disaster. What the fuck happened? If you have an Apple TV, we can download Angry Birds, and we all come over to my house, You can watch it up plugged in, it was all about and dancing and doing and then it eventually It changes everything. It has the nice big controller. a huge screen, so you're scrolling through Netflix

1:49:01 having an iPad and you're searching for It sees your body move That's your shame We seem to keep coming back to that games or whatever it is and there's just only so much you can do right now best things about the Kinect because it They do. Like one of the most important things when I teach people kicks, specific kicks, is practicing them in the air.

1:52:06 Like your ability, there was always a thing in demonstrations. who's this incredible Taekwondo black belt, teaching things correctly. which is a game that just does that. Really? Okay, I just want to identify something that's what i'm getting at though with the connect is it's like for guys that are really into that and video skype with you and you're on my projector yeah that's pretty dope that's some

1:55:10 Really? No, I'm not. Apple won't give you shit. Read between the lines. Yeah, it's kind of universal amongst anybody who has enough money to buy an Apple computer. There's a reason why Apple is the company they are and Microsoft is the company they are. They do, right? Demetrius Johnson? So we really, the computers are incredible. This is a clunky operating system.

1:57:32 Hey, you can't say that. Why if Microsoft is so goddamn popular? a percentage of the marketplace. Where now they wanted one platform to work on tablets, Your user base gets so big that you're more worried about pissing them off than you are about attracting new people. It's true. But now, I mean, Google has everything. Do you like them? My mom just probably wants to just surf the net, maybe look at some photos, watch some Netflix,

2:00:31 There's an enormous ecosystem of apps available on Android. They beat out Microsoft Internet Explorer? Everybody. Maybe there's some public relations And to control your house. They want more than your wallet. accountability has sort of shaped the way they do business yeah where which is what i've been saying Yeah. Yeah, so. Is the objective of their products?

2:03:42 I have a unique insight as well because a preemptively knowing how far But the good thing is you can have both. Yeah. at dinner. He can be at So I've had him show me. And he does it all with his thumb because his thumb is so educated as to where. He's got to stick with it. and you could write hundreds of words per minute in shorthand faster than you could ever fucking

2:06:45 Right. Like, oh, yeah, yeah, that's why. I mean, I think I should pull up the name of it just in case. That's a very good question. Well, report on it when you get it, man. Yeah. No kidding. Well, it's really usually things that I wanted to talk about that I forgot. I mean, then I would really be able to click on it. about i won't do an unboxing but i'll i'll talk about it on this i think you should do it i think

2:10:12 Whatever it is that I have giving you his reaction like in some ways you be you become sophisticated to a point where you It affects you. Do you put on kid gloves for LG? For example, the product they're reviewing, there's a huge banner ad right above it. They do do that. I'm saying you're not reporting on a murder. In fact, a popular tech website that I won't name for a very long time has been running ties.

2:12:58 believe them. They go way beyond that. It was like 6.5. Everybody's busy as fuck. Yeah. right? that have been critical of the UFC, the whole process of having an independent, it becomes irrelevant. We started a YouTube channel. It's like if you're a really good-looking person. Too late. Hot women grow. All right. Like, when Fedor Emelianenko was If there's some guy out there that's murdering motherfuckers in some other organization,

2:17:34 and you're getting all these... is your dick for as well. Did you know that? Yes, I did. and use an 8-volt battery. If you're on the go. Done. Right. It's out to those fuckers. crook over there you got it lining his pockets with funny money let me tell you how it works But it's just a blacklist. Right. And if those people, working for whoever, decide that they're going to write something different, guess where they can find their new home?

2:20:45 is because they haven't fucking burned to the ground yet this inherent fear, Oh! The Verge is big. I'm just talking about a potential that exists that steers in a direction outside way outside the world of journalism that doesn't think guys write like really scathing reviews There's guys that have the device anymore. So they have to. Like, You're retro.

2:23:38 fuck it, So are you, actually. because I've even brought up this weird cheat code. It's not an open access story. time, you can accumulate millions controlled situation, which is what There's nothing that fucks up. Yeah. still executing on stuff that he had in the pipeline. What a fucking maniac that guy was. Definitely. Also, you've got to think about what is an average person's life an average person's life is you have a job but you also have like a fucking family and a lot of other shit you do yeah your

2:26:59 They're calling it L. carrier this is an unlocked device completely open right. Right. This guy's name was Julian Robertson. and decided that Apple, Yeah, me too. I just don't believe that bad guys do well in the long run. relationship with him i think you know you could go all sorts of ways you could go the way of these You know, you know they didn't say that in that author.

2:29:37 You can't help it. This guy's an idiot because listen to the rest of his quote. It's not even Steve Jobs. I'd just be flying around in fucking spaceships That's what he's doing We know if he's a billionaire, he probably, because you're talking about the evaluation of a company, Yep. That like when digital currency I mean, you have to worry about that's a good question because i think because you get you were mentioning earlier that you're

2:33:03 It's in making a play. Yeah. age where they're not relevant anymore. derivatives to me and That's the problem. You don't want to give predictions, but I would imagine, being who you are, that you could fairly accurately predict winners, right? me. I thought Weidman was going to give Hennon Burrow, one of the best fighters on the man. If I wanted to bet money on fights

2:35:53 It's no different in the stock market. Really? then I would think that betting on fights Like who was that guy that got ousted? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. We were in the... And the doctors wouldn't let him fight. He was approved to fight that night. Got it. He could play it. This is a last minute replacement. That's why they do this. What I said. That's your sexy beard, but I look very intoxicated.

2:39:21 And I was like, oh, shit. And then we made the video. At one point in time, we were at 90%. The problem is, because I want one person to win. someone who really immerses himself. Bob Sapp's the huge guy, right? And just running at him. All right. It's over. It flies. We could definitely do this again, though. A lot of fun talking to you, though, man.

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