Joe Rogan Experience #521 — Lewis Hilsenteger Transcript

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0:00 Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out! Drugs are everywhere. Starbucks? They didn't exist? Before, yeah. Washington State's going off now, too, because now they just started selling it. So now the same ripple effect, the same effect that's happening in Colorado, which is they're making way more money than they even planned. You know? You got to stay low, dude. J-R-E coin.

1:58 the board for a variety of different things and it could be really easy for communities passing it back and forth through each other I think that yeah that like as an It was, you know, dudes in suits taking money away from dudes in plaid shirts do you know who michael If I think they're dumb. of income inequality. Because I always wonder, this is obviously like a libertarian slant.

5:37 a liberal is like sometimes people they get on that one team and then they just sort of adopt That's exactly what I was going to say, is I think the separation between rich and poor Like the automakers, for example, get robots in there. not nearly as close as the video makes it seem. Something like that, yeah. trucks that are landing places and dropping off TVs.

8:43 interesting and exciting, and it's kind of flying under the radar in the sense that you have Amazon Prime, you have Amazon Fresh, you have all these ways of getting things that you need without necessarily the same ecosystem, the same chain that you once would have had where you had a delivery man brings it to a store, and then the person in the puts it on the shelf and then you have to go to the store to buy it and you have to go through

9:49 said i got it online and he was like oh man i wouldn't buy anything online put your credit And my mom's not super old, but I think that we just do it, so we think everyone does it. What's frequently done? Once a week. Do you have the answer to that question? Yeah, everyone's gay. All of America? Rural areas, they're all gay. I think they hide it more.

12:07 You can't say urban. oh, you're Canadian, you've been to Toronto a lot, so you know, it's roughly the How you doing? It's definitely a different culture. For sure. And famously, that Michael Moore documentary. statistics coming out of chicago right now are crazy as far as the amount of people that are Keeping it off the street. against a porn star actually perfect yeah the world's running again. He's running against a porn star, actually. Perfect. The world's going to end.

15:22 Well, politics, given the state of our culture, I think the most intelligent, most capable people don't want that job. Yeah, what? online, what the numbers were, but it's overtaking stores, it's saying now. And that's only people that have used the internet. I know that for a fact. Huge. I was talking to him about it. We're taking on that role where it used to be a guy in a blue shirt at a Best Buy who could give a shit about the job.

18:09 it's not the best use of resources to take a bunch of unsophisticated individuals and then allow for him to reach millions. there's definitely this change happening right now where social media is allowing for individuals way they look at it yeah you know you you're building that connection you have this two-way To fake it one way or the other way.

20:49 You're about to go experience this. of getting it opening it etc and imagining that perspective of as being mine you But you would never be able to talk I think maybe it was Virgin. Well, the content delivery device of television. As technology has started to change what online video is, more sophisticated delivery system and in the past sophisticated evolutions of

23:29 That's right. I'll do you one better. rewound they would go oh okay because they didn't know if it was rewound. Which side it was on. Getting back to that conversation about the internet as a delivery method, There's a lot of really big content creators that have branched out in that way and there's some or because I'm in commercials now or whatever it is.

26:00 We'll control the content, but we'll pay you. Like record deals. I don't know find out what the actual well who cares, who cares? Let him do whatever he wants to do. a little too critical. Like, why are you so It's completely contrary which I had never really thought of as a concept. Look at Apple. because people get upset. make things for them, is that the screens are bigger, that you know there's a lot you could watch flash on

28:54 We both snapped the exact same photo unknowingly. like Marcus's. I'll show you the results. just scroll down to the next one look at all the details Look at the detail. is if you scroll down a little more It's fascinating that you guys did that accidentally. that you can you know it is that's why it's so hard there are so many users or Yeah. A totally waterproof phone.

31:21 this really hasn't, Samsung's is IP rated for dust and water. ruined by pouring a drink on it like that's the number one reason phones get ruined i would say Did you push it away? he probably didn't even wash his hands as fuck stop working and then take it to the Apple or call the Apple store, But they used to put little litmus paper in there that would show.

33:11 Well, here's a question. Oh, oh, but but you need it, but but I wasn't gonna do it with the poop ones, right? How many times have you done this? And if you look really close Can you really suck the water out? Dude, listen, I've been sucking on my phone. Who's taking that? Yeah good question. It's a really good question When you've got a guy who's a friend like Justin Martindale

35:54 Is it possible that somebody's experience is exactly the way they want it without coming out? You go, hey, man, some shit I've been meaning to get off my chest. came out as gay out of nowhere, I think, yeah, because you hide it and you breathe it in. Chrysler him and Christ yeah bears they two guys were bears, they wouldn't be obvious. I don't know.

38:15 I'm willing to say that. I have some friends that are a gay couple I know for myself, I don't really want to be defined by anything. When somebody put like, the last thing I want is some kind of label, Right. They want to be them. Are you gay? Yes, queer. Maybe. Wow. I don't think it will be like that forever. It was obviously a tougher time. community, because that means a bunch of queers are

42:04 dude. It's a deep conversation, but it has more to do with... I don't know if those are totally related. like what makes someone gay Oh, you need to meet this kid that lives on my street. It's a blank. and to kind of go back and repair that shit very difficult to do yeah some people never do some They're just not going to do it. That's awesome. right i mean shit can happen to you and you have that moment of interpretation where you can take

46:10 But the pain portion on its own, when you can't justify it, when you can't figure out the end Like they'll put up a YouTube video and then read the comments. them they put themselves out there for no reason my four-year-old there's a swing set he could go on the swing or he could pick one of the posts going to the top and climb all the way to the well to tell people what you did today i was wondering if you were going to talk about it

48:41 Right? Here's the problem with sapphire. it would be shit shit shitty and what a lot of people don't realize is that even if you have a although people crack them anyway, smash them anyways. Essentially, that's the way it's looking right now. no, would not scratch, right? Very durable. durable but i met i was unimpressed because i said well we need to

51:01 I said, on DM, I said, you ever been to a gun range? I like the way it was phrased, though. Fuck yeah. It's like minutes worth, over a minute. we're going to try and give you guys the most accurate representation of the impact that we can because we're about to take over the internet. also from TLD, was there. It was awesome. You know? Growing up, I used to blow up fish.

54:37 Definitely. You know what I mean? Right. Right. But, like, let's say we put some, I don't know, a fucking banana there. What was I going to say? As a viewer, you get to wait. my Vitamix couldn't take I have a Vitamix not blend tech and it couldn't You know what I like about the Vitamix? tech's better even for kale shakes it really liquefies it it brings it down to like a much

57:54 God, good Lord. working on the yukon and there's a river and then the the logs broke loose and they went down current It's really truly dependent on your diet. or a book that I'm into, I'll drag it out. Especially when you've got that iPhone. No. It takes you out of it. Imagine that review. My god. That is supposedly the way you're supposed to shit. I looked it was. Like a platform. That's what it was. Imagine that review. My God.

1:00:15 That is true. Straighten up We've got to fix the morning pee boner problem because that shit, that what you do yeah really that's what you do get close to get one with nature do you have a It's not good for it. I don't know what's in a dog's piss. Yeah, it definitely does. She's old as fuck. Yeah. Some Alzheimer's, kidney Alzheimer's or something like that.

1:02:51 This is all new. Bullets. I put my dog down. It's weird because you don't do that to people. loved ones kill and if they had the choice like people have had there's been situations where a Like if they're still cognizant. Yeah. The Kevorkian guy who... But there needs to be suicide houses. they choose to do it with as little pain as possible. Yeah, you basically would just burst into flames.

1:05:27 I'm sure it's happening. where they the torture and what making everybody watch the torture like that might be more badass who knows whether he's a good guy or not? movie Oh Christ try watching like that was sleepless in Seattle that was like I think that was You've Got Mail. I think that's You've Got Mail. It's famous for that scene. What year was You've Got Mail?

1:07:30 Yeah. right when four years into the internet invasion yeah in our culture that was probably aol number Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then they essentially became a media company, which is what they are now. Bobcat Goldwit, he sent me a fucking AOL email address. and it would find anybody that had AOL around you based on your miles. does not exist. hey, lady, you wanna fuck?

1:09:37 Okay, 7 million posts in the main forum. There's a lot of posts on it. I mean, everyone's got these whacking King Phoenix. I'm going to say 4 million. It's just AOL is still charging them. I'll take 10. I remember, wait a minute, what was that merger? Welcome to the podcast. Yep. But that's an example of how the acceleration is happening now where adaptation is more necessary than ever.

1:12:58 exist but it's because records have become kind of cool yeah like an actual And you watch comic books on an iPad are better. It is better because you're literally going frame by frame. Yeah, and they could do like Netflix, like subscription packages where you just read all you can. Insane amounts of money. spending eight dollars per you know per comic then overall there might be less money there

1:15:27 I don't think it undervalues it at all. I don't know. He is? 0.5. Which is a complete magazine and it was the very first time that we were introduced to Spider-Man. It's only the third comic book to break $1 million. Yeah. would be higher than it is in a subscription-based model. And also, the amount of comics that are released, like new ones that are digitally released.

1:18:19 streamlining the delivery method inevitably cuts money from that transaction. it generates a fuck ton of money. I'd like to see his reaction. I don't know. He's got like a million cars. Who's got better cars overall, him or Leno? He has an online show. His show is more, I mean, it's a little bit about the car, but more about hanging out with unique individuals. I don't mind

1:20:19 marriages. Who the fuck told you to fix but otherwise I feel like you're sort of getting an uncensored version Yeah, they're good ads. I forget who it was. It was in the around with someone. I forget who it was. And, you know, you could tell as he's describing the car. Not even that. They could have been a He's on that and smoking tires. At least you're still doing it your way and fucking up your way.

1:22:51 you're never going to learn as fast as experiencing the failure and, all these different hats so you get to essentially see uh so many different perspectives on on the in an undirected layer. In the back, all of us had ideas. That's right. And I feel like that's what exposes And that's why I feel like YouTube is the place, A million dollars. Bring it, bring bring it and the organic shit will win in fact in fact a couple of years ago maybe a couple of years

1:26:08 think it would change that for you you you you really do enjoy it and love it lot of it the vast majority of it is supported by the fact that brands are paying to be in your face seen YouTube shows where they do it like a Hollywood show where they have makeup artists and producers and directors. There's a guy that's holding the camera and there's another

1:28:19 because it was their job but because it was exciting to try and get an You're either into it or you're not. and the hardcore fans would go crazy then go after them It's true. Relationships and the whole fucking thing, yeah. some cars. car companies didn't want to donate their cars to them and they had a real issue doing that show on and making sure that you're going to get your hands on this stuff.

1:32:08 trying to get a message out there. placement. I think it was on news radio. Things along those lines. There's's that kind and then there's also like where you are supposed to be holding Great product placement, you fuckheads. everything sony vio laptops the worst right now is music videos music videos is no longer a viable Yeah, using them so blatantly obvious like i like i said with this movie i saw the other day

1:35:01 before you even get to work in the morning type thing. Right. Oh, it's a silly fucking movie. Really blatantly obvious product placement. a question of quantity it's not you just gotta the seed man Well, if you're teaching them how to be fuckheads pulling you in and knowing that for three or four dollars you are now you are now uh completely consumed in the culture of all this really expensive stuff in

1:37:35 DuPont Registry is an ad book. Veyron a million five and it's on the cover and you're like what who's this But that's the thing is like, You break the show and the guy comes out and he goes, I got the new Colgate toothpaste. I'm buying a party in a bottle, right? Yeah. it's MKBHD. Awesome reviews. the issues that people have with having a very specific time where you have to tune into something

1:40:34 but i think real decision making happens at a at a much deeper level personally that's my feeling. So awareness is point A, but knowledge is the next step. yeah, And who does it for them? mind blow, look one up later. Again, you're hitting that force field. kind of redefining how we view the information that we get on on each product like it used to

1:42:32 You'd see an ad And there's so many reviews. Because you're like, look up the Toyota Land Cruiser. Quite a bit. iPhone connection. What's that? And the kids watch- Or they can go Bluetooth within the device. they just want to watch it over and over and over No. all the video games since day one. They make nice kids. which is amazing because half of this shit, he sees it come in the house,

1:45:40 give them an ipad they know how to navigate YouTube and that's the craziest part And I and I've talked about this before as well The star rating system. now all that shit's out in the open it's amazing see but here's the thing it's like if if the Not only that, they're from the jump. He probably wouldn't have told you to do it anyway. I mean, those people that are asking that question,

1:48:17 And one of the great things about the book is it says, like, you don't talk about writing so much. I mean, Jesus, you just sit down and go. You know, it's probably the most difficult to get right. are you revealing as much That's what I'm saying. Like I think most of my videos are three to five minutes long, like something versus something else but you don't like limit yourself like you

1:51:14 i'm speaking i guess for the community as a whole have figured out that three to five minutes is setting up, like if you click on one of those At what point does Well, because fucking aggravating They don't feel like they matter. So, like, my, let's say my best viewers. Listen, there are people who are fucking Joe Rogan diehards. Those people matter more to you than the hundred thousand others

1:54:00 Don't tell them they're important. Then they're going to want more attention. We need to find a way to reward the most important in our own communities. That's fine. for instance. I'm a big evangelist Who do you talk to more than anyone else? No. No, no, no, I'm not. See, that counts. In what way would you reward them? Forums to me, when I get in a forum, I feel like I'm in the old internet.

1:56:54 Moderators take lots of pride in being moderators even though they're not getting paid to be moderators. I really want to know who has tweeted It's right there. the beauty and the purity gets more recognition, If you look at my Twitter, one of the things that is about my Twitter that's important to me I can't do everything. I believe that. I completely agree.

1:59:30 That's part of the reason that I love Twitter Are you a fan of the favorite button? No, it doesn't make any sense to me. But why can't you retweet it? Well, favorites do come up, but it's kind of... But you don't put it on your feed so they know that you see them. And there's this growing group of people. No, it's not possible. But that's the kind of stuff I'm talking about.

2:02:13 and still getting work done. the watching of documentaries, the reading of magazines or books. Whereas a personalized tweet, I'm sorry, if you were to sit there all day and answer every tweet you ever got, Like I've done a couple of those Reddit ones. you give someone a free you know a page where it's just an open platform to write things and to write

2:04:49 Lewis from Unbox Therapy. I'm sure it does. Yeah. Yes. show and said some stuff and then got kicked off the radio show anthony yeah yeah and you know Yeah. It doesn't really matter anymore. You Google something and there's a video option for Google to serve up, they'll grab it. for me are an amazing way to learn well it's also you can't hide when if someone writes something

2:08:10 I would so much rather hear you say this It's nothing like plastering your face on Think about the information. That's why we had to send each other letters. those do you know i mean they're kind of silly yeah instagram's pretty big though yeah right but Mostly pictures with context underneath it. Well, we're talking about ultimate expression. Right.

2:11:26 But what about something where, But do they use it for that? Like some of the popular ones that I recognize is this thing where people really like Jordan shoes. You know, I don't know. So you're watching it at home? Just even a picture of shit that I wrote down so people could see my handwriting. That's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. and a bad employee and selfish.

2:14:26 Bob Dylan with that song. No, no, no. But I think – I don't know. It's interesting as well. It's like once upon a time, a celebrity was like vapor. Right. and we can shit all over them. And again it's much like Like, if you have, like, an article, a TMZ article about Kim and Kanye, It's probably second only to porn and that bitch the people that are

2:17:23 or any of these It's on CNN, Sure. Right. is that gossip was a way of keeping monitoring behavior and the sort of reactions to our own behavior in communities where I've been in the same house for ten years I barely know And when there's no gossip, you just go to the gossip of the kings and queens. Yeah. how fucking crazy she is the photos of her with a fucking umbrella wielding it at photographers

2:20:36 traps. Like, if I'm on the web, And it's like if the consumers themselves don't man the fuck up and see a trap when it's there and not click on it. It's a TED Talk on pornography. But it was a guy who actually made these like pretty intense detailed points about what's the real issue with watching pornography. They make love. upon a time, the consumption of porn, I don't know, when I was a kid, I guess, I don't know,

2:23:15 And they'd watch you walk into the back. they were going to be placed on a shelf somewhere that someone could kind of I think it's like both of them. I mean, there's like what two in every town. There's not a lot of stuff there They're both based on some weird... Well, there's obviously still porn for women. and but that's only if you like someone who's a movie star when you talk about kim and kim

2:26:01 So in that sense, she's a way bigger gossip star than any Angelina Jolie story. that's your business. I love that shit because it's just like, oh, my God, look what happened here. He wore that big gold medal around his neck. Here's some ashes. Look at this one. Listen to the tape at the end of the year. Okay? Is it that fucking hard? That's not true either because I know people that have picked up languages late into their 50s and they're fucking awesome at it.

2:29:43 They just chose to do it. I'm not doing it. like to walk around too fine, Well, It was fascinating. put them on a stage in front of a bunch of people and see if you can make them laugh. How many billions are in China? as in Canada. it in Canada, to learn Chinese being white over there in general i know a couple buddies went over there to teach english in korea

2:32:39 Yeah, that kind of makes sense. Boy, we've gotten into it a few times on the podcast. I forget what it's called. Glutathione glutathione right which is uh glutathione is what is it um originally used for i forget what it's originally used for I don't know what the fuck they do. and also got rid of my freckles. I don't know, man. Yeah, tanning. Well, darker, but you know what I mean?

2:35:57 There's enough people on the planet, I guess. There's a lot of people that are just not... we're talking about it's like that where's the content coming from most of ideas? You're the only guy? Well, there was a thing on this television show where this guy was going to Africa. part of their culture like war paint or what weird you Facial preparation yeah and some women if they don't have their makeup on and another girl is around

2:39:10 God damn it. Mm-hmm. murdered. There's a lot of shit that's not For a woman, it's really never. you see like other than sparring in an actual martial arts environment it's But there's a big article recently about this one girl died We fucking killed it. It was fun to smash shit and it was fun to do podcasts with you. in for a free trial. That's Shipping is free both ways.