Joe Rogan Experience #532 — Shooter Jennings Transcript

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0:00 Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out! listening to the music and go, I love that stuff. the audit. Oh man. the read the book commercials. And you know about Excalibur? there's a copy of it and no one ever knows where that is but that was like where Scientology was like the l ron hubbard guy he had a book in that. It was called The Sword or something instead of Excalibur.

3:22 This is the kind of shit I like to talk about. him hung and it goes and like analyzes like the people in the mob and analyzes the executioner behind dianetics is that they can take the memory what they call a reactive memory which is like the Yeah. I think you give them 10%, especially at the highest levels. and someone told us hollywood and vine yeah right yeah that's crazy right it was like do you remember

6:12 If this was 20 years ago, you'd have an issue, mac store that i buy hard drives and i saw that across the street i didn't know that was a And I'm like I'm the kind of guy who's like I don't – whatever problems and issues i've had in my life i work through them like i've It's like, come on down. being uncooked out of his face and like how he's like scientology rules and he's like looking for

8:42 that were close to suicide. So this means we have to hang out. kind of drugs that change your mental you know and sometimes like you said sometimes it does There's people that just have natural chemical imbalances in their brain. Some people benefit from them tremendously. Well, maybe not. wacky but also undeniably successful the guy is explains why he's always in a fucking good mood all the time it's like he's like i'm really good

12:19 You know somewhere he's going home fucking punching somebody's lights out. Yeah, that's uncomfortable when you you like you know if yeah, why be a Scientologist when you're just some guy? like anyone who does any kind of art yeah as kind of a superior being well in a way like listen okay Tom Cruise runs marathons. I did it. I mean, you'd have to have someone who doesn't know who you are.

14:54 They had to sell water to people that came out of a hose. And it's like two cans. I'm sure because they're trying to convince someone to come back and watched other people do it. it's so it's one of those things where like there's a bunch of people in on a joke what everything about what they believe all of the operating things manual I Yes. Yeah, it's so good.

18:28 god it's genius but there's like a there's like a whole thing where jim carrey characters care that was in on the lie like you'd have to have everybody with you that was working with you like whole thing with that because it's like what is the fucking difference like first of all there's Like, yeah. 94 yeah it was right around there. Somewhere around there, right?

21:20 and you're going to be crying when it happens. I mean? So it's like, to me, it all seems so silly when people get so riled up, like they, essentially like like do anything you hedonism right essentially yes but but like the writings and you'd be terrified. That's what I'm saying. I mean. it filters everything out, so the water comes out really pure and delicious to drink.

24:14 Yes. To me, like you said, it's so fucked up, like they're they look at they're trying to look at corporations as if these entities should be trouble for right and if you did that then it would change the actions entirely of the corporation Then you find out about it all later. I mean, there's so many people that don't have a voice. They got raises.

27:37 but until you figure out a way to not have these big groups of people that have this diffusion of responsibility, the corporations usually and and it's like the like i can't believe what what three companies Like I think if that happened now that we wouldn't hear about it. No. That was the first one we heard about. The whole system has just been set up

29:51 It's just so much. complaining about it online or writing blogs or doing this and it's akin to trying to grab a hold fight any of it is just by not doing it you know i mean like just just whatever but at this point But most people just walk through life and accept that and just say that's the way it is. just like man this is insane it was like the scariest little point of time you know and and

33:13 man, when I was, I was in New York living at the time when the occupy wall street thing happened. There were people in the trees. But greatest scene. that thing and everybody's just laughing about it that all that occupy stuff to me it signals that that you don't hear a peep about invading Syria. talking about the inevitable invasion of syria it just doesn't exist anymore because the right

36:11 I forget which dictator it was. Everyone worries. If the shit hits the fan, if the shit hits the fan like that, and all of a sudden you've got three or four million people that are showing up on the White House lawn, and then they start storming en masse, and they literally call for the president's head and rip him apart on national television. end it's like it wasn't enough you know what i mean there that's what happens when when liberals go hit like go protest and then there's when the

38:42 well it doesn't matter if it's the cloud because they're going right into your goddamn email. drinking with like everybody gets monitored and you all become suspects you all got mine i got started getting monitored after i went on this show oh before you even decided to know that game the world of warcraft yeah it's Yeah, it's like an online role-playing game

40:22 in World of Warcraft that they had to assign I'm going to go in an online game. and then everyone tries to cover it up, Oh, it's great. I think I'll be okay. Let's spy on everybody. They like spied the people that were in the office. Yeah, there you go. Do you think that they're involved in, are they terrorists? Are they the enemy? Are theyying on the fucking senate looking in do you think that the senate is bad do you think that they're involved in are they terrorists are they the enemy are they working

43:27 willing to die over this shit and tell you about it you know yeah and before I didn't realize that was on the Obama page. Like, when America has to say that, you know what I mean?'s like fuck we're fucked it's like howard stern says man you know else's because i mean it's probably just getting worse for the other kids but you know we saw And it's like, Holy fuck.

46:16 of like like televised or published or uh you know uh broadcast in certain ways newspapers of like he'll still tell you like i'm goddamn so happy to be in america of course because you're And we're like, all right. fucking sandy hook and all these terrible things that are happening and and everyone wants to focus They're putting Americans at risk. were on people's cars.

49:11 Yeah. But yeah. fahrenheit 9-11 movie and you're like we're looking at that and everybody's looking in this Thanks, man. involved in government and sometimes people they misconstrue conspiracy they they think of its and they did. when you start labeling a bunch of shit conspiracies these 9-11 guys there's photos that people said look it's clear that thermite cut this steel and

53:02 the first thing i think about is the biggest one is what happened with Osama bin Laden. Yeah, a lot of people, special ops people, say that he's been dead forever. It helps anyone in government because it also shows that anytime there's any sort of a cataclysmic disaster, UFOs are a perfect one, right? all that i've heard about all the shit about the murder the killing room they had up there or

55:49 a house that was up in the hills like they had it during the uh illegal uh bootlegging era wow And I never saw shit. fucking proof man i mean these people write these fucking books and go on these talk shows and say It's, And they either dream this shit up or they're taking Ambien walking around in no i didn't did you see it because it was, yeah, because they had this lady who's supposed to be the real lady,

58:29 I've interviewed a ton of those for that television show, and I sat down. I thought it was a wolf for about four seconds at the most. It was a squirrel. That's like the joke with no punchline thing. working and i was drunk i was just drinking downstairs there may be somebody down that you know but in this moment i was like i'm alone and is they lose their ability to make good decisions yeah yeah because it's back after a couple days

1:01:35 And then they get arrested and they're pulling meth out of their ass. And someone, I think it was Vanity Fair, GQ, one of those. People are like, are you out of your fucking mind? I've got to find that article. that fucking car on fire nothing's gonna happen you know that's that's so i know i've known plenty But I mean, it's funny to call it meth because it's crank or speed.

1:04:11 you can stay up for like 10 hours you know if you want to and then those guys like that's why fucking like he'll you know there's some tons of sad stories guys with kids and shit that are just the worry the worry that people have is that you do it once and that you're you're gone no it's That's in the south where they were like real fast and all of a sudden you're like, fuck, I've got to do more cocaine all the fucking time.

1:07:21 at a at a party you know then you're gonna have a problem with crank but That's I love weed. ditch and i'm like fuck i probably shouldn't have done that crank yeah it's those speedy ones they I used to live on, I've lived all over this town, but Santa Monica and Gardner, there's an Ashtaburger right there. of anything that makes people maniacs you know that's the the big fear yeah the bath salts craze

1:10:10 was that the coal miners were doing that and it wouldn't show up on the tests. but it still has some pretty significant response in the human body. smoked a cookie and probably done less damage you are you know i'm getting them like the day they come out they come out of the chicken boom i'm frying them and then it's a dark like an orange yolk so dead like if i go to a restaurant a diner

1:12:21 It's funny. been my my it's never been my thing like i like guns i've i've gone shooting guns and things like that but but i've never i've just never really done it would you be into doing it i mean Oh, I love it. But there are certain people that are like, and my wife would never kill, you never go their own meat and, And second of all, I know. and neither one of us hit nothing like we would go fishing every once in a while uh tony joe white

1:14:47 I watched way more horror movies with my dad. So that was kind of more of our activity, And let's not even say Nashville. But I mean, you know, it's funny because now it's like someone, if they're critical of, like, I don't represent myself pretending to be like anything I'm not. Man, these jeans are perfectly pre-torn. they've they've been you know really really wearing it out yeah but they

1:17:42 get holes in them because they're just old and shitty. Yeah, but not, like, cool looking shirts like your shirt. This shirt is based on Terrence McKenna's stoned ape theory that lower hominids ate mushrooms, actually substantiated with science in a way that's way better than I ever could. And they really have no idea what caused human beings to become so much more intelligent than they were previous.

1:19:55 This is like they've dropped and they've gone. Exactly. I don't remember it either. well you do know if a bunch of monkeys are walking around and one of them eats mushrooms and all It grows out of cow shit. You develop language. that song itself talks about dmt and psilocybin and stuff in it. Okay, I won't. Sturgill's like, you got to try it, dude.

1:23:03 You pass through into some new space. of what's going on and what you're seeing. that's more real like it's more you feel it you also feel if this makes any sense you I mean, these are endogenous chemicals. you have this wild ride of hallucinations and experiences If you do it intravenously, it can last like a half hour or more. being brought to alien places and alien lands like very very similar reptiles yeah so he started

1:26:39 produced by the pineal gland that's that was a long time for that was speculation but they've Yeah. But DMT is in so many different plants that if you got it from eating it, you would be tripping your balls out every time you have a salad. see, in modern – like today in the United States, in the modern chemical world, in so it's like a dmt trip but it's not quite as intense it's a it's a slow release longer version

1:29:26 I'm very fascinated by this. there's there's a fractal geometric nature to life itself the Fibonacci that I feel like when you unlock those kind of things in your mind I just, you know, I think if your mind is open to it So hard. Yes. that it's impossible like when you're seeing it like this isn't real this can't be possible that look at this and they kept saying look at this and every time they would say look at this they

1:32:54 like a million times more insane it was cleansing you as you saw it like everything that i saw made me every time i saw it every new and bullshit related things it really didn't matter in the long like like the negative aspect you have to be willing to give in but i mean i'm that's the thing is man it's like i'm i'm that bitcoin thing which we haven't even gotten into and i'm i mine those things i'm into the technology

1:35:56 studying, like, the Egyptians and studying the fucking artwork. Jesus. of the people that are involved in that group. And then to have an open-minded, completely open Open up to page 324. when this asshole who's wearing robes. You know, people are mad. We could get into that forever because I've, you know, just conceptually the way that the control is is is you

1:39:10 Because poor, you can just deal with being poor. bright eyes no uh connor oberst have you heard him no you know those guys they have a great know that's a big part of it and it's it's so insane it's just it just is insane and it's just like something that was supposed to kind of drive the development of it but it's become it's become a It is amazing.

1:41:57 And so then they're going to start extorting money to go back into their own pocket like like in fucking egypt and they cut they cut the internet you know and shit like that that's you know, it's just tough, or I could write a song, you, the government, I think there's definitely powers that are trying to subvert it. That's what it is. Yeah, and once you get used to buying things with your phone, which is probably the future.

1:45:02 On eBay, though. like start accepting Bitcoin. just recently. No one's going to ever. This will never become normal. And,'re going to have to come up with some easier way to do it no one's going to ever this will never become normal and you know it's like here we But I do think it'll be, You could go, hey, man, go to the grocery store and go get some food, and here's the money.

1:47:02 See, like the mining thing, man, it's like some people think of it and they're like, oh, it's like people who want to just like make free money, which is not the way it works. gonna collect some money for them to just email your song over to itunes in the correct format Or that iTunes, rather, takes that much. Don't talk to us about MP3s. gets downloaded from a host like a torrent yeah i have a company called the company's called libsyn

1:50:20 So they have the control over that, cuts off that like the beatles i bet you money they're not taking 30 of the beatles but they There are certain artists Coors Light buys services that are people that were at one point worked for the what i mean so like the Do you know what I mean? It's controlled by the biocoms of the world who are putting it on the television,

1:53:01 involved in these kind of processes, like why would, of the billboards and the awards and all that all that stuff is just for show you know what i mean trips to disneyland for their whole family and like five other people you know to fucking play like this record that The XXX thing was something website with that and it was kind of just a play on triple a radio and i was like i don't know i

1:55:54 like looking at this and i'm like man it's like i've been doing my show for nine years i was like lights i've never seen that shit before oh they're space yeah yeah man i mean it's the vibe in this It doesn't feel corporate. bought 300 000 copies of it first week so they would make sure that it went number one But I think they get pissed that I say it.

1:58:08 And you know, It's just like, like the bilderberg group where they in music and in movies and things i mean i know everybody and certain record labels, And it's like, that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. it's the short-term victory that they want and it's like the long-term like people like us you It's like the point of the movie a little bit is that.

2:01:54 and they took the last scene out of the movie So on Vudu, I was trying to figure out a way when I was traveling on the road in a car So I was like, And that one has the deleted unicorn scene in it and what so that was kind of the implied but the whole thing is like you know if she's one if he's one Like, back then, like like the idea of a robot that

2:04:30 In like this, the company that hologrammed, the company that made the Tupac hologram and the Michael Jackson one, they reached out to me. Wow. So it looks right. over there and that that he he he told people he was really rich and he had like three percent of Save me Obi-Wan or like the fucking Sith Lord guy appearing like talking to Vader. What? Wow So he's not really there. Yeah, he's not there.

2:07:41 And he was standing there. Let him walk in again, Jamie. First of all, he's wearing a dress. What's that all about? He's wearing white tights and a dress. Man, isn't it crazy? they were these hoods so they had like five clone bands they had wore masks they were these hoods so they had man that'd be i would be righteous though if i was watching fucking like you know

2:10:19 They started it with Will.i.am, Pull it back so you can see him appear. um in chicago it's a beautiful time in los angeles my mom what's the purpose of this Cut to everybody fucking hates him. He was going to be the president of Haiti Wyclef Jean Another one. Do you know what I'm talking about? it was a giant burst of wind from Howard Stern's ass that hit the Malaysia plane

2:13:10 you boy, he wrote an email to Howard Stern's people. And he totally said he bullshitted his way all the way through it. Like, you know, MSNBC, like, is in all this trouble. Crystal Ball, I can forgive her. uh, cut it. because some editor fucked up and they said it on air. Yeah, so there's was another one. Four different names, and they all got fired because some editor fucked up.

2:15:01 I forget what New York Daily News hoaxed. everyone's paying attention to this. It's like nightly news. slowly but surely and also the format is so bizarre. Like the evening news, like the Los Angeles evening news, oh this is a real guy and he's telling me about some real stuff but if you watch the average to figure out what's right and what's wrong and and then when you have disinformation thrown into

2:18:24 Hall famous writer. wrote a lot of really nutty shit about like alien bases on the moon. Yeah, he got into some shit like that in there. Was he? so they did they they had so he moved his family away and they came after him for tax evasion and and when he wouldn't comply they sent the u.s marshals in there and uh and they shot at him and fascinating and in the hour of the time i wanted to take the first episode of it and print it on

2:21:02 Or maybe he owed a lot of taxes and he got in a shootout with the federal marshals who came to arrest him. And I tossed it across the room. Yeah, he... moon landings yeah i've heard that they said they would fund they would give him unlimited access to because, see, with no frame of reference Reality Sandwich is a website. I'm not convinced about any of it, to be honest.

2:24:10 It just says, just a month before Apollo 11 astronauts Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong had left their colleague Michael Collins aboard Starship Columbia and walked on the moon, beating by five months President Kennedy's goal of putting a man on the moon before the end of the decade. I saw some things on TV that made me wonder because of the fact that, especially then and where technology is,

2:25:54 those are fucking rocks that were in space that made their way down to earth but they get eaten do this contrast thing where it kind of compares the 2001 monkey scenes to the, Front screen or rear screen or whatever it is. instead of adding it later, And this Reality Sandwich article shows the use of this front screen projection method and how it mimics, I think that's what it's called, how it mimics what the shots looked like from the moon landings. The real issue with the moon landings is how few, if you stop and think about between 1969 and 1972 yeah that that's when all these

2:28:32 the best grades in science and math and all these different things, and they're all there It's almost like if the moon landings were real, like they're clearly fucking with everybody. It is pretty crazy that the last time people went was 1972. you're like bitch nobody went there yeah you're like, bitch, nobody went there. Yeah, you're like, you did not.

2:30:17 Yeah. That's the fun one. yeah they got us into i mean that's way crazier than the idea of just faking a trip Like, what if everything was true? Yeah, that's too far. Yeah. I mean, I don't know if the actual rock was handed to them It was given to them 50 years. So fucking dumb. Yeah. around and be like man look at this shit i mean you don't think we would be like la la whatever

2:34:58 Maybe, but maybe it looks a lot like a rock that you brought back and you'd think it was. moon landings took place So they collected a lot of these to examine There's missing moon rocks. Man. it just rolls it's like seamless information flying all over the place from you know back and forth i think we started talking about scientology and did not was packing like Sunday night me and like like i was packing like sunday night me and

2:38:38 my manager and buddies we go in there and play and kill each other and like do that kind of stuff or I don't do Facebook. But then I got a little overwhelmed by it. but yeah, I had just started to creep into facebook and started to enjoy it i was like posting pictures of And so then you've got this constant network Yeah, and just to fuck with you, sometimes someone i never go back and forth with people i just i used to it's stupid it's a waste

2:41:57 One time I said something. And I was like, phony, more of the phony shit. and it says i've got like lots of mentions and the number just keep going up and i like and like it I was like, that's not worth it. He hangs out at the comedy store sometimes. But isn't there two sides to that too? Yeah, yeah, yeah. His version of Free Fall On, which was like all these like 12 year old kids think John Mayer wrote this song.

2:44:51 See, that makes you a better man than I in this situation And I was like, that's what flipped the switch for me. It was something so like that doesn't work. Great Woods is this place in Mansfield, Massachusetts that has these concerts. And all the security people were assigned to stop people from bringing in booze. day of work i don't know if i punched out i don't remember shit but i remember saying to myself

2:47:15 Because it was just so crazy. and that's like you know yeah Neil Young's the shit you know he lives up in Nobody buys iPods. to jump into but yeah although you know a guy like him like i mean they they they crowdfunded it yeah that's because yes it's a silly argument yeah but they're pointing out in this article about it that it doesn't mean jack shit if you don't have really good headphones behind it.

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