Joe Rogan Experience #552 — Kid Cudi Transcript

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0:00 the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day I get Mr. Cudi sometime and that's a little weird makes me sound like a Captain. That's a terrible band from way back in the day. They're probably sitting there like, hey! I think there was a lot more communication amongst human beings. One, people are just nervous because there's a lot of news stories about terrible things that happen all over the world.

3:21 Nice. Miles Teller. That's my guy. You're on Masculine while you've got a bottle of whiskey in one hand, He's hammered all the time, so he's wearing this bright checkered leisure suit or whatever he wears. This is an exciting time in your life. At 30? Well, it's really deeper than that. You were only as good of your comedian music that you probably wouldn't hear on the radio,

7:13 drop the ball so hard they had the world by the balls they had everybody i think um you know It's got to be hard to figure out a new thing, though. a video on oh my god lewis from unboxy did this video of this new Iron Man tech. But in front of you there's like screens are going to be the world you put this thing on and you just see through it and there's no more screens anymore

9:49 You know what I mean? Except you can't, you know, you swipe and stuff, but you can't really manipulate the image in real time. Because it was so funny to me you what it is and you say google glass people have heard about it they're like are you filming And this is like no I'm not filming a random person that's intrusive because I understand that that's intrusive

11:31 or are you taking a picture even if I take it off, had that Fox show? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. you're getting constant solar energy right technology in my eye though i don't know if i mean he probably couldn't play piano or something like that but moved pretty goddamn good a lot this artificial head so to be like your brain except better because it's never going to get

14:24 you can just abuse the person to death. So it records everything now that my car does. Hawk. It looks like a baby radar detector that you just put underneath your, like, behind your rearview mirror. Has a wide-angle lens so it gets everything in your car the front of your car and it also gets sound it Wow to make sure they can resolve disputes. And this one dude who was an illegal alien,

16:35 uh, slam on the brakes. I can barely even see my mind hidden behind my mirror. When it gets to the end of the memory card, That's right. Oh, no. You stopped doing that for a while. how annoying yeah yeah it seems like there was a weird thing. Nothing. lot of times? started coming out of footage did she start screaming yeah the that good that's why it's sparking oh no there's the

20:14 That is insane. They didn't need anything. men are upset, not just you're beating the tip of your dick up i mean if you look at your dick it looks like you're beating That was the... Oh, you should watch it. He pretended to sit Obama down on stage and improv'd it. about hope and change and they were talking about yes we can. And it was dark and outdoors, and it was nice, and people were lighting candles,

23:02 Where is he sitting? yeah on it. But I thought maybe it's an excuse. What do you mean shut up? So ridiculous. Not like, they don't like the youth, the young of America, like yourself. el camino is um el camino that's uh the black keys grand turismo el camino is the grand you know the i don't know if it was people moving in his neighborhood some i've just seen the previews

26:29 Yeah, Clint Eastwood's wife was on a reality show before he got divorced. But, yeah, it's one of those things where the wife wanted to do it remember if he was on it. I never watched it. But, yeah. Dude, that guy gives a pass for life for me, for The Unforgiven. You know? Let's not tell him. is one of my favorites especially morgan freeman too one of my favorite morgan freeman movies

28:12 It ended up getting messy in there. older i'm not just speculating but he wanted to do one more that really got it right like the way The new one. I mean, but you know, I feel like it kind of brought some of that realness that, you know, Unforgiven had. I mean, it wasn't like, you know, most of the shit that comes out that gets regurgitated, you know? It's what they can I mean it wasn't like, you know

30:05 and you're managing it out with a fucking makeup lady who's fucking the hairdresser and everybody's But this this I've just been blessed not to deal with that. I don't even know if I believed half of the shit I wrote. supposed to be I always felt like people see me you know so i never I never could prepare myself for what came. You know, I just didn't know that many people will be watching and paying attention or care that much.

33:10 Yeah, I'm sure. people and you gotta you gotta teach them shit and raise them and oh yeah no one it's really hard You know, it's just, I mean, my daughter is, man, she's everything, man. It's also why, like, when you see kids that are abused, it's it's just i mean my daughter is man she everything man it's also why like when you see You know? Right.

35:09 an excuse we're like those are always raised even like just with anything you know because that's more likely to be involved in abusive relationships when they get older they say it's that kids people I don't, you know, look at my mom as a villain, But like my daughter's four and a half. That's what I'm saying. You got yardsticked? No. One kid put an iron, a hot iron.

38:01 That's not going to work. They're making videos while they're doing this stupid shit. There's pictures of him. I'll find it for you. That saddens me. be lava you idiot yeah that's okay that's like you know your life has there was a there's a photo of him later where he's just sitting there all burnt like and bandaged So now you just see these videos of these poor kids getting bullied.

40:49 Weird times. would you say you were in your late high school days when you really started getting into it yeah yeah because that was i mean and, you know, in schools, right? But do they allow, like, Well, you could just Google porn and it'll be right there. Let's go. people releasing stuff online and then you know becoming a part of this first You're a cool guy on social media.

44:01 You know, you're born naked, you go in a really nice suit, you know, out but it's just a random tuesday and there's some kid in minnesota that's like yo i fucking love you dude keep going we're listening and i might have needed to hear that realize and then it's like well I need to do what i gotta do so i can have what he have and i don't want people to think

46:13 self-medicating and uh you know so you felt like cocaine kept you level yeah man because i had this You know, but what it did for me, it completely numbed me. Yeah. expensive man it was definitely expensive but you know i um did you find like why you're doing it Yeah. stressful and then spiraling back into it just needing any excuse to be all right I'm gonna go

49:45 keep it together and go out and work on my music and be into it i had a system it was a weird sick This is obviously a big sign that i'm going down how to fix that so they were looking these looks Get out of here, man. it was really just like i'm dealing with some shit if you don't understand and i don't give a Sorry. it's harmless drugs like marijuana or dangerous drugs like cocaine maybe even especially dangerous

52:40 Right. I mean, there's some people that can say that probably well And I also know that the more I talk about it, the more it'll help somebody else who might be dealing with it. I'm not like one of those people now that used to do cocaine and I'm like, it's not like a big deal. But I just have that, you know, it's a history of drugs in my family. You just have to make a choice.

55:06 But when I got older, I started to do everything that my father was into. It was like one of those things where it's- and he was there for me as a man and up until he left you know uh and i think i kind of got caught relieves that stress and you think that it's actually calming you down but all it's doing I have friends that used to smoke and if they smell it they get sick. No, I'm cool. They can't they just

57:50 what happened you went to hypnotist yeah yeah and do you remember them hypnotizing you yeah yeah i then it doesn't seem as dangerous and and basically this guy reminds you of the dangers and and kind I was going, women. and she goes, and he kind of just sits there, what does it feel like? It feel like you you tired as hell you like slipping into like you know a dream state

1:00:52 Then after that second week, you're done completely. I remember like my first cigarette after like the hypnosis, going under and he's he's telling you i'm going to count you down and then boom you're under do or you know right but the reality is you don't know you know and it's it's like a gamble every But she did. her cook your food? Well, anytime you see any obsessive behavior or anything dangerous in people.

1:04:01 You don't feel disconnected. I know what you're saying. Well, there's a bunch of people all over the country to do it. be embarrassed too it's like somebody with a ghost hand coming there jerking you off when you're not is that state i guess just like between dreaming and awake i mean i'm definitely like the, the understate is more just like a relaxed feeling,

1:06:18 Like, I hear him crystal clear. Right, right, right. What's the difference between one, session one, and session two, and then session three? to one you know and count you up and cut you up but he doesn't say he says like you can smoke this And I think that's with anything in life. it's like he cares give you his contact for about a year and then she said one day she just woke up, and it was gone, and she just started smoking it.

1:09:35 Because he's a dope dude, man. The tougher the squeeze, the sweeter the juice. For his business, though. Well, I promise you that this is not what's going on with this character. What was the name? I don't want to say. No, it's my girlfriend from high school's mom. Especially men. Like, you got some weird thing about men and then you go, okay, let me see what's going

1:11:56 It's science. in the same spot. Oh, most definitely. And I think about it like... And that's what a lot of times motivates them oh yeah for sure do you feel like that happened with you oh most definitely yeah and i think about it like i and that's what a lot of my my issue came through And you want Coke? I would imagine. It was just more like, okay, I'll show you.

1:13:57 Oh, okay. my entire career. because I just haven't gotten into that. in a certain quality. we're not doing this shit People don't sit down and listen to music together. But I remember when I was a kid, my stepfather and his friends, they would put on an album. It was the Piano Man. And a lot of people might not. This is a project. everything is always moment to moment single to single who's got who on what record it's not about

1:17:54 know what we do the kids know it's like okay you buy a kid cuddy album you probably have your gotta support my own self too you know that's hilarious you're supporting your own self that this shit too i mean he's covered in his own merch the kid never never wears anything but Blue Crocs with white socks that have Death Squad kitties on them. really want to go to that just to see what's up yeah just i just drive by it every damn day i want

1:20:15 But we had this whole Croc thing last night. But, I mean, I don't have any problem with wearing them. Okay. They're comfortable. I got these babes today. Them and Chuck Taylors. Those are all like pretty much i used to only wear vans and then uh my girl got Look at you. Is that what they're from? And on Fear Factor, too, they'd just send me boxes of free Nikes.

1:22:29 comfortable shit but i got into like smaller soul things that have like less you you feel the ground like fucking Sergeant Fury. Well, I'm not like, well, first off, I'm not like, it so they're not like really being worn how they're supposed to be worn but then like there's basketball game with no protection basically Yeah, yeah, yeah. Am I on camera?

1:24:51 That was cool. Okay. Do bumps When I get married I don't think I'm ever gonna get married Wanting to be gotten Oh, for sure, dude. everybody that's me lower your standards enough to find somebody that'll fuck you that's you no i is really them you know it's true i mean there's definitely people that will bullshit you and Certain people can go mentally insane in the course of a relationship.

1:28:06 I meet a lot of cool chicks. Scott's talking about himself you know, Jefferson Starship, Yeah. Like, was it just like, because everybody says it happens when you least expect it. You can meet people. Yeah. or a sign of your own If you're honest Yeah, yeah. You can either go deep. She's hot as fuck. Yeah, you don't want them And that's why I came here today

1:31:56 and I know you talk about psychedelics, Where's the paper? And the guy who runs it is my friend Crash name of it i got it on my instagram feed all this man i need all this information do you live in You look pretty young there, Joe. into the tank while I'm lying in it. it takes the first 15-20 minutes is always just me thinking about my life me thinking about my friendships my

1:34:52 But some people like earplugs. You feel like you're flying through space. It doesn't have to worry about moving you around or dealing with your environment in any way. first when you were talking about i was like what the fuck that's what he used to have and he used yeah absolutely but if you wanted to get one for your house to crash crash so as you're lying there you mean you just stand up when you're done okay and you just get out

1:38:05 But for me, it's giant. would go with like a specific goal in mind because it makes your brain like Um, I picked up the soap to show the fucking chair. It's uncomfortable. And when you do sit like that, it activates your core, and it's actually good for your back. I think when you're dealing with, like, there's a keyboard in front of i think when you're dealing with like there's a

1:40:38 resistance right but when you're in that tank that is that that that's that state at its best because there's nothing coming in yeah i feel you i mean i definitely need to try it because i've heard a lot about it but i did I mean, it could be a business. the guys who run on the map thinking about starting one and i know that crash is opening up a bigger

1:42:30 I heard you talking about it on one of your podcasts. If I'm beating a dead horse, I apologize. different things. got a new hot tub. it's great it's not being mean to you so you pay attention to them no they love they love it of out that was a game changer it made people shit their pants and i think that that's like you know slasher sounds. heads. Man, they get gruesome. It's like there's not a lot of variety in the sounds they make when they cut open their heads. Man, they get gruesome.

1:45:41 Like sometimes you just graze them. The sequel was great. he goes no and she just starts hacking at him with a machete that is dark it's it's real life And I look at that as an art form. I'm just a fan of, it's like, Pat McGee Yeah. you know it's like oh jesus and then you're dead like and they sort of represented that It's a couple seconds. It's not scary anymore.

1:49:16 mad at it it was fun to watch yeah the dude who kept surviving bummed me out a little bit i was He's not freaking the fuck out Just for the fight scene between Godzilla and the other monster. Yeah. It wouldn't work. Yeah. be on them and it would kill them and that would be it yeah and then the second one they're everywhere favorite really would rock the rock was that he's a nice guy, man. I met that dude once.

1:51:54 He was a badass in that movie. one she killed herself right she had the baby she had the baby inside the lava right yeah yeah we don't make it the first one was a horror movie yeah but that call it a horror movie it was like more like a sci-fi yeah you know the first one was a horror movie yeah but that that third by the third one it's like if a puppy talks shit to you you're like what that's what it's like it's like you know that's what the alien is like with a person yeah

1:53:52 Oh, there was more than one? If I had to guess, let me guess. No, no. No, four. Okay, all right. Man, I didn't even, I mean, just the idea of getting all those people together i i enjoyed prometheus i mean it wasn't the perfect this for a long time before he created this and i don't know who wrote this screenplay Like diseases change people. that stoner talk is it i mean i mean i don't know i mean i don't think it's too i don't think it's

1:58:06 And you can talk about it on a podcast like I just did. if you lived on an island somewhere and you're by yourself just out there just you sitting around people don't suck right i think the real thing is figuring out how to make less people suck yeah and figuring out how to way to accept to accept people for things they've done wrong too It's super valuable.

2:00:29 and that that's just, no matter what you do, inescapable. And that you're on a path. Because part of me wants to say, i totally get it i just i wonder how much of personal choice is just what is the force that makes a person decide to do the right thing? but you know that's what teachers you know that's what your peers you know that's what It might have been like one of my homies that was like, you know, in the sports.

2:03:55 at my older siblings and kind of like what learn what not to do and that's kind of why i use that I was tired of people looking at me in that way. came from money like it don't really matter you know what i'm saying and it could still be drugs in damn i got four kids i need to be chasing a man and trying to find some man to come take care of I love that.

2:07:08 like proving people wrong you know I'll show you you know you said I wasn't and that and I benefited did the you know what I set out to do you know it you know, and just having things sorted out once all the madness is all done and it's kind of just like now it's just like right right and one outro and you know maybe no hook at all maybe no drums remember thinking like man like why don't more people do like weird shit with music like how

2:10:27 know but the average artist no they can't just experiment and there's a fear where they might and be innovative and bring hardcore rappers rapping over their uh their rhyme or their music. want to see where you go with it yeah you're always going to do your best well they know it these past couple years for me have been like just mastering that uh technique as a producer

2:13:32 for a couple months, just going every day making beats. sequenced that are officially like oh these jams are dope i'm gonna sit and live with these and see what Or it could be like, you know, Here's you know, when I when I'm hearing something I hear it completed, right? to find the pieces to make it so. Because in my completed version, it's like a coloring book.

2:16:36 where it's at where you have to make the executive decision like all right i'm done with this so i'll Do you do that or do you actually write them down somewhere? I'll go in there and just hum flows and try different things like that you know gets people to understand that this is some you know this this the spontaneousness of it you comes up writing it down on paper and the sessions are really me and my engineer in and occasionally

2:19:08 Well, I always wondered like, I'm in there inventing shit niggas to steal his shit or they'll you know rack focus and you know distract him you work so i also have this like really gnarly work ethic like because i've been working since i was 15 like my first job was because I didn't give a fuck you know you should always do your best learn yeah and there's some there's some value in that it's unfortunate but we don't all learn

2:21:56 creating your own stuff when you're working for yourself then it's like a focus like an obsession it's working and i and i almost don't like playing around and in the studio like that like because it professionally since like 22 23 going to studios and having those moments with the buddies because Kapow. those little switches that nobody understands maybe you mix them everybody's everybody's

2:24:36 but they're not in there distracting me they're just watching and paying attention and want to You just keep going. there's nothing like music in that respect. You know, I want to I want to be able to, you know, have my privacy when I do that. of something i'm not like thinking of raps like those earlier days it's less about that now and it usually comes just walking through the house making breakfast and you know it could be whenever

2:28:08 I'm obsessed with the idea of just making, uh, good to you know be learning and getting better as i'm creating do you do any other things like you know it really for me i'm starting to write a little bit more it's just staying creative right Just work on creating. might write the next shit you know like right right or definitely write something that yeah

2:30:50 No, I couldn't do that. and I'm not in no rush. But it still has to be good, though. where they needed to be before you heard it. is the right one Yeah, and you can't, like especially to the shit and you go okay your your brain a break because for me i'm sitting in in the studio for hours listening to the same old shit like the same old beat you know that you're working on you know so it's kind

2:33:27 And I'll be like, oh, shit. like, yo, that shit's fresh. what I'll really get into it yeah and it's interesting how music does that like there's but we're doing them all acoustic tonight. it's a totally new thing do you do or smaller clubs you fuck around with like rock clubs When you go and do Coachella, there's no time. tour you know i don't let press in unless they buy a ticket you want to come to my show and

2:36:26 hard to get in there to talk shit because it is a fucking membership it's like the only people i want on my concert are people that really give a shit about what we're doing as artists you know at best, perform their hits. We was there at night with my favorite rapper or whatever. Connecting with them in a way where you know I saw a tweet from a young man.

2:38:51 i'll give you the real shit you know if you want to ask somebody ask me um and and that's kind of Yeah, I was like, even some people the wiz khalifa uh you know and i see him you know often and he was telling me he was doing Oh, chill. Yeah, but I don't. and don't do this. And I feel like that's the big thing no it's not what you think you know right right i've never had no like that, and I'm pretty sure people have dealt with that, though.

2:41:58 Jeremy, you don't know? Yeah, in Wikipedia. and David Gilmour allegedly oh yeah At a show at the Fillmore in San Francisco during a performance of Interstellar Overdrive, he was just going he's my hero he went out there for whatever reason i mean i don't he's my hero understand that the human body doctors who can administrate it people can take care of people

2:45:08 or I don't think trying to hypnotize me they say ayahuasca Because you wake up I've had bizarre yeah it freaked me out man i'm um i'm not gonna lie and i've done you know i've done is everything literally melt down and deconstruct and reconstruct around you. you're taking drugs and it's distorting your perception of reality and that's what you're by it are just the people who haven't done it yeah if you've done it and you're not blown away

2:48:59 it i it was pretty fucking profound intensely profound And I thought I had hit the center of the universe. like that world that you're talking about like i haven't went like i couldn't even get out of you are on drugs you know like sort of some shit you know or you're seeing demons for real yeah but I saw like these kind of like spidery things kind of coming out my grammy and onto the ground

2:51:29 Well, I don't think so. they say the best way to do it is in a you were saying like or some of those paintings are just like some guy and there's like all this So you close your eyes every time? I think there's a conflict of information. The term the imagination You're seeing all this stuff to get a unique insight Thank you very much. Many more podcasts this week.

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