Joe Rogan Experience #565 — Trevor Valle Transcript

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0:00 the Joe Rogan experience you just start talking So here in the state of California, we have a uh a law called sequa it was started in and the bones and all that that get found by 40-ton excavation machines Yeah. old whale whoa where there's no water right now holy shit think like downtown la whale wow of this table a jacket yeah um sorry i'm like thrown out terms we wrap uh fossils in plaster

3:52 I mean, it's like 19, 20 ribs, like three or four verts, philosophy natural philosophy natural philosophy wow so uh like in the 1860s when darwin released uh origin of the species his big book on wearing jeans today but i'm like i've got them all over my legs too and they're all like science when the bones run out we stop and then we dig underneath but sometimes when we dig underneath

6:50 We close down the site, so they can't even get near us unless we let them. sand and uh yeah he was getting kind of savage with me he's like you're stopping my guys for Everybody has their own agenda. before that whoa that's what i'm saying is like yeah when you find big sharks like that you can find their food yeah megalodon in downtown la is it megalodon is that how you say it or is

9:31 the tooth was you're absolutely right and he was like no it's fucking tooth i'm like dude it used And it's a fucking rock. yeah there was skin hair like i played with its lips top half has been exposed to weathering and all that but the bottom half stayed in frozen mud and The name sounds familiar. very well preserved and uh sort of permafrost weird i would think something falling from space

12:48 For some reason, I'm thinking like, you know, a meteor comes out of the sky and like hits the mammoth exactly. all over asia and europe in the form of uh nano diamonds tritonite yeah nano diamonds and that's right nuclear glass And then we had pygmy mammoths on the, on the channel islands. They're related to another mammoth species we had in North Americaica called the colombian mammoth wow yeah so that's amazing

14:52 Saber-toothed cat is a weird fucking animal. you can yeah bite your bite your wrist i'm not gonna do that i know what i'm just ran into cats all the time uh i even dropped a skull of one on the floor accidentally oh no when Yeah, I imagine. oh we're kind of going down from like the top of you know the top of pierce college down to the He got lost. I figured when you go into a nice cave,

18:06 and i was going to you know do biopsies and discover mammoths and things like that so Finding an intact or even mostly intact carcass, a whole body, is a really rare event. Yeah. Yep. in alaska are they that common yeah they're pretty. Enough that there's an actual commodity and an entire think, being a paleontologist, hobbit man they found and florence's that's 10 years ago already that's so weird i was just

21:29 We're kind of like loners and like dead animals more than humans. And that would be cool to be part of it, It's very being an archaeologist and dealing with It was alive, right? Right. dog-sized tiny little like horse-like animals with multiple toes on their on their on their feet and then take their kids and breed them with the second biggest. And you just start, you know,

25:08 God. group of them that see we didn't domesticate wolves wolves domesticated us they came in closer Hey, furry so only keep uh only keep the shorter coat puppies and then breed them and then yeah and then what i call hip geneered or hippie engineering farming engineering it's like i'm going to make Do you know what that means? Right. Or grass fed. label uh-huh on food and i'm like oh holy crap okay that's cool yeah it's it's good stuff when

29:04 I want to know At tattoos and bones. And like, occasionally I'll throw like a picture up on Twitter because we filmed it last year and it's just debuting on Sunday. comfort yes this dumb fuck who doesn't even understand that we changed the way bananas look this life i know what a gay man looks like i don't know what all gay men look like i've been fooled

31:44 and he was like like what's that For all the same reasons. What, tomatoes are no good? Cherry tomatoes. I'm dealing with stuff that I can. Like I was in Siberia. the net people are reindeer herders. And there's this, there's this whole sequence in mammoth on earth where I'm hanging out with the Nanette people drinking reindeer blood to like, you know, to sacrifice a reindeer

34:31 I need data. the lower god the upper god gifted the nanette people the reindeer the lower god is too large to find a mammoth because if you find one and pull any bones out we have to you know so do you have um but the fact that i'm watching the animal get butchered in front of me and it's not there this Oh, yeah. Listen, I think I'm onto something.

37:39 No, I have to test it first. Like, when you found this one that is essentially, like, you're finding the actual body of this thing. million millions of years continents were in different places yeah that's i mean it's like think of what absolute zero is you know it's like what true nothingness the the concept of zero is of time where there was no physics yeah it was just it was a

41:25 the evolutionary paths of these animals but then you get into well how did life on earth start So when you're finding these woolly mammoths, is this just luck? Or does someone alert you to the fact that they found one and then you go? He had the biggest boat, the fastest boat, and the biggest gun on the entire Yana River. It's the Soviet version of it, which I think is the Dragunov.

43:12 Huh. with right when the snow starts to melt right when the permafrost starts to get uh starts to is our entire commodity. Yeah. Wow. we would have people talk on our behalf for a couple days, But don't say better to them. Yeah. And once you're there, all bets are off. no production assistance no director nothing trying to track down a pharmacy because i had

47:26 and it was right around the corner from the hotel so i went in like four different opposite the tusk i'm doing a full biological study on this thing with tissue and blood and what's the It was like the bleeding mammoth. they find it and they find it they store it and hide it away Yeah. It's like this rock hard permafrost ball at this point. this is weird.

51:13 we've got liquid blood. finding other mammoths, It's really intense, man. This is possible. And we were talking at length and there it's like, yeah, it's like maybe 50, 60 years away from right now. It didn't survive, There's your woolly mammoth. sure what it ate if we can pin down the exact grasses and everything that a woolly mammoth ate Absolutely.

55:26 I want to be there. I want to see the t-rex steal the goat from the rope right right i want to be there chokes that thing down uh just but just have a bunch of marines standing by with giant guns like I agree with you that it's probably not ethical to clone a mammoth. in order to even begin thinking about cloning really yeah it's fascinating It just turns into this just cellular goo.

58:07 But that's different than a regular piece of meat that you leave out at room temperature? ice, so we're, we're checking it every, uh, every and just gross starting to seep out of the holes and yeah it's it's kind of disgusting it's pretty Yeah, it was just like, no, I didn't get some mammoth super flu or anything, frozen for like years so if you take a piece of meat from an animal that has trichinosis

1:00:30 Because who knows what kind of fucking crazy new plague. and you could just have a sandwich instead i'm already i'm already doing the once in a lifetime Really? That's pretty damn cool. as it headlines the National Geographic Channel's Day of Expedition Marathon. It's the faculty. Is that technically like Silver Lake? for three years now and create a market but it's weirdly enough it's already starting to do it of

1:04:07 It's like three blocks down, somebody just got shot. It does sound pretty badass, though. It is the ultimate for me, Montana is a huge it's uh because there is like He's had his hand in more T-Rex skeletons than anybody I know. Wow. All over the place. kind of wired different than than a lot of people i will just focus and nitpick and just go nuts and

1:07:38 even gonna get started on all that man um again i'm a scientist i need data um i don't i don't know maybe it's it's 300 years of geology is wrong I let it be instead of just like, But just keep it out of my science. what we're experiencing right now is the last You put on glasses. never have to worry about it breaking, and it's a simple procedure. okay we'll do that and then boom boom boom boom and it's going to get to a point where

1:10:47 beliefs i just read this fantastic article on the difference between belief where somebody says i No, I don't. a human being is very difficult to manage and there's a lot of people that look for all sorts of But it doesn't mean anything. a tool you don't you when when you break a hammer you you bitch at the tool but Having a negative result means that it's something else, which is cool.

1:14:19 confirmation bias don't do you know oh we we can't we can't believe that because the earth is only 6 000 years they come back i'm like no you're not getting it and then i make my point again and then they come Just to start. take that darwin oh that's funny i need to check that out and then there's also A neo-Darwinist? Yeah, it's scholarly articles for non non-darwinian evolution oh wow

1:17:59 something no the the actress um she was on taxi oh mary lou henner oh the redheaded lady yeah yeah and she uh My girlfriend has a signed headshot from Mary Lou Henner. Mary Lou Henner is a syndicated radio show. Yeah, on Twitter it's at Mary Lou Show. Okay, man, well, listen, thank you very much for coming on here. What time? Thanks, man. We'll find fossils.

1:20:31 That's how you say it if you want to be cool.