Joe Rogan Experience #567 — Cameron Hanes Transcript

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0:00 the joe rogan experience trained by day joe rogan podcast by night all day More frustrating than even no sleep. okay i'm not going to go anywhere but i'm'm gonna be 50 feet ahead of where we're at yeah this there's something going on here there's too many goddamn people it's i don't know You spend all this time in the woods shooting arrows at elk. I know I told yeah

2:30 something like that yeah alberta and that's where we went bear hunting and these motherfuckers all they listen to is I saw your plug, though, and I was thinking I'm going to check him out. It was just every day. They got me singing that fucking Luke Bryan song, man. Son of a bitch. hard-working people can't like acdc no that's not true that doesn't make any sense that's for

5:19 no scenarios you were out in the wilds of africa definitely the wilds of africa i was with a green And when people go there, it's expensive to get there. A lot of it is people seeing a pretty girl with a dead animal and then freaking out and going off. It's a deer. So it can become a wood fairy and cure cancer. it's a fucking brutal horrible environment where no one gets out alive all those animals die and

8:16 like one of them that just stuck out to me was why would you kill a bear i thought bears were characteristics to animals like yogi bear and you know donald Duck and shit like that. These animals are so fucking ruthless. Jonathan, yeah. for cubs. basically grizzly yeah yeah basically wasn't it was she was like if it was older would have eaten why would you bear bears are gross people don't even eat bear that's so not true yeah no there

11:41 you're talking about with those boars they come out and they kill the cubs you know all a big male dominant boar cares about is his genetics being passed on so when he sees those back in and the females trying to chase them off i mean cam and i were on the ground and we're She chased him off and then they started would have been fucked oh yeah well and you know you mentioned the bait there and that's another

13:45 never kill a bear up there the only time you would get one is maybe you'd get the fall bears what they like to they like to kill seven foot plus black bear so to do that you know people Right. No. wild um it's a it's a totally different kind of hunting because just the sheer numbers you just It's just amazing. you don't get to experience what that Yeah, it's definitely something that we're completely disconnected to

18:26 because it's none of it is easy but it's not if you have a good rest for your rifle you know and I loved the challenge. red zone or bow range of an animal that's where it starts to get that's where it's difficult If that's what you want to do. than anybody else did i mean so you you like shooting the bow obviously but then you ramped shooting arrows while everybody else was goofing off i just had to it's you know it's maybe people

22:20 Yeah, it was perfect. sense yeah but not everybody has cam haynes guns that's what's up you know well you know that is a real pet i feel bad sometimes They'd probably say to you, why do you shoot 62 pounds? I shoot 50 and kill my animals. So they for the worst hope for the best well what's interesting is that you've got a whole group Did we play that commercial?

25:46 hunting but there is something that's very spiritual about taking an animal respecting but then the bow hunting thing is one more step yeah this is this isn't the under armor one though exercise you're just exercising for exercise you know like it's good to be in shape and everything Next year. wilderness by myself that took eight years to do eight years of bow hunting

28:58 you're miles away from civilization. I didn't I like to be by myself I mean right now I just kind of tolerate the cameraman and, you know, if I'm with somebody. the air is dry so if you hang that meat up like in a north facing timber where the sun stays off bull out. So I waited for these other guys, um, who were hunting 10 miles away from me that night to come

31:51 800 what's like the biggest one you've ever seen the biggest bull i've ever killed was in 2010 it and that's the biggest bodied bull I'd ever seen. tanzania with that cape buffalo we use that for lion bait i mean it's just cursory controversy like it's not people that are really investigating it and trying to figure out Yeah. i guess you could it's close to farming

36:03 It's, you know. It's real poverty it's yeah poverty on an intense scale Even there, I was trying to learn Swahili no hope for six kids at every grass shack that seems i don't know it just seemed very sad to me What is going on? So I don't really, it's so, it's weird. But those people that are living like that at the Four Seasons, checking their Rolex,

38:56 Yes. We think that this is the only way to live. benefit to them to get fresh protein like um like brian stevens that we were talking to when we're And this is protein that they wouldn't ordinarily not have been able to get. doesn't mean the entire place is you know has a lack of animals no no and you know one thing all this meat with is a burlap sack with like wire straps so wire through the burlap and then

42:32 just it's just difference to there it's just like whoever can shoot first and that one that the first up circling around getting to 50 yards and he's just standing there but he only knew he only had whereas you know you you mentioned Brian Stevens And I kind of see their point of view. And I feel like if I'm going after the king of the jungle, so to speak, or Simba, with my my bow that's the ultimate test and i mean if you're not testing

46:07 working you basically stop in the jeep up on the hill they get the jeep all put brush all over it And they had him, he sat in this chair and they lifted it up in this chair and were carrying revered and uh and i assume they also have to keep the populations down yeah that's uh you know past their breeding prime. lions gone and so part of his management practice there is um only old lions only old lone lions

49:39 Yeah. There's people who don't think you should eat any meat at all. the categories of people that have problems with hunting, I just, it's not, my goal with getting into hunting was to connect with the sense of loss when something like that happens but it's not it's not sad you know that's that's Yeah. this before when I when I have when I kill an animal I don't want a bunch of blood and hunters

53:21 We're going to eat it. unnatural diet to fatten it up was stuffed full of antibiotics to deal with the fact that it was fed this unnatural diet But one of them was this guy at the airport who had seen a picture of us. athletic and muscular man he works out a lot he's got a lot of veins in his arms and stuff It was fun. So just me and cam having fun and it wasn't mean-spirited at all

56:14 It was us having a private conversation. I go, he's a very nice man. Absolutely one way. let's not i don't want this one way absolutely one way we weren't flirting you were being very very friendly to him in a an i am not gay way but So, you know, he could have gotten, you know, he was testing the waters. bam it's on you know you landed in edmonton the exchange numbers things get popping how's the guy

58:25 He's a handsome guy. That I'm upset that the guy didn't hit on him? Thank you. It did. just gay comedians i don't know that dude but if i'd be friends with him just to find out about The first time I was up there with Luke Bryan and I shot this bear. It's a big fucking bear too. And this hate. Yeah. I don't not believe that you should be this whole thing gets the hunting message out yes you know the the right type of hunting message out

1:02:35 animals that you're allowed to eat yeah i'm not saying you should eat your neighbor's fucking dog Right. They do. So I'm going to have a rug made out of it. They don't even feel it when you kill them. and it's so intense that there are folks that break into restaurants and steal lobsters and let them loose back in the ocean. that allowed the brain to grow and develop this is like accepted scientific fact

1:07:03 the ground or they don't try to get away when you go reaching for a turnip doesn't mean that they're not a life form that reacts to It's always eaten life. from the concept of things that are sentient things that are aware of their environment Yeah. day-to-day existence is just doing something that you don't enjoy and then coming home and resting You're eating it.

1:10:33 Just to be out in nature and watch all these things run around, watch animals chase after each other, I mean, because that's basically, And I do want to address one thing. I mean, it's just amazing to me, just the heart hunters have, and people are so far, so wrong on, I guess, what moves us, what's important to us, because I see people giving thousands of dollars to help somebody they've never met.

1:13:04 and I've read the comments and then it takes away from the whole point. The nobody cares is tough love. take that from this you know i still love you and care about you guys we just need to work harder if you know because just do it is really what you need to hear sometimes just shut because you have a hangnail. a little something. your body doesn't

1:16:25 effort no hard work is also preparation thought process understanding and that is a big part of together yeah i want to do he's a lot smarter than me well he's a very educated man i'm mostly I think you guys would get along great. addressed it the last time but the the bubba hunting stereotype of driving around drinking rewarding to accomplish something that's difficult to do and it's something that's missing from a lot

1:19:10 A newspaper? Every time I'm with that motherfucker, I like UFC. He's a stud. jacked, giant guy, NFL, and then Chad, who's what? need to see those fuck muscles at the top of your hips listen to me boys if you're trying to attract These things right in there. If he has martial arts training, Chad's fucked. He might knock him out. He was a really nice guy who was a former football player.

1:22:40 But it would take me a while. I'd have to wear his big ass out. But I think eating meat is how I've been able to retain muscle He does it purely for ethical reasons. take it because it gives you an edge it might be a small edge but that small edge could be the difference between escaping a submission and It's so difficult to get all of the amino acids.

1:26:29 you know all these guys meathead and you don't need to pull that much weight but what's that Because I fuck my shoulder up You're giving all those guys Well, people are always looking for some negative, man. I go, look at this stupid bitch. weight that's it's really not that big of a goddamn deal right like yeah it's it's an ego thing i think a lot of guys the the crabs in a

1:28:54 Yeah. having bows set up by professionals guys who do it every single day. There's a lot of guys in small towns throughout everywhere that can buy the same bow, buy the same arrows, buy the same everything. and any error is us. break it off because I couldn't get the broadhead out. as a bow and arrow that like from the boy scout days you know when you would shoot those little

1:31:44 here people say no i'm going to be in., so they want to shoot and hang out. I'm going to meet up with at least one of them. Everyone's gay in California? You do both of them? And it just was soaking wet, freezing, and never felt more alive. Oh, best guys ever. You guys don't even fucking know each other? you hunt why are you wearing camo but it's just like that brotherhood it's weird i had a hoyt hat

1:34:52 awesome nowadays the young guys or the guys that seem i don't know i can't i'm in communication Oh, totally. the anti-torquing technology where there's no torque on that and and how they've designed the And that's how you get those clean, quick kills. So that means you as a shooter have less impact on it being imperfect. So meaning it's more forgiving

1:38:50 amount of feet per second how smooth it feels yeah dead and you could see in your own videos going to fly where it's supposed to. So you can still mess it up. One thing that I've noticed mean i killed you know those bulls this year one arrow they were down in seconds those those big 800 pound animals and it's just put in and the focus and the discipline and just just the the knowledge that you've accumulated after

1:41:30 I watch videos online now of archery competitions where guys are just shooting at a piece of paper 40 yards away. Just targets. comments but on the comments that i've left on with the equipment it's people just they watch They're thinking it in their minds minds working about bow hunting and archery shooting far you know like the popular ones are like me shooting 140 or i think i shot a balloon

1:44:33 Right. constantly push the boundaries more more is better yeah um what are your thoughts on crossbows what You don't need that with a crossbow. similar but it's half the length or i don't know what it is but it's that's lighter so it's not there's more behind it right so it's almost more important to have weight than it is to have but Yeah. Especially you put a Montech, you know, the heads we use were Montech broadheads, razor sharp heads.

1:48:22 I want to see, you know, if, if, if a lion was here, you know uh see let me think well you're talking about the one guy the poacher that had But when I look, I'm like, that's pretty fresh. And I would ask, what are you looking at? But definitely there's and the kids the kids the kids wouldn't act afraid of them so the kids could be around them and what's yeah kids go play

1:52:47 cut they'll you can look at all the videos you want wounded they'll come hard a lot of times I never would look one time at what the plan was or verify there was a plan to me. You can't say you're not going to say it and then not say it. When they get called out, they'll be like, okay, but don't tell anybody. just your accepted reality of life that's it i mean it i'm trying to kill it if i lose and i'm

1:55:10 hunting bears on the ground but you had that whole camp doing it there's a lot of guys that maybe it was five yards, but I would stand up and I'd be like, no, If they want to come, we're in trouble. ago and uh they said they were going to smoke it, the guys who own the boat. But a marlin, mine was about 70 pounds. they have like very rigid ideas about what you should and shouldn't do with a mammal as opposed

1:58:39 probably but uh you know and it's i guess when you talk about baiting when deer coming into a I became educated. We'll show the video now so people get a this is this is a video I've seen crazy things happen. So that target I'm shooting at is seven yards, six or seven yards. Look how fast that thing moves. They are affected immediately. You know, death sprint.

2:02:13 kills by shock generally and generally the if you hit them good with the rifle and break them down I hit low. You couldn't tell anything happened other than he was dead pretty soon. But what they do is they go in what they call the tall grass, which is about 10 foot high grass. And so they're really, they kill, test on uh on a hippo when one of the guys i was with killed a hippo there so i'm like hey how often

2:05:41 So the point is neither one was conducive to killing a hippo, but I measured penetration all the lions so i mean No. to vision but they're tall so they can see over everything they're they're as tall as an elk right now like do you have any other places that you really want to go and hunt like africa i want If I could hunt elk every year, I'm going to be satisfied.

2:09:24 Yeah, it's weird. than domestic turkey it's a more darker meat um it might be healthier it's probably not i like No, no. You're coming in. Well, a turkey is like, what's a big turkey, killed you just saw about big animals yeah and i'm like i said i'm not judging anybody that's just me Like the dogs like flush Yeah, yeah. lions and hunting for bears the the bear hunting now you can't do with dogs and if you can't do

2:13:56 There's a kid who was just attacked in Cupertino. Cody Banks said that he has a trail camera that's over a pond. than game animals it's a balance that it's well it's balanced everywhere else everywhere else uh glendora oh jesus christ back that up i want to see that thing again what a creepy goddamn animal so that's why you know as hunters we i think we just need to protect our lifestyle and just keep preaching

2:16:49 They're like... the country you know blacktail are only in western oregon or western washington up in british columbia with blacktail the uh the the legend is they're not as patternable, and I would buy into that. He won't have anything to do with high fence hunting, which is very admirable. All those guys were pretty much seasoned hunters, They hadn't bear hunted.

2:20:30 They're like, I wasted all this time. because I've had so many people email me. if it wasn't for him taking me and brian callen out into montana i don't know how i would have Yeah, edge detection. there with them just like with you and just you know i know you know i'm not saying i have all mindset and the in the respect thing but it's so hard to learn that when you haven't done it so

2:23:40 And you actually put it in my head that it's easy to, once you've done it, then take it for granted. a while to see if it's a boar they're not like you know it doesn't have antlers so you have to look at you know basically that I've had is I wrote a chapter on fear. that much more deadly more lethal and uh not to i just one thing is i was in the gym the other day

2:26:35 and I need to do everything that I practice and make that shot. your friend it's great learning from you i appreciate it very much and it's great that we It really is. appreciate it. Keep hammering!