Joe Rogan Experience #571 — Josh Zepps Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Your HuffPost show. tweeted something Yeah. Then I just exploded into one of those Twitter storms. because it was, it was really unbelievably ridiculous. It was unfortunate because if with this original americans foundation that's right so dan snyder was trying it was trying to Well, his thing is a character. It was so maddening.

4:00 like where does satire go too far or whatever. I need to check my privilege app. or, in your case, Australian Now, she's a 23- old korean american who lives at on levels that enable us to bring that out in each other. the fact that this isn't all put through some sort of an observational filter It's great in a lot of ways. clarify there is i completely concede that there is a lived experience of being a minority ethnicity, especially in America or in Australia, new countries, that is different from being a white man.

8:14 having a conversation about these things. Check your privilege You're very well spoken Instead of having this dialogue where we're considering each other's points of view and the different lives that we've led, That's the best. lose allies obvious ally for anti-racists i'm like another good point is when you're 23 fuck look she's probably smarter than me when i was 23 i

11:36 They demand people getting fired. And I think a lot of these people, they respond. This is like this aggressive campaign. aggression against certain races and sexual orientations and certain Don't just... Yes. That's the thing. Fuck. there are certain words that you can say that immediately give the other person the right It's like pulling fingernails just to do the most basic stuff.

14:47 and then they tell you that you're at the wrong booth, And the immigration officer at the airport made a joke. Not on this fucking show. And I was like, okay, that's fine. but you can do anything else, and you don't kind of trip the tripwire. Yeah, but it frustrates me that that is such a bad thing. and you know Take a chill pill And then you recycled it back here

17:51 Oh, right. What did I say the other day? But I've basically been in the States for like 10 years and I still, because you don't That means that you're fucking with somebody. It's saying, does the first guy who asks another guy out get to fuck him Like but isn't it a good thing never big? make a joke about black guys having big dicks and someone could say that's racist yep like but

19:48 but the producers nigger but it's great if you're black and you can just call your friends it. You know what I mean? Four as far as like your privilege? Oh, Sean Hannity. Cry. Tears. A lot of tears. a lot of sadness, a lot of reality. I said it right. It's like they play to these people with nine volt brains. Yeah. the whole cancel colbert thing like the people who are who are doing that are also just plucking out

23:00 I mean, that's just prima facie thoughts. Racism and whiteness go together. I mean, she's a female parody. with bricks i'm pretty sure that's kind of racist what about what they did to the korean community anyone can be racist That is a fact. Well, in the Philippines, glutathione, which is an amino acid or an antioxidant rather they inject glutathione and they they use

25:30 Yeah. each other the benefit of the doubt and not teaming up against each other how do you best foster that And I think that we're in this process of understanding each other that is unprecedented. a child um i i was born in new jersey and i moved to san francisco when i was seven and uh i grew up And he threw this fucking newspaper down. who i mean there's the there was always this economic argument about fucking insurance, but I always felt like

28:35 Because if you wanted to pass on his estate, then you could marry your son, But he's probably just pointing something out. a couch it feels casual he just thinks he's raising a kind of thought experiment and then Is that even legal? to have sex all the time who's to say that that's bad if they like it if they both like it if the son's 30 and the father's

30:35 My dad didn't have no fucking power over me when I was 30. Yeah. except the mother will not have sex with the son. They're all bisexual. You don't look clammy. he'll be fine. Good for him. I think this is a part of a process i think this is a part of a process of along with the fucking millions of people can see it. There was this photo of this 15-year-old checkout guy at Target who was cute.

33:49 control this the connectedness yeah is insane the spontaneity i'm a little bit worried about I mean, it's changed Alex's life. I'm sure. like he gets a reality show or something like that. and the boxes that society wants to sort of fit us in there have been a lot of societies where gayness has a certain politics and has a certain fashion style and has a certain way of speaking

36:45 enjoy doing but why do you have to fight it? but if you're a person There are now at some Whole Foods They don't understand what organic even means. created a heartier um plant that can survive better it has better yields and it's If you're fucking buying murdered animals that are stuffed into cans for a little tabby, She's 18 years old. and a bird is stupid enough to come near her,

39:54 They're going to go blind. like we're part of an ecosystem in which we actually are more related to the food that we're dolphins are probably in the same range as far as intelligence goes of human beings. So, there's a lot of really super positive characteristics about wild dolphins that are quite, quite fascinating. But we consider ourselves the highest because we can alter our environment because we have opposable thumbs and the whole deal um but if if you are the highest form you

42:54 I have 24 chickens. Dropped an egg. Did you eat dog? and show as much empathy as dogs. So where is it morally consistent for me to be okay eating bacon and Yeah. the same thing but i think a wild species is a wild species it's going to have flesh that you Wow. Really? Oh, my God. gets into a jujitsu position. Yeah, sure. they occupy basically the same ecological niche but because australia was uh here here's the video

46:39 You basically got a bouncing deer. And as it became a rainforest, a lot of these animals that are traditionally grassland animals became trapped like rhinos. And this all happened over a period of, like, 2,000 years. It's got to be some other force at work. Like, for instance, people that live... between the Asian continent and the North American continent existed.

48:47 and that could shake itself out over the course of generations. at the bottom of the ocean, these crazy volcanic vents. Yeah, extremophiles. And it's like, what they first discovered that there's life at the bottom of the ocean these crazy volcanic extreme files and it's like what the fuck is that some weird tiny little And that that's why the universe doesn't seem to be teeming with life.

50:40 they hadn't destroyed themselves then you would like to think that there'd been a moral evolution and polluting every fucking were before that you get to like 200 000 years, what is that, like a million years ago, and then whatever the lower hominids were Yeah, and that's what I can't believe... other species on this planet and how we treat each other yeah and you would be like this is a very

53:09 that we're also doing this to sort of combat what we really are primally. or they're doing things with their hands. Ten more push-ups. And maybe that will be true. I do another podcast called Point of Inquiry, And I just lost my train of thought about how I got onto that. I think that's very possible. I mean, this is all proof of concept right now,

56:02 They won't even worry about it. right now and you put that into a computer it would have to be obviously a much more sophisticated we know currently but if you think about how many people are fucking depressed and saddled down with and all these different emotions and figure out a way to experience pleasure I believe, in my personal experience, that without the troughs, the peaks are meaningless.

58:39 They're also fucking boring, Joe. option not to. Well, I think we will. no no no listen man i gotta find food in my area there's a beauty to starving there's a there's a I'm just saying that we live as if this idea I'm less happy when I do this. damaging the atmosphere and changing the fucking the the gulf stream and all this nutty shit that the kernel of

1:02:14 being happy happiness for me is a byproduct of me doing things that i'm good at and that contribute And, you know, you bond together. And that's the big issue. Yeah, Sean, and you're gonna have to scoop Mexicans out of the sky with nets is no way gonna be able to stop them Yeah, because otherwise, I mean, I'm not saying that that's a good thing. A lot of libertarians would say, just get rid of the welfare state, and get rid of the

1:05:03 behavior patterns that people have fallen into, Certainly health care is expensive. Really this country already spends like 14 or 17 percent of its entire No. Because if we could spend, well, you know, obviously, you know, that's the fucking argument. It's a jobs, a fucking jobs program. their little piece of the military industrial complex which means we're producing you know

1:07:44 way we have the war on drugs i mean the war on drugs is essentially a war against i mean it's And another option would be to become a drug dealer. I think we're on the way. Okay. and we talk about the news, and the audience votes on whose opinion they like the best. I welcome everybody, including Sean Hannity fans. It would be fascinating. I don't think I'd ever get through the the charade and then really had a nice little bog of Oxycontin's on

1:10:27 A lot of vomiting, a lot of shitting. Just seeing the repercussions, the possible repercussions of that support that zonk you out. It's just a recognition that if we have thousands and thousands and thousands of nukes in the world at some point eventually we're gonna obvious reflexive knee-jerk bullshit like step back for a second and look at where you are in

1:12:41 Absolutely. Well, with the exception of North Korea, you could do a deal. And then the UK, Japan, France, Saudi Arabia. Yeah. but our ability to triumph over that i mean one of the most touching things, this past weekend was the 25th anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall. Yeah. That's why I'm renaming my deck You're going to upgrade it. of them i think i think we've we've stumbled onto something that is far more advanced technologically

1:16:51 amazing because you know you see the pain in this guy's face like the owls is the face of death or and then this dot com how did that go by so quick? It's an old school clock. intense flash of a light that man had only seen from the stars To impress him, takes on his multi-armed form, and they just realized that we're in this unwinnable situation. on that was carl sagan um yes sagan died from carl sagan died from cancer because of his anti-nuclear

1:21:21 producing like we were producing we ended up with over 10 oh no i don't even remember it was like what yeah we were produced like we were produced we ended up with over 10 oh no horses horseback and arrows and catapults and shit and yeah they killed cities with a million people during Genghis Khan's life and they did that with horses horseback and arrows and catapults and

1:22:14 yeah it was a lot more same animals and that's true of nukes. people should have background checks, whether or not people should have background That's right. How come you have to take a test with a driving instructor i don't i don't it does not even compute for me because uh i don't understand why or is it actually those simple precautions that they on principle object to?

1:25:58 And this is what, in a sort of analogous way, they're trying to do with gun control. the and who undergoes a test to make sure that they know I agree with you, but I think that this is what we're dealing with. My friend Justin is a fucking gun nut. Every day that dude's at the range shooting targets at like a 900-yard distance and fucking pinging metal.

1:28:01 Okay. But they're doing it anyway. and ignore it and reinterpret it some way. that everyone makes across the country, It's not true. along with hounding whistleblowers and leakers and prosecuting these people. That's a good Alex Jones. for people who'd like freedom is guns no i don't i just don't think that's a big concern that's not You don't think you should be able to defend yourself?

1:31:31 Well, it's a good example. There are more guns than there are people, aren't there? What happened in Chicago, they sort of destabilized the environment by locking up key that they uh that they encounter in Chicago. He goes, if you change the laws, you would have the exact same results. If you want to be more original next time, mass shooting in the late 90s,

1:34:18 That's kind of my point. We all live on the coasts in several big cities. But I'd fucking move there in a heartbeat. The Asian communities, the Middle Eastern communities. Why are you guys driving It's an ancient, you would fight it's fucking very difficult to reach across the horse or you'd have to hack at them with your left. by the time European travelers came to America,

1:36:36 there were wider roads here. So you would have two I'm talking out of my ass, clearly. We have guns. Both, yeah. How different cultures kind of conceive of their, or different nationalities conceive of themselves. to protect those folks why the fuck have we not not invaded North Korea? As well as the logistics about China and nuclear weapons They're not even strategically important in any way.

1:38:45 i have not seen that reported that was the uh that's so he's reporting well he does have a This is something that also frustrates me. No, he didn't mean that. I mean, he has to. It was awful. like it was very strange it was very japanese because Like he has to do things like this. the all is all things are not equal i just interviewed interviewed an Iraqi human rights campaigner who has come to the U.S. as a refugee. He's in his early 20s. He grew up under Saddam Hussein. He grew up during the American occupation.

1:42:24 rights there's also this weird thing and this goes back to the social justice warrior thing where people are allowed to criticize christianity openly but if you criticize islam you become christian and he derives or he he gets a lot of comfort from that and you know he does it in a especially an ancient one, Religion is just the easy, preset way for people to inherit assumptions about the meaning of life and the history of the world

1:45:22 and translated from language to language. The information that we have now that refutes virtually everything that's in these... also have a problem with Sam Harris also on the point that you know moderate you a particular prism and then do a lot of juggling and reinterpreting in order to come out with I watched a fucking horrible video last week, absolutely horrible, of a woman who was accused of adultery, and she was stoned to death.

1:48:03 saying, look, this is a gross or Ben Affleck on Bill an obvious example saying look this is a gross or And this Iraqi human rights activist who I was talking to was saying, look, one thing that Reza Aslan will always say is like, what about Indonesia, for example? women drive is a misrepresentation of the way that most Muslims live. outraged. things that we find completely offensive, what you're saying by criticizing their religion

1:50:41 the way that you do things. sort of stuff. these bizarre fucking conversations like you don't believe in a higher power i go it's not that i Like, why does this have to lead to some magic fairyland where people have wings? allows you to get by allows you to get through every day and if someone pulls that structure she was buying into horseshit her whole life.

1:53:35 must be an incredible sort of ego boost, an incredible security blanket. it if you talk to people in the you know the early 1900s about rejecting god and atheism but you if if you were interviewing someone for a job and you were considering hiring them and they and the lady's standing there in front of her house that she's like oh you know god just saved

1:56:29 to live and think that never existed before when you were alone and when you're by yourself when I mean I was I went to catholic school And I just, my dad wasn't around anymore. time I was seven they're the cancel Colbert of religion they could have had I've never, who doesn't have that gene. and, again, I use the word civilized Like, people will nominally tick Catholic on a box,

1:59:27 Right. But it's true, though. It's crazy. Yeah, the preaching of hate and also this idea that it's a choice. Why not? It was the 70s, hey? inside them and even if it were a choice let's assume for the sake of of argument that everyone Absolutely. same-sex couples. You know, there are a lot of people behind the pope who are conservative cardinals who are not happy campers at all.

2:03:37 Yeah. that's fucking crazy. This is why I'm not impressed. becoming, and I think it is becoming more and more prevalent across the board. 100%. I think to enact policies like this. If we get hit again on the scale of 9-11, 2014 with you know progress from day one to date you know but it's not i mean there's ages of That's the odd thing about the way that the tables have kind of turned.

2:07:35 the ten thousand known years of human history it's a fucking blink of an eye and the ten thousand there's all this evidence of what's called nuclear glass. they've only gotten about 5% of it unearthed, but it's these massive stone columns No, yeah. I mean, it could be 13,000. know big structures but to survive for a hundred thousand years in a stable form to have language to have a certain culture to you know to know how to how to use the land and to know how to hunt and

2:10:47 The Amazon, Wow. know that we wouldn't have to be making this stuff up well that's where randall carlson comes in massive climate change and every six to eight hundred thousand years, this fucking goes off. and they figured that out from space where they looked at it and so that used to be a mountain and that mountain exploded and left behind this sort of crater looking thing it's

2:13:22 about the commission, which was, which had the commission, which has been commissioned, to figure out, let's assume that there's a civilizational reset, which there probably will be, right, at some point while this stuff is still bad. So they're designing these huge landscapes of interlocking sticks that are hundreds of feet high to try to imply that this is a bad thing and that you shouldn't dig it up. But I mean, at the end of the day, what their conclusion was, you probably just shouldn't put anything there because people are always going to be curious and you're never going to quite convince them.

2:15:06 they might all die. Yeah. And it's this moment, this event that they're showing in geological evidence that's indisputable. math and go oh well that one's going to hit us and then you just got to send up a bunch of nukes Oh, really? to figure out a way There's a lot of things things that come very close to us that we don't see coming i know because we don't because

2:17:43 and then they send in their data. But I also think there's the issue of collisions, We're all fucked. Well, you can either go to my... Please don't Because WeThePeople You liked the most gentlemen. When are you going to