Joe Rogan Experience #587 — Ron Finley Transcript

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0:00 All right. Tell me how you got started in this. Do you think it's by design where someone set out and said, It's not that they're poor. You can't tell me that's not by design. of people who are in a situation where there's no other options, That's how it works. Sometimes it just takes someone to do something and everybody goes, oh, yeah. Why shouldn't everybody grow their own food?

3:52 Come on, dude. Tell me how illegal it is. Yeah. They went to fucking jail for having chickens. You know, take this out. Why do this? There's nothing to eat around here. And you and you're going to I'm going to get penalized. forget this moment man i was looking in the window looking out at the harvard and i you know so i You know, why are you this guy's beautifying his neighborhood?

7:31 And my councilman, Herb Wesson, I love him dearly now. So essentially those two guys. No? Steve Lopez? it so yeah so that but now they see and it's beautiful because now herb has actually uh he but it's dangerous who's it dangerous for uh for the people don't live on your block You know, they need somebody to buy their shit. And why? Can't these dialysis

10:47 if you've ever seen the statistics on... This is a place that I go to. All the vegetation died. And now all of a sudden, say oh uh yeah let's do something Yeah. But water is kind of a shared resource. The gas price is $3. were drinking I'm like are you sure you could just drink this water and then I And it has a fluoride. legitimate there's a legitimate belief that there's a

15:05 You know, it has the prison industrial complex. We got the medical industrial complex, the military You see that? I mean the opposite. I think definitely there's an issue with legalization because adults should be able to do whatever the fuck they want. for a bottle of pills, and who's to stop you And that's clearly by design and in place clearly because there's a thing called the – you ever see those commercials, Partnership for a Drug-Free America?

17:21 I said it's like hookers doing commercials You know, I mean, come on. And he told a story About how he brought Later Protect the money and it's like, and you realize, oh, shit, this is by design. Come on. Wow. on that it's like well this is the way i try to tell people to look at it when they're skeptical. The only thing that you take into your body to help your body recover and grow is food.

20:30 There's all sorts of ailments. Selenium, a lack of selenium has been directly related to strokes. All of that can be avoided, at least to a certain extent, by healthy foods. Food is supposed to be alive, you know. People don't realize, oh, that's dirt. And they're like, oh, my husband, my dog, my baby mama. You should know. time if i choke you you're going out pretty quick you can only you get choked out in like two or

23:31 So everybody takes air for granted to me. Or Singapore. Some place in an Asian country. They're stuck. Those are not gas masks either. in the air. But you can only see like a hundred yards out. Everything at that beautiful architecture and the air. on my Twitter. I'm like, this is crazy. But it's, I don't know, Mexico City was just always scared the shit out of me.

25:46 I took a few of them because I couldn't believe it. all they do there's all gridlock all the time there's gridlock this way there's I mean, and I think that's what happens with these kids in a lot of these neighborhoods. I mean, you know, we got it. I remember going to the store and there was a tomato and it's, you know, and it's had a label on it says coated with shellac you know to preserve

28:22 stores here it used to be at um pacific design center man that was the place to go to go up to Aunt Tilly's, which was one of the biggest health food stores here. It used to be Pacific Design Center, man. There's a paper that was written on it. for shelf-life extension of tomato fruits the coating was You know, I do a thing with these kids sometimes when I when I talk at schools and I'll bring snacks.

30:32 okay nothing in nature that i know of that you this edible has 16 letters you know what i'm Every corn farmer, if they grew corn the way they're growing it right now without government subsidies, It starts out with these guys. I just tweeted something earlier today No, genetically modified corn. or whether it's just the way they've, you know, they've changed all sorts of, yeah, hybrids.

32:50 feed for for cows to make them sick when cows are supposed to be eating grass you know bizarre i So basically to me, you know, they tell us you are what you eat. and that's why they're so fat. It's just all that extra fat is just unnecessary. But some people are used to that corn-fed, sick flavor of beef. See that fucker over there? trying to get a hold of me,

35:27 It's only available in the wild. just go in there and like any you could go there right now and shoot a ton of And that way they issue tags, the tags being how many animals you're allowed to kill how do yeah yeah both of them you have to stock them yeah yeah you gotta sneak up on them you gotta things being even to use your rifle on the real What was that, in the valley?

38:02 That's the moose right there. Not only will they kill you, one of the reasons why you have to kill bears, like mature boars, It's kind of fucky. I mean... Bow and arrow with a bear. But the problem with shooting in a tree is you're shooting down. You got to practice like a motherfucker. But I'm doing it for a couple reasons. Bear meat is good. What do bears eat?

40:47 And that wasn't even a big one. And we were like, holy shit. Bambi's a cartoon. They attack the legs. That's like us. They're not there for you. But who the fuck is now you this hippie motherfucker no no it's not their territory it's mine it's mine you know why Or are you a vegetarian? My shit is, I get my shit from some guys that raise it. Try to.

43:23 I cooked myself a moose steak. And what you do is, you know, you essentially do what people have done for thousands of years. But if you leave it in the woods, it gets eaten. Yeah, it doesn't. being those animals are as healthy as you're ever going to get. I mean, there's no antibiotics, no human intervention whatsoever. it's done and you're dealing with with a buffalo you're dealing with a 2 000 plus pound animal that's more than a thousand pounds of just

46:45 Really? They have limits. So we are now that since the natural predators, We got a lot of wolves here. We get all our eggs from these chickens. Yeah. They're not supposed to eat vegetables. Mine are cool because they're like, we have so much interaction with them that they're like my friends. Yeah, trying to fuck you up. and the guns are so strong it's all testosterone if it was only women on the planet there'd just

50:46 We need that on tape. It's pretty bad. No. this breakfast is this morning. Well, it's a numbers issue, right? And I guess you on the same tip is like, like, God, there's got to be enough room on every block. now but it would supply food to everybody that lives on those blocks yeah i mean it it's it's They have these things called lobbyists and everything, man.

54:31 I don't know demon spawn it's just fucked there's a lot of things special interest groups the fact that the the supreme court made it so corporations can donate money And Dr. Oz is my dog too man i don't yeah he Everybody gave up on rims. It went too far. And then we had to bring it back. With what? No, I think Michelle should be president. She's sexy, and she just seems like a beast, man.

56:48 No, the chick that can see... They liked the It was like I mean that's what made That's what made her famous. No. I don't know what you're saying. Yeah, whatever. That's Bullwinkle's kid right there. I have eaten snake. Yeah, it's weird. It's very lean, you to i wish i brought some in for you you eat snake i have Those stupid alligator shows, those swamp people, those fucking redneck hillbillies

59:28 Is that six months? Yeah. I try not to eat like two weeks before I know I'm going to Louisiana I haven't found nothing that's like Louisiana. And I told Aykroyd, I said, man, this food, man, y'all need the same food that he didn't take it too good. He's a squirrely dude. Yeah dude You ever hear him talk about UFOs? What do I think about chemtrails?

1:01:32 across the sky, the way it spins I think it was Detroit, have experimented with cloud seeding they know how to start rain oh yeah they said that's what For sure they used. Right. Like, look, we're already killing a million fucking people. No, that is not what happens. Because flight patterns are in grids it's real simple when you see planes flying from burbank

1:05:05 atmosphere and creating these artificial clouds all of a sudden they don't want to believe that I said, well, it says sludge here in this exam. I go, so you have dirt and water. So what you're saying is your dirt tested positive for being dirt. You know what are the real chemtrails? 30,000 feet above your head. that's not innocuous that shit is buildings that close to a fucking freeway and you got these people's balcony literally

1:08:10 You can get them on performance cars, but it limits the amount of brake dust drastically. even schools right next to freeways like that. Nope. I mean, even when you think of if you take the sun and the moon into account They just know, look, we have this lot, and we can make X amount of money Yeah, but we got to find some light, man. You know, and or the interaction with these kids that that or have a guy that comes by

1:11:38 Do you raise bees or they just live there naturally? They're crazy, aren't they? you see these claws, dude? Yeah, I saw a special one on PBS or something where in Japan people had them nine ten o'clock i walk out and I see this possum on one side. I'm like, what the hell is this? I love, you know, because I keep plants growing and I give people, like, if they like something,

1:14:37 do that and you have to come down the hill you know to um to go to the property um grocery store or something yeah exactly i don't know i You know, But we've only been fucking it up for like 100. and they used to be able to pull just so many tuna out of the ocean, They feed them plastic. those are that's soil dude that's rich ass soil if you put it and i tell people i say who gardens

1:17:37 It's making its own compost. But if we took those and put them in a compost pile and then added leaves and all that stuff, You see steam steam rises. No, I just recently I had some meat and I had I have some compost i mean you think of the heat that comes off of a compost pile um will allen who has growing power And then you eat the fish. a lot of a lot of this a lot of uh stuff is growing hydroponic and aquaponics and hydroponic

1:21:14 something about that soil dude right you know the best way to do it you know I And that's where the defiance comes in, and that's where the gangster come in to me. You're stepping away from the system. know the soil is gangster dude you know let this let this shovel be your weapon you know not some they should be trying to figure out a way to help people escape from it.

1:23:14 something else to look at, man, That's how you colonize places. And me, I'm a fashion designer, dude. it just hit, it just fucked me up, And I started growing more of my food. So that so they did this piece. 30 40 minutes later i go back to my computer and there's this message on the computer says, Hi, Ron, we've been watching you. So I sent Melissa emails like, yeah, you real come to Vancouver. And I didn't even finish reading it. I'm like, yeah, ha ha. Real funny. So I sent Melissa emails like,

1:26:32 Who's Melissa? I didn't have anything to do with it. He found the video online. And I had never done that shit before. I didn't know. how wrong we're not worried about you and i was looking at these college kids and these You got to represent your sons. You got to represent your hood. You I said, dude, you got to represent. You got to represent your sons.

1:29:02 But if, you know, compared to Big you know to big ted and big ted that shit I mean, what you're saying makes sense. Academics and they you know and all these people with all these these and um to in it just that it just changed everything wow it just changed everything He's like, can I get my own fucking hotel room? No. and i had a girl to come visit me that she i met her there and she came visit me to talk about a project. And she says,

1:32:12 atmosphere of the whole conference Fuck it. Ah, you know, so it's funny. people were and i have to and so i get this shitty ass email that's like well um i guess You know that festival? No, I mean, I kind of clowned them just about what we're talking about you know about about not paying people they I had a bucket, a paint bucket, and I had a sign that says tips.

1:35:14 Well, it's not only that. they a dude you know who's gonna be in the audience joe no i need It's exposure. I mean, that's one of my things now. it's this thing, And everybody's like, well, Ron. Not really. I don't know if you ever see that Hitler speech where people do this video. Well, and that's just one of them, man. call the movement right but meanwhile you're getting money it's not like there's no money

1:38:56 What the fuck? And they'll try, I guess. I'm like, damn. I don't know how those conferences. I don't know who the fuck let that happen. You said it. I heard he's going to be there. i have a value yeah you know so so you you that's what it is man it's like people they i need to get But the idea of you not being compensated for it, like that it's like, oh, so much for the movement.

1:41:33 back and it's like people say aren't you a non-profit i'm like no my non-profit is a non-profit And somehow or another, if you've got something that's important to say, you should be doing it for no money. just because you it says in writing that you can do that does that make that shit right That's why they exist. All those speeches and TED Talks are fascinating.

1:44:19 I mean, the fact that they let people use the Tads and it's like oh damn this is like open source you They're probably like 10, 11, and they're calling themselves gangster gardeners. And he hasn't heard from him in years. How many people have seen your TED? It might be an extra two million. But what really hits me is people go to action. First TED was 2012.

1:48:04 Hey, Ron, we're in Boston. you know to see my garden and our kids driving down from um from uh up north to work in my garden and our kids driving down from from up north to work in my garden just hey so it's been Because we don't have no skin in the game And you see a lot of different places in our society where people realize hey we are living exactly the same way our parents lived and as we get

1:50:29 People realizing if you lift weights, you feel stronger. Hey, look, the fat in grass-fed beef is actually higher So it seems like this is part of this movement of realization. Right. He's telling me about compost. in the game it's like that's why my whole thing grow your own shit you know and not you don't That's that's what it was. And that's why, to me, it's still somewhat mind-boggling.

1:53:42 I know he shouldn't be. We've known all the people that are in our tribes. Well, I mean, yeah, and that's why I tell people gardens, they build community. from from learning okay from touching this soil from seeing that i planted a seed now there's this great in some weird way but don't you think this shit tastes better I mean you Yeah, they thought like, no, dude.

1:56:39 And they were the most fucking delicious oranges I've ever had in my life. Nature happens. And I don't know why New Jersey is famous for tomatoes. that's why it's to me what is what's happening to this food this food doesn't even you know get back Yeah, no, and that was my whole thing. And I think that's one of the reasons why the TED Talk has been viewed online countless millions of times and people have seen it in schools.

2:00:01 Like when I talk about hunting, people go, yeah, man, but I can't fucking hunt. And to me, it's sexy as hell. You know what I'm saying? And I said, you know, I said, you want to know a true panty dropper is when you go to your garden and you pick some food and you cook a meal for a girl or a guy. I mean, come on. fucking facebook or whatever it is and they can just say shit and they think it's cool because

2:02:29 reason why they're able to do that with no recourse and or rather uh no repercussions don't check me and think you checking me just because you talking about it comes with strings what are you are you trying to change this or what dude is that trying to change shit well some people are and some people aren't and the real the situation and their fucking most polished,

2:05:24 in some sort of a way it's Oh, no. I mean, that kind of people are like, you shouldn't read those. I could read mean shit about me. the introspective uh like analysis do you turn on yourself right do you do you judge yourself i used to post pictures of um and I still do if I see one, progressive fuck said i'm a progressive and what i don't what do you see here a woman in a bikini

2:08:17 Right. because she knows it looks good she likes it you know and oh exploiting women how about she's It's a goddamn fact. Guess what? Some people find that shit sexy, though. I'm being close-minded. You would be fucking hit by cars every day. You know, don't judge. He got a way better genetic roll of the dice than you. okay this is the the hand that you're given. Work with it, baby.

2:11:33 What the fuck is a progressive? progressing away from the direction that we're at now which is negative which is factory farming People love labels. That shit's progressive. So it's somewhere they got some cop, forgot where it was texas somewhere where the ground punched him in the face they saw a guy with a camera that was filming it they take the guy's camera away from him delete the pic the video arrest him but he

2:14:30 And if you lived his life, you'd probably be doing exactly the same shit he's doing. that's connected to illegal activities. you don't have that gang-on-gang violence that you're having down in fucking mexico that shit is directly When I was in Colorado, what wasn't cool, they were just smoking in the street. And I'm like, what? Most people do. most things a chance

2:16:38 I couldn't imagine. gotta do what you gotta do exactly that's why dudes are selling drugs i've never had a cup I enjoy a cup of coffee. No, no. My friend owns Caveman Coffee, It's like you know exactly I like that. Originally? All of it comes from Ethiopia. and you got these scholars and shit to preach this and it's like native when i won't give me a date

2:19:42 Isn't that crazy? But one of the weird things about San Diego is it's right next to Tijuana. You know you're only over here for a few hours, and get back over that fucking line. Two guys. they're coming over here they're not coming over here to rape dogs or fucking being in mexico too We kicking it. Man, there's people just having shit over there. about i don't know that's not good though that's weird it's weird tijuana is another one i mean

2:22:13 That shit's so fucked up Yeah. Went down to see the Mayan pyramids. I mean, more people die in Chicago every year than a lot of these cities in Mexico. There was one guy. is starting to slowly bounce back from that too where people are starting to see people are Fuck yeah, it does. There were some holes in the ceiling, which was enough to let rain and light through.

2:24:58 It's crazy. It'll be like compost and think it's gonna be cool you know we it's like they had um where was it was it chernobyl Get me on the next plane to Chernobyl. and killed it, they take the ant deep, deep, deep into the woods and drop his body off like soil exactly exactly and they're using it as a base to launch all of their little soldiers that are going to infect all the

2:27:59 they climb up the elephant's leg and start eating their fucking brain from their ear they climb into their That's the thing about it. is the same roughly as the amount of weight of ants is the same roughly as the amount It was leafcutter ants, and not only do they have this incredibly complex system, They say ants are the only species that have pets because like aphids.

2:30:42 And they were in the front of the hive and they were you know got i got to something like what the hell is happening and then so i saw all the rubber bands so it was One time we were doing Fear Factor. And you can literally see the two. those hives, those things that he carries around with him, those trays that look like filters for an air conditioning system his you know his those hives those things that he carries around with

2:33:28 They were transitioning, so it was lucky. What, you think we killed people and just buried them somewhere? In a car You know the scariest thing gonna get stomped or someone's gonna get kicked in the head or any of those things can happen Testosterone makes them grow weapons on their fucking head. no thanks for inviting you have a non-profit how can people contribute how can they donate what

2:36:16 Actually, we got this hell of a project we're working on. learn how to cook, I appreciate that. Fuck yeah. Send him some money. Peace.