Joe Rogan Experience #589 — Chris Harris Transcript

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0:00 One of the beautiful things about the internet is you could watch a video, meet someone from problem i was just talking to someone earlier about this and um if you look at the upsides of But if you want to borrow a GT3 for the weekend, at the moment is pretty good as you know so the stuff that i bought the tat that i bought has globally the largest television show per views in the world is it really isn't that amazing on cars

2:36 it to be motoring is is the one that has the fewest players and the biggest dominance i mean Let's send someone down there and sell some content. We have a version with a good buddy of mine, Adam Ferrara, is on. but if you're not absolutely on point i think it's difficult to pull it off really does jeremy The Malvinas, I think they call them. and they're going to drive them all the way down through South America

5:16 Because you might just turn around and go, like a fastback 70s one, I think. and then FKL, Falklands. in Argentina when they were down there shooting they left this town, they had to nip Now, I think that's so far-fetched got lost, the cars got abandoned, they just left the cars and ran. Do you remember when they did the one through America and they just,

8:11 but they'd know they drove through some Bible belt state and they got chased off a petrol Love rocks or something. or negative towards Christianity. progressive. This is the most progressive part of the country, for sure. Yeah, this is San Francisco. or Kentucky and you balance as a sort of minority myself within my what you've described to san francisco you you can you can as a sort of

10:49 burgers oh so medical condition meaning that like you have socialized medicine so that that obviously that are less fortunate than you? hungry i'll have the one in the middle the the one like, not the biggest, but the one down. Of course I have. I love the concept of a retail outfit your blue movie, under the counter. We're going to provide schools.

13:50 I also – I don't want to see doctors suffer and be disgruntled and pissed off because they have $500,000 in fucking student loans. yeah it's interesting isn't it because you you can you can't view it as a utopia because there that's the great frustration with it really um how the fuck did we get there from driving through and behaving badly at university for three or four years, and they'd had had to work so every time we'd staggered in at five in the

16:37 start to plot what happens strategically over time they don't do too badly because they are given my net worth I'll give you everything we all calm down and think, Oh, I love that car. Yours was like, what, 2,200 pounds or something like that? A lot. conscious of that and i think you're driving adjusts accordingly so the smaller cars the you kind of need to get up it and and there's a personality about particularly the gt series

20:13 whereas I think the older cars off the scale. Just probably ready to steal it. if he wanted to get out of my car And he was kind of... I think they're the most pathetic invention. quite a low creature actually in in in the scheme of things you just go along and you say i don't richard and i are really good mates and we neither of us has really got any clue with money at all

23:05 trimming cars like that just costs a fortune yeah and i didn't know how expensive was that Well, that's why something like Singer is such an interesting approach. From the very start, they were long hood. And both you and I agree that if we had half a minute to spend on a car, we'd have one, wouldn't we? For legal reasons. how do they feel about Singer?

25:58 They're absolutely gorgeous. So there's rock in the blood. they've they've really taken off what a weird world we live in where they can't fill enough And the P1 is how many million? And I sat several times in interviews with Mr. Hatz, who is the boss of Vaisak in Porsche, the R&D development place, and the man that makes those decisions and has to stand by them.

28:14 Yeah. someone approached you and said you know you're a great photographer how much for a day's shoot say there it is it's a million to two million just five million i'm just making it up they just buy But did you want it? over the top. That's what it is. They got in the way of it. Net usable performance or power,'s say so if you had And the thing's quite big as well.

32:22 so that's what that's 25 30 000 why is that just because they they won't they won't allow them to carry on just in case they dollars to do something to it right and that's what suppresses the values of them yeah it seems It's the last manual Berlinetta V8 Ferrari. them because they weren't crash tested so bill gates bought two and crashed one did he

34:36 But today, you could buy a 70, 80, and a gtr the GTR would probably be. the loan great guy um he was in charge of his job title was brilliant it was sort of he was like an go fast on the autobahn i've never been fast you need to have effectively a second key to make the We had two cars. carlsruhe which is a great piece of autobahn it's like five lanes wide undulates a bit but

37:54 quite quickly 180 but after that those next 20 miles an hour you watch the needle just creep and yeah it was like a support car really to make sure everything was all right and had a camera on the You pick up cambers. and he just said, you went out of sight. speeding one in traffic and then felt the way it stops the felt the way it responds you do have

40:20 it's rated at what over a thousand horsepower but apparently you know it can put out so much more it can you know it could have 1300 horsepower if it needed to without even in your house aren't you or haven't bought a hi-fi magazine for a bit um and i think i'm like that So I'd probably want a GTR with 1,000 horsepower, and I'd probably drive that for a month and i'd love it and i wouldn't

42:20 I like a light car, and I like a really good handling car, but occasionally I like an American muscle car. Anytime I'm turning a corner, all I'd have to do is just give it a little extra juice it's so much more retarded than the Porsche. Wah! And it's stupid, but there's something fun in that stupidity that would always make me smile when I drove it.

44:26 to all you men out there, and I've got some German stuff which works, and I really appreciate the engineering, and I've got a tiny willy. And I've got some German stuff which works That's what it's all about. And she'll go, why? i'll come up against some young gun in an evo and i'll want to learn him and i wish i was in a fast and they never work they never start on the key i mean the whole point of having cars is that they

46:55 And it does turn on a key. cool thing and i'm i i foolishly chose that Because he was, what was the show called? A lot of people, they lost a lot of affection for him because he was host of The Tonight Show, stupid fucking movie that he really didn't care about or some album release that he's never going to listen to the songs. He has Jay Leno's Garage, and he talks about these cars.

49:25 across the board especially by men who love cars instead people have this sort of like He just took three hours to walk me around all of the rooms in his, And that when you bought it, you were told, rather than to stop, but then i spoke to the guy and he told me what he likes oh shit i better buy it then long he was clearly doing something right it wasn't that he was that bad he appealed in a strong way

52:22 And they want things very homogenized and pasteurized. He's a sweetheart. It's just he never got the respect doing that. They output loads of content very generously. but very few really good automobile TV shows. It is. not really worked because it all started out as being sort of car reviews, product reviews, wasn't it? say anything's bad and it doesn't matter you won't lose you know you say the ford focus is shit you

55:54 And so Top Gear was the first one family so it needs to be entertaining um and we need to do stuff with cars you know you if we think a car of internet shows that we've all been involved in sprung up over the last three or four years and do some nice things with them. And, you know, I've been asked to do a few things, and then just the sheer visceral thrill of driving it and the way it'll smack you up a road,

58:56 so if you drop down a bit in m3 we probably need to go and race a hang glider with it and if it with it and what's that modification scene i love modifying cars cars. Your car's modified. I think that's brilliant. I like anything. I like any car. I can't hear the radio in the morning. Maybe I'd like someone to drive it for me, and I could just sit in the back and write a story.

1:01:25 that just sort of leaks oil about the coolest Rolls Royce of all. And they said, right, I think it was called Sultan. there was a really crap old cool box. So you used to sit in this thing. Rust bubbles all down the side of it. there's a majesty about them I gave three for it. And he did like a 72, 73 Cadillac, yeah you could get me onto a subject where i could become a real bore actually

1:05:23 like there's concrete for suspension totally unnecessary your car yes your car needs to be firm it's supposed to go fast around the smooth, road bump-absorbing ride? as simple as i'm as i'm portraying it but i think they've gone too far if you if you drive a rolls You think it was good? did some gigs down there Like you chill out. than you and you're quite comfortable with your position and you always drop into character don't

1:08:19 It's almost in a market of its own. in some sort of a weird way. is this amg thing where they have the amg s class the the 63 and then the 65 which is uh which is kind of weird it's like you know now you They just walk in and say, I want the most expensive one. expensive one well that g65 that g wagon is such a shit box it's just a weird fucking bread truck

1:11:12 But the moment you start sticking, you know, AMG engines in them. I wonder what car gets used, Oh, what we call the Amazon, the V8, yeah. thing with the the taliban that all of uh what's osama bin laden's people they all drove around But then all motor cars, really, beyond the most basic utilitarian hatchbacks and you know city cars tend to and do all this other stuff.

1:13:47 and then the cactus logo. I never go off-road in it I can't really answer that, but probably yes. Hellcat that has 707 and it was parked there and i yeah i don't want to talk about it really because i've not driven got 10 years left you know let's let's go for it um almost bucket list style yeah sort of and i i have two keys exactly so you one of them gives you like far less. I believe it knocks down to 500.

1:16:44 They'd come out the back of a plug plug and I've got a massive electric shock. And I think we do it in increasingly clever ways. The new four-wheel drive one? It's ridiculous. they're just about managing where the weight is I thought, God, is this the future? So I've ruined it for you now. Torque is what matters on the road, not power. So if you look at the back of it,

1:19:19 You need it square on from the rear. Oh, I see what you're saying. No. But it's a cool thing. that emulates the sound of an engine. that comes at you but again is that optional can you shut it off i think you probably can play with yeah the moment you get too het up with noise i think you're in trouble i think you could find to do more and more is they've gone down this route of faking the noise and they've been

1:22:39 fluctuates with the speakers so it sounds like a different car at different points in the rev range but at low revs it sounds like a four-cylinder because of the firing order of the engine and then when You just think, well, that's weird. I think the four-door Grand Coupe looks, it just has like a personality. But there's something about the M6 I think the Grand Coupe is just elegant.

1:24:15 Beautiful interior, too. Really? But you shouldn't ask me about it. If you took it to a rally team and said, what would you do with it? you just said i can't judge a car's looks publicly privately i can i can tell you what i think is nice Right, but to you. Yeah. See, I quite like those. Because I've got a big dog and I've got three kids. We're out.

1:27:14 go and collect three kids from school um the audi uh s8 the new one yes i've not driven the new it's got, I think, which engine's the new S8 got? but it's miles better than it is in the bentley i think really why i don't know it just seems to to not have a usable backseat it kind of has one but you know the the feet are going to be bunched up 550 because it they went to the customers and said so you've all got 550s how would you know

1:30:15 it wasn't didn't have nice ride it just had a lack of control and the first time we drove it And then about five months later, they announced this thing called the Fiorano pack, first of all got rid of like one of the greatest porsches ever we agreed we weren't going to talk your girlfriend was Heidi Klamm or something, uk they're worth well over 350 000 dollars wow um so i did a right out of mine hey look i i take a

1:32:08 much money at the time so I couldn't really afford it I sort of kept going for I think we had it for i don't i don't really derive any pleasure from sitting and telling a room full of people that and then the next box to tick was probably a 512TR or something like that, I've got a massive problem with Mercedes 500Es at the moment. And also, financially, I can probably afford not...

1:34:33 I'm just starting to develop a thing for two generations ago's M3. I think in some respects is nicer than the v8. It's a beautiful car too. I love the shape of it Which one's that? own gears is important too. There's something that's missing. I have the, my BMW is a double It's almost all the big sports cars in America, a shifter and the m6 yep and the m6 but we can't that's just us only that even the grand coupe is

1:37:33 and i love that i think that's integral to driving however if you live in la and you're stuck in So everyone's back into vinyl. It's lovely. sold every gt3 they could fucking make um but if porsche turned around and said we're going to make and some car manufacturers will endorse it and some won't. If they can create a business case for doing it, they will do it.

1:40:13 and how you can cheat your way around it and if you've got a seven or eight speed dual clutch Right. Do you want to be disappointed? Have you got your name down for one or not? However, they've just re-engineered the seven-speed in the new 991 GTS, which they launched last month. Second and third was fine. you a bit if you're in a left-hand drive car and then seventh was a way and up it wasn't quite

1:43:09 and also the obviously the the other way around it's a it's a mid-engined car the gearbox is on it's so awesome it's the best car i've ever owned 500 did you was the engine in it when you bought Did it feel noticeably quicker straight away? So you sold the Gen 2 3.8 and then bought the white body. So I'm coming back end of January. He's awesome. Matt Ferrer is going to be here if you guys still get along by then.

1:45:44 What time is it? 4.30. You can have a cigarette in here if you like we'll just turn on the air Yeah, what do you want? They've got that clicky ice blast thing on them. You click it on demand. I'm on and off. I like I do wear a fanny pack. Boot, hood, trunk. watching those top gear skits oh he's the one that can actually drive wow and the woman on the car

1:48:26 It doesn't need to be like one of those GTI videos where they're topless and, you know, But I did a shoot with Tiff. drive for sure. But I don't think the one I did airs until April or something like that. of extreme driving scene on a circuit with TIFF I just said no way will that ever happen um and I And we're hyper-efficient. think there's still some stuff we can learn from tv and hopefully over the next couple of years

1:51:09 almost all of them were complaining about Drive+. think everything should be free but there's a cost to producing stuff i mean understandably the overheads for us doing this are a lot less than of videos it was a struggle for me to do it because I needed to be doing a lot of views to keep the car industry interested in what I was doing. Okay, broadly speaking, it's entertainment.

1:53:06 and amazing. And rightly so. And we've we've sold it to them as experiment is ongoing I don't think it's failed and I think actually it might be I think people us and give us some money so we can keep it free to air. And that means everything from car brands the numbers. something like a Squarespace or whatever our ads are, I know it's a solid product. I know I have

1:55:51 were people saying, look, I love what you do, If I go into a That's basically going to pay Neil. Well, yeah. even 12 months i think there is already a lot fewer players than there were even two years ago And I think you're going to find a lot of players, you have to stop. Maybe that was wrong. the content is excellent the show is excellent it's a matter of like just getting the right

1:59:28 You spend all your money making the films. around it obviously and quite understandably so but they can't police Do they say that? Do they do? Well, there are rules around it, obviously, and quite understandably so. No doubt. shocking that's kind of shocking because you have a huge amount of fans. Your videos are very popular. can be enjoying you, but yet you're having such a hard time figuring out a way to make it

2:01:53 the audience is there it's just a matter of And I don't think it was crazy at all. because i think then to sort of kickstart yourself again would take even more effort and momentum That's what it is. It's mega. You need to stop it. Well, we're going to send some people to you. And thank you so much for all the videos that I've watched over the years because i really enjoy the shit out of them