Joe Rogan Experience #590 — Ana Kasparian Transcript

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0:00 Was Jamie here the last time I was here? Anna Kasparian, welcome. No, she's got a boyfriend. She's here. He's wearing pajamas. That's going to be able to go over and get some nice cigars now. But look, the embargo lasted 52 years you see like a red light. There's these photos of these cars that are beautiful, I wonder. you just don't get from cars that came from the 90s like those cars look like shit like i was

3:15 Nobody cares about a 12-year-old Camaro. Like there's like pockets where people are like, you know, you don't fix up a 2002 Camaro. of a woman almost when you look at a Mustang from decades ago. Yeah. So they figured something out and I don't know what it is, but they figured I really wanted So it was funny because I remember talking to Christian, my boyfriend, about possibly getting a Cadillac.

5:08 Yeah, but I really have no room to talk. It wasn't like a hip car, but it was smooth. Well, they had no choice. It's got 500 plus horsepower. It's like this light battery. even if you're driving legal speeds those cars are way more fun than regular cars yeah definitely I want to follow the rules and I put my turn signal on I love it. No, Don't you think it would be like healthier

7:52 We're animals and we're hateful and we're not inherently kind. You're exposed to it on a regular basis through the news stories that you cover, You're dealing with insane numbers. I mean, that's one of the parts of the world that's so hard to handle and manage in this they've had being born in certain situations, the resentment of that. Right. So I remember when we covered the whole Ray Rice story and, you know, we saw that surveillance footage of him knocking his fiance out with one punch.

10:27 So we make that argument. trying to kick your ass and so you knee him in the face and knock him unconscious like you wouldn't Like the way he threw it, he really knows how to throw a punch because it was in a short And look, I'm not a neuroscientist. experienced some significant head trauma and that this depression might make these guys like more quick to snap or more angry or more impulsive

13:11 That's the point. And a lot of guys have done this and done this like really intelligently and made speeches about it and, you know, put up blog entries about it. you know, we had this discussion about whether or not in, let's say, a few decades, football will to do that when you're 18 and you've been drafted out of high school. But, you know, nonetheless,

15:51 But at one point in time, they were completely denying that there was any link between cigarettes Similar things are happening. Yeah, it's amazing. You know, okay, okay, to not hit heads together, bro, I'll fucking keep banging heads. and spike balls in their face. I don't watch much football, but I love highlight reels. So we're on the same boat. Go!

18:17 None of this whistle blowing. that have allowed them to grow so big. like a freaking timeout called every two minutes. And you're like, Jesus Christ, just keep playing Well, and it gives you things to debate. It's just like opening up the devil's asshole and looking for advice. He's got no heart. It was about violence. That's, you know, come on. make sure that there's as much information and education out there as possible so you make an

21:41 It was $200 million, a little more than $200 million. good is that these guys are making millions of dollars and they wouldn't necessarily be making Like, Matt Mitrione is a fighter in the ufc he was a lineman i believe he was a lineman in the nfl i know he It's interesting because with a game like rugby, That's very astute. So there's accidental eye pokes that are happening.

24:45 Like in karate, they kind of teach you to use the front two muscles. They tape them up tight. shit out of people like no no no no honestly i got into martial arts when i was a kid because i was of someone trying to kick your head off. Like literally you feel the whoosh of heels going by right before a fight. Like all these lights are on and the camera's on.

27:22 like, I know! Fuck all that. you're going to do some romeo and juliet type shit no but one of the things one of the things their first parachute didn't work and they had to cut it off? No, it wasn't Steve. what would that mean? what? they do that. Was it a woman? Oh, yeah, yeah, okay. Oh, my God. people that die per year due to skydiving accidents just to and it's actually not as

31:27 Hmm. Oh, alright. I got the number here. That's in 2010. But if you look at this calendar, this is pretty crazy. Boom! It would literally be raining people. It's a whole city. So you just paid hundreds of thousands of dollars That story was from Ryan Parsons that. Yeah. I don't even like Yeah. As long as you're careful and you know what you're doing.

35:26 and I'm like, Fuck that shit. and you're like, oh. But dude, some people get off on that. Like not sexually You know, you don't want to die. even have anything in your pockets. They strap you to You're going to get smashed into the gears But other than that, I feel like I can handle it. Most likely you're going to be fine. I did this fucking thing.

38:09 I've been on. You go 120 miles Oh good Lord. again jumping out of that plane like the moment before i jump out of the plane is what scares me whether it's boxing or something like that. Because when they win, and go, fuck! asking me to sit like, a crazy-ass comment, the comments were about what I look like, I was like, oh my God, no one's paying attention

41:13 Thank you. They'll talk about your looks or your makeup or something like your heels you know that's that's cheap that's like a cheap tactic like if someone's talking about an idea yeah you start talking shit pursued if you had a bet like who's pursuing more is women are women pursuing men more or men Right. Your viewers just like lost interest. yeah and so embrace the fact that you have differences but expect or or yeah expect equality

43:56 I think you're seeing more and more women feel confident enough to pursue men. At least that's outfits and looking really sexy and wearing high heels and makeup and really girling it up the one you're dressing like a whore. around and like judge them and say oh i'm not going to take this person seriously so i got to should say so that really made me upset because for me wearing high heels isn't about attracting

46:46 He's wearing boots that went all the way up to his knees. with Timbalands on, you know? that's the problem is people are getting genuinely They'll diminish you because you work quickly diminishing yeah like if someone like says anything yeah he's the most dude bro guy ever Yeah, that happens time to time. executed in 1944 because he was convicted of killing two white girls. So he had nothing to

49:44 you don't want people to immediately go to oh Oh, she's just an emotional female. She's not a reliable source of news. Right. A lot of people think that if you're passionate about something, that means that you're irrational and that you're just an emotional girl. And so I go out of my way, regardless of how how much I want to like break down. I go out of my way to make sure I don't cry on camera.

50:24 But if you don't feel like crying on camera, you don't have to do that either yeah and it's it's interesting to wonder why like show that was documenting Malibu fires. And these fires were just devastating fires that swept And then I had to go on stage is where, JB smooth. hilarious comedian. And it was supposed to be, JB was supposed tob Your Enthusiasm. Hilarious, hilarious comedian.

52:28 this girl calling for her dog. She's calling for a dog. You know, she's like, Rusty, I'm fucking crying like a bitch. after you see something traumatic like that. I think it was a natural disaster that happened somewhere. family members went to the burial or whatever and the dog like realized it i have no idea but it was Fuck, this is bullshit. That's like a harmless made up story if it is made up.

54:56 and that these troubles could have been investigated before, Everybody must know that women can get sexually assaulted, right? not only does it fail in that attempt, does a disservice to the actual rape victims out there You should be objective, right? potential rape victim and they want to be very sensitive to her and so they kind of like walk And it was, I mean, that came out um or the aftermath of that story

58:35 You have ones that report things that are just totally made up. He's using a paintbrush to sweep the side of a mountain. thompson used to write you're supposed to have like the highest journalistic ethics ever you reporters out there who do the due diligence necessary to put out a responsible news report. there's this real fear of blaming the victim

1:01:03 Rightly so. you could just, school. I mean, just simple little details from her story, you can corroborate without, I think people are maybe many times in a rush to get salacious stories out. That's a fact. they just block them out. But again, it's up to Rolling Stone to do its due diligence and make sure that everything that she is reporting to them is true.

1:03:44 fucking far in life. Whatever small percentage of false rape claims there are, And even those numbers aren't reliable. And this idea that you shouldn't look at things rationally or logical or you shouldn't want facts while still being kind. in pictures in the way that she was in that photo and just making fun of it like posting it on I want to come out and speak out against it because a lot of teenagers go through the same thing that I've been going through and they commit suicide.

1:07:11 You see what I'm saying? So I don't know. I don't know. Okay. you're going to accomplish by running through my fucking classroom and throwing pencils at each other and pulling hair? And sometimes it's the only way you can get their attention. them in the beginning like look i'm not much older than you guys. I'm 28. I cuss. I'm going Yeah, I mean, people definitely would rather communicate with somebody who they feel like is a regular person.

1:10:47 drugged her and rivalries to the have this idea most dangerous people you ever run into because they're physically they start they're starting if they definitely do that without any tests, trials, and tribulations, That and gay shit, probably. And we were in New Hampshire and it was in the middle of fucking nowhere. screaming this isn't funny guys this isn't funny and uh they woke me up one of them grabbed me and

1:13:11 It doesn't just come off. There was guns. Somebody probably hit a rock, probably an accident. Oh, my God. So it was probably either 13 or 12. going to Boy Scouts with. you're out there in the woods Like, Especially if the 17-year-old kid's a creep. And then he goes and bullies people at school. He's not a bad guy. I grew up with him. This guy just would just literally for no reason go find a person and go, come on, motherfucker, we're fighting.

1:15:48 and then i got became friends with him he was friends with my friend steve and when i became would find people that he wanted to fight and it was just and I couldn't every once in a while i'll come home and I'm like in a bad mood. Everything's great. but, putting things into perspective right because i felt euphoric everything was great i had a really

1:18:34 it's interesting isn't it funny it's it's kind of says something about people that it's very in very Sometimes they are diagnosed. It's a devastating story. fun no one would make fun of really poor people like haha they're poor but you know you could be well, it's a poor area with a lot of crime, Is it because people are recording them now? Or am I just really only paying attention to what

1:21:15 to a new civil rights movement he was selling untaxed cigarettes, loose cigarettes. It really does. You know, black guys are always trouble. So fuck it. He died. Who cares? Well, people have this amount of money you're talking about find all the stolen cars do you did you solve all the burglaries okay let's stop fucking with the There's like, how many of you guys?

1:24:47 Because a case like Trayvon Martin, you know, you don't have surveillance. I mean, you got to wonder like what planet they're on. What he's doing definitely is a chokehold. different ways to grab your hands once you're grabbing your hands so if he's grabbing his hands that was happening but it all could also could have been possible the guy was just freaking the

1:27:15 even if they grabbed him by the neck, if you're a cop in new york city and you got some guy who's like a you know some football player Maybe that's why they were willing to engage with him physically. So it was like, It's just such a sick video. becomes fucking tricky as hell because people like to abuse power they do they get into that sort of No, you guys are cops.

1:29:52 as the Occupy protests started to get really fired up. If you have that kind of money, then you buy the police force. I mean, it is. I remember when it happened, I was like, really? 4.6 million? That is so goddamn blatant. I mean, it is. We got a big fat cigar while he's talking to you. And they did? That's what it is. has died down considerably. reliable news source thinking that these occupied protesters are all these crazy druggies that are

1:32:24 that they're trying to get out i think they just focus on what they think people And I don't think it's necessary. of this paddy wagon. I'm so down. I'm so down. We're going to block off the highway. Fuck it on the cops. You can't blame it on Ferguson. You can't blame it on the president. If you are What about the city hall? Sorry to interrupt you, but what about their city hall? Why don't

1:35:36 But like, yeah, let's put all the protesters in a corner and ignore them as they're holding their signs. You just say, look, you guys are broken. And if you did that, But don't block the fucking highway. No. The cops are, you know, having to protect themselves. themselves. So I usually just talk to them and everything's cool. I'm respectful. But when I was

1:38:09 By the time a cop gets to you, Because some of these guys are putting in 25 years. know they exist, but I think it's also important for them to speak out against the police brutality that they see. I think a lot of the reason why people are kind of opposed to The odds of you having one douchebag out of 100 people is 100%. It's hundreds of millions just in this country just throwing information back and forth and

1:40:55 There's no question about that. right gonna have assholes you're right i mean when i think about like my instagram page for instance We get caught up in a few variables, a few people that sneak through the net. different realities yeah and i think there's that and then there's also the two percent thing you want to get away with some shit too. You're all

1:43:23 proper consequences, you know, are proper consequences you know in response Really? Animals. I didn't know that. So I'm looking forward to that. i'm not combative or anything pulls me over before he says do you know why i pulled you over right If it seems as though I have any type of amused look on my face, He's like, do you deserve four tickets? are your license plates and i was like it's a new car i haven't gotten before i could even finish

1:47:18 window and I was like, I'm sorry, officer, I couldn't hear you. Can you please repeat that? he's getting a rise out of this and he starts asking me like a bunch of questions like, why were you using your phone when you were driving? Please give it to me. No, I mean, I got to keep it real. He's got to know what he's, you know. deserve a ticket please give me a ticket officer or do I tell him yes, because I deserve a ticket. Please give me a ticket officer. Or do I tell him no, I'm not disappointed. I'm actually fucking stoked because I don't want to pay hundreds of dollars for this ticket.

1:50:22 That's a weird request. I did nothing wrong. his name i wish i would have been able to do a report on it on our show and actually be like hey this is number you who has the recourse you who has the the vehicle for delivering this information all Yeah, I mean, they would be, like, shaking and weeping and freaking the fuck out, I'm not going to be offended by it.

1:52:59 And so for you to be freaked out by it, Well, sometimes cops will like literally like a really bad cop will literally put himself in a situation where you put your hand up to stop him. And I don't know. And I don't know, get some sort of justice. because they don't want more craziness because they were causing violence they were doing shit you know like they they've done this tactic

1:55:52 They'll smash windows, really do this it really happens yeah i remember the first time I had heard about agent provocateurs, I was like, come on, guys, how conspiratorial and loony is that? So loony. And then I realized it was They're going to get angry and they're going to start referring to these protesters as animals and all that. CNN's probably still reporting on the missing plane.

1:57:56 smashing window you get paid tax dollars to smash windows they get tax dollars they get paid tax understanding of the people who looted and smashed windows no and one one guy went to his his twitter The looters are not doing any great service to the protest. It's scary when you can only refer to a few people in the country as good journalists like Matt Taibbi.

2:00:03 But it's hopeful to me. or overzealous in some She was pregnant. You know, it's just, come on, man. I guess the only upside of it is the political activism that's coming out of it. I mean, that kind of stuff is coming out now. We should just fucking move to the woods. But isn't that the best The storyline can be a little offensive to your dictator.

2:02:42 This fucking crazy Armenian broad came in here. here but it's true it's true you have make decisions about what your company should distribute as a movie. 100 north korea is doing like for some reason i find it inconceivable that it's a bunch of and the hackers will get into their email from someone like that They're there. And then we back out of like showing a movie. I mean, think about it. Think about how we're

2:05:35 I mean, or I shouldn't say the fault. So I don't think it's in that situation. No, this is actually an argument against it because they spy on so many goddamn people that are completely innocent that their systems are just like full of information and data that's absolutely useless. like the Boston bombing and you have like terrorist attack. How come you didn't catch these guys?

2:07:52 investigation unit but if you if you wasted resources looking after hippies in a drum circle Every citizen contributes to the payroll. They'll probably frame us. But when you look at our incarceration rate and how we incarcerate more have a problem with cigarettes and they can't kick it. I'm like, I'm watching you poison yourself. Yeah. I mean, look, that's one of the reasons why I'm in favor of legalizing things and regulating

2:10:49 opinion because public opinion is very important but there is an issue with needing 50 or more Here's a category. And what are your reasons for being opposed to it and what are your reasons for If they went to the ballot and they go, oh, fuck that. the advertisements that are either for or against ballot initiatives, right? And the thing that It's probably because they're the gatekeepers and they're the ones who get to decide whether or not

2:13:44 Yeah. You know, Why would we do that? That's hilarious. They're very sensitive to people criticizing it. that debate? Drives me crazy. I think we need to work in LA for sure on solar. It's so ridiculous Yeah. it's like a spray-on panel Fully transparent solar cell that dance around amongst us. pessimistic self-deprecating person on the planet because oftentimes on our post game shows i have

2:16:57 him in your job he would be terrible at it you gotta realize that like everybody has their own of it is it slips away pretty goddamn quickly. morning on some fucking glass that's gonna make electricity and nobody gives a shit what your had you're a little bit of chip on your shoulder plus you're armenian and then you're out there in notion and I don't know.

2:19:16 A comment that I get often, and it's a sweet comment, and I love people that send this Rhonda Patrick. Like all the things that I kind of like had she like in depth described them in great detail. Is there certain important times I'm just tapping out of my, Wow. She's way fucking smarter than me. That asshole. He's way smarter than you. Wow. You look just like that

2:21:53 Nobody wants to admit that. Yeah. Everybody gets a different hand of cards. What do I know? He might be like, We're weird. If you need me to tweet something, holler at me. Cubans know how to rock it. They have more fun. time good for them yeah good for them yeah they're. You know, we are caught up in this idea that unless you're keeping tabs, unless your numbers

2:23:59 Yeah. They'll be loyal to you. and you enforce your love for them But it can't be done You're a guy who thinks he's going to run the marathon by running as fast as you can right from the This is great. Every single one that's ever existed. about it. I would say like the happiest moments of my life were not when I was sitting there And then other times, I'm like looking at my quaint little apartment

2:27:12 I'd go on a rant about, and those fucking people And I agree with him. You're making a lot of money. with competition is is very self-defeating and a lot of times losing at things is insanely You can have better results because you're still going to have that same competitive drive, but you never allow yourself to hate the opponent. And so I like it when I meet a woman who's like smarter than me, more successful than me. And

2:30:23 And they don't ever allow themselves to see what they're doing wrong because then it as far as how good they are at anything fucking awesome but if you peered in on them you know if you had a window into their trailer and you saw their fucking, you know, dirty socks and their foots kicked up on the couch, you'd be like, oh, my God, you fucking idiot.

2:31:58 around you. You know, you got to learn from the mistakes that people make around you. You got to In a lot of different things And learn a lot of stuff You like it? Like, I got to go see Joe. So shout out to Hassan. If Jamie died, I'd be fucked. You go in here. If Jamie died, it's some podcast he doesn't do. You know, That's the worst. Yeah. Such a little fan boy. Joe Perry. Joe with joe perry joe perry's my friend joe perry from

2:35:13 No breaks, no nothing, right? And I said that I secretly, she goes, what the hell? when she was in the studio, She had this fucking attitude with good joke writing. does a show for our network is very good friends with rosanne and she apparently has like a tv You know, she had this idea about chemtrails. but they really haven't it actually produces

2:37:39 oh, that's what it is. got a fucking sailboat you just left and right no you you have to go exactly where they tell you to I mean, I think the human and, you know, understandable reaction is aviation you know everything about viruses you know everything about computer codes you know It means you were wrong. Or this position of being better or winning.

2:39:43 And it's true. Of course you can't know everything. Of course you do, stupid. And that's the problem is that in small social circles And so when you're in an open environment Right, exactly. In fact, I trust people more when they say, I don't know. you know, I read all kinds of shit. how about this do you think that that same approach would have ever been done if it was a man

2:43:01 You know, kind of like, all right, well, do you read newspapers? waiting to drop that, what do you read, bitch? Set her up with a big right hand. Meow. Yeah. It also sounds like an incredibly flawed system that you're taking part in. My God, how much money. Why would we do that? it's amazing it's so much money face I mean I always wonder Koch brothers just living like gangsters They're just constantly getting massaged and eating grapes. People dangle grapes over their face.

2:46:39 Yeah. And first of all, they're terrible people. Yeah. I would get a jet ski that goes 100 miles an hour. I mean, what's the point of building this kind of wealth if you don't actually enjoy it? You're very respected. I don't fucking know. like an affordable form of health insurance for kids. Like, all of these things were paid for by out there doing it as a gig you know and then you're teaching people how to do it and do it

2:51:14 So check me out there and Instagram, Anna Kasparian TYT. It was really fun. but we got some good ones