Joe Rogan Experience #612 — Billy Corben Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. I can do that all the time. Dude, are you listening to Rogan? Are you listening to Rogan? They'll keep getting out there. Why is that? Now, maybe a Kindle store, but like, this town to me like it just it's it's sad to me. Miami is like, I think Tony Montana said it best. And that's the thesis of all of our work, in a way. Yeah, I mean I obviously like it here in a lot of ways what I don't like here is the amount of humans

3:53 It's gonna mean a lot more if something happens to her Because we're all, to be fair, the center of our own universe. And usually they want to be someone special because they weren't special when they were You don't have to put in work anymore. somebody who's actually an accomplished right artist and say like, his art isn't worth as much He wants people to pay attention to him.

6:26 is to keep rubbing his back and pushing him out I was a jury foreman in a criminal case in I could see from the window in the jury pool room, of Miami Marlins Stadium, baseball park. this completely talent-free uh writer at the herald she actually slept her way to the middle And my parrot won't shit on the Herald, you know, when I line its cage with it.

8:55 He goes, Justin Bieber has 22 million. all he had to say yeah justin bieber has. He didn't say to me, like, I'm ashamed having someone in your life to keep you in check like that Why don't they just Kanye pick who wins everything? everybody dresses up like a penguin and you all Bio or blurb on me. They'll be like award-winning filmmaker. I'm like, I don't actually think I've won any awards

10:57 It's funnier when you explain it, I think. But they're the only ones that got that joke. Picked like yes. Yes. It's me Microphone and the one who has the voice and that this is somehow or another makes you special, but it doesn't it's just entertainment Yeah, but it was very good to me. because you mentioned it when you were talking about the casting process

13:49 and you kind of have to look like, what is it? JBTV Development Call, and I'm staring at the word, and it loses its meaning. stifle progress it it actually has a reverse effect it's like de-evolution it's like do it that's our development in the non-fiction world this whole like scripted thing we're like Nothing breaks my heart more. because i'm just like i'm like i'm contributing to the distraction here is what I feel like. And but but it really frustrates me.

17:09 change maybe a little maybe a little bit of awareness in my corner of the Twitter verse but gets 47% of the vote in four more years to destroy the state of Florida. Because what they're trying to do is beat 2016, where not only is it a presidential election, so turnout in Florida could be as much as, I don't know, 12%. One thing's for sure. People weren't, I think, getting out, not getting out

20:01 that marijuana that a marijuana there's nothing else I could possibly think of in this country that we have needlessly Yeah, the refunds. you know that this is just really an inefficient of the likes that we have. These are men, women, and children. Yeah, I know. off the state. is just one small city among brand that we have which is the most famous city in in the area and so one of these cities these

23:14 because South Florida's revenue is what finances Tallahassee, Yeah, that's the blue tip. But you're seeing now a new generation, third and fourth generation Cubans who are now being actually born in Miami. This kind of like, you know, the spirit of like the spirit of like ownership of belonging, You're a Miami fanboy. Like, I need some arroz con pollo.

25:03 Because Miami, like, you just just, I mean you can drive the peas fall over into the mashed potatoes You have then like I was saying in Miami, even, you have Venezuela, a Brazilian neighborhood. any of them they'll tell you oh my great bro like like for truth bro like seriously like my great particularly when anybody outside of Miami, right now Sun Life Stadium in Miami Gardens, one of the most dangerous municipalities in Miami,

27:38 We are, you know, T.D. Allman had a book called City of the Future about Miami. You sure? into that part of the country? Whoa. That was dead ringer for oddly for my dad It's like, is there this overwhelming influx of transgender people in our culture? The internet. the sentiment was very different from whatever like from circa ellian gonzalez that was like

31:00 drug business per se but this is the, is the most successful case study in history for Ronald Reagan's trickle-down economics theory. bringing in about $5.2 billion a year in Miami. Drugs, they were estimating, was generating $7 Influx of cash. And it's true that if you took a $20 bill or denomination of 20 or above cash in Miami and tested it, there were traces of cocaine on almost every single bill in Miami.

33:09 Oh, absolutely. the community that they're policing and so it was a federal judge who just waved you know So really, the system worked in a way in that they weeded out, you know, the worst of them. You have a steroid epidemic in the police departments that the unions have completely precluded municipalities from being able to test officers. Wow. But I mean, this dude was juiced.

36:18 And you could probably maintain that amount of mass for a couple years and then everything would break. a ton of them. There's levels of course like everything else like you could smoke a little pot and be fine carry on a conversation could take a small amount of steroids and probably it would help you recover and but the problem with Joey's age, he's like

38:48 of steroids in the ufc i mean a true epidemic and not just the ufc but mma in general there's been they were like, hey, George Zimmerman got attacked. This guy was too fucking stupid to be one of those idiots. It becomes a stare down or this face off, it's a shootout. He was a volunteer. and they're telling him, was on the phone with this girl as it turns out,

41:37 He took it upon himself because there was some robberies in the neighborhood. I mean... And so we had this fan page that we put on Facebook, which has about 185,000 or so fans. own page. Why do you do that? bodies and and what contractual arrangements arrangements consenting adults can enter into. It was like hold on he was like trying to figure it out

43:57 Hookers. Which that seems fair. It's hilarious. That seems it's like, no, no, your honor. She's really a hooker. I paid her and we had sex. Like, And she goes, yeah. Like that. Like, $10,000. Yeah, I mean, it's mind-numbing. He was in jail for 24 hours. the trolling my own page bullet. So once in a while, that come out of the athletic department. Great.

48:20 ever seen in my life it was so disturbing and i just left it there and let the, you know, of, like, some rapper that, like, people claimed was Trayvon and like like things that were debunked you know via scopes and otherwise Yeah, you just put, well, it's more like, yeah, it's like this. Right. And there was people who just literally... No, I seriously doubt that.

50:52 Switch the races. He wanted to be dirty fucking Harry. Yeah, go get dry. Alright, you too, man. And then we're good. distorting people's aggression, thanks to the Internet, is creating an environment where kids are actually feeling like, Oh, damn. and then he shoots him. Jesus fucking Christ. No, no, no. Yeah, I'm pretty sure he's out now. I am not a fan of vigilante justice,

54:11 not good maybe i mean and also he's he's become a hero of the ted nugent crowd you know the people This guy was stalking him with a gun. because I wish I knew what really happened. There's another situation where the lack of empathy to me in the Twitterverse is just They didn't even engage the kid. a goddamn you know what they call that that's called contempt of cop because there's never a

56:55 they're completely bogus. some people get their car impounded, Legal theft. They get the... They could take cash from you. You know what I mean? There's video of this where and they say, we are going to process your case. It becomes a bean count to operate, yeah. They don't care. The riots they're having all throughout the country about Eric Gardner.

1:00:39 there again. And he just went fucking crazy. I think that the mind can only withstand so much stress and being a cop is a fucking Herein lies the problem. feeds this mental idea that you might very well be right. OK, you know, you need there. race riot capital of America And they all resulted in horrific race riots. we're having this world-class event.

1:03:48 But my take on it was, that should be how cops always are. fuck is really going on. place, and the only reason it happened, because of taxes. You don't get choked to death on the street like an animal. So I'm like, that's a fucking choke. Yeah, but that's the real issue. anti-revenue generating No, you have to research it. little haiti neighborhood that the city of miami police's arrest quota they actually had from from

1:07:02 What would happen in this country if the entire country, no one's going to steal, We have internal moral compass. I said earlier, I'm like, God, I wish I could be corrupt, you know, like I, so I can make more money and, you know, and, and take care of my family better. But like, But I think actually creates, makes us a little bit more civilized. Whatever it takes.

1:09:07 I've never once tried to take them off the internet. There's a swarm of them. I just think... I guarantee you, by the end of this podcast, it's inevitable. me I'm like well good luck with that that's not gonna happen unless you roof I really do. and they'll say, look, this one thing You know if you went back and took time when Henry Ford's driving around a stupid fucking shitty car, you know

1:12:32 I mean, the hoverboard's dog shit. much the world has changed particularly tech technologically there was no twitter there's This is just the infancy of this era. strange way where it's not gonna matter what part of the world you're from it's you're talking about 150 years that ain't shit that's not shit historically. I mean, that's so, so recent and more so now

1:14:55 where I saw this one guy Like, okay, fuckhead. Like Black Annie. there was the black airplane, with Soul Plane. Not only that, opportunist, kind of a cunt. The Tanning of America, One Nation Under Hip Hop. for the first black president and so we had four hours to kind of prove this this thesis and we go to are you guys doing it? That's what you cover historically. And I never thought

1:19:00 Yeah, white male privilege. You should. You should I know. And I thought about it. I watched The Cosby Show, A Different World, but what the hell am I watching it for? But I loved it. And then you look at Russell Simmons, teams up with Rick Rubin, a white Jewish guy at NYU. kids who didn't want to listen to what their parents were listening to. about it? I'm dealing with the same thing right now with dogfight. That's what I'm dealing with.

1:21:57 Because he became the role model for a new generation of young people in Miami to literally try to fight their way to a pretty reasonably sized lot so you have a little house and you have a a nice size yard and so dada 5000 dafier harris he's this guy who actually there's a video of him a youtube video that we Caught him in a fucking guillotine. Did you see that fight?

1:23:52 I mean, it was one within the first 15, 20 seconds of the fight. Oh, dude, I've seen them all. a third black. so they can't get work, millions of dollars. How old is Kimbo? I think he was like Wow. of what your body can and can't do. I mean, you just sort of like go at it. And you can't fucking do that. and what allowed them to transition into MMA.

1:27:36 They can just, especially for some reason, it seems like Mexicans in particular have very good cardio. They learn how to be more efficient with their movement. Like Vladimir Klitschko, who is just unstoppable as the heavyweight champion in boxing. I'm kind of fascinated by this It's coming out March 12th. You're going to be able to get it there at the site.

1:29:27 It's so good. He saw a rough cut. Cocaine Cowboys 2 might have even been better. listen, I did Cocaine Cowboys 2 hustling with the godmother. I directed a I did Cocaine Cowboys 2 Hustlin' with the Godmother. I directed as much as the first one? No, I don't. Really? it's the same thing with kids. You can't possibly, Because I think when kids fuck up...

1:31:03 I had a dog that killed one of my other dogs. And she lived at the pound. because uh when I picked her, she couldn't even talk. fucking loved people man she loved people she was so happy to be out of that but she didn't like weirdness you get a chance that because there are people who endure in I would consider, and many other people consider, intolerable stress and abuse and don't become psychotic assholes.

1:34:07 they probably didn't get the attention that they deserved, by imitating their environment. Or, they stimulus and depending on your size I don't buy that at all. probably have kids before you say that i really do i think you should probably have kids and raise And there's certainly a lot of deterministic factors choose I don't think it is. You're saying that some people,

1:37:40 Yes. Yeah, but it's also a question of how you define. But that's the flu. Because they're assholes as and you would argue and and and and that's because they're most likely ignored right? However, most likely, if they become cunts, it's because someone did a shitty job of raising Yes, it's crazy. that's what's going on children are animals okay just like a person and a grown adult is an animal

1:40:16 already fucked and that is the case with human beings you develop a certain amount of pathways in your mind, in your intellect, in the way you hey, you know, I need a pill to fix my kid. No you deal with this kid let's put him on prozac well that's what happens how do you then explain the Some people get five miles in, I'm going to learn and I'm never going to have a drink.

1:42:29 about food. Like, he Other people could have been exposed to the same situation. A lot of it is these subtle variables that happen that people you know but you're arguing it so strongly like you you have this in your mind But you do have but but but uh schizophrenia is is a legitimate mental defect always an opportunity to change that or to reverse that trend, regardless of how well

1:45:07 in individuals. Legitimate defects in individuals. Call them misunderstood, but is ignored and is treated in a way where it's very irresponsible the way a lot I mean, I can't be too specific about it, beginning to to where they are now to the point where me me and my family were they're scared of everything It's not natural to see your parents just as you go to bed and as you wake up.

1:48:00 They're not around her. You're supposed to be around her hours and hours. You'reosed to be cuddled and nurtured and you play with them and you teach them about life You're developing a thing, a thinking thing, that mentality. So I'm not trying to get parents off the hook fighter. You don't get to be a fighter. to him saying, I am not going to be like that anymore.

1:50:25 And I see it from friends. And we're going to have a good time. I mean, it allows us to become successful to the point where we have less stress. I mean, once you can have a nice meal and you don't worry about food, Come on, it's all more money, problems biggie said it right you know it's it's at a certain point time it becomes you you trap and we're coming out to L.A. and it's like,

1:52:39 and it dawned on me it's like it's something kind of outside of our it's it's in the entertainment and we're pretty happy So, yeah, I don't know if that's a product of being, and ten years ago, I would have been like, oh, shit, this is it. And I'm thinking, because we did this doc for ESPN called Broke about professional athletes going broke. Maybe you get married again.

1:54:53 you are making the most you're going to make uh and then you retire and that entire structure is They make decent money or they make league minimum, whatever it is, but they still have to work. From Cocaine Cowboys. Because my friends are going to be like, dude, my employer is going to start retesting if you say you sold me some piss. Adderall? I ate Jolt Energy Gum before the show.

1:56:48 That's bad. I'm in LA, dude. Stop, stop, stop, stop. So drug trends I find like nostalgia trends are cyclical. So MDMA was on the rise then. I had friends who were seniors. with some friends. That was like a foreign concept to me. So I was like the straight arrow. I've seen people get fucked up on weed, but like have panic attacks. I mean like I felt if I did coke you'd have to scrape me off the fucking ceiling with a shovel or a rake or something.

1:59:47 Believe it or not. People that are on coke just won't shut the fuck up. the biggest concern there is like, what are you actually ingesting? I mean, all these fucking people that are smoking fake weed, they're smoking this spice You know, it's like the same argument against artificial sweeteners, but to a much heightened, legal, although I wouldn't smoke it.

2:01:46 I mean, it's literally just brainwashing that you could think, But why are people OK with it? I mean, that's what everybody does. And so instead of sitting around dicking around at home, I did that all throughout my childhood. Cunts. Shut the fuck up. Fucking assholes. Whatever it is. because how much are these kids going to make that they could go out

2:05:09 and they drive around in Rolls Royces and shit. They could just use asset forfeiture and take the too. Isn't that crazy? But, like, I mean, Oh, there's ghosts. Like that's the room. No boo. Especially on seminal land. I'm like, the Indian casino is the only casino where the house never wins. but what's interesting is that like now, there are like no native Americans that work at these casinos anymore.

2:08:15 Well, that's always been an issue on Native American reservations, right? And these are the people. and dude they bought one of the most American brands girlfriend was doing a project for school a few months ago and it was about the appropriation of native american culture you could just change the name. And that's a real kind of like white guilt moment for me.

2:10:35 Yeah, that's offensive, you fuck. And she starts going and getting like racist iconography through the years, particularly inside comparisons to like classic you know pre-civil that kind of shit yeah and that way and then white privilege as a white man i started to feel all fucking bad about it again It's not! And because our fans aren't offended by it, we had slavery out of tradition. Does Andrew Mimer still have a fucking black lady that looks like a slave on the cover of their...

2:12:57 But she's a lovely woman. Yeah, right? Good Lord. Yeah. Oh, my God. Aunt Jem she used to look like man good lord yeah oh my god mama used to Yeah, I don't think we're being overly sensitive is what I'm saying. The mascot was the fucking Italian guy with a hairy chest and gold chains looking stupid with pasta stains on his shirt Dude, it is fucking treacherous.

2:14:53 you know the highest elevation when they did that movie It's all trash. Why? I was on a trip in Canada, and I was watching it with a friend who had never seen it before. shit got real. It's when shit got where in terms of censorship where you could start getting away you start pushing the envelope in the like those early Dirty Harry movies are like brutal.

2:17:04 they're great actors. It feels real. watching something that could actually be taking place. Hustle of the Godmother. I can't complain about sequels. What was wrong with part two? We did this doc called Raw Deal, A Question of Consent. I was talking about these very liberal public record laws we have in Florida. Yeah, I'm a Lackawanna County resident. Going to the University of Florida, 11 I lived in Gainesville really yeah you were a Lackawanna County resident

2:18:53 wow yeah a big brother little brother a bonfire. I don't know what the hell they do. which is kind of interesting because most of the questions in America They were like, what is this Greek, you know, It's creepy. And she told the University Police Department that they had videotaped it and they go and get the videotape footage. So the second videotape doesn't show that much more.

2:21:37 because there's like a they're like making copies the videotape and sending it to people so white middle-class jewish kids i say that to say we had similar kind of life experiences and come come at things with a not dissimilar worldview so they said did you hear She's kicking and trying to get away. He said, did you hear about the video? And I'm like, what on earth?

2:23:31 and diametrically disagree They never touched the girl a lot of the guys were alibi one guy was at an ATM machine it's mostly acquaintance or date rape what i think though is that you have to a lot of strip clubs in Florida. And he found a lot of professional girls, so to speak, who would what point can you you know at any point if a woman doesn't want if there was i i pull the

2:26:24 But for others, it's a tuesday night but for others it's like this is appalling i don't want to associate my gender's behavior does she expect will happen that's much more the mentality of not kennedy democrats but they wound I think. But how do you find a jury of 12 people that is going to convict based on her being... She writes, the woman went to dance at all of these houses, leaving her two children who are

2:29:00 but I was like, how does that have any, who are, But I will put it to you this way. It can be a very disturbing. common? They're a What percentage is not common? Yes, which is common, right? I think that's the statistically proven number as far as like investigated false reporting and their entire past You know, there's people that are full of shit and there are men and there's people that are full of shit that are women.

2:31:39 Maybe men. it's pretty close but you know the the rape thing thing, as far as like, I think there's way more rape than there is falsely accused, false rape claims. Oh, yeah, man. And you could find yourself in a lot of trouble. You know, and that is what allows someone to rape someone. Bullworth? White people treated like shit no matter what color.

2:35:10 And 18-year-old kids that are drunk, feeding off It speaks to our weird, the way that human beings imitate our atmospheres, I have to ask you this because, I mean, you've talked about it a zillion times, but like America's gun culture, that's what everybody says. And the celebration of violence, of course, in our something that people don't like to bring up when they bring up a Newtown massacre or something.

2:37:36 But correlation does not equal causation, right? They just let me have a fucking pistol. if you were a criminal went on the street to get it it would be even easier than you walked into That's fucking crazy. you're above average The fact that you have to go through this difficult taxing process to get a car. There's people that are legitimately worried for good reason that a lot of people have this knee-jerk reaction when any sort of violent crime goes down to take all the guns away from the people.

2:40:18 because guns Wouldn't it just be... And oftentimes that is true, but the aberration, the person who is a polite society. And oftentimes that is true. The heat was inspired by it. That's what happened in Miami. and then just drop it and they were just, this war wagon, six shooters by the way because that's what they were carrying in miami in 1979 and they flipped

2:43:35 agencies that would work together the this history of which traces back to the untouchables because and they had to deal automatic wounds from dude that was the best I know a guy who was a trauma doctor at Jackson Memorial Hospital. I mean, they were raping little old Jewish ladies, Holocaust survivors, who made it out of Germany but could not survive the Mariel Boatlift in Miami.

2:45:58 The guy gets discharged, leaves the hospital. One day she finds a little baggie with white powder in it That's our Emmy. Billy, thank you very much, man. And Cocaine Cowboys 1 and 2. It's excellent. We'll see you next week. Good night, everybody.