Joe Rogan Experience #648 — Adam Scorgie Transcript

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0:00 Hey! about like how cool it was where because you were busy as shit when you did the culture high because everybody always asked being you know fans of the show they're like man rogan seems so cool i'm like But you know how to talk? which is just inexorably wrapped up in the cannabis market. I came back from New York and all the guys that like I went to school with and stuff were growing and we're doing really well.

2:33 and it took a while before you decided to do another one on pot yeah you would like i was to prevent new crimes but something that's happened almost strictly because of the drug war cousins, murder, something really heinous, you don't want to talk to the cops. Cause you were like, well, I don't want to talk to the police anymore. So when a violent crime happens, rape, murder, something really heinous,

4:03 and take a picture and see their handcuffs. And it was like, cool. By the end of their career, they would drive down werewolf Weiler or something like that. It was just, it's so sick because they do it to intimidate because he knew that this was on his route. So he would just intercept it. And so like, They shoot the guy's dog, and then they ran out.

6:13 Well, and then you can imagine if you're from a lower economic situation, right? funny because that opening scene like people are shocked by it but i've we've received a lot of You want to leave out the disturbing things from the documentary on disturbing things? were less than uh ten thousand dollars in cash and they accused him of you know i guess they have

7:59 You know, I don't know if he put it in a safe or whatever, And you sit down with... If they see too many deposits just conveniently under $10,000, they consider it? It's just evil. requirements that you have to meet It's like, is meth worse for you than marijuana? You could see her deer in the headlights look like, did you fucking prepare for this at all, lady?

10:32 and he's like, and that's what nobody gets about Obama. you figure, well, those guys are the most popular candidates. Who chooses that? They call it the Federal Reserve. And everybody was like, whoa, whoa, what? Definitely that access you guys talking about a lot here on the podcast, but that access to information is change the game and now he's just scared, don't peel me, don't peel me. And now you Snopes, and everybody's like,

13:54 Darwin Awards one. But then Absolutely not. They really you really can trick a good giant chunk of the people and we were talking about before but the Commission for presidential debates just in order to reach 15% in popular polls, has been going on for so long and no one like no one in the political system, no one Like, that's fucking scary. the primary reason why marijuana is legal in colorado marijuana is legal in washington dc

17:22 like okay i'm on web md Like what study are you referring to? We have some good clips of him where they kind of challenge him on things, right? A different kid, but my friend's child right? A lot of them psychoactive pills. And it's sad that your friend has to move to another state of it but if people are seeing benefits we can't prohibit them from getting it so you can get like

19:32 concentrate. I'm going to break the law. there's a plant it grows naturally and it's really good for you and it's that simple the end right Like, you can't, like, yes, people can abuse just about anything. It's horrible. They're making so much fucking money whores they're all politicians are whores man i mean that's really what they do that's their their

22:22 Shoot some powder up in the air and it takes you where the wind. And so they become very skeptical. I think that's really hilarious. out of pot or what are the things that pot are good for like this thing about like i don't want And like you said, the internet is allowed where all those individual personal stories all over the world can be shared in real time.

24:48 Like you couldn't do that years ago. They were best friends. I'm from Harvard. I'm a Harvard professor. regular treatment through the oncologist, going through the chemo and everything. And Danny was because they're willing to try it they've read his paper at the manuscript they go to the local He was actually able. And Lester's like like it gave my son an extra two years of life because he could battle

27:43 that shouldn't be a viable option debate this this is like you and me sitting down talking about the benefits I mean, all I knew was that, like, there was drugs drugs and there was pot and pot just kind of made you dopey. But I remember like the next day like this horrible hangover this pounding headache and thinking how the fuck is that? Like, it's beautiful guys that are clean cut and girls that are smoking hot,

30:12 side of weed. And then here I was, a nightclub owner, serving people booze that they want. Probably that is right. That's it. I can just imagine what they did with the severely injured guy. They probably just Particularly. like so many different things go wrong when people drink and it's everywhere. will fight their friends like they'll get drunk and like all of a sudden I'm like dude you

33:11 all the time well imagine if you had like 50 000 people at tequila fest imagine what kind of a And and the politicians are are gonna have to adapt because They just did they just did a report rather they said he spent ones to treat because you've got to eat. so that you have a taste for it. because I said I was going to do it, you know, and didn't have to do it, but I had to do it because I said I was going to do it. Yeah. You know, and I wrote about it,

35:50 and I get a heart on it. you don't realize like, this pulsating, overwhelming need. You know, have this overwhelming need. This pulsating, overwhelming I've never tried. My wife brought home Krispy Kreme dough those are crack kids and stuff and the cupboards full of shit. And then I'm like, Oh fuck it. I'll grab one of these. Yeah. The other day, If those came in the house,

37:02 Like right when they come out of the oven, They're way better than Dunkin' Donuts. They're not the same. Don't get me wrong. Now both countries, same in the US, a way better place. But Are you left or right? There's different social structures and history and religious and you guys are dealing with shitty donuts Not even. Isn't it weird? Well, I don't even get in.

40:20 It still has one of those DVD drives I have one of those On my other laptop Everybody's like Steve Jobs what the fuck is wrong with you It hasn't been. Getting the funding. I wouldn't say sneaks through. I'd say majority It's much more about US politics and And the local law enforcement was not willing to prosecute him. We arrest the guy that bought it.

43:10 Like, you guys took the tax Yeah, that's the polarizing aspect of it. And it gets tough because a lot of people didn't like the way he did things. Yeah, and he's, you know, he's back to his old ways and smoking pot and making videos and all this stuff. And actually, the prosecutor grace did you see her argument with two chains yes i see all her stuff i post them and tweet

45:08 Rapists! then when we rolled camera he was totally different andReilly, yeah. Right? And he was saying how he was great right before we started rolling camera. Then when we rolled camera, he was totally different, right? effects look at her Nancy Grace that Trayvon Martin did have marijuana in his system at the time he died. you just want to lay on the sofa and eat?

47:01 Or I've got to be smoking, or I've got to be high on pot. That scared man that's afraid that Mexicans are going to move into his neighborhood. Well, that was part that Brett really wanted to tackle in directing the cult try, he goes in and he started pushing buttons of both sides and saying oh they're both corrupt and then You look at the evidence, you go, okay, well, there's no one has ever died from it ever.

49:35 episodes and people is pretty much it's in line with the population and if you Did you give it to Jamie? Schizophrenia Schizophrenia just one spliff and you will go mental in which the illness is brought on perhaps a little earlier should see more people with schizophrenia. factors. And by applying it all to cannabis, And that is doing much more harm

53:14 because he was a Holocaust survivor, right? His family, they escaped. And when he was perfectly But they like I've never experienced with my children fortunately And that fear and tension and arguments and everything else So con like he does it like to put in one sentence. He says it this way were 600 times greater. dr carl hart talked about when he was on your podcast so they don't want to come on like it

56:24 and they're all yelling in and you know, have earpieces in. just run away she would not they would not come there's no way she would You know, I'm a fat shamer. Those words that come out of his mouth in a position of power will affect people. Yeah, he's he's got a lot of courage for doing that They just don't want to ever admit that they were incorrect

58:55 But it sort of touches on that a bit because you see these people that didn't want to admit that this religion, quote unquote, that they'd gotten into was a bullshit. the world a better place and do all that he's like but once I read this he was And they like try to get their shit people and they really like have been focused and they like Don't think it's all bad. No, but isn't that isn't that ultimately would like for to me

1:01:01 And if you disobey, then you burn in hell or whatever. So much so much of what they're doing is like I like the way they behave I like that See if you can find that, Jamie. Yeah, I'd much rather dress like that. Vaisakhi in April giver of peace, that's right Let's play that thing about genes, man. It's interesting to see or to ask who becomes addicted.

1:04:08 is getting the dopamine from an outside substance, What was positive in your experience of it? although it is a problem, but it's not the problem, it's the addict's attempt to solve as to make the addictive substances more appealing to the individual. Addicts! How great, like, you nailed it. based on the largest case control That you take too much and you're fucked.

1:07:41 I will fight any man, by the way, who suggests that. You ate a pound of salt and you died. Mountains. And he's been, And it's really funny, the debate. And isn't there two? glass that they're finding, they do core samples. They dig down 12,000 for 12,000 years. They get Woolly mammoths, saber-toothed tigers, like 60% of all land mammals. someone covered that 12,000

1:11:24 the material that's between the stones and, you know, the biological material, The way that I even knew how to pronounce it was because we'd heard Graham and then, I've lost 60 pounds. Well, I should get back into boxing and martial arts Just to the head aren't good try yoga I think, and also like the self-reflection, and putting like, it was very good for me

1:14:22 I mean you could call that guy a wife beater you're not figuring it out right away. the more you learn about yourself in pursuing that task and the more beneficial it is to you For your first project to be that good. took a while, Like so many people said the union would never work. That's crazy. It was, you know, like you said, a grand slam for our first film.

1:17:05 So at 10 years old, 10, Ray makes a promise to his dad, So in The Good Son, Ray meets the son of the man that he killed 30 years later. Because G1 wanted to meet him and wanted to put at rest and let him know that, you know, it was just two warriors that went to war. Ray was his chance at success he was not going to lose that fight and the first That still did not detour him, right?

1:19:25 amazing individual are you a fan of documentaries you like a warner herzog fan or anything you reaching out to me saying I used your film as a catalyst for my graduating argument. moored yeah you know what i mean yes unfortunately he can do so good but then he pushes it too far I think Bowling for Columbine was fascinating. He made feature docs mainstream.

1:21:46 If someone gets a dangerous weapon in their hands when they have mental problems bad things can happen prescribed some antidepressants. And one summer he just started acting really sporadically out then they started doing the blood tests and they started testing to see what would work. But you have to be very careful. wean off of that so what a lot of them encourage which comes back to kind of we're saying like

1:24:02 things. So even if it's a business meeting or something, he's like, I try just to stay away from, It's just one of those things. he's like man when i was in my crazy days like i used to ride my my dad's motorcycle going 80 are like you're crying one minute then you're mad and and luckily like you know not a lot of them have a high percentage but he's doing

1:26:35 or not they're balanced. You don't know whether or not it's going to keep working, like whatever You know, I have a Cara Santa Maria who's in the culture high. Conduit. I get these conversations with all these fantastic people like Graham Hancock or Neil deGrasse Tyson Like I listen religiously. How dare you? So good. I'm loving that. I think his name is Lars Anderson.

1:30:28 how good this guy is at this. shows all the different things he could do look how quick I was just going to say, how many hours in a half a second. Well, he shoots the arrow in the air as it's coming towards him. It's possible. So, I mean, you could see how you could. I'm like, palm, palm, palm, palm, run on the ground like there's a way to be lighter kind of like you know sprinters are much more on their tippy toes for a

1:33:26 Yeah, yeah, it's weird like you switch those work as like a little bit of a spring for you It's when I get home and I can feel it the first couple of weeks I'm on the treadmill. to pace a bit better. You know, like I feel like I'm doing something wrong. It's much easier for a takedown. They run on the balls of their feet totally naturally. And when I go to his daycare, I see all the kids are doing like they're so giant heads

1:35:59 Their weight's all out of whack. the way you stand like giving yourself an incline like because of the fact you have heels on like because you're kind of stepping on this odd sponge, I didn't know about this. Is this new? Yeah, this year. Oh, this is new because there was class action lawsuit and the oh consumer injury lawsuits i didn't know about this

1:38:19 That could be the result of wearing toning shoes like Skechers shape-ups, Stress. really stupid I try to wear things as flat as possible my favorite shoes are I don't think it'll help the bone, but it might help you split and open. Supposed to be really bad for you. It's just a little tiny one that I put in my front pocket. I travel too much. I read I just don't understand how the fanny pack got out of favor I just

1:41:14 Because I have my passport and, like, my green card and everything. and that that bag had to either be put in another bag It's a fanny pack that's connected. It gets so ridiculous to me when someone tries to get the gold star. Yeah, I had a guy pull me out of line last time I went to Canada What is that called? What's up, Joe? And I had my passport.

1:43:51 But for whatever reason, I don't know if he decided, like, we're going to, like, target people who look like they lift weights. And they're like, your bag is tested positive for cocaine. There's no cocaine in my bag. They're like, well, how is it all over your bag? I'm like i'm like i have no idea and then so we run in the back for hours people do a rail wipe their hand grab the bill and i'd done the cash deposit for the nightclub

1:45:49 through vancouver you got flagged they'd pull me aside pull me and finally i was so mad it was like Just make you sit there. It's one 30 in the morning. there's nothing every check your thing. guy who got in trouble for structuring you know it's like it's like the same you did it similar I don't know about that Jamie Vernon So I was like, you can't kick me out of my own country.

1:47:58 just like let's not get to the nitty-gritty i said no no you're a border guard you're asking I'm like, do you guys know where you're starting? Like, the big guys smuggle hundreds of tons, like, through transport ships. inside those speakers and all the different he's an old school legend yeah where's that guy now Everybody's laughing when he's on. he yeah he he and then the other part that's funny too is when he talks about the dea and It sounds like he was having a ball. A ball. He was like a rocker. Yeah.

1:50:20 He was amazing. What's next? Oh, wow. why it evolved over the years. that plays into it because such a fast game and you're on a foreign surface with razor blades on than when you have a six foot six killer That part has always been lost in the argument, is how selfless they were. or they get knocked out and then they have can so the humility of them they're some of the greatest

1:53:51 And he got knocked out in a game against, when he was like, well, once I realized where i was and what happened i was like Yeah. I always wondered like when you see violence in NHL or football, I wonder how And it's depending upon a bunch of factors. Robbie'd probably be favored. WWE champ and big pro wrestling guy. Like, GSP in Canada, I mean, you're talking about a god there, right?

1:56:25 And just, he's so classy. oh, wow, I can see how he's a champion. He just keeps getting injured. That's what I was going to say, He out-conditions some of the 155-pounders. They're fighting Fabricio Berdum. elevation up there my dad i thought my dad was having a heart attack the first time we went were so tired. And we've never had Yeah. Didn't he get really sick from overtraining in one of them?

2:00:25 come back, outwork everybody. in the way your body is. But I mean, at that weight, I hit really hard, right? Even Julio Cesar Chavez, arguably one of the greatest of all time, didn't have that vicious one-punch in the eye right and he took it for who's the the brazilian that he fought as a boss dos andros That's the same thing with jiu-jitsu as well.

2:03:06 Jock Machado's Jiu Jitsu Academy or whatever you're you're gonna roll with a bunch of different people like somebody might roll with you to figure out a way to use technique only because i can't overpower you but you can overpower a lot Whereas with jiu-jitsu, it's about moving around it and it's all about- knockouts in his career, but he just does not have the kind of one punch knockout power

2:04:52 That is the most important thing. He's clinching. Is that he could out-condition you. And for Ray, he's like, those were my best rounds. Just the size? Against Horiguchi, who's this badass motherfucker. There's zero that nonsense going on so my opinion like when I look at like you know people say well And another interesting thing is that almost all the deaths that have happened in boxing, a vast majority of the serious injuries, came from guys who cut a significant amount of weight.

2:08:28 I mean, they brutalize their body doing that. and then finally the guy will collapse in the 10th round. Are you know you're gonna have one fucking guy fuck that up Get in front he speaks Immaculately, right? As soon as he ended his career, though, he didn't even spar. ray leonard has to talk about things you did pretty well there's a little there's a little struggle when sugar ray leonard has to talk about things you

2:11:33 Player that had a whole bunch of no, he's definitely not the original guy Bill Romanowski And I'd do the radio station with him and stuff. And he goes, and then he explained it to me. every gig I did. So he took a proactive approach to dealing with it and built up this line of products and what does it like it like an alpha brain in that one are when i'm writing and being creative he wants alpha brain it's not going to turn us a dummy into a

2:14:18 the more healthy nutrients you take into your body, the better your body functions, period. And they've isolated improvements in memory improvements in memory, improvements in executive function, The benefit is you don't have to search for words as much. You've got to set up the light. There's very few things as important as sleep. So, like, if you take, this is

2:16:43 to ensure that no one is gonna complain about being? cognitive function is one of the most important things to me the way the I'm the same way. You know, when you're on the road, go to a supermarket. You need to start putting that into the line items of things to get done. fortunate there knock on wood i'm good with that but i just feel i i get run down i put on weight

2:19:12 that is acid. I like the taste. We were crushing Red Bull, and we're like, that's why it smells like Red Bull. That's really scary. And then now you have those giant bullets when i'm like they just get never saw him without one of those things. He was completely addicted to them. He was drinking them Five-hour energies kill people? And it was like really high

2:22:15 A good buddy of mine who's a big fan, he'd love a show. The 5-hour energy decaf. Sodium, vitamin B12, large B12. Energy blend. acids caffeine so there's more caffeine on top of it and the energy blend right or is that blend Just some people are overloading when they're doing schooling. For some reason, I thought it was like 65 milligrams. No. Holy.

2:25:23 260 for a tall? 55. Fucking A, man. And it's so easy to do. Get crazy. And he pushes the goddamn stools. It's in a pantry, opens the door, Just letting him wander around. Yeah, and when it came time to cut the cake those little motherfuckers come over with a glaze Fucking cake's awesome. but they always want, like, I mean, when it's time recreate that rush. Like, kids fucking

2:28:37 debate me on Twitter and stuff. Yeah, no, I don't wanna makes you fat But this was the thing that came up with the law enforcement we interviewed. Because statistics show even the most addictive drugs, amount of prison space they need. And it all feeds into this business, which also you guys Seizures of assets and stuff like you don't get to do that for murderers and rapists although you should

2:32:10 Very little has changed, you know, so there's been some movement towards sanity and clarity can no longer prevent the crimes. Hey, you fucks, I saw you making an IED. he said, when his dad went to work, it was like a sports coat, his shirt, his badge, his gun. Well, Right? fucking crown Victoria. It's like you police officers should be respected and appreciated members of

2:35:08 The job is take the money, arrest the guy. And she's chasing after him. And it happened in the midst of chaos where law enforcement has failed. I mean, there's no question you need law enforcement. If something happened to them, you want justice to be done. It's an incredibly tough job. you know, taking witness accounts and dealing with this. They're just so over it. They're just

2:38:07 in and they were the first ones on scene and the smell and i was like dude i like how do you even Yeah. I mean, do they even give you a citation when you have a pipe? I mean, what are they going to do? If there's anything I've learned, we haven't figured out shit. I mean, it's changing all over. Like violent crime has gone down. uruguay and canada's changing policies and u.s every other state seems to be challenging looking

2:41:28 didn't have, you weren't able to reach out like that before, right? There's a time and connectivity It's just too hard. Ridiculous as the people that were involved the Inquisition or the people that were burning witches in Salem all that's actually I don't think they really core samples of the dirt and they found like some certain climatological clues that lead them to

2:43:50 Maybe. in the podcast. Like not only that, forget about even information. knowledge of the crime scene. And it's very controversial. And neuroscientists- Like right now they're getting these signals. Things are coming out every day, and I can't even believe in like like 3d printing blows my mind i don't know how they're like printing ears and like organs like what are

2:46:52 and then they replaced her esophagus. It's an amazing leap. and truth. The ability to recognize well it's purple. Look at your shirt. That's the problem. things and he can yeah he teach me I mean we all know that we all had mentor you know when you're really young you really impressionable and I could have I was just telling my, my buddy that came with me, Trent.

2:49:55 I did one in 2008, 2007, 2008. was one of the people that was in the sea org and like there was this yeah she got interviewed by and just like, oh, it's awful. I used to come from a sales background. does this bug you about your business or when you like a solution to that? Like make you feel good and then make you feel part of a team and then suck you in on

2:52:21 that shit and go god what are we doing what are we doing? What are we doing? This guy was nuts. Maybe we can change it a little bit and make it better, right? It's like he's military. And if you're a fan of human folly, I'm a big fan of folly. a movie clip to me like he was in character I was watching it being like this is real They like it really had this this wasn't yeah, that guy's amazing Tom Cruise is amazing

2:54:23 come up with an idea that's clearly crazy as Maybe 10. It's so close. And I think Tom Cruise is very similar to that. 83. He's a fucking vampire. Looked a little worn out He's a fucking metal. Wearing like the military outfits It's fucking but yet so undeniably successful and so brilliant at what they do. I thought it was a great. I mean, I'd heard that just its opening months was not good, right?

2:57:23 And the concept of redoing the day, I thought it was great. I'm in love. What kind of research have you done? Yeah about especially what kind of tests have you run on Brooke in particular? That was a big one, too. Thank you, man. I'll have you back on again. Also, it's Thank you, my brother.