Joe Rogan Experience #651 — Jordan Gilbert (c9n0thing) Transcript
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0:00 We are live, that's it. you fucking loser, get some shit done with your life. was there any professional option? Like, I want to be on a box. No, it was his computer. Yeah. keep dying and respawning it's like a quake insta give or something you know you just keep but you still have to do maintenance stuff. fascinating is how many people watch live games or even with
3:20 or Warcraft, you're looking at all these spells flying around. They're like, oh, this kid just plays all day for fun and doesn't think about what he's Yeah. I've progressed over that. So I try to make that distinction Do you have to join a league or you have to pay for anything, sign up for stuff? But like, you know how, obviously, if you're going to play in NHL,
5:56 all of them I tell people why their gear is good etc. Okay. So now back to the Counter-Strike, the Half-Life engine. Nope. process out is coming up with a video game engine. registration of like my bullet shooting when i hit a guy like it it worked it hit him when he shot And obviously that's why like I can't when I practice I can't play against Europeans because of internet lag, right?
8:22 level we're really like prima donna's about like what server location what we plan because my teammates are spread around the country I guess so I do that register in your head. Do you notice the difference between 15 and 40? Oh, yeah So my question is like, how 1 today. Well, that's what happened with that's when they lose me yeah fucking spells and so. And so, yeah, that's how I played Counter-Strike.
10:51 pro gamers you a lot of people think everyone's a fat pimply guy well i notice a lot of counter-strike And the thing is, I have friends in those realms too, right? much more strategic way. It really throws me off for a little bit. But no one uses a ball anymore. And I have a question. Quake. like an extension of your hands i don't think i do a lot of actions per minute that i don't even
13:20 That was why I had that question because like if you got super into Counter-Strike and then He's the baddest Because this is really crazy. That's all you get. June 14th. Yeah, we need... Even though it was awesome, it was, like, it moved just a little different. and I can go in and dial it basically into how my Counter-Strike feels. The faster, but some guys really loved it.
16:24 has their wrist kind of set down and when they're when they're moving they have women wrist tamer wrist aimer because I'm doing these bigger movements. Do you have a large mouse pad as well? Do you get outside? Well, when we're... Yeah, for a couple weeks even, I just come back. five of us at least wake up and go to the gym we wake up go to gym shower we play on our own like deathmatch chill eat and then
18:51 practice a 90 degree turn and hitting him in the head so i just constantly have my my back to a guy So are you guys, when you plan out your strategies, do you have a video chat where you go over these strategies in physical form? But those guys are the shit and I'm all friends all them but that point aside arsenal do we have no grenades do we have to dry walk in we say dry when we have nothing to really
21:05 Jamie. we're coming into Joe's studio dry, right? watching the outback to come towards you and help you and then we're gonna in a hat and you play random five versus five teams. And you're all on the same voice server. Where they couldn't miss. So, wallhack is just, obviously, transparent walls. And, like, we used to do that back in the old versions.
23:45 Yeah, but obviously at pro level I don't know cheaters. Oh It's, like, the smallest cheat ever found. And you knew a guy was about to come around that corridor or something. Wow, and so now he's done for the rest of his life. The plastic surgery, yeah, right? It's like God power. that a person could cheat in the professional realm. They're just little dots, right, moving around the rotating map,
26:08 that toggles it on and off, give me the top of the food chain first. and yeah, spells and different heroes. Like, insane. See, your parents have got to fucking respect that, right? You're probably going to not, this might not apply to anything after you've done competing. And I was like, and I included her on it. Pretty soon after I was making a name for myself on the West coast, like there's this little kid sounds like a girl. He's fucking
29:12 Is that the biggest game? 2012. Twitch blew it up because... And you get tips and donations and all that shit. Tips? Are you billion squirting or not? It's been proven by scientists. That was the baby boom right there. right? You get up there, you get high off the people's not pierce people's ears. What are you doing with your money? What? right? Oh, that's awesome, or that's a cool product,
32:09 Whoa, okay. No disrespect, Brian. You can watch poker? Guys play poker? Yeah. Click on one of these and let's see what the fuck goes on. And so this guy is, this is counter-strike. This guy's actually Polish. Is that because the obviously the craze of the graphics and the physics the gameplay itself is less true A lot of people like, or Quake 3 rather became more like Quake 1.
34:34 But then Quake 3 was like sort of the best. You're ruining the movement, Brian. Yes. She's from Canada. She's a cool person. I'm sure we can so shut to you such cute. There it is powerful Joe Do you text her like you know her as a human being? Hope you have a great day or five dollars or three dollars or you have a minimum right scroll back so we can see the
37:09 $5 to subscribe to her channel. You also split the sum with the website. You guys need to tell Kitty to do the flashbang dance. You're going to get a strongly worded message? All right. So people are watching that as TV. i'll go home at the end of the So war the war that's this is the game that Duncan had to throw away three different times Ad revenue.
39:52 To do what? Just to... Did you have to show your dick? Yeah, I was totally pissed. I've avoided them with drugs for the most part, although some would disagree. I flew out of home. That's incredible. Yeah. so I was teaching him and stuff like that he pulled up on the screen So this guy right now is playing this game. Give us some volume so I can hear how this is going on. He's not talking?
42:22 I'm 15 now! He does every Saturday night, he does a 24-hour stream. If they do, do they take you off of Twitch? I was playing Grand Theft Auto when a girl came over and she just started taking off But I play a different way. With a fucking crowbar? Like like that doesn't freak you out people play poker yeah so they normally have like six tables on. It's really down low. Okay, there's poker. Right there, yeah. So you go to poker.
44:59 He has a million views, but quite a bit less than the video games. It's pool night. I think you could I four different games at a time a lot of those video game poker dudes the real aces they do online i think it's something to do with like canada okay so this guy wrote if poker is new you could do like can we do you stream and twitch at the same time oh yes we can folks all right
47:41 I haven't watched it. these guys can... So how else can they make money? I get 70%. So that's automatically 40 grand a month he's making. And he's doing that all on Twitch. of the best. No, and that's the thing Yeah, your chat becomes like a community It's interesting because they really took the formula from porn I have no job. So how did that guy get so big?
50:37 I want to see what other games are available. Oh, so they take pictures of him. Scroll down. Okay, this is a game. I never heard of how many people watching this cat when he's playing Boring all right I went to QuakeCon a couple times in Texas. Like how chess is like a wizard everyone else is like a young kid remember battle chess Tea. Team Deathmatch.
53:25 But even this is old. It was like buy the new game. How are we gonna make money? and for us to have tournaments. and things for your character It's grown a lot with websites like Twitch really combining... Yeah. complexion and excellent bone structure. Look at that jawline. Don't let him use that on you. Joseph Rogan and Brian Redman. Hello, kind sir so is that Kevin's
56:43 like what part of the room How cool this is getting way confusing. This, how cool. This is getting way confusing. Here's his studio. And we all have a show in the band room, but I don't even know how we get out there. Look at this. This is getting way confusing. Oh, Joe, just wait. Now that we've got the bar on the bar. And then on the other side he has...
59:29 and the one on the lower right is real-time. Now why is there three different levels in the bottom? Here's his bar. Wow, here's a bar. Playing ping pong by himself. They've got some other shows they do and some productions they do for other companies. Wow, this is amazing. He's got like ten fucking people working for him. Oh yeah. Oh, right. Sorry, guys, here's a couple bucks. wasted your time can i have that pizza but uh they would
1:02:53 So there's a pretty funny edited version. I don't know if this You're getting pranked you know look me up on YouTube while your guys are storming the house like you're getting pranked like I have no what do they call it? and then traced a log for all the calls I don't even like saying that word. So they have to send one guy. But I walked out to see what's going on and Ray went out my front front door, as you saw, I was in like a tank top and shorts.
1:04:59 A lot of times people have the dog inside the house. I don't have a gun. But yeah, that's the worry. A lot. Now, there's no way they can stop that. who do those denial I'm sure they'd try and they're all, like, Right now, What's your favorite flavor pizza? like being good at it. The decision between being a streamer Oh, that's just creative. Mind occupied.
1:07:51 Yep. Also, everyone having their own TV shows, subscribing to his feedback, chat rooms, all This guy's chat is bullshit. There it is. Oh my God, racism again. Because I'm just tired of the Now, let me ask you this. i only heard about it partially because people were talking about the female side of things and Yeah, I actually don't know the whole story.
1:10:29 little satellite communities and they Just seemed like you know it seemed like there was a lot of bullshit on both sides What were you trying to say, Jamie? There's a cool video on YouTube And then in the background So they're playing, and behind them people are stealing things? Okay, so we're kind of getting off track here. so you could just for a goof you could say oh you know like some people have like a little side job
1:13:10 and they don't even have to be good at games. That's one side of the argument. They purposefully have a hoodie on. She can make money. Is that true? where somebody was saying that the I don't know if this is true but the ultimate fighter only had It's normal nowadays for the low numbers on TV, on cable. That's all data. Yeah, and then I think they still use that, though.
1:16:34 I don't believe they do. there five people watching one screen, right? They won't tell you. Motherfuckers. No, they don't even tell you. Hmm Fucking Christ Because they have 40 million domestic, but worldwide. So obviously on a TV box, you can't turn off the commercial. Yep. Like sometimes if I'm having a really funny stream and there's a bunch of cool shit happening,
1:20:10 they use trailers for movies? But no, but what I can do is Exactly, yeah. Well, those are the people who support me to fly to, like, Europe and all over the world each month. Well, I still have it because I have an unlimited data plan, so I've been resisting. The M8 was dope. Watching it on television. Yeah Korea. It's still huge, right? fuck things up, don't they? That's kind of what happened to the
1:22:33 more efficient, smarter, better than everyone in the world. So like I'll be in a McDonald's and somebody, oh shit, hey, what up? That's like normal at least. Is it comparable to that or more? I'm sure he wasn't even a fastball. He is? There was a guy who was an Asian cat who had his own, he had like a whole server and a whole website rather. And I think for a lot of those guys, the actual gameplay is so involving.
1:24:56 inside i am neglecting my hours are odd right i practice like it's a little evening so a lot of he plays all day he streams all night he's gonna make way more than all of us because he literally ago just to do something else and try to be decently skilled at it just for fun joe and of all the shows that we've ever done joe rogan podcast We've hit some new plateau, I think, with interactivity with this.
1:27:31 donation money and that someone could make Dude. I did all kinds of shit. Yeah. I'm going to Periscope from this UFC this weekend. I'm not going to show the fights. I took them up to the Belly Room. I mean, could you show pornography with that? What do you do for some reason. Hearts. Yeah, that makes sense. How I got banned, though, is because of the fights.
1:30:55 But Periscope and Twitter looked at it and goes, well, that's a stupid rule because you probably have a lot of haters that would just do this every time you get on. What? my channel would get shut down will walk around New York City Especially if it's symmetrical. Well, you're very intimidating when you have no shirt on. Oh, no shit, man. You know what I'll do?
1:33:28 my body i was gonna say man you have a vicious kick i saw something on instagram i was like i I mean, that's all I'm thinking. ocean surfing simulator Like some folks get motion sickness and some people don't. And my kids are the same way doesn't bug them. I was worried that it would get them, but it doesn't get them I think you have to do this that they're using for Oculus.
1:35:51 that would be crazy. like 50 60 pounds well the health apps on the Xbox live are amazing now we fit So it knows it's like you need to bend your arms more. Damn it, Brian. Like you wouldn't be able like there would be no grappling stuff, but you would be able to kick and punch and stuff. That wouldn't work. I really do. Have you seen crisis you can like flip on your power suit? It's like invisibility super strength
1:38:52 He had to go. No, it wasn't Sigourney Weaver. Glenn Close. He's controlling this with his brain twitch.tv slash handy I pick it up. And it falls in my lap and it spills all over me. Yeah, maybe he's, like, drunk robotting. i live in it's always farting and going bad you know i'm getting sick all the time let me just Yeah, he's better than the average player in the world.
1:41:52 I go to tournaments around L.A. when I was younger. A wire? He's a badass guy, because this stuff, like, foot shifters. Yeah, watch him switch weapons. He's a homie. Do you know if he's ticklish? It's called where you just buy everything every round if you keep losing you're not gonna have good inventory And let's see if anybody gets virtually raped.
1:44:30 in And there's a new hack, because the PC version just came out. There's a new hack because the PC version just came out there's a Yeah. Yeah, the PC version does 4K, They're the best computers ever, Joe. Four people talk at the same time, Jamie? It's, like, an NVIDIA 960, The gaming addiction. Shot a lot of hard drives. Well, that's a double-edged sword, right? Addiction. When I used to make my own computers, I heard and then you had to throw it away Couldn't take it shot him all the game
1:47:11 what else did you do at that point in your life, like, early on? you can't just kind of have to do one, have to do the other. they have to do their physical conditioning, they have to do their, you know, all the different It's like, say if someone gave you a computer, like to be an MMA fighter there's a very very short window computer to body yeah Yeah, but I think that number has been growing.
1:49:33 If he can still do that and still be into it and train and do everything he needs to do, He has a very defensive-oriented, like Floyd Mayweather. He's not going to be able to be Bernard Hopkins you're dealing with such a small window of opportunity for, like, and I've been trying it for the past couple months a little bit, brand exactly how to spell it but I would yeah I've always I've always been interested in it
1:51:49 I have two rules I like to get sleep, and I don't like to be on a full stomach when I compete so then just do it yeah is that is that what you do you just literally go to an open mic night everybody sucks in the beginning there's no worries but deprecation deprecation appreciation self-deprecation is that one yeah yeah i used You're a smart guy. You'd probably be able to pull it off.
1:53:43 There's nothing prohibitive about it to make sure you're watching from both studying the top players what are they doing and i didn't necessarily do what they did it just gave Then all of a sudden I'm gonna die even though I just killed two people and it seems like we should win the round but i killed two and then went and died for no reason Well, no, he's really technically good at that. You're technically not as good as him at that
1:55:56 60 bucks an hour, I'll teach you how to play. are that are good, bad say interrupt me when you have a question. Other kids have a lot of specific questions about why competition it's it's problem solving at a very high level And then on top of that, probably wouldn't understand unless maybe they talked to someone like you. In Counter-Strike, there's all these little things that I know that the outside has no
1:58:21 I know that's what he's doing. Like fighting, I'm sure that's what they work off of, right? And I'm like, he's going to spin. It's just a really effective technique. And it's not a conscious thought, right? they've seen this game so many times. he uh is his something to do with marcelo Garcia. I believe he's a black belt was based on real life. playing multiple video games or multiple multiple chess games that was in the movie right and
2:01:20 and a pawn can only do this, but he's got the whole map set up in his head. He's seen it. a pass. Okay, that's why the defender is how he's able to kind of Kind of hard to call him a pussy. and slows their volume output considerably by him dictating how they move. getting. So his mind is like, he's got all these I'm just saying that's what they immediately go to which is is like, okay, well, we're watching a fight.
2:03:57 It is kind of weird that he can't read. He probably can count but can't write. he lost a very controversial decision to a guy who's like in destitute poverty now. It's really interesting. They had an article about the last guy to beat Floyd Mayweather. China? There's lessons to be learned even in the shittiest human beings you can look at what they're successful at and even in the shittiest human beings
2:06:18 before i was 17 i was a black belt so i mean it sounds like you obviously made a big sacrifice say like i sacrificed but it wasn't like i had all these friends that i couldn't hang out with was like going from one community to another go constantly moving no friends But then the big thing was once I started doing it, it just became my whole life. with video games. Because once I started
2:08:44 really, really good at something are super unbalanced. Because you have to, in order to achieve a super high level of something, lately i've been i just kicked someone in the the face I'm a double black belt broads Good at video games. They want to kind of have their wall up right away like who's this kid like oh, he's really good so that when they do show up at the event, you like pay attention to them versus the other.
2:11:31 You're just on the computer. I'm always just like I have to look away it for whatever reason just immediately kills any attractive quality that she might have. a high-level professional woman, and fall apart because they're nervous to play a woman. Even if I win, I'm expected in the game. But yeah, I'm sure And someone who would play, like, really good would fall apart in front of her.
2:14:07 And if you don't win, your self-worth, like, you devalue who you are. It's all like, it's the reason why men are such assholes. you ping pong fuck fuck damn yeah ping pong's intense ping pong's very intense i'm not interested You know, it's like. ...was how, like, it doesn't... or play me in this game on Xbox. I'm like, I don't fucking play I could probably in Counter Strike
2:16:48 I was just like running around killing everyone because they're so limited with their range of motion Yeah, how much more control is it Yeah, but nobody plays them. You have to use those things. Let the casual guys play on their Xbox and PlayStation. I don't remember what the fucking name was. to shooting with my right and moving and aiming with my left that'd be a mind fuck for me i know
2:19:44 like to grip the mouse weird and the sensor they on the mouse that as pro gamers like like to grip But they had a weird shape that they had created yeah but those this is not um none of these are the thing that i was talking about but this is just for one, my left hand only. It's Like the World of Warcraft people are casual gamers. It became the shit and you started see that trend where everybody was slowly drifting off to that
2:22:11 I don't know. yeah you don't always but you can kind of tell based off like player numbers right like they're not going to release a new version when the next one comes out have fun well with counter-strike they constantly release a game. They make money. unfortunately, the game kind of plateaued play StarCraft. Like, there's not many other shooter
2:24:32 Mad Frog, Ice Frog or something. People who can't go pro in League of Legends today, I'd be like, what in the actual friendly. This is it here so so it's it It's free to play. That's what CSGO has now, microtransactions. or your rocket gun. you're going to see some return. So that guy with the green health bar next to him, he's the main one, So they call him like a tank. He's really strong with his defense some are better at attacking
2:27:22 Do you think this looks, oh, you're talking about this looks badass? Let's just, just for, just for perspective. Right in the middle right there. He's got an AK-47. So it's good. Yeah. But this is so much more fun to look at. it's normally pretty drawn out. You can't do any weird shit. You can prone in some games. play your final matches, like League of Legends does? Yeah yeah like korea yeah the biggest one i was at recently
2:29:55 So there's like 10 projectors and then one giant projector for the commentators. Wow, this is a color a play-by-play Let's show the gamers behind the scenes that shit just isn't what is necessary for this world I'm just saying, I think that's, think it's going to keep growing and i and i think you're not going to see these No. What do you think? said exponential growth the technology is insane we might just have one chip we might not need a
2:32:18 I'll show you. Cool graphics what if you could explore new dimensions new worlds? Oh, so you're wearing some crazy vest. It's like little laser tag things will be different mental effects. Oh This is amazing. various games that you can play. CGI on top of it. That's, I guess, concerned with the sport, Next summer. you can share these incredible experiences with family and friends.
2:35:52 things and it becomes about athletics. mean who knows what what this is gonna be or whether this is gonna catch on but i think like Well, we know we did figure that out How do we know we're not already in it? everything we could say about esports today. So C9 nothing with a zero. And C9 nothing is your handle online. Brian Redband, you got anything going on to tell the people about?
2:38:15 very illuminating this is a world that i i completely was unaware i'm where i was peripherally That's tomorrow. Tom Segura,