Joe Rogan Experience #665 — Neal Brennan Transcript

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0:00 We're live. Neil Brennan in the middle of tweeting. What are you doing? Huh? Like, it sounds like that goddamn commercial. I'll never be able to separate the two now. Jesus. Ugh. Mm-hmm. They keep making those Flo They cast him in a lot of shit. I just haven't watched it. writers sometimes like if you see like like especially writers that are writing for someone

2:26 They just stored them all like squirrels. That Rock is basically saying, like, hey, I'm funnier than you. I got to get another MMA fighter. I know you don't. Like, there's other strong people around. Which is fine. Well, you just need a giant mound of shit to chop away at, That's all he spends his money on. theater level um it's basically all your audiences are henpecked.

5:23 Yeah, well, I do a lot of sets during the day, Yeah, it's the hardest room in the world. They're fucking right there. ever it's got the rep and having done it It's like the easiest club easiest. Yeah. Yeah But it's essentially the oldest comedy club on earth. in an interview like when he does Some stuff will work at the Improv. Where does it go? Well, first of all, let me just say this.

8:34 Drunky no crowd control at all. They have real crowd control now. Yeah, they'll kick people out of their retarded They're not going to, yeah. We're not having a conversation. It's a fucking show. Yeah, he keeps going yeah but katie perry concert if you go and sit there and sing along with her it's probably 10 phones up taking photos of you yeah or taking

11:01 like if you're past about like one of those electronic dog collars you know those things down this and that and because she put so much effort into fighting the fact that her house was down, way one of those glasses that has the lens it's all I can think about now, is this I do periscope things, but no, not the show. Just go to mine and retweet it if you need to.

12:52 I know for a cell phone company and you're addicted to cell phone snake is interesting eating the tail Is it haunting you right now? when you go to Drake's house, when girls come over, he makes everyone turn their cell phones in. So he makes them put it in a bucket or something? I don't know the specifics of picture. Of course. Yeah. And he's just like, no, you can't do it. So he makes them like put it in a bucket or something?

13:53 Why is a table in the vault? No, no phones. I've heard things where you can't even be in the bedroom with the person until you've well, I was, like, thinking we were going to make out, Yeah. sue this motherfucker for a hundred million dollars. Michael Jordan probably gets sued every day. that he had sued, like sued dozens and dozens of people. Yeah, it's like they're known in the music industry, they will sue you.

17:18 Like, how the fuck did they not know that people are going to see that? That Dylan stole. Yeah. Really? No, that's the same song. yeah i i was surprised they won to be honest with you because yeah i was surprised i went because I mean, yeah. No. As a 10-year-old, I was like, I don't like that guy. Yes. and it was like yeah that's exactly what every episode was and i hated it just as a kid i'm like

21:17 Really? he, Bill Cosby goes, and was, and he's a if they're the predator you're just like fucking red like you're just the warm. You're just like a if they're the predator. You're just like fucking red mmm Like when he's on the show, The idea that, I've never heard of a famous person like, oh yeah, so my shit now is, I got to the drug bitches and rape them when they're asleep level.

24:38 had sexual feelings for like 10 and 12 year old boys hadn't acted on it. And it's like, what do I do? Like in some ways it's like, Yeah he offered her a quaalude and didn't have a lot of rights not you're not three fifths but you're not five fifths either and you know the argument is well the idea of like you're gonna sign a contract someone based on romance yeah like you know i

28:04 You couldn't you couldn't get insurance rights all that stuff no look These guys that are running for Republican office, it's still happening today. Thank you fucking dumbasses You're dealing with multiple translations of a book that was bullshit. A fake book from 2,000 years ago, yeah. Who the fuck speaks ancient Hebrew? And numerical values are actually important when you're saying a sentence.

30:25 No, man. We're fucking around. Sometimes people don't to. Exactly. Are you mad at me? Like, no, man, we're fucking around. It was like those sentence had numbers to it. tell us again? Don't you understand How about what I didn't say you have to eat babies? Yeah that are the color of orange And I'm like, why would I ever be so cocky as to think that I have the whole framework of the universe spelled out?

32:50 And the idea that it's not, Like, what purpose does it serve? And why like to have the newest, greatest shit, the biggest, coolest thing, the fastest thing, And all of it seems to be this constant state of either improvement or death. rights and gay rights and being progressive, I really contemplate this a lot. I think about this It's created by whatever the fuck fuels a human being.

35:47 You know, you have them if you're living in the jungle you have them if you live in the city yeah I mean people just have this weird what is real, but that's not even what's real. That's what's real right now that you can experience. Yeah. You know, I've, I've, I i've had a couple examples if you can well um things that knew everything that i've ever done everything

37:39 And then it changes and looks like something else and it changes. that just that you go it's that you get tied up in the momentum of those bad It's this very freakyaky fucking bizarre thing to have Like the amount of parasites and the amount of different bacteria. Yeah. How? How did you guys find this out? Yeah. What are they trying to figure? Like, if you had a bowling ball full of this stuff, it would be heavier than the world.

41:40 is how long it took me to get used to it though I'm like oh good there's a Is this it? I thought it's the best part of this ad. You got to see this new RX, though. All of it's pretty fucking badass, though. Oh, I had the RX 400. It's so floaty. But the fact the bigger thing that he did was he he like he basically gave up all his patents Because you can't get, the thing that I didn't realize about solar is you can't get it at night.

44:18 You got to go in the battery room, see what's going on. wall yeah, yeah. Pretty fucking sweet. The Volt takes both, right? Do you, when you put it up with gas, does it charge the battery? Why? elon musk yeah but even then it's probably, although no, if you have the solar. They got to be getting better with like overcast shit. Because the DWP has a fucking monopoly. Are you worried about the water? Yes? Yeah me too. How could you not be yeah?

47:17 in the first place as a Hollywood, It's like, dude, maybe we just stay near the Colorado River. It wasn't that cloudy. You're probably dead right. Someone is thinking ahead. They're more fun. worried about looks and more i think they're just worried about i think they're just more they It's like, well, we got the bombs. We just have to stop giving it to them

50:14 Yeah, precisely. are people that were so anti-robot that they beat them up. Member of any bands of English workers who destroyed machinery, especially in cotton You ever hear Stanhope's bit about like, shouldn't where money to stay alive is if you work. you know what i mean like when the man worked like that's a huge tenant well don't you think So let's make it a religious ethic.

52:44 Is it even possible to have, would that be possible to have a hundred percent unemployment? They got robots, though. I think it's just an interest. someone has to service the super robot. Because you get robots that fix robots. that you kept a steady supply of them and kept them educated because if you didn't and Like not realizing they're dumb because they buy a lot of smart things that other people figured out

55:36 a fire it would be based on shit i saw on survivor i swear to god i think i could start a fire if i I don't know when to, like, go over to the thing. and the piece like clamps down on the top of the stick And he's pushing, like, dry tinder in there. If it's not online, there should be fire. This guy's... Wow Yeah, his teeth are fucked more flammable isn't that amazing that's awesome this is how this motherfucker makes a fire and

58:34 You know what else can do that? Do a tight seven. but yelling out 818 till I die yeah and the place just went yeah yeah great they I want to do something where we do it in conjunction with the Comedy Store Oh, it's the you know Do you know what I mean? But there used to be a bunch of guys who every night would pretend, look at this guy. But it's really an act.

1:00:58 How dare they? I will tell them the whole narrative. So I'd taken 5-HTP. When does it slip in? Just didn't happen. First of all, you're the co-creator of The Spell Show, which is, in my opinion, the greatest sketch comedy the world's ever known. But there was never, it never felt like, my brain would like talk me out of it. even though your writing is really great,

1:03:10 a script in like 1999 and i was um on the phone with an agent who was saying that two studios when like He's so fucking gacked off of the crowd. it enjoy it i wouldn't enjoy it i wouldn't not enjoy it but it was flat it was flat it was like because I understand now when it stopped working when i and or when i would try to go off it my i would get like a

1:06:45 I've switched a bunch because all the ones I tried Yeah, 100%. But that's how it feels because you can't do it but there always is some side effect. Um, uh, Yeah. Yeah. Just like, oh, I don't give a shit. They know that they work. if i didn't take the drug it would be uh i don't know guess it would, my brain would collect it super quick. so my dick was like in a coma and I was throwing up like pretty regularly,

1:10:40 I mean, you're trying to help it, basically. Yeah, they don't. like serotonin and all that stuff, colds and I started taking probiotics and I haven't got one dude I harm I That's all it is. Yeah. I don't get sick anymore. your immune system takes a fucking beat. Even in first class, Joe? Everybody's just touching each other. You're sitting there there and you know that your arm's gonna touch the

1:13:35 And I've had that happen to friends. was supposed to get up uh I had reversed so instead of uh thinking that uh I was supposed to get up at Well, it was just such a boneheaded move. You know? Yeah, deeper and deeper into those boxes. Yeah so so I was like I'm so sick of this so I just started looking up other shit to Yeah. That are doing this? And there's another one called TMS, which is...

1:17:04 They were cooking your brain too much And I did it last week and the week before. And then I was in the trip that you were talking about thing to fucking for 45 minutes. and whatever. an hour. So I was like, I can't do shit right now. Like I can't, I could barely stand. So the first day was rough. And, uh, and that night I still felt shitty that night. I was like,

1:19:54 my head felt heavy It felt amazing when I did it. Yeah. it again that Wednesday They add it up. a couple weeks was like i just felt like shit i just felt like i had the flu but not coughing or Yeah, you just do. I feel like, I don't feel nauseous. Yeah. yeah it's like you'll be a little cloudy huh some people it usually lasts like three weeks You said two?

1:23:32 uh i guess like i had a high fever you know that feeling just like i can't do shit I could throw up. Yeah. Well, I ran into you at the store, and you told me that you did the last treatment that day. time was probably four or five minutes um yeah and he was upping the dose, I think. so I couldn't, like, get an objective sense of how you seemed. the ssris and the uh ketamine but i on the friday or saturday i fucking murdered in the main room

1:26:40 two years like it wasn't like right i'm not like you where i can take a couple months and just come Okay, so you do it the No, I said that like I'm from Dijon. ayahuasca. No, no, I said that like I'm from the jungle. There's people that take mushrooms, and they also are taking SSRIs, and I've heard that I know for a fact, Ari did ask his doctor and told him, and apparently the type of medication

1:28:27 Yeah. There you go. And there's a panel. I'm not going to change any minds. In an office park. though all visuals all visuals yeah crazy the way mckenna described ketamine i've never done I mean, I guess... Well, you did it IV. So when you're taking mushrooms, you're not just experiencing the mushroom. And he felt like when he took ketamine that he was in a giant office building that was empty.

1:31:32 He said it was just devoid for lack of a better example, there's the, I was aware of every It was more of a disco floor, actually, of white. Shapes and feelings. So, like, what kind of stuff was going through your head bit more people um My eyes are closed. into my, like... Don't you get that when you're on weed, it was like it was gonna be like the san andreas and and uh the rock would not save well what they

1:35:47 huh like i was seeing the machinations i was feel it but i'd also like see the Because I felt better own jokes more Is there an increase every time you do it, two through six? Because I'd feel it would take me longer to get in the trip. and had a good set he said it could be and another doctor told me that more serotonin So yeah, it's like going Like sometimes I force myself to get up early in the morning just to sit down and write

1:39:17 And then there's like this is like initial wake-up yeah like paul knew what he was doing and they would write the silliest shit yeah because they Right. Getting up is the hard part. Forcing yourself to get up out of the bed. Yeah, she'd be so mad at you I don't like it Yeah It's not making me feel better. depleted amount of serotonin. for people. They don't have a measurement for it.

1:42:42 Where you're taking 5-HTP and an SSRI, and it gives you too much serotonin. I don't think so. Well, one of the things that you brought up was Carl Hart, Dr. Carl Hart, and there's So I think that must have been like traumatic. Yeah, it was shitty. with. the mother as she's dealing with high cortisol levels, I could be making that up, but it sounds right.

1:45:34 physically Like they know about like dendrites and fucking and nerve endings, all that shit. you get the sun in your bedroom yeah you don't sleep with curtains closed no so when the sun Like, let's figure it out. don't just tap into a mountain and go oh look it's all gold like no it's gold mixed in with rock and And as I was working it out, I was out last night for the first time ever I died ice house and as I was working I was like, oh finally I know cuz I didn't know like before I was like is there something in this yeah

1:48:30 I still said it. Yeah. Because it was like, it's none of your business. And I'm like, dude, you gotta fucking pitch them. like you coming up with a tagline out of nowhere and go well i'll take it i still want credit for I'm like glad that I came up with it. they click together and they have a bridge and then they become awesome like i know where i'm

1:51:39 But by the way they were like it's 3,500 bucks I was like I'll give you... name That's 100% true. I go I can't believe the FDA approved that. What about a guy like me? I don't think it'll fuck you up any more than DMT or ayahuasca or anything. I've only done DMT. Molecule. Yeah, they made a documentary, right? interviewed talking about the drug. which is like 50, you smoke it rather, which is like 15 minutes. So the ayahuasca, what they've

1:54:57 Your neurotransmitter levels would go through the fucking roof every time you eat vegetables. Yeah. I like my dog more. Close personal connection. Yeah, with someone. With someone. Yeah. With a close personal connection. That's what he said. Close personal connection. I'm on the streets. kettlebells and treadmill, Yeah. Why receive shit like that questioning your will say listen he's just because he's a accountant talking shit like that? Questioning your will. Say, listen, bitch. Sign checks, you fuck.

1:58:01 investment you need a new accountant he sounds like a a negative Nancy He is what a dick. Yeah, so if I had an accountant like that, I'd be like listen fuck face noticeable change when you have a good workout? Afterward just because I'm out of shape basically But now that I'm back on it I'm hoping I've never had a runner's high You know what I mean to do that shit. And I haven't been home and shit. So, um, so,

1:59:09 I never had a runner's high. I think it's, He ran 106 miles in 24 hours. I like that his body hulked out afterward. Fucking psycho. but the climbing up was the most shocking like how tired you get yeah like i'm in shape i work So he does it. found when we did the double-blind placebo studies on at the Boston Center Which again, just a weird thing that you don't think about

2:02:28 Ever. You were always cool. And I'm like literally staring at the picture, I know there's something better. you know, It's like, that's i've gone to therapy fucking 15 years ari said mushrooms helped him a lot yeah there's a lot There's a thing in South You can see it in his You maybe might be beach do punch up on that All those ads on YouTube I'm a fucking Chevy guy.

2:05:49 Because they trick you into, because it's not about the product. Yeah, but it's really two years. Yeah, but and then it was just homeless guys. I don't know. It's interesting. shaky for a while. Well there are some that like They hung in there, Yeah, well new balance some of them are just for runners like some are just like Yeah. it's got the bibs the first one of the bubble remember when it used to be

2:08:31 Doc Martens, there was a big part of the depressed punk rocker rebellion. And they're not good-looking they started like skinheads made them popular Yeah. Have people had an issue like this with ketamine? That's the withdrawal, Yeah, no like doing some shit off to the side. That's what I mean. It's like going backstage. You're right but what you're seeing is like the roots of where your behavior is coming from.

2:11:03 Oh, Um, and some of the times it was just like white blah, you know, just like and Whoa. A nurse? Is she hot? She's super fucking hot. there was a nurse Watching you the whole time A nurse? Yeah She just watches you me while i'm under so i'd say this is me under yeah a couple times got her own artistic direction The not knowing why it's effective is very strange.

2:13:32 or they're smoking it. Yeah. I can't imagine getting addicted to it because it's pretty. This is like early 2000s, With ketamine, but he had a real ketamine problem. eyeballs into a toad from the No, there was Nightcrawler and there was another guy that was like a toad. I would like to do it as little... That's the frog. Yeah. Because the hangover's not.

2:16:31 And I couldn't breathe. well what if i hadn't asked for that shit like i could have it was dangerous um so you had swallowed I almost want to get it again. I still can't really breathe out of one of my nostrils. He knows what to do with them. Does it grow back? How long ago was it? Yeah. They say that there's a large percentage of people that deal with block septums that it's super common

2:19:07 fighters get cauliflower ear? Yeah. Gotta get an operation. It's just blood that becomes calcified. Like somersaults fucking laying on your side. Yeah. Yeah. God damn tricks. recommend this to other people do you recommend yeah i mean i it's i wouldn't you know recommending And, uh, he. Well, you know, kudos to you for keeping, keep searching. And I was on a show the other night, by the way.

2:22:55 shoot magnets fuck your life up. they use that transcranial stimulation for a lot of different shit right there was there was uh yeah like i'm in the zone now yeah so uh it's amazing yeah i love this i love that there's so but I sympathize with it, of them do you think had a lot to do with it success had a lot to do with it or he's like all that shit.

2:25:48 Are you alright? they realized they couldn't get out of a box they just stopped trying but then there were certain it's so a normal part of like really weak thinking yeah but having said that Depressions like a strength thing. It's like his recall was fucking amazing like he's over. He was just appreciative and shit like that. Go out and hug some folks, you know?

2:29:12 The way he talks. But I'll take an ego with pipes like that. What if you were paparazzi? Would you hold a grudge? Yeah? And he's like, really? Yeah. Yeah. And that's one of the reasons why he was the best. on late night with David Letterman then he became one on the new one too but so It just never occurred to him Yeah, I'm happy for myself. Like, don't just go, I can't do it.

2:32:20 I appreciate you coming on. You got a website? We'll be back uh with podcast number