Joe Rogan Experience #681 — Gad Saad Transcript

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0:00 Da-da-da, da-da-da. Exactly. law students were asking fellow professors at Harvard not to teach rape law. And in one case, even use the word violate as in that violates the law, lest it cause distress. the way one of the authors of that article is a good friend of mine who is the director of FIRE. I can't remember the name of the acronym, what the acronym stands for. But he basically goes around, his organization goes around trying to protect freedom of speech, First Amendment at campuses precisely because of the unbelievable chilling effect of these types of lunacy movements.

3:07 whether they identified it or whether they actually had Democratic affiliation or Republican. of aggression so they've altered the spelling to wait min oh no that's not real you see i oh no It's not a very good thing to have almost all of the professors that you will ever come across be of one particular persuasion. What kind of fiscal policy should you have? what kind of fiscal policy should you have what type of foreign policy should you have this is

5:49 fucked up and they do a lot of drugs and they're just out of control and nuts. I think in academia you have a similar sort of a situation triggered people and it's an infinite loop of victimology so this guy had to you guys all have big dicks, right? Allegedly. Yes, you should see race. Right. That's a microaggression. You should see race. Yes, you should see race.

7:58 Well, because you're usurping all of the Americas to imply that it's only the United States of America. Here's another microaggression. Candidate which would in turn get you the best person for the job, which is a microaggression of like the 60s and the 70s and the 80s. Black Lives Matter. I mean, everybody agrees. diverse. A guy who marched with So even though many of those battles have passed them by, they've been won.

10:45 And they have to engage in this kind of behavior. Like, black lives matter, you fucking piece of shit. there's a fucking fire You can't say that. And even though I agree with a lot of what they support, I think they suck. If you think otherwise, you must be an asshole, and I will shut you down. And so they really don't have this capacity, this critical capacity to engage in reasoned dialogue.

14:07 Yes. that got drunk and one, they're a boy and a girl. They texted each other and the boy and the girl Can you vote at 18? I mean, if you were responsible for being under the influence when you're driving, You're talking about two human beings that are adults that got drunk, but the male is the rapist. Do you hereby consent? Therefore, Barry White is a genocidal rapist.

17:03 I got like a hundred stop people from breathing through the mic tweets. Jake and Josie hooked up. I remember this. well the reality of being a male is if an attractive woman comes to Jamie... Wow, that's a reference from the 19th. this guy is the Ron Jeremy saying? Well, the whole thing about Ron Jeremy was Ron Jeremy existed in an era where the guys were supposed to be gross

19:24 Nowadays, the men are equally unattainable as well. I think a man who does that has a bit more freedom to move around. You see that every second store is a strip bar. Exactly. I'm joking, Saskatchewan. You know, people, I guess they need hope in those spots that are kind of— By the way, I owe you a copy of one of my books signed. I can't get him anything.

22:42 I'm not suggesting it for you or for anybody. but for a lot of people in these bad rural type situations, seems to attract a lot of churches. No, but as a function of their income status, their socioeconomic status. Yeah. And, of course, I argue that the greatest peddler of hope is, of course, religion. I'm very jovial. who's an evolutionary biologist,

25:51 groups that are religious actually out-survive those that are not, using an argument of at the individual, at the gene level. our belief in god and the lord and whether or not and then she goes whether or not it's real who's gone. Ariel Helwani? not Ariel. I mean, you don't get feedback from the environment that says change course of action. All those things are what makes people improve.

29:49 There's actually a psychological trait that maps onto what we're talking about. versus external locus of control as you attribute it to environmental factors. I mean, my turn will come. And it's sort of their, that's how they get through this life. illusion right it's giving they give you a card you could take a card when you play roulette you How rude. in psychology and they play on it and then the idiots succumb to it how rude

32:39 And I'll actually mention who it is. Can I call you back? But it isn't. 49 digits? You're a fool. And she's always like, I knew that number was going to come up. of it she would like help run the numbers nice yeah she uh i don't know what her function was but she was a part of it to the You know, we couldn't find her. we're talking about these issues through uh in the middle east we do it with uh tea leaves well

36:28 So then she would start, in your future. My wife and I Yeah. i am i am using tricks and i won't tell you what the tricks are but i will tell you right now i am I think there's one. Well, this idea that someone can actually read into your past though he told me what he was doing we we had some people in the audience we said a small audience Imagine that.

39:54 psychic, but listen to my sister come back. She would tell me all this stuff, you know, vague yeah that you could infuse your life into any one of these sort of vague And he said, if I guess your birthday, will you listen to me? Yeah. this guy do that he goes there's there's techniques you can do that how the fuck are you doing it man There's 365 days in a year.

42:12 likely are two people in a because it is so counterintuitive yeah there was a show where someone did that there. And he nailed it in like an hour. Your Bostonian accent came out there, huh? God. Like, one of the cool things about Penn and Teller, if you ever go to watch them, is that they'll tell you it's bullshit while they're doing it. Yeah, and that's what was really cool about the Banachek character,

44:06 It's just a foul, disgusting human being. poor and there was this guy in the neighborhood who needed a place to live and he would pay them I think it's Emily Rosa. one of my books and basically as a grade four or five a science project she wanted to explore touch therapy gee are you familiar with what that is so touch therapy is one of those you know

46:06 ordinarily simple experiment to test their abilities. And so what basically she did is she would put out her hand, and then they had to determine whether it's her right hand. In other that's out is on the right or left. So imagine what an elegant experiment that is. And it was And that if you talk to a psychic but you don't believe in them, your negative energy interferes with their gift.

48:03 Go ahead. You know, I have a little piece of hocus pocus that I Don't not necessarily believe but I entertain it from time to time and that is synchronicity I turn on the television. With dual apologies? The three other events, your brain never codes because they're non-events. Therefore, you end up I'm not buying your fucking bullshit at all, mister.

50:54 I hear you. Yes. A lot of people believe that, right? Is he serious? all these virtual reality programs they're developing that are they're recording these incredible scenarios where you uh apparently you they put cameras all over a and my friend Duncan put it on tried it out at one of these developer looks like there's a guy in front of you playing the piano, but nothing's happening. The idea being

54:47 And if that is true, how do we not know that we haven't already been in it? Matrix seemed like a total horseshit just when it came out. But now this is going back to, not to date myself. So at the time when I was in school, You see what I'm saying? is many generations ahead of that. So incredible stuff. And 30 years today is almost an eternity when it comes to technology.

58:09 If I had to guess, I'd bet it's less than that. I would say it's probably around 3% or something like that, less than 10% for sure. you instead of why oh you you're a lazy bitch. Just write Y-O-U, right? It's a percentage of people that don't use smartphones. They're fucking animals. Birth order? He's a historian of science and a huge Darwin supporter. He wrote a book in 1996, highly recommended, called Born to Rebel, where he looked at the 28

1:00:47 later borns were much more likely to be the ones to espouse the radical scientific innovations. This forces later-borns to be more out-of-the-box thinkers, to be more malleable, to be less rigid, to be less conforming. exactly replicated Soloway's findings. Firstborns were much more conforming. Laterborns were much They tell you what mom said I don't do that a lot of times.

1:03:24 you could argue that Yeah, I think it's fascinating when you look at what causes someone to be innovative and what causes someone. Maybe like a random smack on the head once in a while just to keep it right. about kids that list right out of the vagina are just a totally different person like from day one I think I need to do that. Have you ever talked to someone

1:05:49 not no apparently there are people that are absolutely consumed by the uber Because there are a lot of people that believe that Leos have a very distinct personality Libras are extremely good looking, very charismatic, very brilliant. Black sheep. Oh, my God. Yes. But what are the actual numbers? since the burka liberates women from the male gaze and the bikini draws the male

1:08:57 That's a bunch of convenient bullshit by guys who have shitty bodies And they literally go running up to them to try to talk to them. So you're absolutely right that women are looking. For example, they like tight buttocks because that sends an important signal. And that's where the male gaze comes in. But women don't feel comfortable going into those environments the way men feel comfortable.

1:11:27 Exactly. And you see them read. If you want to understand male sexuality, then you do a content analysis of pornography. Sometimes he's like half a chick, like he's got long hair. It's a bit artistic. What was all that about? Well, those books sold fucking millions of copies. I don't know any of those anyway but carry on the guy was supposed to be like

1:14:43 It's one of the dumbest fucking books of all time. Actually, I did watch one of them. pedophilia right and that really not just pedophilia but like what the fuck is wrong with It's the dumbest fucking book of all time. I'm not slut-shaming, which is, by the way, another trigger. Yes, yes I'm strongly against the patriarchy. Are you gonna get in trouble for this podcast?

1:16:34 How do you say her name? article and by a tweet that she sent file filed a chapter 9 complaint against I mean, I'm not a constitutional lawyer. You shouldn't even say testicular fortitude that are willing to i mean in academia you shouldn't even say testicular what about your women ym counterparts compatriots and how it's suppressed and it's not free speech. You are free to think as they do.

1:19:47 Islamophobia, Zionist, asshole. She wrote to me saying, you know, don't you think that, you know, it's bad of you to be sort of the guy who walks around not caring, saying it as it is, because that's my personality. spot when it comes to certain issues where they fall really on the wrong side of the issue. So a Well, I think what they're doing is they're subscribing to the current trend of discourse.

1:22:39 Yes. It represents a lot of people that aren't Jewish. But when you want to appear to be smart, you say anti-Semitic. Like mathematically, I'm basically retarded. friend would say yeah overblown and blown out of proportion to the extreme Surfing social brownie points going back to the to the anti-jewish stuff grew up in lebanon uh now you might say oh but lebanon was such a progressive tolerant wonderful

1:26:15 East, was the most progressive one. So I grew up sort of with a dark secret. Not the pagans, not the polytheists, not the Hindus, not the Buddhists, not the atheists. early seventies, he had won several Lebanese championships. And then one day he was visited Thank you. He's just trying to make those other folks look bad. let's move on um but this uh it disturbed me that this video wasn't this

1:29:55 and it's not pretty what happens. They would draw these cartoons of Muhammad, and all the cartoonists were killed by gunmen, Muslim gunmen. Right. you about my personal history in Lebanon. Do you want to hear some more stuff? Sure, please. I'd on TV, in political speeches, in dramas, in soap operas? It's everywhere. It's endemic to every single dna of those societies uh and so that's why you have

1:32:47 I'm almost certain. soit belle et tais-toi, which means be pretty and sit quietly, right? There was a, I don't know if you, do you know at all Egyptian politics from say the 70s? There was a, Abdel Nasser was a famous pan-Arabist who brought together the Arab world. He was an with this politician passing away in Egypt? That's just part of how things were.

1:35:07 To some extent, now we're seeing it also in Nigeria. Maybe 15,000 at most, 15,000, 20,000 out of a population of about maybe 3 million at the zenith. became untenable for Jews to be there. We were part of the last wave of remaining Jews because we were very entrenched within Lebanese society. Well, that ID card has your religion on it. And I'm not trying to be relativist here.

1:37:46 that's where Iraq is Africa's chaos you go Jesus They have not evolved. You know, coalitional thinking is a, you know, endemic part of human psychology, I'll be back in a few minutes. to now assort along that cue, right? of this experiment but it certainly means that the narrative, the religious narrative, that's another issue that I believe it was Michael Shermer who wrote an article

1:41:01 reformed, right? when uh in reality you doing that becomes a form of apostasy sacrilegious right so that's the moved, right? They all moved out of the Middle East. Listen, I've engaged people in various forms where we start chatting, and then I'll quote something from, say, do you know who Yusuf al-Qaradawi is? the so-called caliph of ISIS then how can we have an open and honest discourse?

1:44:00 I can include myself in this group, who are open, who are honest, who are reasonable, Who is the writer? Stabbing people, right? Russell Brand thinks that? He basically was arguing that he came up with every single possible cause that you could think of other than religious fervor Greedy, rampant capitalism. So how could we have an honest discourse when this is the kind of nonsense that you keep hearing?

1:47:00 Right. Right. But once you start calling it anything, whether you call it Islam or just fill in the blank, Right, I mean, so this narrative Yes. If that's not preposterous, you tell me what the fuck is. In terms of the revelations? Right. What year was Galileo prosecuted? 15 where, you know, if you lay with another man, It seems to be legal in this game to, you can shit all over Christians.

1:51:39 people and you don't mess with that I but a lot of Baptists are black true it's soulful and then once you've done that boy you have opened up the floodgates and they know i was being elitist you know he's doing a lot of social good yes some of his stuff is quackery And then I came across his political rants and I no longer thought he was such a cool

1:54:08 Right. That's the What happened to that blissful union? By the way, she was very religious. probably get along with him great if I sat down and But I think that when you get caught up in that world, there are some very clear sort well, we can solve that problem easily. Lebanon exactly which gives you more authenticity whereas Sam is viewed as some white guy who's

1:57:00 Who's the fourth horseman? Yeah, he's a philosopher at some school in Boston, actually. Exactly. And now people who want to come into the discussion have to really think hard whether they want to be exposed to this kind of blowback. And so you get self-censorship. Right. Yes. I mean, I've had and I don't think I've shared this story ever again. So double happy birthday so I've had my wife so I open up my laptop and I start typing something and she'll come around nervously looking at what I'm typing I say what what why are

1:58:15 the intuition, she might be right. Let me engage in self-censorship. And every time that someone who otherwise would be bedrock of all our freedoms is freedom of speech they lost their lives there's one guy, Ezra Levant in Canada, It's astonishing. Oh, I couldn't imagine. There should be? they think about publishing these things, and they just back off.

2:01:09 the pragmatism but but we all have to weigh in in some form or another yeah they failed they And I think that there's a lot of folks that do not want to die like that, and they also don't want to be confused with those folks that were drawing these cartoons. You're talking about a fear of an ideology that is so rigid they'll kill you for a cartoon.

2:03:23 openly about a religion. Well, that that itself is racist. Right. I mean, yes. Right. He studies evolution. this planet i mean we're talking about a billion people right 1? 1.6. 1.6? 1.6. That's a large redress some of this grand And the only way to get to him is through psychedelic drugs? I've never smoked a single cigarette in my life. Very proud of my Samsonian hair.

2:06:23 But you still drink occasionally, right? Come on. You throw them back. Club Med, huh? But there are there are psychedelic drugs that are most likely the root of all religious experiences. It's more like love, Just be nice to each other. Don't deceive anyone else. This is what you get out of it. You're going to get death threats from Jewish extremists now.

2:10:11 religious rituals of various And also, I think the only version in Aramaic, it was found in these clay pots in Qumran And so he wrote a book called The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross. We need more. when it rained, there was God coming on the world. and now they're there. Right. In reptiles, it actually has a retina and a lens. idea of that that is what this was probably all about because ayahuasca has been they believe

2:14:45 Are you familiar with this? But apparently, so they basically have to they they sedate these Those are the myths. But he said when it was over, it was really weird. I can't remember what it was. So this was a study done a few years ago by some colleagues of mine where they wanted to look at the content of porno movies. polygamy just means one with many but

2:17:51 So now here it goes. So he did a content analysis where he showed that polyandrous depictions are much more more, which supported the idea of sperm competition. And this is exactly what you get in animal perfect correlation so mountain gorillas little tiny balls little tiny dick very good right they're female promiscuity within that species. minutes later say, yeah, but when it comes to sexual variety, men have a slightly greater

2:21:54 too, because one of the things that's always being touted about is diversity in science But what it should be is, what do they like? So usually in the social sciences or certainly social constructivists, the ones who argue that everything is due to socialization, will use toy preferences as, if you like, the starting point of how gender role socialization

2:23:34 Let's keep going. If you take other species, you take vervet monkeys and rhesus monkeys, their behaviors. Guess what happens to their toy preferences? They become more like little boys. That's right. I mean, I don't speak Swedish, but that's what I hear. And there's a scale that's developed by a gentleman called Hofstede, where he ranks the countries from around the world on this gender score.

2:25:38 And the girls are behaviors manifest themselves. Right, but how do we explain this? Because that morphological feature is actually shaped in utero that it is not due to arbitrary, you know, sexist socialization. Pursuit in 2015 that it's kind of ever been before And if boys like trucks or girls like dolls, it doesn't mean there's anything wrong with either one of them.

2:29:09 How so? Here's the flour. It's an inextricable mix. So I think it comes from the idea that biology is scary some people are more this way, some people are more that way. So there's nothing really deterministic. Also, so just another point, for example, men have a evolved desire to seek status. and that's the only way to gain status. indistinguishable that's a very hopeful message because it basically says that we are infinitely

2:32:36 How dare you? UFC champion. Right. And of the best throughout history and what he I always say no matter how hard you train you could And I wish to engage in modesty, but you might want to check the scores of the Lebanese men just for fun. They were up there, I think. They were up there. where this climate is going to adjust back? Is it going to There's a lot of people out there that aren't represented

2:35:22 that are scaring the fuck out of teachers. We will let you have the mic. And they're going, I want to be that when I get older. precisely because I've seen the reach that you have just in terms of how people have responded to my work, right? I mean, that's not really what a job of a professor is. I mean, that's part of the job. We have to create Exactly.

2:38:14 I only wish that more academics would actually have the courage to start coming on these and you could have you can infer all sorts of different ways that this person's trying to I had a dispute with this journalist and we were talking about something. I go, that's fucking insane. i said please don't next day you know exactly what he wanted to of course right uh but you just

2:40:36 this a bit of cloudiness. I think you're going to be able to know a lot more about what someone's trying to portray just in the next decade or so than we've ever known in the past. And also the transparency that you have. I'm like, why did you do that? I go, you're a fucking liar. And I go, I'm not losing it. ridiculous I was trying to upset her right you know but that used to be what

2:43:15 What can he do? We know what you did. But this guy is brilliant. I feel like a kid in a candy store And I don't see why other academics So this woman's YouTube channel, I've never heard of her before, but she's got millions of subscribers. He distorts reality to fit his own agenda. You know, and there's a lot of those guys out there now and they they cover a wide variety of topics too, whether it's sports

2:46:18 He's on Fox all the time and he's a legit journalist for MMA. Do you want to? express yourself. It's a wonderful way to...