Joe Rogan Experience #700 — Dr. Mark Gordon & Andrew Marr Transcript

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0:00 And boom, we're live. Before you take any of Dr. Gordon's advice, I just want you to know, folks, he's scared of shrimp, shellfish, pork, he's never had wild game, and he refuses to eat outside of a very narrow dietary discipline. I had turkey bacon today. But how could you eat turkey bacon and not eat the real bacon bacon? Okay, there's a lot of people who do have a problem with gluten.

1:05 You should look at your stool every morning. predicated on medication and psychotherapy, which does not improve quality of life. So we're going – they're going to know everything across the board about these protocols, why they work, why they're better, how they're cost-efficient, how they're time-efficient, to overtake the system and have them implement these on both sides of the house, so to speak.

3:45 It stops the production of hormones. This leads to deep depression. It leads to some pretty as I focus on a narrow kind of diet, focusing in on just the pituitary, and that's been some of the problem that we've had, is focusing, as I focus on a narrow kind of diet, focusing in on just the pituitary. It destroys more and more neurons. of patients. I used to see them for hormone deficiency and then started going back asking them, those with the hormone deficiency, if they've had any kind of head trauma.

6:44 all the hormone deficiencies. So this kid, and it turned out he was hormone deficient. When we corrected his hormones, he was back Here, take this packet of antidepressants, and you'll get better. when the majority of them are traumatic brain injury. He was around repetitive gunfire. But how come we're not hearing about... They would have cut it off.

11:51 And the medical model right now is right this second you're not sick, let's wait until you get sick before we do something. guys when they come back home? ask of them and put their So to produce a special operations soldier, millions of dollars. on the inside to do that. I feel like the bureaucrats, the people that are in the I was actually, I had to go outside of the military medical system to get alternative treatment.

15:03 I can't remember things driving home. I don't know That was something that some other person, and he introduced me to his protocols. He actually sent me an email, and in the first line he says, I'm interested in what he's doing. explosions for my entire career. You know what I mean? I was only knocked unconscious one time And, you know, here's why.

17:48 because if you have a problem and you can't necessarily attribute that to a major accident or a major injury or a major explosion, that you're weak. Right. They're trying to say that you can't handle the pressure absolutely or the repetitive gunfire that you had, or the breaching that you were doing. How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Roll pop?

19:48 levels instead of being average about 110 or down at six or seven you correct nutritional stress can precipitate high amount of cortisol. If you're fasting, cortisol goes up. it's kind of frustrating to me because it seems like you're making all this sense and you're talking about this this this broad spectrum of Yeah. have no patents on it, that you can walk into a GNC, you can get it from Onnit, you can

23:08 And I got it. You put that picture when we had lunch together They're dummies, too. Correct. The status quo is very clearly we hand everybody this antidepressant. that these doctors are reluctant to go against it or not prescribe it or to step out on a limb? something that's worked, something they worked very diligently at for 21 years to show the science

26:10 It's what science has shown us is a hormonal imbalance. bay lou out of paris france that the brain has the chemistry to take cholesterol and to make it into And that's why I believe, based on reading the literature and my interpretation that's what could be someone up, getting assault charges. in different areas of the body that it's not just your testicles that are doing it?

28:30 Correct. You lose it. And I think I shared with you, NFL did a study where they found that 19 times faster NFL players are 19 times more prone to develop Alzheimer's disease between 30 and 50 years of age. That's incredible. So what we're understanding is our chemistry is all linked, man. you're going to continue to have these mass problems across the board,

30:53 It can fix a lot of things. medications. A pain patch on top of all those pills? Correct. He had surgery on his jaw with and all those hormones in the brain changes how we perceive life. When you're depressed, He'd take out of the patient stem cells, send them to Israel to get them augmented, to increase For 12 years since he had his stroke, he wasn't able to pick up a coffee cup, a coffee mug, and hold it.

34:31 45% had a decrease in their insulin requirement. Yeah, there's an orthopedic buddy of mine, Santoro, There was one by Dr. Alan R. Dunn out of Miami, an orthopedic surgeon, who showed that if you go in with an arthroscopic study. His publication came in Harvard. He patented the protocol. 10 millimeters. That's Public impressions of it? Well the stem cell stuff was, everybody was always worried that people were going to get

37:02 I think there's- on doing any research in stem cells, Yeah, quit killing your single cells. pain P PRP or Except that they don't, Regenicaine is to take care of any of the inflammatory chemistry that's in there through photo deactivation and the prp works very well seen you know and it's something that's more acceptable I'll be in a sling for eight weeks.

39:43 It's kind of crunchy. Yeah, non-weight-bearing bone. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And can the stem cells fix that? I mean, they've sequenced the gene of the flatworm, Well, it seems to me that that that stem cells would be a really good one for people with is that there are so many chemicals in the brain that are trying to foster regeneration of nerves. Like, for instance, UCLA is doing a study on a byproduct of progesterone called allopregnanolone,

43:27 deficiency leads to physical deficiency and death. A recent group of articles showed we're seeing a lot of a type of diabetes called insulin resistant into the office already with this insulin resistance. We use it for our patients with this type 2 diabetes called insulin resistance, and they all reverse. And I didn't know lithium is just a salt. Lithium?

45:51 of their fucking mind i didn't think it was just a salt yeah it's metal was it beneficial dr gordon You're talking about a salt. anastrosol in my practice. What does that mean, aromatase inhibitor? Aromatase. Well, testosterone My back. she was having an issue with kidney failure, and they were going to make her get off of It's a is there another way that people can avoid that?

49:14 in an incredible array of different processes in the body. Studies on the emotional center of the So what we're starting to see is these neuro steroids and neuroactive steroids have influence And this is something that it just seems that a lot of people are just simply not aware Okay, let's go and fill up three and a half tires, and you're going to drive.

51:34 And it's because, and other people are writing the because, is because our system is so complex. You know, toughen up or, you know, stop being so down on yourself. And that's why it was easy for me to say, well, I can speak to my credibility that that's not the case. And now that's compounding a problem and making it even bigger. And that's why we're having all these suicides.

53:38 women were around I was gonna you know you're gonna work up and gotta get ready Well, that fertilization dance. That's why we become pussies as we get older. Right, Dr. Gordon? so we have shearing shearing of the neurons and a traumatic brain injury and We can regenerate neuronal pathways in the brain. just accept it. And I was like, was like well this the last class I was any

56:45 In literature that I used to read in Alzheimer's, I have a lecture on it, So, you know. When that happens, it's very easy for your mind to just atrophy your processes. But it's because it takes more for them to get that juice right they don't get it So what happens is we adapt to not feeling the contrast because there's no contrast. running a you know a marathon well were you able to do that last time no i'm not now i'm in the gym

59:35 almost like getting water in your ear. But the same thing. sense I mean when something is unique in the in the beginning and special and in fact, it was, We did his blood work and his free testosterone was like 14, 13.99. That's what happens to rich people too, right? is we lose focus that you're having right now. We're constantly, no one is ever like, hey, it's pretty good.

1:02:09 It just seems to me that the way you approach life and the philosophy that you have, You need the big picture. You know, my friend Steve Ronell has a really funny way of he talks about things that are really fun when you're doing them and then things that are really fun after they're done. And you'll be laughing about how fucking cold you were and you're camping and you're freezing your dick off.

1:04:01 And you don't appreciate it then. they built something. They worked. They were hungry and developed something or had a world what's the optimum way to get through life? Yeah. the other two daughters that aren't here just a delight and that journey you were talking about Is that like the Holocaust? And it was the people who survived, like 9%, the commonality was everybody had some kind of a meaning, right? Some kind of purpose outside of themselves

1:08:19 life. I found that puts value into you. You know what I mean? think the you know purpose of life is to live a life of purpose when you believe that you have a purpose from anything you want to do, fixing the shed, whatever it is. Because it's self-generated. So you don't need anybody. across the board yeah it's there's really no good manual on how to live life and even if there was

1:11:02 They literally don't have a desire for these other They might not do what Joe Rogan wants to do or Mark Gordon wants to do, that's going to give you security, a job that you don't want to do, enter into the equation. What would you do I have it all the time. It's good. And, you know, but how do you feel about these over 1,108 failures that you had with the bulbs?

1:13:48 DC. Don't get me wrong. That gives me readings about where I was and how I need to self-correct the course I'm at. the problem is how to how to form a solution you're not the results like you You are the thing that can figure out what the problem is, how to Like, I had a friend of mine who, he had to get a, he had to break up with this girl because he was dating her.

1:16:11 As a team guy, man, anybody, And as soon as they have a perceived adversity or difficult situation, And there's some guys that just don't do well when they they're the nail they're great when they're the hammer but when all of a sudden they're the nail they and then coming back and winning a fight, then you see a person with character. You know what I mean?

1:17:48 And he had a real tough fight recently with this guy named Brad Pickett. Hit him with a flying knee and knocked him out. You know, getting in trouble, like being able to operate is how you need to respond, or can you replicate that? comfortable with failure and you understand it. And some people think that it's just an attribute, Right. Why? Why? This is their first time doing that. Because they made the and they quit. And who doesn't quit? The people that don't quit are the people that you're going to count on. Right.

1:19:51 they made the decision beforehand. I can't believe I have to do another 20 miles and hump 100 pounds, They want the person who does it on their own. Yeah, it's beautiful. It's a beautiful process a half to two, two and a half years. And that's about 50% of the people, I think, you know. So Oh, yeah, man. 16% in that They just don't run into anybody as good as them.

1:22:43 Really? They're not entirely weak. miles you know there's levels a breaking point so there's no very good question this is the limit of their capacity i had this puppy and this is obviously He would come up to me and bite my hands, and I'd push him away. Give him kisses, but in his hitting his makeup you did with the super marathon or the marathon jazz, if you decided to, you can do it.

1:26:19 Not saying, well, you beat Usain Bolt in a 100-yard dash. I've been committed before. That's Like tell yourself you're going to do an hour and a half on an elliptical machine. crazy enough for these people because they they want to find the edge what when's the edge i hit He's a fucking alien, that guy. Yeah, in shorts. They did it in 20, 36 hours, and they did it in shorts.

1:29:14 in fights. I'm like, have you ever done any mental training your physical used to stuff and you get used to stuff like where it's not that bad anymore like you know i do this Like I literally like the timer goes off at three minutes. Check it out. uh, Yeah. like for most people, like, God, that's the amount of mental toughness is involved in that is

1:31:42 up right so a lot of people they look at that and they think of it as like walking on coals, No false hope. Everything is paperless, done through Skype, Yeah. Like, I know this could help me. Right. I know this could help me. You'll get Dr. Gordon's patient intake geographical location. So that's the only time you're going to have to leave your house to do this thing.

1:34:15 Dr. Gordon gets it. English in it, not just medicalese, and it explains some of the results and it gives them a chart of what the suggested first group of products or the first approach will be. or whatever, their accidents that they had, or which was for a military night, since we were so close to Coronado Island, and invited the Yeah. been told, like I was told, this is the new you.

1:38:02 military is through our practice because it's you know for a so that the first three months of product for the less than 40-year-old veterans, they're paying for all the medical care in 2012, $66 billion. That's why we're getting listened to Sure. Okay. $10,000 era coins or era if I can say her website sure okay? It's er a No. So we're using everything physiologic.

1:41:51 Sustained improvement. It's the brain. And low-dose, very well-absorbable, like testosterone propionate gets into the system, into the cells in three to four hours, and it's out of the blood. But this is a different one. That sounds like you're encouraging people but what it'll do is it'll allow you to live life the way it was intended to be. You know what I mean? So before, if you couldn't

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