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Joe Rogan Experience #712 — Wim Hof Transcript

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0:00 and boom we're live you're here thanks not a wolf t-shirt on nonetheless yes endurance you know is You have a very fascinating life, my friend. And you have done some amazing things. You can regulate levels of stress hormones that people thought were unable to be controlled by the human mind, probably I was in a soul search and and at that moment i felt the attraction and i knew I'm going to go in, you know, ice water.

2:53 I was more conscious at that moment. It's cold water. But the answer is not in the head. It needs combustion in the cell. This is something you figured out on your own. The cold is my only master. The cold is my only teacher. does happen physiologically you become fully charged the the carbon dioxide goes out Now, later on, I began to understand by science, by thinking about it, and deducting and all that.

7:50 a deep breathe in and deep breathe out and no we retent from breathing after Come on. you're able to stay without air in the lung for minutes. Deeply in. Take him in. letting go and stop. Just stop. without many difficulties and fend off bacteria, getting better into the endocrine systems. to tap in and bang into the primitive brain, We never use that.

12:54 Yeah, that's it. Yeah. And this is the way best to oxygenize the body. What was the university in Holland? and nobody was able to control to the depth of the immune system It's not a rule anymore. it's almost none worldwide. sick. Now this endotoxin, what exactly is the endotoxin? The endotoxin is a part of a bacteria, and the immune system recognizes it as a negative intruder.

17:19 Now you're talking, too. negatively that I was crazy and all that. Why? from the inside also, the gut feeling and intuition. You got an opponent. You said cold is your God. That's my God. Like, you went, for people who don't know, you did a bunch of really unbelievable tasks. No shirt on. in midwinter and shorts, You hung by one finger a mile up in the air?

21:58 25 seconds. Yeah. It's all very logic. And I think not only me, also psychiatrists, they saw the blood values, the markers in the blood within our study, creating eventually in length the depression. And anybody can do this. And he loves life, And we need to do this, because we And the power of our mind is enormous. things that aren't natural exactly we are living toward the system but it should be going around

27:19 is endurance you know believe that we are able to tap in deeper There's no rhinoceros coming to that guy. physical exertion yes and that's why they've shown tests that in many cases exercise can be just as Yes. And, you know, for many people who are depressed, they are quite unable to get into their body and begin to run and things like that. then he becomes a different person much faster.

30:25 and also for daily stress. So you just covered in ice? Your core temperature was rising while you're covered in ice for 80 minutes? but in a laboratory without me, ex vivo it's called, And this blood was looked upon into it by a microscope. I need more energy, of the cold? I did experiments with the brown fat adipose in the nuclear department of nuclear medical department in Maastricht, a different university. And it showed that I had the same brown fat adipose levels as a young man,

35:23 That's what they saw. because when the fat is consumed, You go, you stay in this, it's a box. I feel so great. extreme 250 degree below zero cold yes i did it too and uh uh yeah have you done the one where I do three minutes and 30 seconds, Just a little bit of cold is enough to trigger the vascular system the right way, enabling it to work better with the nervous system.

38:55 no, you are able to repair yourself whenever you feel not healthy or depressed or with a loss of energy, you know, strength, happiness, and health, Breathing your method. Could be in the throat, could be here, could be, you know, somewhere in this part. this is a measurable thing you've changed temperature like 10 degrees. This is a measurable thing?

41:24 You know the guys? They just go into unconsciousness and coma and things like that. So you're in the tank, freezing cold, Living is a wonder, and we have to re-experience that. And that's the paradigm shift. And when it connects with the body again and we got the techniques. into the immune systems and like cryotherapy as you were talking mentioning it goes up to

44:46 But it takes two weeks. is far bigger than you normally use. Because I was not trained to do that. jiu-jitsu they try to teach you to breathe in through your nose i wrote books on the subject before. Now I say, it doesn't matter what kind of hole you use, just get it in. in in jujitsu that just to keep yourself calm you're supposed to the kumbhaka yogis.

48:17 breathing you were saying that when you were young that you when you discovered this type of breathing But what is that? Any infection, any disease, anything they got, we have the ability to connect with our body. it once again instead of being alienated because of comfort behavior, And we are going to prove this more and more because I'm dealing with the universities.

51:09 Yes. So that's, what is that, 13 miles? Because when you hear someone's doing that, You know where when I felt so powerless with my wife then those days I loved her to death And I told them, oh yeah, I can do that. And they told, how is this possible were they did they not So began to raise questions. And now we are going to do more clinical studies

55:44 unhappiness, and having no energy or strength. We've thousands of years of written history. You come along and you change everything. And now I'm very, very certain I got a mission. which is a biochemical institute. And it is belief. problem in life is so important. It's so important to human beings You would change. Now I understand why you can hang by one finger.

59:27 But over there, it's a different thing. because fear is just, you know, ice so the ice is three feet thick for people don't know what a meter as you're diving into So I had a general repetition. I'm going to do all the distance now I began to do this breathing, There you feel lost. Because the retina froze. That means then I'll arrive at the other hole.

1:02:51 A blur. It's like every animal in the world dies, you know, in peace. You go to sleep. The lack of oxygen was there, but it was You were close to death. and then you get a different connection. Yes. Oh, you say you missed it. So there was a 50-meter hole, and then what was the second hole? Okay. I'm still blind. Really? is that your eyeballs don't get cold.

1:06:30 Yes. But it's an amazing one. You are not in contact with the natural environment at that moment. Yeah, simply lost. We go. But most of us, we have lower and more acidic state levels of pH degrees. You don't feel the pain anymore. And we you've ever led a group of people say a third time already would you like anything else to drink almost 40 years already of you know experience of exposing the body the physiology to extremes

1:11:43 Hey, have a nice beer, man. Oh, is that a Boston? Is that from Germany? but one of the greatest kickboxing nations in the world. So with Alistair, So he came to me because of people saying, hey, this guy is scientifically endorsed. and the man is so in control of his body And then he is listening. Okay. Yeah. you want to win, you want to increase, you want

1:15:22 he's taking cold baths, you know, ice when you do a match. And I'm not talking bigger. Well, for fighters, that could be a huge advantage because one of the big things that happens to them during hard training and defense of your territory. dominion and as we are if you take on too much adrenaline then it becomes acidic and you mess up the endocrine systems. Very logic.

1:18:22 What did you do? No. You see a mountain and you feel, make it happen but what how do you stimulate adrenaline though like? Like, if you have someone lie on their back. They got these devices but probably 150%. What happens? that the 100% was reached the brain stem that, it reacts into this survival mode and so much that adrenaline wow is over there so it's just about holding the

1:22:55 What are you doing? Life is a bitch. How well do you know these folks? Right. with 26 people. The oldest one a guy with cancer, two people with the disease of Crohn, one with roma arthritis. Right. There are 26 people, we did it in two days oh my god and they changed these guys they have a lot more From the 46 hours, went to 31. They're also tougher.

1:26:52 the end of it even enjoy it yes yes okay but it shows once again the mind the They're all in shorts. People get back to their natural ability. But what if you get somebody with you that's a legitimate bitch? And this is that. he will uh he will block us of going up you know and get a rhythm out it's just a problem but people around you and they tell me that

1:30:30 Well, why does he think he knows this? Yeah, merciless but righteous is true. They absorb that. is maybe even better than like a cryo chamber because it's it's so hard to breathe in cold okay, like a normal pool, like a swimming pool, it's nice. I can breathe. I breathe just like I You see the difficulty with cold water. So maybe it's like the, maybe the smart thing to do is to do both things is do like a cryo chamber for the physical effects, because they say that the cytokines are released in

1:34:30 they say, I don't think I could do it. It's over. You're fucking breathing. Yeah, sure, sure, sure. It's awakening the right pH levels once again, that and for every individual it's a little bit different so for tuning like so uh yeah it's a is okay I always But we are able, and that's my belief, like 25 years ago, I told everybody, the autonomic nervous system in relationship to the immune system can be influenced far deeper.

1:38:23 doing this for a long time, but it's not until recently that you've sort of broken through to the mainstream. and you're watching your enthusiasm in your belief And he's the author of The Supple Leopard. He was saying that what you're doing right now for athletes and for people that want to understand know how how deep can you go if you lose your wife etc but it has been

1:40:42 reestablished Kelly. Rhonda, who's a physician. and compared the blood results We got to bring back the belief that we are beings who naturally should be happy, strong, and healthy. And I really do. And something like this, The millions of people that will listen to this non-dogmatic choice yes we gave the people no religion we give the people And somebody needs to do it.

1:44:51 monitor your diet at all? Are you you don't need a mirror. durable. Yes. And also with the meat and all that. After 35 years, today haven't had anything to eat? No. Yeah. Ahead. I didn't suffer Is that what it is? That's your way to regain strength Because if you do a ferocious workout, Sounds beautiful. Like, I know I'm not. You are fighting for your life.

1:48:53 I'm sorry. I love it, too. I love it. I like Italian. I enjoy it. It tastes great. I love it, too. Why after 6 o'clock? If I work out in the morning, I have a few pieces of fruit. Sounds great. They don't use it in the body anymore. And then they get to work. We got to bring back the intensity of the wonder of the day. creative with constructing cars some people creative with clothing oh yeah people are

1:51:50 which goes along and sculpts yes yes yeah the same thing oh man that's a there's a resistance to that in this country Yeah, it's smaller. to do that? The science So all the system... You're talking about depression, and you're talking about how our body is not really designed to deal with the stress that it deals with Yes, exactly. And we lost this.

1:56:51 And they are resetting over there. Sausage Valley near South Africa. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, things happening. I'm a little bit addicted to coffee. I don't know if I'm going to master this. Yes. And then he saw all the range, my core body temperature remained 37 degrees. And then the man with the hammer comes. Yeah. anything. That's a crazy way to look at it though. And then the man with the hammer comes.

2:00:21 and under performance, But also breathe more than you feel is needed. Instead of disconnecting and becoming acidic, oxygen is inside and gets on and is producing energy. You know the horse stance? thus producing more energy. from frostbite any anything so how do you get frostbite we begin to sing and we begin to have we put it in front of us, in the blood

2:03:49 word water. Water I say, I do crazy experiments. But we never did it uh but yeah i think And he said, what a hangover is, is your body being addicted to So we have very self-limiting ideas about our control over life itself. uh, right? Yeah. Yeah, it does. But once again, I got my mission. My mission is to help as much children in the world as possible.

2:07:04 The problem is you're legitimate 100%, you realize they're bullshit artists. They're the victim of their own work. It's the fact that there's a bunch of people out there What if you didn't exist? I love your spirit. No, I love the spirit. And that's why only love you, I love your work I love your spirit And I love your spirit and you're bouncing on some and, uh, you're

2:09:50 He's got no shorts on. This is Columbia Sportswear. This is a commercial. Oh And it seems like. What's going on here? What is in this picture here? This is Columbia Sportswear. Wow. we not expose ourselves anymore we get frostbite etc but if you get into the system and you learn to control right and you get the right ph degrees then the frostbite will not come because we got a

2:11:49 where their hands don't freeze up and get numb. a kind of behavior, But sometimes, like a dog, you need to go out. in front of a fire then, it would be things we need violence I think sometimes to appreciate peace it's like and more aware of you it's like I'm getting people tweet at me all the time We want to make the world happy. love and care i thank these people very very much from the heart and we still need to go on. So we all need you.

2:16:05 And that's us. then the love will bloom, because that's the natural flower of every person. in a way that we couldn't reach them before. We can reach kids with ideas and with open-mindedness and new streams and new new tributaries and I think we live in a beautiful time because And then it's overwhelming and it becomes overwhelming and then it becomes a natural

2:19:02 why not i got i got this i got him to help me on the podcast. We got different universities. Really. is actually the first study that showed that the autonomic nervous system in relationship with the I posted a photo of it online the other day because he got MRSA, Well, I think what they're doing is they want to rein you in just because they understand

2:22:10 bodies again and taking Exactly. And I thank you very much, man. Yes, absolutely. and you got an open invitation What is it? And your website is, what is your website? Right on.