Joe Rogan Experience #718 — Christopher Ryan Transcript

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0:00 Ladies and gentlemen, Dr. Chris Ryan. They have a mommy that takes care of them. Some dirty girl Give me a fantasy. Well, that's the thing. Did she really? Yeah. Well, that's I've ever had on the podcast where two of my He was one of the original founders of Vice, and they call him the godfather of the hipster movement because he dresses like like a really sharp

3:13 I'm sure, given more time, he would like to express himself a little more clearly in that regard. and don't question it And you're right. He's like – he's relaxed and analytical. left really yeah from really yeah because all the political correctness. Oh, you're a cisgendered white male with your mansplaining, blah, blah, blah. to be said there but anyway i was thinking about man spreading you know what that is yeah on the

6:30 I think design the seats better. I do do that. But, you know, it freaks. Then I i shake their hand that's probably freaked out you should have like a ball grabbing glove like that you could just sort of slap it snap i'm about to give myself Yeah, from a fighter's perspective. Yeah. But still, another shitty design. They have such tiny dicks. That's because the females are promiscuous.

8:57 If you weren't hoeing around, we wouldn't need our balls on the outside. No. supposedly they would have I'm not a big fan of any ball sucking, actually. whether it's basketball or painting or dick sucking. Just let it roll. And women, lesbians report much higher orgasmic frequency than straight women do. It makes sense. but when it comes to sex they're really it's really hard for people to express what they enjoy

11:47 Yeah, it's a weird thing, sex. towards social uses. you know, like socially as well, like seeing how someone interacts with someone socially, And we've kind of gotten this position by virtue of our being able to socially jive and that really freaks out 20th century and 21st century Western scientists because it smacks of communism, you know. she'll go out and fuck a Brad Pitt looking dude.

15:29 This woman tweeted something the other day and I responded to it. and i think actually you and i had discussed this once like this idea but it totally makes sense No worries. Yeah. all the babies born one year from the sheep herd But the females were like, whatever, put me with the goats, I'll fuck the goats. Put me with the sheep, they had grown up with but the females were like

18:02 but she's so sweet and nice and like i'm sure you know she's energy then it doesn't become problematic because it doesn't build up it's you know like if dude Right. Which is true. And they have to figure out what that is. And so that could be expressed as like you need to smell latex to get off or you need to be treated by, humiliated by somebody like Sierra or whatever it is.

21:30 so, yeah, psychological with the males, I think in, and of course there are many exceptions to what I'm Whereas, and so if you're sexually abused as a kid, the thing is, all right, you're those sort of connections are made on a level of personality god damn yeah it's it's heavy but like or how people react to that when they have those kind of issues well i think that's the way we need

25:01 You know, I've always described really intense psychedelic experiences for X amount of years of my life until now. I think for a lot of people, they have these big At least partially, at least in some way, fall prey to the victim of the patterns of their past. because they physically mark, like, a big change in your life. I've been doing that too. Excuse me, I'm talking.

27:52 You got more than one phone. I made this recording. Like, how bizarre. Like, you don't even have to press a button anymore. gig for um data you know but it automatically picks whatever network is strongest where you are And I have to switch. They're so terrifying. Yesterday they invited me to come and speak at their headquarters and wherever the fuck they are.

30:54 And then we go back and forth a few times. i thought this was an official google event right and i don't have time you know if it's robot killing machine. That's gross, man. you know, that were like, they put on gigantic festivals, and they don't pay the artists. go on the cruise or whatever but what pisses me off is they don't tell you up front They're paying so they can meet me.

34:15 Like there's something attached to being attached to a big company. Well, I don't know, man. So, like, the CEO of Google is going to be there and, you know, Mark Zuckerberg or somebody, all these kind of people. some of them and i'm just like not in the pay grade you know i don't know well i don't know It's all the networking opportunity. I mean, Like if Richard Branson started listening to your podcast, you wouldn't be bummed out.

36:34 Whenever I hear that term, you know, Yeah, actually, I mean, I badmouth Ted, but I did become very good friends with the billionaire there. I don't know. There's a sauna. uh watch peter pan we went to see the movie the other day and the movie is uh it's pretty cool engines what it does it say 53 yeah there you go well I'm a little Did your daughter notice that it was racist?

39:12 on the road. I'm not a about telling the truth when you made mistakes and not getting upset at people and that kind of Who was the other? variations but they have like similar words i think that they're i think the people the writers The boy wonder. Beaver. Because beaver fur. weeds growing on her panties it is a weird thing though, because until, what was it, maybe 15, 20 years ago, everybody had a bush.

41:58 Just try it. I don't know. what it was like it was like there was two main girlfriends that i had in high school and uh we'd never be boyfriend we just hooked up and fucked a lot right but uh one time she uh had Like she was embarrassed that I would see it and like not see her bush. even wasn't like you know we were long time boyfriend and girlfriend or anything she was just

44:57 roll your dick in front of her? Do you know about the, what were they called? Wow. And she wasn't some whore. so that way you can kind of earn sex and if sex was more free you wouldn't get as much done. And I wonder if it's some sort of a weird workaround that almost like the construction of this advanced civilization is sort of it's like it's invented this path that sort of ensures productivity.

47:55 And if sex was easy to achieve, you'd be a little bit more relaxed in your needs. Yeah. Because it's the result of that. They're doing it with water right now. You think about it. Excuse me. have fucking established. that are owned by the citizens. very valuable land to large corporations to pay off a lot of Well, Yeah. That's another thing that the right, like, almost universally does.

51:42 There's an agreement with a lot of like very confirmed-wing people that you're going to be religious. Not only are they not wealthy, they have no potential to be wealthy. like how are you so confident do you know like there's like thousands of scientists that have in this exponential rate and it starts instead of looking at it like oh we're losing yeah there's

54:05 underwater that was about 300 feet higher than it was 12 000 years ago yeah i mean there's some And as the warmer water comes over and melts that ice, like permafrost is also happening in the Arctic. wool mammoth carcasses and shit some saber-toothed tiger got saber-toothed tiger aids and it's gonna just get blown off like like dandelions in the in the breeze and it's gonna fly up your nose and

56:31 And he's like, how can everyone live that way? possible for everybody to live the way i'm living not if there are seven billion of us right right we've got the technology. and more ingrained in the civilized urban life, that they'll be less and less likely to breed. I'm talking about women in Pakistan who have absolutely no power or anything. Right.

59:43 that a lot of these places that have uh allowed allowed pretty much anyone to immigrate to that they develop these communities. And in these communities, they, you know, essentially hold on to some of the worst aspects of wherever they're from. And it's only part of the communities. But if you go through those parts of those communities, you're going to find those people. Yeah, sure. Yeah. It's,

1:00:41 thinking well like i was saying earlier about the diaspora from africa Yeah. will be on on the 19th With evidence, photographs and core samples of how radically the Earth's temperature changed around 12,000 years ago. the great periods of education and innovation, they all came with warmth. Half of North America was under a mile-high sheet of ice. No beautiful French girls.

1:02:42 That's people that are trying to put fat on. I saw your show there. That's right. He is so good at podcasts and rants. Dude, I forgot to press record. Australia is amazing, though. Ooh, I like it. Yeah. pay their performance exactly they didn't pay him and they made them sleep in a room with some other dude. They've become this corporate entity. it's a strange thing i mean i i feel like you know they've got a huge platform and you got to

1:06:50 you saw what happened with Graham Hancock. this, Sure. Yeah. Be happy. Yeah. Yeah. And be happy. And so, like, Steve Jobs said LSD was the most important experience of his life. He's supposed to be crazy, though. But every time I saw him, he was engaged in the same argument with the same guy. It's still the end of the day. You just punch it in the face.

1:10:23 Nicaragua. And he's like, dude, I'll take you out. And I'm underwater and like, all right, that's you could die. scoped myself once i scoped myself once when i shot a pig i scoped myself right on the nose oh like in an So I was shooting his 30-06 and apparently I was doing pretty well. I got one of those. That's right here. Canada. It was like Jurassic Park.

1:14:13 They're monstrous, monstrous animals. like three times as big same species yeah same species yeah yeah that's also why polar bears And I heard the splashing in the river below. beings and that's uh one of the reasons why some people thought that show the hunt i don't know if Anyway, I'm interrupting you. Yeah. They like it rotten. Really? And women, you know about the thing with women.

1:17:42 With a bear head. Have you met him? No, he made a remake of it with Nicolas Cage. It's fantastic. You need Jesus in your life. He kills everybody. But Werner Herzog is an actor in a rare moment but when he talks all you can think of is timothy I will not make another movie about the damn penguins. want to meet yeah whim he's like i think he's an amazing human being yeah so i go to amsterdam a

1:21:11 something really deep and the whole thing with his wife and you know how it started is so like Who gives a fuck? I paid 60 grand to the guide to like drag my sorry ass up there. There was a recent article, I forget what publication, but some online thing where they were talking about the business of going to Everest. work again for the rest of your life come with me this free pussy and cocoa in the tent below

1:23:30 But everybody cares about the highest spot. Yeah. Like there's an association, people believe, This is something I read. And it's way better strategically to be a pie Maybe you'd want to buy it He'll probably live forever. It's not going to happen. He's like, none like i've had a fuckload he's like yeah none I did, flexing as you're that I wrote for Esquire.

1:26:43 I've heard the expression but Right. I'm going to eat right. They take a psilocybin dose and have an experience. and they're like, I'm not afraid of dying anymore. and you could tell like the person who's interviewing him who's interviewing him didn't He's just there. Yeah. That's pretty dope. i've just written by the way i'm fucking done you're done well i'm in the rewrites now but

1:30:16 if it's someone telling me chris it's got to be done by tuesday i'm like yeah whatever that's I had this conversation with a friend of mine. I don't want to say his name. Sad. I go, I resent it. Those are my family. else's pussy who cares like that this idea that it's only meaningful if you surround yourself we know we're gonna die so what do we do then we develop all these mechanisms some conscious some

1:33:29 Every culture that's had access to them has seen them as the greatest gifts of the gods, and you're selling them at a concert, Schedule one psychedelics. A year. the wrong part of the country, Because like we were talking about before, they make sprays now, ladies and gentlemen. which, you know what I like? A little happy See that's not cool Joey gave Duncan some fucking cookie of death, And it was just unbelievably powerful.

1:36:14 in a fucking tornado of terror, Well, I guess if it's coming from Joey Diaz, you should know better. I've had one bad. Well, bad. he exists. I've had one bad trip. But the last time I did acid, I did a heroic dose. Exactly. They'd fucking lock you up. Nolan Ryan, the pitcher? Check in and then spend the night and then the next day explain the situation and come back.

1:38:54 I've been pulled over before and been stone cold sober, especially before I was famous, and worried that I'm not sober. He didn't do anything. It out I'll figure. Oh you're here for my fucking free coffee And when someone is pointing to you at being a disruptor of harmony in some doing that i'm like you gotta get break up with her because that that'll that'll you'll get sucked

1:41:10 someone starts pointing at you and saying, you know what, Chris, you're just a fucking asshole. And then before you know it, their fucking memory is so distorted and twisted by years Yeah. anyone it's not about reducing crime one of the sickest aspects of our culture that we have more people in It's fucking crazy. And you're going to go to France and sit in a cafe.

1:42:57 Just hang with that dude. You'll be like, I'm Chris Ryan. I'm an author. I'm not a billionaire. back. But on the other hand, a yacht this big, if you take someone off that yacht, you're going to Why is that? Right. So you finally catch the dude after he's already escaped right from the other one five years ago or whatever that was you finally catch the dude again you put him in the most

1:45:21 That's why they're all arrested now. But they need the tunnel. to get him through the tunnel. I mean, the tunnel he paid off some people to allow him to build a tunnel i I think that's the Occam's razor point of view. went out through the tunnel we'll leave this fucking evidence and whatever the little motorbike You don't buy it. If you're going to go to prison, Mexico is a good place.

1:47:51 You can watch TV. Hookers? He had parties. Yeah. And he was wished away by his security guards. Yeah. The girl from high school. What cries a girl? her shaved vagina the girl from high school He went whole hog. She goes, some part of it. yeah so they're that imagine the schism that that creates in your own experience where you're like what what what exists with human beings and that it doesn't exist at all in any of the animal world

1:51:58 my whole world's been thrown upside down like this idea of what people can and can't do to each other. It's so crazy. Yeah. He couldn't handle it. In her head, that was the fantasy. The the fancy like when she would be alone knows there They're the last remnants of that. Or two women, in the case of the women. about fucking your wife forever or the postman and they're like maybe they know your schedule

1:54:54 Yeah. That's fucking very, very dangerous. But when you're taking something that forces you into that state, Yeah, but it's not necessarily safe. I mean whether it's safe. There's I came in thinking, I don't know what we're going to talk about. Jamie, that's fine. But if there are a million people my podcast or putting you know comments they're fucking beautiful yeah like if i'm feeling down

1:57:21 That's where I'm going to die. I trashed some other people. same patterns but there wasn't this sort of immediate world global mind and now there is I definitely think there's a radical transformative power of the instant exchanging of ideas and And also the repercussions of living in a world filled with bad ideas and bad assumptions posts, there is a community to that because we are exchanging information. We all communicating

2:01:22 it called it's called future perfect. And the author is Steven Johnson. in two years. quicker and i think another aspect of it is that until now the ideas that became powerful Right. We would stream from a laptop card. Right. yeah i'd probably be removed from the the discussion but i i mean i feel like there's No. And you don't get to choose. And you've got to have that guy out. What was it like on the set

2:05:00 And that's all you're ever going to get in these And then next thing you know, bam, new guest with their new top 40 song, I Love Apples. they want to know who the fuck are you you know like you or don't like you you're you right chris And I think one of the beautiful things about podcasts is that you get to share this with other people And then they have their own idea from that and maybe that can become a fucking business

2:07:32 the truck as you were saying that i was thinking one of the things that i really like we were just sit down and absorb the information and also because i think it's so good it's great there's so much subject matter is amazing it's incredible yeah but i could see I mean, they're creating this thing. Just out. And you've had him on your show, right? yeah um no um the prophets of doom i think was the one about um it's like a seven seven part

2:10:08 How hard do you have to work to make this boring? ring that's history on fire yeah he was just here he was just here on friday yeah fucking love that Yeah. Yeah. Right. They swim and they're half naked And there is no gold. really interesting book that's about the Aztec thing where you know they went and pretty much universally accepted that columbus

2:14:34 You know, you're an expansive empire system, Like, there are way more prisoners in America now than there were 50 years ago. And the system gives you that power, and you just happen to have been plugged into that spot. They had no garbage. We would go, oh my God, we're retarded. It's not saying they don't disagree about things If we found some group that had figured that out, we found some planet that was filled

2:17:49 That's what we're- That is what we're doing. E.O. Wilson said, he's a great biologist. That's very similar to the story that is told over and over and over again at first contact between civilized people and native people. same as the spaniards right i'm talking about native low scale uh low scale hunter gatherer bands where everybody knows each other.

2:20:29 they have a feast. Even if, you know, the guys next door got a beaver and they're having a feast Well, they lived in a different world, too, where there wasn't this massive fucking quantity of human beings that are literally pulling everything out of the land. he's famous for he shot him and left him there to fucking rot yeah what they do they took the hides

2:21:55 You know what's also interesting? much better environmentally well they can i mean they're fucking hardy hardy and they can withstand There's a crazy thing called a muskox. Furry thing with horns and it's running around in the frozen snow. You're like what the fuck is that? Right. Yes. He quit and he went out to like Montana, I think, and worked on a ranch.

2:25:46 Right. Maybe the first national park. cool it's like it's the top floor of and it's up on the hill anyway, so you can see all the way to the ocean. There are no cameras allowed. And everyone's like, fuck you. Celebrities? You can go out on the terrace where you can smoke and whatever and talk and text or whatever. Because it's a place where you can go and work all day.

2:28:31 What? i think the idea it's not like my impression anyway is that it's not about like going and being seen it's about going and not That's the only club I want to go to. about them like what is this what and i realized i can't be in this conversation i mean like this hat but yeah i don't think they give you hats but you know what i mean it's like Well,

2:31:16 People love that velvet rope. he's a really good friend of mine. Oh, that's gross. get this he has his computer he works there and then he's off to Miami to do some more filming Homeless girls that don't have any place to go and they went up staying with him And Dennis Hopper and that kind of scene, right? Like no one knew what the fuck to expect. he got his shit together but he was just so fucking charismatic that like people just gathered around

2:35:21 that aren't from here oh i'm honored man honored, man. You're taking some notes. about the cave art? Yeah. What is it like looking at those things in person and knowing that someone 40,000 years ago or whatever the fuck it was. It's fucking amazing. What is he doing in China? I'm really glad you did that, too, because he's 85 or something. Well, he was the guy.

2:38:02 as much of that shit as possible, even though that's how he started out. Amazing. I don't have any powers. And when he would pull information out of people about their childhood and guess things He's like, this is, these are crooks. Is there something you're thinking about doing? Okay. Then extrapolate from that to the American medical system where 30% of all Medicaid is spent in the last month of people's lives.

2:40:13 Fucking again, you know? And the dying people, I mean, there's a there's a lack of accepting of the futility of the body failing. There's a lot of that. like that and then put someone down but on the other hand like why would you want someone to just suffer in What about hermetically sealed stainless steel caskets? Wouldn't you want, I mean, ashes to ashes, dust to dust.

2:43:04 But do you think that's changing? I do. culture's stuck. But do you think that's changing? wife is facing this kind of thing and you're thinking, fuck, you know, I could put the dog down. and you look at what choices doctors make for themselves when they're dying versus what they recommend to their patients. sign this and then off them whatever the question i have is like are we are we making there are

2:45:08 It disempowers them. Yeah, it only makes sense in that sense. experiences that they've gone through and perhaps you're going to go through. Rites of passages were or ideal of what life is all about. And that's where we've formed our vision or our version of that was never possible before. You could write a Facebook blog or a Tumblr blog or make a short YouTube video.

2:48:17 We can all aid in shaping our view of the world that we live in. It's crazy. I think one day in the future, they'll look back at the 21st century and they'll And we're not even realizing how bizarre it is. And the internet was starting. mean i was thinking of it in terms of my own life right because i wanted to be back in spain i was All I did was download UFO reports.

2:51:16 I just would go to the DVD store Sometimes they had saloon doors. Well, you know. Did you ever see that when Deep Throat came out, it was essentially viewed as a cinematic film. Have you seen the documentary Inside Deep Throat? No. I think she was diagnosed with cancer Well, you know, oftentimes people do become tools of groups that have these ideological principles that you may or may not go with.

2:54:25 Like why would you even say that? you know, this idea, I mean, hey, that's. That's not bad. I like women who eat women for breakfast. Unless she means it in a nice way. Like, come. So you don't want to come. I mean, hey, that's- It's like the doro bird. Well, it takes a special kind of passion. Right. Woo-hoo. Well, you do it. I'll just sort of start something. You're like, all right, we're doing this? Right.

2:55:50 I did not consent. May I shove it in harder? Well, it's America, too. Have you been to Spain? No, never May I tease you? Oh, man. We live in a weird world. Yeah. Well, it's America, too. other crazy people that believe in them like the people that convinced Linda Lovelace So a woman who identifies with being male can also get pregnant and abortion rights are for her to him.

2:57:57 You found it already, Jamie? What you did is beautiful. to me you're not a woman yeah and everybody's like what how, what did she say? How dare you? That's hate language. For gender, we'll just accept anything. Normally with transgender, But because he's talking about gender, he can say, well, now I'm a man. I just flipped. Fuck you for saying it. Jesus.

3:00:35 Next summer. All right. Appreciate it, as always.