Joe Rogan Experience #721 — Eddie Bravo Transcript
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0:00 Two, one, yee-haw! Made it way better. But on iTunes and on, or on YouTube, there's no commercials. and he's on here to promote it. What's the process? And then by the time the podcast starts, so, what's up, man? I do sit there, and I am interested in how I'm teaching and what I said and how I could have made the point clearer in my teaching. like I've found
2:40 people like guys are telling this story it's hilarious and he's like she came up to me and started mad dogging You're like, no, I was thinking it. No. Did you actually say that to him? I don't know You're like, we're basically doing the same thing. We're God. You know what I'm saying? Well, black guys were calling each other God for a while on the East Coast.
5:03 And they were talking to each other. And then I remember shaking my head going, But people are trying. Yeah. How long ago? I like it. Scream at me. I bet if you said it like that, well, you're a funny guy. Oh, it's going to work for women. elongated versions. But fucking's the worst, right? And I don't give a fuck. chicken is fucking, it's like, you're off. There's something off. You're, you're, you're using one
8:31 man i better not say it it's something that i probably should not talk about but it's funny Oh, man. On my notes. So good. Put it down. these days. It seems like I'm watching Yeah, you just got to get it broken down to you in a system. and then they're just grabbing their ankles. I was pretty good at heel hook coming off being mounted, If you're going to do MMA,
11:32 Nothing's working. It's a third Thank God that you could actually pull this off You know what I'm saying? Alan Belcher thought long and hard about this and worked a lot on the strategy One of those places down there. whenever that fight was, And he just forced him to learn little by little. But anyways, Alan Belcher eventually learned how to deal with leg locks.
14:28 Just legs. But we're also learning Guy's gonna defend the first time. those legs eventually just wearing you out even yes and then but in MMA man you got to go in there like taking him down and passing his guard and mounting him and getting his back and nice and safe. You're not going to You remember that Crow Cop Gonzaga fight, the last one, where Crow Cop was on top of Gonzaga and blasting him with elbows?
16:37 Oh, can't forget that kind of shit. It's like, good luck holding on to me. Top guys got to clinch too. back extension. Pa-pa. Somewhere in San Luis Obispo or some shit. you don't see it anymore When you think of someone, you try to think of a UFC fighter who's known for a special submission. There's so many different ways to guillotine necks, Now that I'm thinking about it and talking about it
19:24 Is cause I'll have like a story I want to say but then I think okay let me set it up so when I'm Shit. It's when you get high. Yeah. So there you go. How good is he going to do? What is he competing at? you're going to need six to eight weeks, whereas if you're on tough, Yeah. in the house i think he has he had one fight and he had a fight to get in uh So far, with just those two fights, he's already a world
22:40 shit. How good is it? It's Skin. Oh, he starts a lot McGregor's just calling it like, he just figures if he just calls it like he sees it, no filter, just call it like you see it. And they're different weight classes. Conor's not going to sit there and be the little 160 pound, you know, tiny little fighter to Chael. You'd have to get Chael off of his suspension.
24:37 free weight. Connor would call him out and say, let's do this shit. That would break it. That would be the greatest ratings of all time. That would be like Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie of MMA. and she's the number one chick on the planet Well, she's become like an ambassador. because we always have suspect motives. she's had the the most amazing career ever i mean she's hot and everything but there's a lot of hot
27:26 But if they were going to do Alien 6 with Angelina Jolie, you'd be like, oh, shit. Maybe that did like 100 million or something. For now. There's not a lot of movies made about 60-year-old ladies. Because the only things that he was being offered He was, he was. I think it was called 24-hour photo or something like that. And you know they would offer him a piece of the back end or something like that probably.
29:29 You'd never believe that the same guy from Mork and Mindy would be this fucking creeper in one hour photo. You know, he committed suicide for whatever reason. I don't know. could be attributed to your body's like, we're not thinking about being happy at all right now. They would prescribe it especially to athletes when they get injured not just to make them recover quickly
32:31 where the ACL used to be. There's no ACL, all this inflammation, like your body's on just like is going to be interesting. I don't know the particular details of the law, It's amazing that you can't – you have to – and breaking all his bones and then stitch them back together again and give him some pills. And if grandpa was If your cat is in fucking agony, man, you put your cat down. Your dog gets hit by a car and he's not going to make it.
34:57 Embrace that darkness. You know? I stayed friends with him for the past 26 years. And I answered the ad and I met this dude and he was fucking hilarious. Most of these people, they would get up early in the morning and go work other jobs, How old were you at this time? Talk shit about it. Listen, that's how they get you. He was a guy that was meant to be a comedian that never became a comedian.
38:18 would show up at people's houses. He would have like a list of license plates. And on Is she okay? And the guy would go, yeah, you're getting paid? And she's telling him, you know, well, she's my maiden name. She's like, well, I got hurt a little bit, but I was fine. She goes, she goes, fuck her. It was like, I'm the sheepdog. We'd catch a guy on a roof with a fucking bag of shingles on his back.
40:47 And then what usually would happen, I believe the way they would work is the insurance company would threaten the person. Nothing ever got ugly. He loved the scamming people. He gave us everything. Fuck him. He just died of cancer last week. he was a good dude man stayed begin you know stayed being a private investigator every now are you looking at the pictures i'm looking at because he would like take pictures of this guy
43:34 I'm not sure if I want you talking about her like that. like, husbands and shit? I'm sure there's Well, I'm sure there's some of the husband fucks, too. And then, when the guy comes, he comes in the husband's mouth. Dude's on Twitter sending you links that already exist. mean shit porn that's not even porn It's like they're doing it like they're trying to kill themselves
45:50 It seems like people got bored with the regular stuff, and then it got more and more and more. was talking about this the other day with Chris Ryan that like porn like the It would like burn Good point. We don't want hair on them. Where they cut their lips Who's fucking... I know, right? Maybe back in olden times, Yeah. Yeah. Like for me, growing up with long hair, that was a – I thought when I was growing up, my dad was never around and my stepdad didn't give a shit,
49:33 that never affected me. normal looking people I was so affected. I was so affected. That shit, I'm too strong for that shit. Every kid that doesn't get paid attention to, That's what happens to people. that they were being taken as slaves freak shows, but with a lot of a little bit, you know what I mean? they're hanging you, Jesus, there's something, I want to know what happened.
52:17 Oh, yeah. was sexual abuse where it was violence whether it was abandonment whatever it Like every time else I was like, oh, my God, I can't be here. I can't do this. I can't do this. I don't want to do this. That's like her nickname for it. That's the only way we can connect. Everyone knew these were special spots. I'm listening to like satellite radio.
55:17 Or apparently he's Latin, but he looks like a white guy with vanilla eyes and says King Daddy. He's fucking huge. everybody out. We were, But now, You would know that guy because we would all be on those same channels. news sources. So they have a right-wing Everything's been debunked. Everyone goes to science. But science, that that is what people need to.
57:33 It's way harder to control a narrative. inside job? Spending all this time thinking than to have this one mastermind stroke of genius? Tower 7 is unquestionably one of the hardest things to answer. What does the government say? finally came out. A government agency all about. You know what he said? There's on video, on video, right when it happens.
59:50 while they're there NIST no witnesses that said they heard It's possible they're gangsters. It's also possible When I look at that, though, it looks like a controlled demolition. It behaves exactly the same. And if those things were on fire, Blaze just on fire like every fucking corner of the building is fire Oh my God. It's fucking, and it's all news clips.
1:02:32 The Empire Unmasked. There's such a backstory and there's all these different players all the money that was missing. That's what everybody always says. Aliens? That's all. It's all tied together. real is the Iran-Contra They were running guns and drugs through Arkansas. We'll organize a coup and we'll pull our guy in and we'll conspiracy theory. They used to think it was a conspiracy
1:05:55 Sr. He's the ex-head of the But JFK is connected to Iran Contra, which is connected to 9-11. it's all about, They've always done that shit. all bullshit. We know that's a fact. and what is the best route to do? been laid out for the United States to General Wesley Clark, who was a guy who ran for president. believe it was on charlie rose and he laid out the government's plan like the people that are you
1:08:51 About 10 days after 9-11, I went through the Pentagon and I saw Secretary Rumsfeld and Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz. He said, I don't know. So I came back to see him a few weeks later, and by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan. going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq and then Syria, We keep asking for people to intervene and stop it.
1:11:03 doesn't believe in any conspiracy, you could watch this. Major General Smedley Butler and the fascist takeover of the USA. profits. One of the U.S. Marine Corps' most highly decorated generals, Smedley Darlington Butler, by his own account, helped pacify Mexico for American oil companies, Haiti and Cuba for National City Bank, Nicaragua for the Brown Brothers brokerage, the Dominican Republic for sugar interests, Honduras for U.S. fruit companies, and China for Standard Oil.
1:13:02 More power to you, President Roosevelt. Butler was fed up with being what he called a gangster for capitalism. which would be able to take over the functions of government. Regardless of whether the corporation can be trusted or cannot be trusted, as the new high priests This is the scariest part, is you know how a certain amount of people can be hypnotized?
1:16:02 He thinks, what is it? Is that real? Well, I've been hypnotized, and hypnotism is real. And so that person could be totally awake at work and then Maybe it's supposed to wear off But I was awake. That's for me in this situation, if it was a different situation and it was a more gullible Yeah, something. It's a documentary. I don't think it is a hoax.
1:19:08 Yes. The people that can be hypnotized, like 30% of them, No, because you'd have to sit down with those people This is all I'm saying. I've had meetings with them. And there's five hours of shit like that. They can see the build Tower 7 go boom, but they're going to believe the government. But you've got to have, based on what you see, your opinion.
1:21:23 the guy taps out, you go, well, that guy quit. and no one is saying that you, based based on all the gangster shit that's going on, they don't say shit for seven years. because it was a crazy building. jamie here we go like look at look at what was in Building 7. Standard Chartered Bank, New York City Office of Emergency Management. Really, really important shit.
1:24:21 He knows. It seems like those offices would have a lot of really crazy shit in them. obvious shit I know you have to stay on the fence I know I know that I do this Maybe that's not everything. If the building exploded, okay, if you do believe that the building was a controlled demolition, Why do you say that didn't happen? Because when did it There's many people that are speculating that when the building was actually constructed,
1:26:46 When you put all the pieces together, you're like, that's just one part of it. Department of Defense— That's Wikipedia, bro. when they construct it? And they said it was because of fires. I'm just looking at the evidence. Let's assume it is. Like, in 96, I believe it was 96, the World Trade Center towers, they blew them up in the basement, remember?
1:29:19 I'm not leaning towards anything, but why are you saying that that's impossible? We're looking like a jury, like a detective. Like I said, you put all that 9-11 it was an inside job. In that it's a demolition, based on all the I don't remember the names of the guys or anything like that. Yeah, yeah. situation. He becomes president after that. I don't know what their relationship is like.
1:32:41 Yeah, the scary thing is the people, when you ask anybody, they'll say, yeah, the government's But when they get nobody would waste their time. Where's the video? right away we had all that I'm scared of conspiracy theories. fucking eyes. Just look straight. Sometimes I think about that, you know, is that better? and, I mean... Global Cabal, let's figure this out
1:35:27 how it all goes down, Who controls that shit? the PR pro fucking propaganda machine It doesn't, I don't believe that. Yes. and do it John Stockwell so everybody was on these channels. Oh, that lady, she pushed that kid and she called for muscle. And they're like, it just is. It's fucking expensive. yeah that was september 10th and the next day uh that office in the pentagon is looking into it
1:38:30 it's obvious, taking a schedule one drug, do have the power because we still remember that from the constitution that's one thing we remember That's not a conspiracy theory. You're talking about criminals. They're running everything. Even for something as silly as marijuana. that are calling in. someone would say hey we got to spend a lot of money to stop this because it's
1:41:52 That is a freedom issue. It has nothing to do with marijuana itself. Now you and I are obviously at the time, fucking tsunamis, right? Tsunamis of information back when there were so few portals. What? And then he found this documentary, Hemp for Victory. This propaganda campaign by one guy and a bunch of other people that conspired with it as well,
1:44:46 If hemp became the new billion-dollar crop, as it was predicted on the cover of Popular It was about going after what the fibers of the plant do. And with all this reefer man and propaganda, there's people those people must have been. Harry Anslinger. It's the same people. They believe 100% of the official stories. Some people automatically gravitate towards-
1:46:41 9-11, there's so much shit. But the William Renner first thing, here's why it really can't be totally debunked. Did you find out William Randolph Hearst had anything to do with They were constantly working. That's the real story of the United States, Everybody Just shut the fuck up Sign a little trade agreement they turn they try to change the world so and then they had to get rid of them it's just like
1:49:18 What kind of bitches are we? I like drinking. No, we'd have organized crime would be even bigger, man. That company's not evil. Jack Daniels probably is. I don't know if It's a safe company. Those are the people that you're going to get. or tequila It's okay. No one cares. It's fucking terrible. Well, he had it used for work. That's brilliant. is these fucking Google cars.
1:52:41 when you're going across lines now. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. First of all, I love them because I'm an old Italian man. They're so smooth, too, dude. It's really weird. The closer you get to the thing, it lets you, hey, bitch, you're going to hit this fucking thing. We're talking about cars. This is a laser, a laser distance detecting cruise control. You just put your hands on the steering wheel.
1:55:15 Well, this is what they're saying. I want my arms down. It doesn't have every situation maybe those would just vanish. We were going like 65 miles an hour and a couple times she came close to my lane. Yeah, that's not bad like because it's going through the Bluetooth you have a little conversation or go through your which all my music is on my iPhone.
1:57:29 My fucking phone is 100 and something gigs. and our phones way more. You can send me, you've sent me songs and I listen to them you know you can go in on the airport music know that you can send me you've It transcribes for me accidentally. And it'll fucking find it on the internet all of them, I'm not an Eagles fan. I respect the shit Shit, the documentary, the story of how they got together and their dynamics when they broke up and got back together and shit.
2:00:07 and the record company is suing They just never got paid. They were huge. We bought your fucking video. I think it's on Netflix right now. Is that 30 Seconds of Mars? And he's a very successful actor, too. so they uh they got a record deal and just were not getting any money yeah you know i forget the fuck this goes oh you think working on a new album
2:02:22 They knew that she was a comedian, You know, she's an amateur comedian. Yeah. They just decide that somehow or another they're going gonna figure out a way to steal from her they're gonna tap into her creativity You're going to sign the goddamn deal. your own and find a new artist we always always need to bring in the new ones. and they won't never make it to their third album,
2:04:28 And 20 years into their career, they write fucking Beautiful Day. He couldn't even use a name. Nobody could say the band. A lot of that has been going on where they're trying to scoop up podcasts. It's not difficult. he's almost always in the top three or on what's going on with marijuana today. reading all sorts of crazy shit that gets sent me all the time reading
2:07:02 I'll read it for a few minutes if it seems interesting. So because of that, I feel like I get privy to or I get access to a lot of information that I might The human race gets to discuss things. internet. So now, No, no, I'm giving them the whole overall scope. buying all my old vinyl stuff and it's in my phone. I think more than ever now, now that we're
2:09:58 There's a lot of good artists out there. And you can distribute stuff in a unique way. motherfucking music yeah I don't know about that not just a piece but most I'm like, that is crazy. You sing it. It's theirs. What are they needed for? But why are record labels huge and and music is so easy to listen to and share and buy and shazam and spread amongst what the music uh industry thrives on niches and you know metal
2:12:56 That's what it killed. That's the best way to do it. Well, they tried to do that with me, man. Oh, shit. But if you sign off on that, it's still no good. And if you, I'm not going to agree. Like, are you out of your mind? And they want to, like, they owned Arsenio Hall's Facebook. You blow up some artist like Rihanna's They're still trying to jack young artists.
2:15:50 I think most people don't. don't get paid enough money from it. That's like Taylor Swift's complaint about it. Oh, really? Pharrell made only $2,700 in songwriter royalties from 43 million plays of Happy on Pandora. $2,700 for 43 million plays. downloads. You can pay $10 more money? You already have money. of the internet, is slowly the shift the artist is now because of the internet is slowly the shift
2:18:13 I do their show. No one's like, you guys are doing great. It's such an enjoyable show. Really appreciate that we're it seems like just yesterday where I'm driving around. I always had 55 CDs in the back of my car, people stepping on them, there's always CDs, and once every couple weeks, I gotta fucking organize my shit, there's just CDs everywhere in my car.
2:19:10 And these guys that were like radio DJs are essentially what made them cool is their personalities. Anybody could play those same records. that show. Like they would almost be better served if the radio station fired them and there's almost never a hiccup. That's good point. like you know but think about that. We're talking about that King Daddy guy.
2:21:25 King Daddy. I mean, podcasts, this is the craziest time ever for podcasts. My major ways are like walking dead, And I can't tell you how many fucking people I've talked to that say, hey, man, listen to your show. guys shoot the shit about shit like we saw it the other day when we were talking about um josh They had good points. him on the podcast every week.
2:24:03 he could figure out how to be himself. God would be hilarious what if you could do stand up like in Yeah, if you do a show in a theater with 1,000 people, cut off and you find out why you got cut off and then you Exactly. Like a giant conference call call but the problem would be like what But that's texting Jerking off simultaneously Oh, yeah. That's coming. Watch. We're supposed to look at each other. From your house. From your living room. Joey could just sit little too wild. That would be so ridiculous. That's coming, though. That's coming.
2:26:12 He gets those little hearts, though. Acid? Have you tried it? They're similar. And they're all the closest to human neurochemistry. That's the weirdest thing ever about drugs, of technological innovation ever Wi-Fi the ability to download songs instantly Everyone's trying to fight this. They're trying to fight that. They're into this. There's so much. Everyone's trying to fight this.
2:29:16 we did that with just one thing. they're in office yeah just everybody has to have a ceremony you get together and you meet with the And be interviewed while you're under too. Homeboy's fake. It's just cheaper if we just fucking Mexican, Peruvian. But you know what? You're going to see guach, my guach. This is what you do. Spontaneous combustion. Like it sounds ridiculous now.
2:32:25 completely different dimension. has nothing to do with where you are. or anybody just getting your body checked out Where's that? The UN tried to impose some shit, and they're like, dude, fuck you. Have you ever thought about, like, if Yellowstone blows up, where are you going to move? side of the road, which would probably be better. is it Very nice
2:34:39 Sydney's really nice Very westernized. You know? You went nuts. So we went to see that Leonardo DiCaprio movie where they trick you, where he pretends it's all a dream. We were like, what the fuck? Like, let's go get drunk. He just bought everybody drinks. It was nuts. We stayed there for hours we were wrecked yeah that was about as drunk as i've ever gotten as a grown man and then uh
2:36:52 Did you see Vitor just take out Dan Henderson again? point there was only one brazilian that could box and it was vitor yeah but murillo could box too and uh i think hemso could box a little bit he had good you know vitor's kicks though they have and he had to take it. versus Vitor Belfort. One of the reasons why it's hard for him to sustain a hard pace without the TRT.
2:38:42 I mean, he doesn't look like a pipsqueak. and then all the way, They don't test? of using steroids, So you can get tested. They do a blood test. like some of these guys, they had a guy that was 25 that was on testosterone replacement. And he doesn't look remotely like the same guy. I mean, he looks like a goddamn, 10 pounds of muscle more. Well, I think Vitor on TRT.
2:41:34 Him and Josh Barnett. I wouldn't expect it, and the testosterone makes them look a little bit better, or shit and the testosterone makes them look a little bit better first of all, is taller. Holy shit. And he beat down Dan Henderson like that. when he was on TRT. So he's more tentative now. He didn't do a single thing for the first two and he's connecting perfectly on Dan Henderson's jaw on that shot. That is a classic picture.
2:44:20 undetectable way to use? Yeah, meanwhile Damn I know, right That was a compliment. If we set it up It's better to have Jamie do it We figure out a rhythm That's for sure? It has to be someone like her, though. There's still some people. and I forget what show it was. We like watching that. That's right. That's the first time Yeah. Do you remember that dude, the Pedro?
2:48:23 He did it with his feet. The Pedro versus Gary Goodridge nut shot. Had Joe Son at side control. God damn. You don't keep your hands up. He might have not remembered it right, honestly. It's actually The Pedro. This is it. Man, I want to know about that guy. When he was young, he was devastating. You know what I mean? Federico La Penda. That was late
2:51:48 Bare Knuckle. Find that. Second name, Marco Huas. This has radically changed. That was World Combat Championships, right? He was a beast, dude. Heath Herring did. Like, I guess actually with that thing above their head, there's this crazy like. Oh, it was a long-ass fight. Look at that fucking chandelier. It's a big fucking difference. There's been a couple of those.
2:55:00 Eve Edwards takes the cake, though. Thug Jitsu master. past weekend, the VTOR. Wow. what guys have to do in order to win the fight And even though he lost some of his fights towards the end, he's he's not a guy that gets hit a lot he's like a big part of what he does is like avoid damage Is there something that you can take out there that's on the black market that just makes your brain healthier?
2:57:23 No, I read that. really recently. She's gone on some wild And during that podcast, you started talking about mushrooms, and you were going off, and you broke it all down. She just went. It's over. And so that will be the weekend after the UFC. It's a 16-man submission-only tournament. Javi Vasquez. in regulation.