Joe Rogan Experience #723 — Dana White & Tony Hinchcliffe Transcript

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0:00 Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out! I'm with Dana White. What's up? be forced to settle in. He was kind of a guy who didn't really train hard, didn't take care of himself. Freddie Roach said Ronda Rousey's going to destroy her. and hammer fisted her when she was out i mean we're all shocked i'm in shock the whole place the way the world went But one of the things about watching women fight was they didn't really knock each other out.

3:18 Everybody knows guys can knock guys out. throws them on her head, arm Holly was stone-faced, never changed her expression. you're like, there's no way something that solid you know ronda's gonna kill her but as i'm outlining it i'm outlining kicks i'm talking realized, even though Holly championship pressure in boxing and kickboxing she's been there man she's been shitting all over

6:30 And she has the distance, the range. the time, but being in the UFC is such an overwhelming experience for fighters that it takes them several fights. Landed that front kick to body, We're on a plane right now. I won't judge you. I'll come back. and it's so hard to be perfect all the time in this sport. You know, it's just not possible for that to happen all the time.

9:02 The amount of work and the time she put in, how Is that your music? if you're aware of someone in a Rolling Stone article, It sucks a lot of energy on you, man. But if there's someone who has to fight and you have preparation, you have to train, Then we needed her to defend her title, and she started to freak out early. It's just people start, you know,

11:36 i never interviewed anybody before and they talked about it like that he said honestly And then you take Ronda and you add movies on top of it. You can get a guy like Floyd Mayweather that figures out how to box people how to kick and we really had seeing her throw a kick i mean if she has maybe one or two ever i mean if you do you remember But that's not Ronda.

14:01 Yeah, I think she did. it doesn't have nearly as much impact. Hitting her with hooks. When Rhonda missed that one time and she turns around and looks, it looked like a scene from a movie. It was, I think, psychologically a huge turning point. but the second round she was already beaten up. And Rhonda came out for that second round already flustered, already.

16:25 I do not like what he did in the corner. She needed someone to tell her what she's doing wrong The thing is now is, you know, what do they do? Oh, well, I assume you bet everything you had then, right? And they parlayed Holly Holm and the college game. 20. Wow. But Holly Holm is a great person too. It's tricky because this is the biggest moment of Holly Holmes' life, and I want to honor that.

19:58 bantamweight champion of the world, Holly Holm. Like, she's a, even though, you know, It's every person that goes in there and competes in the Octagon. Such very, very good people. Valerie Letourneau was, oh, my God. Her eye was massive. I've never seen anything like that. So tough. And against Ioana, who's a fucking killer. She's better than that.

23:16 Don't call her Johanna then. in different interviews now they don't even want to and was throwing punches right up until the bell like she didn't have a broken hand. I mean, Holly and Ronda are the two best in the world in the 135-pound division. try to wrap your head around how big this fight was. Donald Trump, who's running for president, tweeted a nasty tweet

25:00 Ronda was endorsing him for president Adam Hunter posted, Bernie Sanders fight. That's how big this fight was. It's Monday. Well, because it's so stunning because you've seen football a million times. in 2001 when tito ortiz fought vladimir matyushenko and you guys went over the pay-per-view so the whoa. You lost millions. It was so fringe. where he'd do these radio tours,

28:40 Like, I'm glad she's not a good person. Well I don't know who has a chance It's crazy. His daughter is a huge Ronda Rousey fan, She fights. I'm not going to lie, I wanted to see I launched out of my seat. I couldn't help myself. And I felt sort of bad because she kept, Yes. said, did you ever doubt that you could do this? I'm not going to win. when she went into the octagon,

32:13 and the enormity of the moment didn't escape her, Holly was nothing but focused. 100%, no distractions. It was amazing to see. That's how it looked. Oh, yeah. All right. We'll Hugger? Should we do it now? How could it be the whole podcast? Round two, ladies and gentlemen. I haven't seen it yet. Oh, I get it. The bird? Is that what you're saying? I mean, some people get pissed at everything.

35:06 It's true. We live in a world now where everybody gets to have an opinion. this thing will be all fucked up. I have time to kill. What was his complaint? And he says, yeah, apparently a lot of people live under a rock. I'm fluttering my eyes. It's fun for me. My personality, I'm very extreme. You don't even know. if there was something like roasting Tony, if I had to roast Tony on something, what is this, ma'am?

38:48 What is that? But these are like gumdrops. I thought you said it was Molly. Black? He writes the best jokes for roast. You know, there's just different muscles and stuff. It's sort of like, you know, to use an Like one person will tell a joke, and the other person will tell a joke and it's fucking the other person. I can't do that. if you like watching people get slammed in real life,

41:53 He's your guy. perfect guy too because they won't feel like situations that they're not necessarily the best at I think you'd be pretty Yeah. She's the only person that cuts weight by chopping off her dick. But how long do you wait before you think about scheduling a rematch? you know normally she'd probably You don't think she'll want to talk about it immediately?

45:28 Just hang out. in a way i deal with so many different egos and uh personalities and quirky you know yeah without like when I checked into the hotel yesterday they called me Mr. White I'm like we're both bald but Seriously. There's no infrastructure There are some guys on the undercards that I've never even met before. It's like, shit, I don't even want to watch this fight.

48:27 there's a parallel doing commentary And you just somehow or another figured out how to just be Dana White. What we, what we, I don't know, man. I don't know really how to explain it, but I just go in there and was the fight, but you get all these somebody's going to win and somebody's going to lose. We brought Pauly home and Holly Holm stepped up and took the opportunity and won.

51:10 this next fight, I saw the That wasn't the best fight. It's exactly the way it went down. I mean, right now, it's kind of funny because we're in a plane. That's when the party really begins. Kevin Alley's like, against Sarah McMahon because she smashed And even in this fight, she had been tagged with all those fucking straight lefts. She just kept rolling out of it.

54:33 Or is the balance going back to fucking Rocky IV? get back to the drawing board, hard worker when she was the best in the world what's she gonna be like now that she lost and And their second fight Well, no. We brought in like the best plastic surgeon from australia last night he came in late last night sewed her lip up and her and my wife is on the phone going fucking crazy.

57:35 Yeah. said, I don't want a doctor, I want a plastic surgeon he calls in this plastic surgeon um they go to the hospital um they had to ever met Dr. Shu. He's a tall Asian guy with glasses. He is the man when it comes to, he What the fuck did you do to that dog? what the fuck man wanted that ice cream When you have food there, You guys circle jerking? Oh, hello, fellas. We're doing a podcast right now. Bunch of... Sorry to interrupt you. Sorry.

1:00:20 and there's actually a lounge upstairs where people can hang out in the lounge. That's right. This is not a room. Well, how did it become... It's from iPods, right? Yeah. Everybody else just does it in a room. Apple knows how to get their branding in everywhere. We flew her straight to L.A., and she went and saw the best plastic surgeon in L.A., and we got her nose fixed.

1:01:43 I've seen snowmen with better noses than this. Great fighter. to look after. It's about healing. Whatever is right. I got to close this hole. I have to, Probably, And it might not even work I'm just making shit up. Sent Robbie Lawler to a guy who fixed his lip. that and make sure that it heals in a nice, thin, clean line like that. My friend John What's that?

1:04:35 No. Oh, they didn't offer you that? I've had two. even though it's all fake. You're the only one that keeps making it look. Exactly. you have been able to grow this thing and i guess that's really like it's mind-blowing because you Even Triple H. people can hate and people can say reason and one reason only that they bet on Would you like to go up to the business class?

1:07:46 You can flip backwards? Totally. She was trying to strong arm us up to the lounge Really? Isn't it like 10 in the morning or something? That's their fucking problem I wake up, it's 5 in the morning. I don't like it. with that smoke, You had a sleeping pill? And these people were walking, It was dangerous to the point where I was ready to start a fucking stampede.

1:10:23 what the fuck is this? I don't know if I was snoring like a beast or what happened to me. whacked out but I'll just work out Got it. so I don't know if she got out or not. Oh, yeah. But I would just imagine People don't really understand or appreciate how fucking tough these human beings really and what's crazy about it, he said that it was the greatest night of his life.

1:13:00 You know how many people can actually become a top three fighter in the fucking world? a big pedestal, they deserve to be, but The 85-pound division is weak. Yeah, you fucking kill yourself. I knew what the fuck that is. That's the Recognize who you are Is because you're a cunt and go out and fight in front of millions of people them cool people if manny pacquiao knocked, you know, if one of those guys knocked him dead,

1:16:20 I'll be back for at least one more fight, especially when Manny Pacquiao starts talking about coming back. Those people are fucking dangerous for you, though. But one of the best parts about it is Teddy Atlas said, And he's talented. Friends that were there to try to boost his ego up. He really took it to another level. All that stuff is marketing.

1:18:42 And then your body starts giving out. You're trying to win. night after the fight. episodes of it last night i laid in bed and watched five fucking episodes back to back i'm like or you start to hate them you say that i if you hear what i called it fake that time i had every crazy lunatic pro wrestling And the other time was when I said It's Y-O-U apostrophe R-E, fucks.

1:21:30 He didn't mean any disrespect. They do a different arena every night. They're on the road like 330 days a year. That's why a lot of them have pain pill problems. Just like the best people to deal with. And so he went through his therapy, and he's coming back now. Just do it. Dwayne Ludwig told me he did that. Peter? make you feel younger, sex life, all these other things.

1:24:33 they've been testing on this 10-year-old rat. that makes you regenerate collagen again don't take't take the fucking, you know, I can't give you the scientific explanation of it, plastic surgery and all this stuff, the Nevada State Athletic Commission was allowing testosterone use exemption. now they pulled out they pull the testosterone use exemptions back.

1:26:51 and not because of his age, because he has some type of pituitary or something like that. No, that's the problem. So, and not to mention the fact that if you have something good, when testosterone first Well, they are on steroids. In the rematch, Bigfoot's off the testosterone replacement. He also just seemed a little bit slow to come up the stairs.

1:29:10 because he dropped a lot of weight training. Good stuff. It's everything. and moving her hand towards her a little bit? Yeah. Does somebody have trying to get the mental edge? When we were in whatever, they were both and i was like god and you asked her and Johanna wasn't She's a demon. Both of them. Absolutely. I put Ioana is fucking nasty and skillful.

1:34:05 because I say I need a woman that'll keep me in line. Johanna. I mean, I'm telling you. Just call her But she is. the exchange in the second round when Ronda was tired and she slipped And then when you think about shaking out the rest of that 135-pound division, you pair up any way you want amanda cat misha juliana pena And then Evander Holyfield came along and knocked out Buster Douglas.

1:36:36 2015, that it's just head and shoulders above everybody. It's barely the same sport. And the Or, you know, but like, I'll even watch, it's a straight shot of adrenaline inspiration. All of a sudden I'm writing harder And also now, one of the things that we've said many times and I was doing well, but in 86, when I went to watch the best guys on the planet, I came back

1:39:09 when they have the memory They'll go take spin classes. They'll go run up hills. They'll wake up in the morning and they'll go to their fucking yoga class inspired. You know, they'll go take spin classes. he caught it and it was over and i'm sorry but ronda was fighting with pure ego yesterday her But unlike Anderson, or unlike Ronda rather, Anderson didn't have all these movie offers.

1:41:09 Are you guys going to do Vitor versus Anderson? Is Vitor into that? Do you think there'll ever be a time when marijuana is allowed in the UFC? You can do whatever you want. that had him below the threshold, And that's why he's going to do well in that deal. Five years when you're 20 I mean, or if it hasn't been lifted, their lifetime ban of him has been thrown out by a judge.

1:43:38 I mean, it's not like he can go back to work right now, but if they just banned him or That's crazy. But it's also very important And it's bad for them because it makes them look bad. Let them know what you think about it. I was like, I'm not helping anybody. A million bucks. You know what I mean? things where like if you're in college and you study for a test high, that you should take the test high.

1:46:39 I'm just saying that I've heard this before and that it sort of makes sense to me. so i don't know maybe like i don't know maybe he trains high so he feels like he has to fight high I know. I'd rather do jiu-jitsu with a guy who's sober than a guy who's high. Super, super common. But if you get a guy like Vitor and then you bring him to that doctor and he does some wacky shit to his body and all of a sudden he's got both.

1:49:21 You have someone slam dunking on you. Yeah, it is. So all these people that have these chronic ailments goes away. when they use a carbon isotope test they can tell that the testosterone that's in your body Yes, that is nuts. of I mean, that's incredible. there was a lot of performance-enhancing drug use. culture of the sport transition to you know as clean as you can get it

1:53:31 No one's begging you to do this and they say, hey, Friday is going to be a test. yeah we're going to spend five million dollars a year in testing and in testing it could completely training when in in many professional sports but they have protocols that are pretty clearly Oh, nothing. It's weird. or someone who trains at AMC Pancration. see you later, come back, go do your surgery and all your stuff and come back and let us know when you're ready to play again.

1:56:56 the best in the world rehab facility. It's going to be insane. you have to go through the physical he fought the Chad Mendes And he did some in California, too. are you going to establish strength and conditioning protocols too? right there's so much to learn you know i mean there's a lot of coaches like edmund is a good For every guy like GSP that thinks you have to use gymnastics, there's certain guys like

2:00:00 I'm hoping he straightens his head out and comes back because we want to talk about just a spectacular talent is nothing short of amazing I mean, you look at, like you said, He keeps powerlifting. And, you know, we were talking about inspiration. We did another hour and 27 minutes. Like I said, changing the game. Tony Hinchcliffe. Anything you want to say?

2:02:24 The Eddie had a gross record. gross record, the gate record, Would you try to do it for UFC 200 in July? That's the end.