Joe Rogan Experience #734 — Brendan Schaub Transcript

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0:00 E-ha! And we're live! I haven't been getting high and working out. but when i was um when i was in the cloud usually the class like 90 minutes it's rough And I didn't know it was 90 minutes. I was like, yeah, 60 minutes. I was like, God. no water just saying it's him I'm telling you I agree. Ever. Okay, whatever, bro. For real, so I don't give a fuck.

2:52 It takes my mind off what's going on. It's almost like a car wash for your brain. in santa monica when i first got there i'm literally no one talked to me they're like They're racist against real men. They're my friends. like a factory that produces hot chicks with towels under their arm. Oh, to everyone. That's annoying. You know what's weird? Yeah, there's this guy that goes to my class, and I admire him.

5:28 That's kind of awesome. Bandana. He's in there grinding. Like if I fall, everyone's going to be like, look at this asshole. She looks like she's Indian. I think they like dollar Mende Indian. Okay. You know who dollar Mende is? No. No? You don't? they like to be defined that way. I think they like Dollar Mende, Indian. And he's like this Indian pop star guy.

7:28 yes no the music and um right there and then give me some volume here we go Look at this guy. Come on, how awesome is this? I'm sure he has some other hits. What's it called? He was talking about that guy saying, what's he going to do do now it's like it's over for him i'm like how A huge ingredient, though. or one album, and then, then you know fame comes the tour

10:45 How dare you? You ever seen, you ever go to band practice and watch those guys go over songs? Maybe, but you can't. That's what it is. There's rules. There's rules of perception. You know the guy who doesn't give a fuck has never given a fuck But musicians, to me, it's so in this kind of outer space world because I've never been musically gifted ever.

12:36 You know, they just know how to do it. I think there's probably some safer alternatives finally gets uh sober and she's kind of doing right the right things and then her manager and thing you know he he got he got sober and then he went through this It's the temptation right like Yeah, big difference. like a physical addiction, like a physical addiction.

15:55 I know it's true. No, not at all. But like if I go on vacation, I don't take weed with me. Go on a little journey. I feel like you're the harsh working guy I know. Comedy is the most fun. It's being literally the best seat in the house watching the best fighters in the world. And we're broadcasting, too. So like this weekend, I can't tell you how many times when I was at Fox, I'll see you at the fights.

17:55 And that's people, You're not focusing on the thing that's closest to you. So you're over the cage. And you can see every punch that lands to the face. And I'm fucking right there. So you hear those whack you know like we'll play some shots sometimes like we're gonna play this back It's like unless you're right there, it's hard to hear. I hate staying in hotels because of the stress of fight week.

21:23 playing basketball with his head ba-boom ba-boom ba-boom and it was sinking in oh It looked like he was going to lose to Chael Sonnen. Like, am I seeing this? Like, you just realize. There's nothing live. When they have fights in high altitude. Then they go put Mark Hunt with Fabrizio in Mexico City, which is 2,000 feet above Denver. You know, gets beaten down

23:48 all his gambling. Look at him. I hear that, There's going to be a lot of betting. And if Fabricio Verdum wants to fight in Brazil, How rude. Did you see that bizarre fight? He's taller than Klitschko. He's very I think the shit talking got to him. He's been through the ringer. Then Klitschko? No, not Corey Anderson. No one's been able to do it for 10 years. Yeah, I mean look

26:53 And you know who everybody's ducking? And he's got a wicked left hook to the body. cory sanders that's who it is thank you um pull up uh the last fight shannon briggs last fight The way Niki throws it, too, it's like he gets you thinking about these head punches But why don't you bring it back to the beginning, Jamie, so we can watch from the beginning.

28:43 That's exactly what I was looking for. The whipping fluidity to his punches. That guy he's fighting, he got straight off the bus. Vitaly Klitschko beat him up. Good for him, man. before he's too old. You know, he's 43. It's going to be tough I'm a fan. I am too. I want to see him get a shot before he's too old. Yeah, that would be interesting. He looked good.

30:20 If I'm Canelo's camp, you're not fighting Triple G next. He's dangerous as fuck. It went big. he's like he's a dangerous he's right no he's ready to go yeah he's ready to fight anyone in Yeah. they are an added element that Cotto has to consider that he didn't have to consider with Cotto. Cotto's thing, even if he was landing, Cotto's tiny. He's a big boy.

33:14 30 fights you know i'm saying like they've had a lot of experience they're ready for that next step Well, that's also but like at least What's that face? We'll see. you didn't call the run to fight either you idiot We need a new word. Yeah. I mean, he looks like he could just be the lead singer of a boy band right now. someone from NSYNC fucked an American Eagle.

35:34 Every girl wants to get with him. They're pretty hot. They just assume that his dad has this weird past that Sage is on some shit. Yeah. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Those guys are tough to hang out with. Does he really? He looks at the camera. He's hey everybody he's just like jesus sets it down well Hey, check this out, everyone. Girl sticking her ass out.

38:27 Or Tyson Fury can say, fuck it. And they will, fuck it. or he can go to Golden With the UFC, it's the UFC. But this is what I'm saying. They can't fine her. I'm just saying if, let's say, if I'm Jon Jones or if I'm Ron. And I'm saying with Holly. They want to make it the biggest fucking UFC the world has ever known. arena that's opening up in Vegas in

40:54 it's them. I'm not saying that. I'm saying previously Yes and no. Watch how many pay-per-views Holly vs. Misha sells. She has everything going for her. she showed character, and she never cracked. How is it going to happen? Holly Holm could be a fucking monster. out. If she gets in there and fights Then, when Ronda's ready to come back and she's 100% healed and healthy

43:40 I'm saying no, because this all sounds great You're crazy. I think it would be an interesting fight. Holly, Ronda is your money fight. got the strap and Holly and Ronda go at it in a five-rounder, that shit would still be Don't you think that, because I don't think Ronda has three or four fights left in her. She goes, if I were to lose to Holly, I'm done.

45:39 is holly i think i think july is uh is gonna to be tricky if ronda's telling if she's honest or I have no idea. If you think she's going to beat her by grappling, you're full of shit. she could catch her with something. It's very Okay. Well, she was down in this fight, but it was really, she was on top. You just have to avoid it What's the best tactical, technical approach to fighting someone who is as talented a striker as Holly?

48:40 100%. from one of the best kickboxers in the female Bantamweight division? That is actually an interesting matchup. fights, she gets those hands in front of you and then whack, that fucking left high kick Oh the outside pressure. They should say they should stop and think about what the fuck they're doing no I didn't see that she got cracked by that first punch and she's basically on survival instincts.

51:18 Johnson fight perfect example you fought a fucking scary dude and you fought so that's how tj grant got his concussion same exact way yeah people don't realize that like watch my fights back. Oh my God, I'm different. I go straight back to the cage, hands down. Head trauma. And what are the issues? Fuel for the fire. He was in the goddamn driver's seat, and everybody else, you've got to wait with your fucking warm, wet towel to wash his balls,

54:35 It's like Holly, right? Holly's not on the front cover of ESPN, the magazine. she's the number one story no ron no the girl who knocked out ronda is the number one story Other than Aldo and McGregor And she should get more notoriety you know attitude about her and comes out to that joan jett song and was beating girls asses and were happy when ronda lost there's all this extra reality TV shit that's going on with a Ronda Rousey.

57:22 I agree. I don't know about that, man. But she's a great person. That's what you want. She looks spectacular. what if Kat was able to stuff the takedown and turn Hell yeah, she's a badass. See, I think, and they're all so close in the women's division at 135. For us, the media needs a dominant champion, man. Respectfully, I agree. If Holly goes out and face kicks Tate in the first round, then gets Kat Zingano and drops her,

1:00:17 But is she? shut her down. So now Holly Holly Holm, she's gangster. If I'm Scrooge McDuck, Dana White? Would you? Is he one of these guys saying, oh, you just need to fight her again, get healthy, and you're going to beat her? That should be the plan. evidence that she could have So there's no evidence that Ronda could have done better. The left hand goes for the clinch.

1:04:10 There's technical issues. Manny Pacquiao got knocked out by Juan Manuel Marquez. Well, look at Freddie Roach. He looked great. punishment. He doesn't have time to have a perspective like you and I do either. What's the move? Okay, that is probably the worst result if you want women to get into MMA So if that happens again and she suffers serious repercussions,

1:07:14 You know sure in the reaction the public's eye absolutely when you're chasing after a striker that shit is never a good idea at someone whose body's optimized you would say well here's a girl who uh has a minimal amount That probably had something to do with it. It's life and death. Yes. Exactly. And we talked about it, and I said, look, dude, where I think jiu-jitsu is almost like never-ending as far as techniques.

1:09:56 There's so much going on, man, that if you think that you're just going to go in there with some bullshit guy who holds the pads and uses those pool floaties so you get to dictate where the fight takes place. I mean, you know Gonzaga's fighting, I think, tonight or tomorrow night. Yeah, he's on the undercard. Jesus Christ Hey 35 fights in 3 days For sure just text Dana.

1:11:47 It's a Christmas weekend for fighters. He's a big fucking tough Russian guy. You know, I wonder if he's just making a living or if he wants to reassess. your boy mitrione look really good against him you look great I see him in Starbucks eating two glazed donuts. cool story he caught shane and had him hurt and he moved in for the kill yeah took shane down i was

1:13:51 He hit so fucking hard. beat Brock Lesnar. big boys, those freak Would you worry about NFL with head collisions and all that shit? So it's just different. That's nice. You think so? They're trying their best. of competition. And Bellator to fight if they want to fight the same as the UFC right now Debra Melendez. we're gonna see the concussion it's really then people are like dude what are we doing and the

1:17:50 I mean, man, has enough time, and she stiffens up and just falls straight back like Terry Edom. for a long time. It's not the shot than if you had just gotten a concussion. But a lot of times that happens in camp like before I fought Rothwell like weeks before Carlin fucked me up man That's why whenever MMA math people try saying, So that doesn't work for me. So what was wrong with Machida?

1:20:27 I think everyone did. Is that where it was? Yeah, because we were all training together, and then he was like, dude, I got to fight Machida. Yeah. And is it, you know, Jose Al has been on the feed for 10 years. It's like, oh, it's not the same Joe's that we've seen. He crushed his leg and beat him down and knocked out Chad Mendes in their first fight. But if you look at the Ricardo Lamas fight, Lamas had him on his back in the fifth round.

1:22:14 I think 45 is more stacked than Mighty Mouse. Super athletic and dangerous as fucking. If you want to talk about pound for pound, who's going to rip everyone's face off is Jon Jones. And he's like, cool, let's fight heavyweight. And then they start lifting weights. He was just a small guy who had really good technique. See, Shinkawa and myself are a little different.

1:24:16 Especially if you fight a guy like Junior Dos Santos. Dos Santos over him next week. So I don't know, man. A lot of variables, dog. You might have been on some shit. That's a huge X factor. And he's an absolute animal. There's no way unless people get caught. Hey, real quick, just for all the listeners out there, that's never happened. I think it's got to have happened once.

1:26:32 It is possible that if you were at a bad gym and you're hanging around with a bunch of Some crazy guy. That would be such a bummer. You know, it's like actually going into a van that says free candy. This card tomorrow is pretty good. That's a motherfucker. He's dangerous. He's gonna have to deal I'll tell you what, man. I've never seen anything like it.

1:29:09 I remember like literally I had to like readjust my metric when I was judging it, like watching what's a fast kick and what's not a fast kick. in the fight with Paul Felder we saw like the best version of Barboza we've ever seen. I'm telling you, man, it's some another level shit, man. Texting me. me caught voicemails And I've been listening, and then Mark Henry says he's working with Weidman.

1:31:14 That's interesting. What do you think about What do you think of that? For him, well, first of all, they came in at different levels of striking. It does not get any better than that. every time it's never the same so nobody could get it no one can get it it's Just striking. And Weidman, when I break down the tape, he just has this X factor that I don't think Luke has.

1:33:33 on it, if that makes sense. I know it sounds weird. where Vitor had Weidman stunned, he nailed him a couple times, double, got to hold those legs tight, and Kane and Rockhold's just No, and then walked into AK when he was super young. He's been training with Marcelo Garcia forever. He controlled Vitor Belfort on the ground like you've never seen. he doesn't make mistakes.

1:36:06 I can see these guys fighting two or three times, talking about a trilogy. Something has to happen for people to recognize how great he is. Maybe next time. do is get him riled up. you get one hell of a Jose Aldo. He's got a nasty right hand. approach and his, That's exactly what I was going to say. Chad took him down and held him down and was landing some nasty ground and pound with essentially no camp.

1:39:22 And he is a monster on the ground. He's doing all these weird angles. and all of a sudden he's got your back, Conor comes in like a serpent with all his slippery movement. of his face. Jose's never been a fight Not even close. He's gotten a lot of attention in Brazil. He'll go straight back and he does get hit. He's big too, man. to take Brimage out.

1:41:37 And I think after, let's say, Conor wins that fight, his toughest matchups are looming. That's a fucking fight, son. I'm also rooting for Dos Anjos. But when I watch those two fight, I'm a fan of both those guys. When I was fighting, and I never forget this stuff. Took me to gyms, made sure I was cool. Cowboy's my boy. Yeah. No, I get it. So it's tough, man. I'm always biased. Don't like talking to him. He's always a very friendly guy. Cowboy and I are from Denver. Same team. Cowboy's my boy.

1:43:11 I feel you. fractions of a second just fractions of a second constantly Yeah. He takes a good shot, and he's really fucking sneaky with his Muay Thai very sneaky and off his back man Like you saw that Nate Diaz fight. He's like, right there, right there, right there, bang! A lot of them like that. We didn't even talk about this. We're talking about a different night.

1:46:28 So what I'm saying, folks, if you don't know what we're talking about, Yeah, but I mean, I kind of think that Conor's anticipated that, It's stunning. I know. I hope I'm wrong. I hope I hope i'm wrong every other fight on that card is ridiculous i think just style wise i just don't Is it possible? As far as, you know, celebrated, true, traditional jiu-jitsu, Damian Maia's a motherfucking monster.

1:48:21 Yes. Oh, see all these X factors, son? Yoel Romero has the best body that has ever walked on earth like He is cheat up. Who looks better than that? Straight up. to choke people unconscious. I mean, Because he just gets But he's got so much faith in that fast twitch muscle fiber, too. How about worried about knuckle sandwiches? Time is not on his side. No, especially not

1:50:43 the scale at the weigh-ins where he had disc surgery. He's just a freak, man. Whoa! Yeah. How do you pronounce it? Jeremy Stevens and Max Holloway. He's young, talented. take a picture, though. Jeremy Stevens has some fucking dynamite in his hands. Like, he is just a fucking ball of knockout. That whole card. How about that fight? Bermudez is a motherfucker. Bermudez fight, how about that? How about that fight?

1:53:20 People forget that. McGregor's some motherfucker for them to get down. Yeah. He's the champ. This beautiful female combat sports champion He's going to be the fucking Mac Daddy. Nope. fight someone else. Who? Is it this long stance with these crazy weird movements and throwing in traditional martial arts techniques? Wild shit. Right, but there's never been a guy like Conor before, and the UFC's been fine.

1:56:17 I don't think so. Whenever you talk about money, like, I ain't Scrooge McDuck. You saw Rockhold get wheel kicked. You know, there's part of me that all this... Because Bisbing's left eye is why not. Especially if you can achieve hyperhuman levels and maintain them. Super fucking genetic spell like like Yoel Romero like this is one of the things that wide moon was yelling at vitor because when vitor's blood work

1:59:46 it by the book and doing it totally not you, your body gets broken down by training and it takes You know what the thing is, though? No, you take all the steroids you want and try hitting that many home runs. It's a different kind of confidence. 265 shredded. See if you can find that fight online. i love bad harry i hate to throw him under the bus i hate to as well so let's just leave it at that.

2:02:03 Brock's throwing leg kicks. Ooh, and over him just barely missed God damn it. That's so crazy. He's keeping him at bay. He goes, oh, you have a bad gut? That flat top ain't helping nobody. fight that i remember watching like three or four times in a row. Yeah, I mean, it makes you think like, I get it. Yep. Boom. The one that went right under Oh, yeah, 100% but I think that's what all just TRT

2:05:06 diverticulitis It's interesting how different a guy becomes when you take that stuff away from him. We get to see their movements. I agree. yeah it was like the way I described like a football pool that had like one That's the world we live in, though. that's always a signal to me like well I know but something changes and it ain't I mean, creatine.

2:08:05 I agree. What about HGH? You could have taken half of his time away from the sport and he could be fighting sooner. It has to be more stringent. If it turned out that she had tested positive after that fight, good Lord, all the hate yeah dude i know girl jujitsu competitors they're taking testosterone they don't even get paid that hadn't done anything that was a woman.

2:10:57 100%. Always. She's looking pretty fucking good. You look at her, and she's such a freak now. She lost all the body fat shred She's shredded who the fuck has ever done that before gone from being like really fat and overweight forever and just In Japan, she's on Rizin. Googly moogly. She's huge. Jiu-Jitsu. Jiu-Jitsu. He slammed him because Marcelo was backpacking him.

2:13:48 This technique. He lied on his visa to get in there, I binge watch. He's knocking motherfuckers out. It's a crazy fucking week, and no one's even talking about Chad Mendes and Frankie Edgar. Yeah. I had lunch with him. They get in there, they're all discombobulated by the time they get in there with him. Hey, bro. Mark Hunt. Like, they're just, they're built better.

2:16:39 He was made to fight, man. to Bigfoot? Ryzen. if they were nice, He can weigh whatever he wants. Perhaps. You can't do that anymore. of punches that he landed on Overeem You know I'm saying that we don't have that Bigfoot for sure after your walking papers and go fight fade or and get all saying Fedor Milonenko with That's what Pride always did. That's right.

2:19:12 People will buy that. It'll get a million. and go back to 2002. What they need to do is pay Benson a shitload of money and get him to go over there. He's fun to watch. enough to take a risk and leave the ufc because who knows if they're even going It's like someone inside the company is trying to sabotage it After hours The teachers are printed What the fuck is Anderson Aldo saboteur and he's going into the database and changing things after hours

2:21:09 he's like Adidas owns them Reebok get the deal, then they sabotaged the company I choose like there's some guys like, you think I can make Just get fans who are fans of the sport And instead, they just basically, they didn't even spell the names right on all of them. Reebok, do whatever the fuck you want, but by signing this deal, now we look like dumbasses.

2:22:47 If you want to appeal. Have you seen one? They put a US, American flag on Conor McGregor's shit. I got a fucking Conor McGregor shirt. And you don't, I mean, this has been this historical dispute between the north and south don't worry, we'll figure it out. Give me 500 grand. Brandon would be in quotes. Do your own shit, man. drink coffee out of the fighter and the kid mug yeah it's it's hard for a fighter to establish

2:25:39 They're not even aware because everybody's just concentrating on the fight game. How are you going to make money? once and I got like six grand. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? People who sign up for jujitsu, especially in California, It's a little different animal. Do you know anything about combat sports Academy the CSA? And set up training programs

2:28:08 Because Onnit does that too, though, a little bit, right? Right. You know, like Pavel does a bunch of them, a bunch of different kettlebells. to people so they can teach it to other people. And once That's a motherfucker. There should be a ton of people in there. So I think his gym is both a strength and conditioning gym and a Muay Thai gym. Yeah. Even running a fucking 24-hour fitness or a LA fitness or something like that.

2:30:17 It's so competitive. He might be just breaking even, yeah. They go from the college system into the NFL. I know. It is tough. And they give them, you know, they set them up. Yep. 50 is a lot. Was Johnny like, fuck this, man, it's too much money? 100%, right? You found out that TJ just moved to Muscle Farm. Okay, you're making moves. Yep. No. Yeah. Some local gym in Dallas

2:33:54 I don't know. I wouldn't want to change his fucking sheets Like fucking Spiderman Eyes, future, acting, modeling gigs. only fight so much i mean that's always possible that is always possible man i mean look you have Holla. And that's super profitable. You talk about whatever the fuck you want. He's 19. Yeah, maybe. When you see that, I mean, and that's what we kind of missed with the Ronda Rousey thing.

2:36:52 Yeah. That's why I think he goes I've been offered movie TV deals he goes I do not care about that there's For the rest of the world. I know Rhonda's not materialistic, but when you say work out, if you're talking about bank account, yeah, she's fine. She's pretty frugal for someone who's very wealthy. she fought Holly but now it's like well this is the whole fucking game board has

2:39:27 They're going to be fine. It's so shallow that you've got Paige Van Zandt, Is that what she's ranked? Rose's like two and three or something. But there's not a lot of those in that division. Gotta fight that demon. I heard, I'm not breaking news, I love the fight. drama. I want to watch That's a rumor I heard. It's from a legit do some damage motherfucker do some damage yes robert whittaker same thing i was like oh okay

2:42:18 But probably no one right now. All those things. then you kind of have a huge following and then you're in the ufc and can have a couple build-up It was like, Jesus Christ. Felipe Novo. Well, you know, I think it's hard to judge when you're watching people that are fighting people that aren't that good. Like a fainting goat thing? Oh, dude. What? That's a great fight.

2:45:14 And he's an Albuquerque guy outside Why am I drawing a blank? Chiesa. I was fucked up. I know. I Miller's a good one. Oh, yeah. Chiesa. Chiesa. Kaylee Caron. It's almost like- Yeah? Guy's got some great tattoos. Are you going? Eddie thinks it starts, I don't know. I'll go for sure. Maybe it starts at 5. Let's talk about it. I'll find out what time it starts. Yeah, 3 or 4, Eddie thinks it starts. I don't know.

2:47:00 If you're thinking about going. jujitsu, even if you've never competed, you never trained, this is the one to go to. Because, first of all, it's like a great bunch of killers that are inside the brackets, including they battle it out, they have a certain time limit, And at first I was like, boy, I don't know about that. And if you want, you might be able to still get a couple of tickets for the Orpheum,

2:49:17 We out of time yet? We broke it down. out in advance. So get on