Joe Rogan Experience #738 — Molly Crabapple Transcript

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0:00 Dude, I'm so happy to be here. About two years. No characters, no dialogue, you know, simple narrative. you know everybody i mean it's it's it's really strange when you go back and talk to people that And she recalled it one way. It was a psychedelic drug talk. And then he just sort of stopped talking to us. Let me give you a movie now. You know, you peeled it out.

3:48 Oh, God, like seven drafts. Yeah, they all say that. and you have to figure out what to chop off. Oh, God. from paris that i did when i was a teenager some stuff from occupy but But I would say like over 100 of them I did new for the book. I was a really horrible person to be around for quite a few months. So I didn't bring any of my fun books that I like to read.

6:35 You actually have to write this book living entirely on coffee and just made it. That was how I did it. Exactly. working on your your great work except whenever i'm actually there i want to like dig holes in And it's really cool because the guy is very good at describing what he felt and what it Being in solitary things makes you go crazy. guards doing um beating people up and being racist in this prison in PA.

10:11 That's hilarious. They call it rioting. I really hope their trial goes well in February. But as part of it, you know, I spent a lot of time talking to two of the guys. Like three years, I think, right? When she was in there, right? she was a um a hazard to herself or something like that? of circumstances someone who is a soldier who transitioned to becoming a woman and then sends

13:39 I mean, you could say that they did what they did was treasonous. But what they're doing, though, is so horrible because they're making it so that no one ever does anything like this again. I watched a bizarre Putin video today. of walking that's indicative of someone who has But what's really bizarre about Let's play it, Jamie, And he always does this.

16:26 But what's kind of creepy is about it. Back it up to the beginning again jamie please um what's creepiest about is he's managed to keep it together for a long, long, long time. Yeah, he has them gunned down. I mean, I always think about there is a very respected journalist whose last name I won't pronounce because I'll butcher it. It's a podcast called the TED Radio Hour, which I listen to all the time,

19:17 It erupted and it fucked up all the flights out of Europe. Is that his name? who was talking about what it was like when he was there, And it is pretty, pretty trippy stuff. Yeah. who are close to him. you're probably on a list. Probably on a list for having you right here. It's sort of like a badge of courage to be on some sort of a list. There's going to come a time where this electronic barrier that we have in between each other,

23:28 Was that a concern when you were writing this book? Oh, that's really cool. right, especially if you're kind of the more famous one. That's got to be weird. what do your parents do? Thank you so much. You got Matt Taibbi to review this. Matt's work is that a lot of journalists like they're like these really like narrow professional Soviet Union falling. Those two things were not incompatible at all. I always like people like

28:02 completely without flavor, most people will never even be able to sink into it at all. Today on CNN, Matt Taibbi, uncover. I have a spin class at 9 o'clock. And it's just like, almost like it's too much for people. Yeah, I agree. And that was basically, and the reason stuff. But still, you know, kidnapping is a terrible, terrible thing. And when the scariest

31:37 have an ak like they'd be holding like sticks and stuff um there were well there was a like what i thing that i i ever did in my life but it all turned out fine and we got to the media office But I think the most personally disturbing thing was I was in Gaza six months ago, I guess. and there's the bed and there's all the stuff abandoned room. And there's like an old guy there, you know, hanging out. And, you know,

34:30 But one of the things that I always try to remember is that the apocalypse is already here. Azaz. And he was this Iraqi Kurdistan. Last time I was with Dr. Scott Borders there. And he, And you're not allowed to ever improve your circumstances because you have the wrong passport. Well, there's this big push in America now Especially among the Republicans to not allow anyone from Syria to come into the United States

37:38 Smashing cars. I feel almost like someone's Billion people? Or for the same reason why Matt Taibbi's articles never really got as popular as I thought they should. You sit home. And you just drink yourself into a coma, wake up in the morning, do it all over again. We're gonna get in a fucking stupid boat and make it across this giant body of water were born on the wrong patch of dirt. And I'm not saying they shouldn't be checked. You shouldn't

41:56 really well listen thank you for going over there if it wasn't for people like you and and you know It gets cold there. that dress up like the guys that I think a lot of people maybe don't realize, especially in the Middle East, like how internet connected people are. could like talk to your brother that was in one country and your daughter that was in

44:25 I got excited it came out. You sound like my uncle. York came out. Oh, fuck. It's coming out, man. I tried so hard. I got excited it came out. On this podcast that have downloaded it from the internet. Donald Trump thing. I had a signing last night, so I unfortunately I missed the intellectual glory fuckers are occupying they got rid of private internet access in people's homes because they're

46:23 Yeah. That's fascinating. members that were in Turkey and there are plenty of other citizen journalists there does it make sense ideologically like within their religion is that something that they believe in if they were like, oh man, this is good PR. Let's keep milking this one. You think so? I think so, yeah. because they're scared of being killed by chicks i mean like the the women who are fighting isis

48:44 Only women going after ISIS Well, especially in Afghanistan, right? So they do it strategically. And like there are, I mean, the majority of Raqqa is, they're like farmers who couldn't afford to get out because it's expensive to even get out of Syria. Look what happened in Afghanistan. Like, what's the on that we need to sacrifice American lives over there? Exactly. Like, what's the cause of all this?

52:20 It's just hard to imagine that someone's capable of doing shit like that. I mean, it's like the father is very often like a thuggish military guy. Yeah. can get to that place that a person can get to that place where they it, in the weirdest way, we're flexible in a beautiful way. maim and brutalize and murder and and they could do it wantonly and do it with no for no real

55:17 cave people that cannibalize because they didn't have books they didn't understand it was bad and He's like, to me, he's like one of my favorite people because he's like this beautiful manifestation of, like, experiencing, like, friendship and love from these people and then just becoming incredibly dedicated to try to take care of them. We're so weird.

57:07 You know, meanwhile, there's terrible, terrible things coming from that is funny right you can always look at like saddam hussein's kids and like new coinages to describe to describe, you know, old behavior. And the truth is, I do think people random women whores on Twitter. And it kind of freaks me out sometimes. Like, I have friends that I'm almost too close to them.

59:43 It's just a matter of time. Yeah. You fucking bitch. I read your bullshit. I don't, like, I get a lot of, like, as I'm sure you do. it's the real 1% that we should be concerned with. only 1% of them would be evil cunts. Like it keeps going. ended. Yeah, you'll try to find it. They can't help it. It's like they people just love to dig they just love to fucking reach

1:02:57 Like, why do I have to put them all in their mom's basement? Yeah. And I think what he did was dishonorable. Yeah. He admits that. He's pretty open about the fact that he fucked up and that he made some that really tore shit down. respond to this and you could have a communication, it would be a different thing. Like what it is, I mean, the world should see it. Like, matt taivi's exposes on the financial collapse brilliant brilliant

1:06:13 Haters gonna hate, hate, hate. But I'm embarrassed that I'm like that's okay you can play that one I like that one cool that's awesome but I'm embarrassed that I like it no no it just it shows like diverse musical tastes that's all I definitely have that sometimes too diverse you know but um I don't know how we got they're going to dissolve slowly,

1:07:36 And he, like, made seven Twitter accounts at one point to, like, tell her she was a cunt. going to happen and some you know it did and there's no one's going to be sympathetic to from being able to read each other's thoughts oh god can you imagine yeah it's going to be very or you get that phone call out of the blue from someone There's going to be no, you know,

1:10:07 It's fun as long as it works out. Obviously, it's worked out for you. You're a young woman. You already have a book published. You have many, many, many, many art pieces published. You have journalism things that you've done. It's worked out for you, all this romance. But for some people, this is not happening for them. But is what we are as human beings

1:11:31 got right now, like, oh, this, the romance of not knowing and you know, it's amazing and it all now if you have a cell phone like once you get from Turkey to Greece, like, really, like, disgusting, nasty business. Jesus. Yeah. is what this is where we are right now. in a way that only he can because he's independently wealthy and he's not bound to the wishes of his constituents.

1:14:59 Did you ever interview him back before this? And like the Emirates, the average salary of an Emirati is I think it's like 60,000 a year, I think. From the Emirati PR firm that was there. What did they say? That's not an appropriate question. And like Ivanka's mouth went all small. Yeah. And it's like this wave of people that hate him in that whole construction business. I don't know who's right and who's wrong about those disputes,

1:17:52 few years ago like maybe six or seven years ago nice there was a um a camp that they went to and not only do they reduce their salaries, they just don't pay them. Like, and can you imagine like and step into these things and go skiing in the middle of summer in these gigantic buildings they make. you could fly indoors like i shouldn't even have said that because someone in dubai is probably

1:20:19 floor and I bought a $20 cup of coffee $2020? Yes, $20. Oh my God. How does it taste? Like a fucking cup of iced And this is beautiful. and the money is astronomical. is that in a lot of countries Most of the PhDs are Emirati women. They're like, ah, we're going to go to a bar and have just some places you can go to drink. serious money. Um, but you can, I bet you can fucking clean it up, but it's probably

1:23:58 But they were openly showing affection on the beach and they were thrown in jail. you will test positive for heroin if you eat like it's trace amounts, It's a natural thing. Fucking melatonin? That was it. That's the guy. And he was really interesting. that had scabies on it. guys just sort of jumped out hire a bunch of people you'd have a whole team you know and their job is just to fuck with people

1:28:21 Yeah, they definitely, definitely, definitely could. Everyone's playing music. That's my favorite spot. trying really hard to get him out. This is so embarrassing and inane. But that aside, And they picked them up doing that. Right. How bad was the poetry, though? that doesn't rhyme or have any meter or anything? to laugh because it was just so preposterous just like you know that really just pretentious

1:32:45 Yeah. But you know what? and people clap and cheer. in case someone breaks in my house and finds it. fuck I was at the time it's like it's just that's what you're you're when you suck and when you're and I was like no I sucked from the start and it was really hard yeah most comedians will tell you Like, I save all her stuff, or at least representations, like, you know, like some of it.

1:36:00 out. deal you know i'm like this is you can draw it like this one of the beautiful things about art down to the feet. that are, like, longer than reality. Some people have freakish tits like there's there's people that for whatever really there's that that poor dude this figure is nine heads. And a fashion figure, which is what they called it, which is the

1:39:11 representations of women so they have to starve themselves and then men are like no don't do that representation of like a beautiful person in nice clothes. Yeah, yeah. amount of body fat it's it's it's a natural thing because to be healthy the whole idea of breasts You're absolutely aware that she has gone through surgery to cut her skin, at if we're if aliens came down from another planet or even historians because i guarantee

1:42:18 I think they're gonna be able to do that with breasts or they're going to do some fucking freaky shit. And this is just one invention that is, I think, But the thing is, though, like, with trickery and, like trickery and like matters of aesthetics i don't even like want to call it Like you see someone who's dressed sharp and you go, oh, man, he looks great in that suit.

1:44:34 I wonder if that's the same with hermit crabs. Have you ever paid attention to octopus at all? And they check out how... Like how they walk with their crazy long legs They can change their colors and immediately adapt to their environment to the point where they're indistinguishable from the background Oh, the world's amazing. Like, look at that. So it's literally developed this ability to turn its body into the shape of a reef,

1:47:49 It's amazing. somehow through that, and we don't know how. they are just as intelligent It's your choice. We need email because we need to communicate. Because to them, if you're like, well, I'm going to build a house and drive my car to I'm going to write you a letter from my laptop. We can spray, we can cloud seed and make it rain. They have rainstorms that they manufacture.

1:51:08 You know, if you went back to the early humans and you compared like our tens and bone structure and. Yeah. and did they interbreed and there's debate on that as well. Including the I'm sure you've heard of like that Hobbit people they found the island of Flores. There's a bunch of people that believe, there's this guy that I've had on my podcast a few times now.

1:53:18 How are they here? And this has been proven by science now because over the last few years, they've discovered this called I think it's called trite night but it's essentially called nuclear bombarded with rocks from the sky. I mean, it makes a lot of sense, especially when societies And no other societies could carry on that legacy. That's crazy. you know a book and also the limits of it in the sort of cloud age yeah there's a lot of limits of

1:57:28 A super volcano erupted. that we have hold up, but then where are we going to get food? You know what else is weird? A friend of mine pointed this out. No, I want oak. They tricked us. That's a cruel world. Big, giant. Really? Yeah, those are the crab apples. Yeah, well, you know, your little tiny hands get a good grip on a crab apple and really whip it.

2:02:08 And other than that, the only thing I really have to talk about is my super dork hobby, which is I've been studying literary Arabic for the last year and I got pretty good at translating stuff, written stuff. you've made it into an object and then you go on to what's next and i i guess while i have the vague They're so awesome. But if you never have any time to be bored or be down,

2:04:16 And I think it can be like that with work stuff, too. all the kids teeth. They bring eye doctors to get all the kids glasses that need it. But then they And all over the place. Yeah, but I think your instincts are correct, though. of those things correctly requires so much attention and focus. It's almost like you can't and meet fascinating people and confront bastards.

2:07:29 Like, I think that man is like a god amongst men. Have you ever had him on the show or do you want to go to Kent? ali and he didn't want to see it so he put a richard nixon mask on and swam around the pool his brain. And he just had, he had become almost a caricature of himself. And along the lines, changing and pushing himself and it was just more comfortable to like stay in the mask yeah no doubt yeah i think um and also the the indulgences and the substances became not just

2:10:50 of a typical day in the life of Hunter S. Thompson. Chivas Regal, coke. We read cigarettes, cocaine, Chivas Regal, But for a while it worked. and it is excellent and your writing is MollyCrabapple.com