Joe Rogan Experience #739 — Duncan Trussell & Christopher Ryan Transcript

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0:00 How strong are these? Shouldn't have two, right? But everybody I know that saw it said it was awesome. I don't know why people have expectations for Star Wars. But it's Star Wars. You know it's not going to step outside of the box. It's mixed in with a lot of mystical stuff that you can Yeah, The Hero with a Thousand Faces What's Lucas Ranch? Where George Lucas

2:29 Oh, wow. And I said, oh, you got to meet my friend Duncan. But I know Timothy Leary tried stand-up Which is, I've noticed that seems to be a quality in people who have a real spiritual Like there isn't anything that you can say that's going to make them upset. But, you know, It's like the opposite of tough. as opposed to, like, me, I get on the phone with Bank of America,

5:25 A guy fucking nailed me on the highway while he wasn't paying attention. And I literally wasn't upset at all. I think I was probably like and you get mad at like someone doing a shitty job parking like come on fuckhead park your fucking you know when i'm in those situations or like when i got lost in a whiteout on mount everest in my Well, I knew I was going to survive because he wasn't going that fast.

7:47 It's constant. And then all of a sudden, shit! Oh, God. There's those wild cards. Because you feel you develop that vulnerable sense. It's like you look down at the road buzzing by you at 70 miles an hour, you know there's definitely that you can definitely get too detached and as things get more and more I shut it off. Yeah, I've seen that. Yeah, it's the space between automation and like like, semi-automation and full automation

11:29 The interstates are just going to look like houses. Yeah. Scarf over your shoulder. And you're like, what an adventure. Either you don't see her vagina or you don't see her face. I got to, hold on. Someone had to be the first person to be like, you know what? Yeah. It may have started as a blindfold. of people in America. See, I see it as an expression

15:11 I think it's an expression of anti-eroticism, anti-pleasure, right? The thing that's bizarre about that is in the fine print, it says it's in beta. of software, of operating systems, rather. So I have to have a workaround with certain drivers for video cards. Yeah. My first exposure to computers was when I worked in real estate in New York in the Diamond District full of Hasidic Jews.

17:15 oh my god that's hilarious this was like 86 or so that's so funny wow it's so funny like the I can't figure out how to do it. I was trying to use it in the gym. Wasn't your complaint back in the carriage and don't catch cholera as you're on your fucking slippery ride over the top of the mountain where you might wind up eating all your friends. Yeah, that's stuck up there. Crazy, man, that we are constantly surrounded by some cloud of invisible data that consists of all information that has ever been recorded. That's crazy. Did you hear about that guy that was, oh, he went to sea. He got shipwrecked at sea for like over a year with another guy.

19:06 Right. Jamie, see if you can find the story. I don't know what it is because I don't know if it's American. Eat me if I die. I think he talked about it. It kind of makes your family member a hero. Wow. You know, there's a – Right. or starved. Wow. The body of Christ. where you're shifting the wafer into the flesh of a god that you're eating that's totally real

23:21 So the piss of the shaman who's eaten Amanita muscaria will get you high as shit. and we had a fucking insane journey. Soma. Yeah. What is it? Oh, wow. If you lived at that time and you had no science, you had some myths and fables and you had when you have an experience it doesn't matter if that experience is like you could put it on a scale or hit it with a stick

25:57 It's like meeting a sea of gods. Hypnosis is another one. in this tradition, and I am transported to another world that makes my life better. A big part of the problem with just the idea of religious ideas. But the feeling that you're getting, like you're feeling, if you're all together in Like that feeling is the search for this positive source, And the fucking parasites that latch on to this and, you know, start selling shit and, you know, making a power structure around it.

29:33 If they don't have a sense of humor, there's something wrong. and the devil's like yeah but he only does what you tell him because you've been good to him This is how cocky I've been talking to God. God gave me a PhD. Whatever the story is. So if you look at the universe, like right now, at this moment, mothers are dying of To me, it's like, well, I stepped on an ant today.

32:18 landed on the goddamn Range Rover, You're going to die. That's wild. And then the guy, the narrator actually says, we slow this down to 140th of normal speed, right? Because all the seals I've seen were lying on rocks and chilling and barking and having fun. And we're looking at that as evidence of the cruelty of nature? Anyway, that guy, he got pounced on by a lion.

35:42 the deer kind of give in, man. If the mountain lion bites the bear in its neck neck the bear is going to try to turn and bite him back and they're going to tooth and claw it out they're not going to give i wonder if he would And it is true. Exactly. to accept oh this is just completely normal this thing this and then that's it's like a revelation right and the veil is pulled back

39:33 and obviously has sacred value, but I don't think it has that same revelatory aspect that Most of the things that people come up with to occupy their mind just love each other and spend as much time together in camaraderie and in friendship as possible, We're good. Like you have to if you go on a trip to the desert and you go out to the desert and like the high desert

42:11 seriously that's what they spray rose perfume on roses i i went to dinner once this french Because I'm super pale. I'm American. And I'm like, whew, lucked out. What? That's hard to say. You're right. They do something to them, though. Oh, right. That's what you mean fecal transplant? When being born vaginally, you get your mother's microbiome all over your skin and in your mouth and stuff from her vaginal secretions.

46:00 There are new rules in this society, I don't care if you're 18. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Are they allowed to have a nuanced opinion on subjects that are controversial? Listen mindfully before a formula. Oh, my God. Do you think the response would be the same if it was a white person being pulled over? from the war-torn areas around the world for decades. Why are the black students complaining?

49:14 By the way, uplifting is not a fucking verb. It's about the Yale student protests. You don't hear them complaining when they're complaining? If you don't hear complaining, then you're not paying attention. He was a 12 year old boy playing in the park. It's crazy. or they're trying to steal something, People want to shoot at you. A lot of them have PTSD, and they were trained where they were an occupying force.

51:40 like, talking about getting pulls his gun out something he just shoots the guy in his fucking car yeah no one's in trouble Yeah. Incentivized. What? would pull people over and if you have money they just take it and just say well you have to figure Have you seen this show? They're going to want to scrub the internet of that footage because they're enforcing a law that, I mean, we all know, I'm preaching the fucking choir here, but there's something so foul about it, that smugness, you know?

55:04 Something they enjoy. It's not just for nothing. For literally nothing. Yeah. Well, not less than nothing. Something they enjoy. Yeah. I don't know if the culture sets out to deny it Yeah. Yeah. I don't think Henry Kissinger is behind it no I know you don't but I mean I don't think there's anyone that doesn't want us anyone that also came up with the we're defending freedom abroad justification

57:27 and we needed them to think that we were in charge, that was the first thing, It all seems like a ridiculous thing that everyone else seems to have accepted. The availability and the relaxation, the way people view pot in 2015 is way different than 2005. those guys are dead. But those people that did that, they're all dead. Do you do marijuana? when you get really sucked into the cult the just the fact that you've been

1:00:58 that was in some way dampening or pushing your society back, pushing back the evolution of your culture. That's what the PTSD is all about. whatever it's fucking you gotta come to terms with it you know they have to come You know, because culture has kind of a haze. Right. But no one, like, even to this day, if you talk about getting high, One of them is opening up awareness.

1:03:40 Ah, you guys got stoned, huh? No, man. It's a real war. It's a war where people have been killed and imprisoned. so much about society and myself They're digging through their kids' drawers to try to find a substance that has been on anyone is ever going to be able to calculate how much damage that has done to society. Like, it was like finding books where it talks about Timothy Leary as an insane lunatic who lost his mind.

1:07:35 you know, if you take five hits of acid, I'm insane. It really is. And a lot of them went to jail for it. of the things that's changing that I think is what's happening in Colorado with the tax revenue. Crime went down to record levels. And tourism up. That's awesome. He lived in a rainforest in Hawaii. A porn award? And I'm up against Ron Jericho. Okay. Is that good? Yeah. Best non-sex scene in a movie. What movie was this?

1:10:40 I hope you win. The AVN Awards. the way that pornography, that industry is kind of disintegrating because of the Internet. It's a very weird time. It will. Because you think about it, if you're in a collision're you're good if you're driving backwards not really you're That's true. Man, did you see the video of Elon Musk finally landing the rocket? We're ending you. Ah! I don't know. Yeah, you wouldn't, because it would be closed.

1:12:58 He landed a rocket. That guy that's fucked. Sorry, sorry, sorry. I did that. They pull you. I find I store them. myself as I'm doing it too because I know I'm addicted and I can see what I'm these like weird little hits and it's kind of cool and it keeps you like stuck in a cycle but that pull and they were really hardcore, man. I know what you're talking about.

1:16:36 things happen you can open things look at pictures it's one of the things that people like about Yeah. It's like it's solely pulling us into its trance. It's going to be Google Glass, the contact lens. Oh, it's going to do everything. that are better than these eyes for sure these eyes that we have that i need reading glasses Pretty sure. You would always say that. And then they would say, oh, that's bullshit his eyes from reading. Like, we would always say that.

1:19:35 Right. You need balance. In fact, I just interviewed a sleep scientist that sort of tell you what time it is and your circadian rhythm and all that. Because if you're looking at blue light right Yeah. So you can grow weed? and there's like 15 different stores Well, did you hear about the former FBI agents whose house got broken down? They literally were growing tomatoes.

1:22:32 I guess so. being used in your basement, which could be indicative of plant growth uh you have plant That's why I'm leaving. see you inside your house, the skeleton only. Well eventually you'll see. people are using to look through walls and see shadows fuck then it's a what 10 Wow. Each x-ray van cost an estimated $729,000. It falls into the range of security

1:25:47 drugs. Because you can sell With the CISA package. Whatever the fuck it is yeah the one I've been thinking about this for a long time, I'm tired of suitcases. Exactly. Right. kind of like everyone in Switzerland has guns? But if they could come for us with a speedboat and nukes, It's almost like the ultimate expression Fuck it, man. It's a very good point.

1:28:43 He said that what he said, and I think he may have, I mean I don't know, he didn't say he was exaggerating, that's cool, man, but I think I'm going to detonate this nuclear Because it's ridiculous. it's not really it's a terrifying race and um but isn't that kind of The only way that we're gonna survive is we fix humanity. or the various different things that technology can do.

1:32:01 The boundaries between people are getting smaller and smaller. Because money is not sacks of gold. Right. Money is information. We're all communicating with each other. That's just symbolic, too. Well, I accept your money, but it's not really worth a dollar. Our central bank, who's staffed by people we don't know. One of them I'm super into right now are graphic novels called The Invisibles.

1:35:42 something to give you more money to add to your the- pockets it tried to climb onto our face with the google glasses but nobody liked that but now it's They're doing artificial knees. It takes five minutes. You touch the X in space. So it's like with technology. It's the same thing like what if we keep replacing ours. There it is the ship of Theseus. That's it. Yeah

1:39:03 Is that what's going on? there's a trigger point and different genes are triggered and activated in the body. gatherer which is 95 plus percent of our time on the planet that's human behavior This is our major disagreement here is you want to be a grasshopper. You don't think about anything Dude. You're not having trouble focusing your mind when you're hunting. It just comes to you.

1:41:31 You know that feeling when you catch a nice fish? Right when I'm about to eat a bear, no! We have more value in warm-blooded animals That's true. She goes, well, fish don't take care of their young. I mean, almost universally. But it's innately, inherently meaningful is what I'm saying, right? Oh, humanity. There's this visceral genetic response to getting a fish.

1:44:09 You got something. You don't feel anything. It's called pata negra, which means black foot. but you buy the whole leg. Whoa, like a whole ham that's cured. Yeah. And in most Spanish houses, And it can be there. Someone killed it in Spain, did all this stuff to it. But it's all. It's sitting in my freezer that I'm eventually going to brine sometime soon.

1:47:16 I got a big green egg, and I got to say, man, there's nothing. like, oh shit, I miss this feeling. Like this feels, this feels as good as when I like jump And when we were sitting around this fire, we're eating, I was like, I can't remember a more enjoyable meal. accomplishment. sound so i think i think this is the key to human happiness that that we're ignoring that our society takes all

1:50:11 Harvard placemat that they're handing back this is like an uber domestic You can't be a bro. into an argument with me over is. It's the, you know, Carl intention-based you know like that you could say if I say there's so many ways And that energy is all that matters to me. We're not talking about the emptiness of their lives that leads them into those heroin and prescription drugs and all that.

1:53:26 Not sufficiently burrowish. And people who are thinking, I think there might be another way. Let him understand that if he's not paying a fucking attention, he's going to get fucked But if this is the case, then we still have to figure out a way to, like, even now, as much as possible, put out into the world love. thought. It wouldn't have been as good. We had several

1:56:13 You'd probably find more common ground with them there than you would sitting around a conference table. Yeah. Yeah, well definitely Yeah, you need each other. you find this universally among foragers whether it's in the inuit or in papua new guinea they do Yeah, it's a problem. The swarm stops. That's why they swarm, because if you slow down, the one behind you will eat They eat each other? Yeah. That's why they swarm,

1:58:17 They all run around. to the the sorting and put it in the box and get the label crazy they have this one terrible game And they're yelling to their husbands like rats. accessible to people but maybe not accessible to everyone as a whole do you have any idea of like which means you have to cut through a lot of the bullshit propaganda that you've been hearing your whole life,

2:01:23 everywhere. You know, we were talking yesterday about people wanting to take a chance to go do something. They want to like do something outside And it's essential, as we were saying, to keep you running on the wheel. For them, the challenge is like, oh, we're going to go hunting, you know, and it'll feel great and we'll eat. It's the immediacy. the real way out is to allow yourself to be fully in the experience of what's happening right now.

2:04:47 The thing is, it's like the idea is, sure, for sure. Let yourself feel. You're not alive. what do you do to try to achieve that sort of centered feeling? I've just been caught up in what's called in your head. You can breathe, right? looking at your fucking cell phone. the happiness, whatever it is, is there, but it's not you. You're not identifying with it anymore.

2:09:01 out of that system. So they have to find a way in the midst of all of that negative phenomena A situation of acceptance and love. all day while you shuffle paperwork or whatever, right? going to like don't try to escape is my advice but if you're but if it's just a dead-end job Whoa. I think he swapped out the engine five times or something, because VW vans are not known

2:11:56 If you live in a shitty situation like that long enough with a job you hate My friend Steve Maxwell, he doesn't even have a camper. Got sick of that, sold that fucking thing. They're either coding or editing or whatever, something you can do through the computer. And the laws are all set up where you pay tax where you are. You're finding more and more people are accepting Bitcoin and other forms of digital currency.

2:14:11 The idea of you being constrained to a patch of dirt Not me, sir, but I was in the car with- You can get in trouble for allowing someone to drive a car Even if they don't have a driver's license? They'll go, fuck off. Get out of here. Yeah. So ever since, when i've been asked I don't know. up every time he goes into Canada he got arrested because he worked for a check

2:17:28 Now I fucking, if we go to Canada together, I let that dude get ahead of me. Here's where it gets stupid. Wow. So you're better off being shit-faced. Just splash whiskey all over your face and fall asleep. because it's shit on your record, San Bernardino. a lot of people are saying, that shit that you've posted online and admitted to doing becomes illegal.

2:20:33 living in the United States, weapons manufacturers, legislators, people who just get off on controlling And if something like that did happen, and we enter into some new Orwellian awfulness, They won't let me in? Safe. got some seriously strict drug sniffer dogs around, you know, Cat's up a tree. Well, they've got to keep us on a war footing forever.

2:23:45 you know what do they call themselves like that Yeah. It's not that great. Chicken is better than turkey. I mean, it's good, but it's not the best. There's Kentucky Fried Chicken. I forget the name of the company, but they're still around in some form, He was also behind the fluoridation of the water supply. That's so funny we accept that, man. Fluoride can kill you.

2:25:55 But you die with white teeth. Weston Smith. That's what he just said, right? What? Did you read this before you put it up? Oh, he got everything right, man. He's dead on with the bacon. Bacon's amazing. But the bacon, he got right. Oh, he got everything right, man. I bet he was just a fucking maestro. He's really happy. There's that voice at the end of the thing.

2:28:10 those side effects and it's so stupid Stoner's Sloth. So that's AU. Who knows? The government shut it down. Let's play it because it's fucking so stupid. Those were made by a partnership for a drug-free America. Hands down, Delilah. It's also the name of an online cannabis product retailer. It's not up anymore, though. That's when it comes to marijuana propaganda.

2:31:07 Right. The sort of cafe vibe and progressive, interesting people. It's like Ted, but without the sort of brand protection paranoia. pretty cool okay yeah I played there. because the food Did you go up Just wrecked. or eight but the but getting to it would be way harder yeah but i was amazed i couldn't believe Can you change melatonin using different medications and, using different medications and, you know, different techniques.

2:33:42 This is very bizarre. The literal rising and setting of the sun has a direct effect on the rhythm of your body. Yeah. So he wanted to understand why women's sense of smell is so much stronger than it's not that he smells bad. It's just the smell's not right. That'll be a deal breaker the smell they'll say the smell and it's not that he smells bad it's just the smell's not right that'll be a deal breaker for a lot of women you never hear a dude

2:36:11 I can't. Well, that's a different thing, right? So they would find a bunch of guys who were low in one or two or number three or number four or whatever, based only on the smell of the T-shirts, right? So think of how many couples have gotten together when she's on the pill, My wife went off the pill and she was done with me. That's a mind blower. Well, just the coinciding menstrual cycles alone, obviously, there's some crazy shit going on.

2:39:30 She's like we got to figure out something else cuz I don't even like sex when I'm on the pill That concept though, that there's this like data field, like a chemical data field surrounding and can decode it in a certain Again, we're pretending we're not animals. like acidophilus, something probiotic, because you want to keep your skin flora healthy, and you want to not

2:41:56 or things along those lines. Well, it's, you know, the pathogens are constantly mutating, right, as we knew it would, It puts us back to where if a cat scratched you, She's like the ground garlic apparently has this radical effect on MRSA. My wife irrigated Yeah, or just piss on your feet every morning, It's a very bizarre practice. I'm probably better off with a multivitamin.

2:44:18 I know. like you take water in, you keep a healthy level, and it's like oil in your car. You get crystallized things in your body and, you know, you have to piss those out of your dick hole. apparently it's like the size of the bladder and the volume of the urethra is It's a waterfall. Well, but it's the size of your bladder, right? in case you wondered what it

2:46:31 Did you see that? The volume is just stunning. And it comes fast. Oh, yeah. Yeah. volume is just stunning it comes fast oh yeah yeah it's just high pressure yeah it's like wow so i'll tell you what Casilda, my wife, who's a doctor, thought I had a gas-like bubble in my intestine. That's what I remember thinking, like, honeymoon's over, we're into marriage now.

2:47:55 And so that's what the pain is, that it's sort of scraping its way down the tube. No, no, it's in your abdomen. What? And I asked and I had the meeting with the anesthesiologist and I'm like, can you just put me under for this? And meanwhile, it was New Year's Eve. Okay. It was a wafer. It was no pain at all. So that's my kidney stone story. It was moon rock.

2:51:13 we ran into these people that do think and Duncan's like, yeah, I mean, probably. Why do you think that that's an alien implant? That was intense. I'll never forget driving around I just know it was out in the middle of nowhere. And he kept saying how, like, there's going to be a wine bar. And he had set up an RV with a little bit of AstroTurf in front of it and some playground equipment.

2:53:28 and so he bought it from them alien artifacts in that It's about this woman who's kidnapped by this dude who locks her in a room and rapes her. we're told what to believe and yeah it's the matrix it's all these things the matrix gnosticism they're actually a form of Satanists. weed, anytime you do anything to even disrupt that system a little bit, you're doing a holy

2:56:51 We'll end it right there. What are we calling this? Bye.