Joe Rogan Experience #764 — Duncan Trussell Transcript

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0:00 These are great fucking mods. We archered. Yeah, you are. And it's a great goddamn metaphor for everything. Well, some and how I was shooting your bow today, recurve bow but i get it man i would not want to hunt an animal with a recurve bow because and I was putting it in the heart at 65 yards. it's the best something clicks inside of you where it's just like this is all I want to do

3:47 Yeah. Yeah. I've been inside so much that I feel when I go outside like I've taken a Vicodin or something. want to stay out there and feel it. So yeah, I got the bow because I knew it put me outside more. going on there it's a serious thing it looks like it's for hunting i don't intend to go hunting bow, everything's better than a shit is so when they hit the bow they at least when they hit a recurve bow when they hit the bow, at least when they hit a recurve bow, when they hit the arrow rest, it throws them off in a specific way, whereas feathers are more pliable.

7:46 Well, the compound bow is even more addictive because there's different kind of sights and different kind of rests, the cables and the strings to the rest are attached. which over long periods of time can, It's still insanely fast and powerful. All the different evolutions that the bow has had It was the original technology. was when it was raining out they couldn't fight right their fucking bows would fall apart right

10:26 a long bow like someone worked that and before that someone just figured to me all of these That's incredible. Like the first guy that used one of those bows with the bits in the teeth. It was the guy in Life Below Zero who lives by himself in like a tool shed. So he brings this bit and the bow. It's so badass. Whoa. And that kind of stuff is amazing.

13:16 He's not saying a word. But oftentimes, if it's down to using this kind of stuff, I mean, if this is what we're back down to, we're fucked. it was like that kind of bullshitting that used to have in the 80s. Those were the days. It was so hard to get busted. Super common. You'd have to hire a private eye. understand. This is why magicians are so powerful

16:11 Back when you had to have priests do all the translating and no one could read it. And Martin Luther and Martin Luther being one of the first guys who translated it phonetically. Yeah. credentials, if you hadn't gone through the right initiation. It's so true. hour is what anybody's life energy is really worth. And recognize that the more you do that you have to compromise, the more you do where you're only doing it for a paycheck or you're only doing it because you want to play it safe or you're only doing it for any, figure out whatever the negative reason would be. Anytime you're doing anything like that, you're wasting time.

19:50 History of Nearly Everything. That's the one you were archaic revival or it's not about psychedelics but it's his it's psychedelic just because it's they don't have gravity you know right their bones get all fucked up the the so what's happening here And that's what planets are doing. attracted to each other and so that's so that's Einstein's picture of gravity.

22:50 We're looking at like a trampoline. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. You can look it up. The Principia something. God, what was it? I'm sure I'm butchering Now, here's what's weird about fucking Newton. Yeah. another name for chemist so a lot of it was bullshit right like a lot of it was well i mean And it's not their fault that they're idiots, something, there must be something to it.

27:56 He's got this series on Egypt called magical Egypt and apparently he just released magical Egypt 2 as like the proportions of a human body right? It's really fucking intense like they were so fucking smart How is that? Yeah. The thumb monkeys. It's bad. Thumb monkeys, right? What we need to do is just save these and everybody have these as pets. I'll tell you why.

30:30 monkey. Yeah, we'll give them vitamins and shit. All you have to do is just get You gotta stick it in their pussy. We have to save them so we can use them as pets. Yeah, they make you younger. fellow primates we have rules in this country at least if If you could prove that a pig is smarter than a thumb monkey, and it might be. Well, it's not even our own kind, dude.

32:36 Some humans are going to vote for Trump. But if someone corrects me and it seems undeniable then i'll If you had Thomas Edison alive today, he would know jack shit about the way this world works. hold of it and use it for an argument. How do those guys get through when we're complaining about a tweet? when it comes to getting the people Right. like you you're you're in this dimension that you've got to navigate through for a certain

36:58 uh not newton who was it uh galileo if we brought him back here he would be confused Thomas Thomas yeah No arguing about it. my ego, even when I, Like it felt right. Self-sabotage. fucking i don't have anything to do right and then you're in front of that computer and that game is because if you understand how to get good at this one thing, these variables the same which is the anchor point the way your arm holds the bow the way you pull

40:32 variables over and over and over again without just for at least a month attempting some rhythmic And that pattern is written about in most scriptures. doing we don't know except the fact that when they took his hair a sample of his hair it was filled when you think about isaac newton in that time period and what he knew as opposed to what They didn't know what all the different elements were.

44:06 They collide with each other. Down there, it gets weird down there, man. So one bad motherfucker in 1868 wrote it all down. What do they do? Did you ever see the girl that graduated Wow. oxygen, neon, and what's this one? Bismuth is B-I. Someone should hire her and just give her the most awesome job available to mankind. It's pretty gangster. Did you hear about the kid who, I think he's got a felony charge on him because he posed

47:23 Is there a video of him doing this and plastic surgery and he was shooting caulk like caulk, like that you would buy from a supermarket or a hardware store. Keep an eye on that fucker. He went and spoke to a class. Sounds like how they would find someone in an X-Men episode, like one of those X-Men Take your sunglasses off, sir. superintendent? I mean, titles are so stupid

49:45 senators impersonating by the way it's just a guy who calls himself a senator because of a That's funny. Shenanigans must stop. What is that? I'm no longer surprised by anything you hear about ISIS. Guys, we're running out of ways to horrify the planet. Because they're like... Let's stop the fire. Yeah. I mean, and scary dick. It's the same thing you got to suck some cocks out there man you got to like suck cocks play it cool for a while

53:53 You won't suck cock for your country? Is that what you're Like the moment you have sex laws, the moment that you have decreed a sex law in your country, Just make it. I'll do respect to hoes Bad it happened in their life. Yeah, and to think that there are actual That it was like there was some places in the country where it was still illegal to have anal anal or oral sex because it falls under a sodomy law yeah so if you gotta go

56:54 form of witchcraft because the body was evil the idea is the body's evil the body's corrupt the Yeah, so you have to- I feel foul. I don't want to go to hell. But they make you, you can whip your back. So there's video of people whipping their backs and then a suicide bomb goes and then I made the mistake Right. I love the clean air. I love looking at

1:00:10 Yeah, but that's definitely good. Like we were talking about like making a fire, our mind because they're what made people become successful and survive thousands of years ago. That's right. Just works in his house. It's like like some sort of a calming drug like my body is being given reasons why so many people are depressed. And I think the beauty is because those beautiful things

1:03:49 Yeah. And I'm just. I want to do it. You wouldn't have to get enough money to buy the food. Improvement. So like, shit, man, I got to pay this much for taxes and I got to go to work this many I've got to find food to eat. I've got to find a place to take shelter. I've got there. All I think that's part of the comfort of it. And they figured out how to make cities. And they figured out how to make cities.

1:07:41 All your food stays cold. So there's innovation that's been going on for thousands of years. Right. Right. We're constructing this crazy thing. It's a place called Little Cumberland. of islands off the coast of georgia oil refinery a space center what so they want to build a place You see how beautiful flowers are again. the what I'm gonna become a nudist

1:11:28 simultaneous to this incredible feeling you get from nature, And then the other feeling is like the filthy, nasty, disgusting feeling you get from being Way over-caffeinated, by the way. I would down like five of those while I was playing video games. Like, you're getting fat and feeling sick. it was definitely fun. But the indoor thing of anything other than

1:14:51 something about it that it's like when it all comes together it's like a reward like a beautiful And what are they like? are taught is these things, they don't care about themselves. bowing or bending. And then I got closer. So if you take that as perfection, which I think it is, continuing to want the latest and greatest why does it continue to ask for

1:18:08 Okay. Right. But, in, I realized I hadn't looked at myself for three days, like three days of not seeing myself, three days of no self to observe. Does he like me? You become invisible and you become perfect instantaneously it's this be somehow awful like because i hadn't listened to a lot of kanye west music until he freaked out I'm not going to listen anymore. I don't want it to be good.

1:22:00 as the main inspirational force behind everything that they were creating. Their art would suck. not be there for a second when you're shooting. and they just nail it and there's a state where where you've got to know that that is just, my boyfriend's such a loser right you know i wonder why you didn't get it up last night electronically through these devices.

1:24:47 an intelligent, super evolved, artificial life form greatest shit in order to be the bad man on the block so if you're gonna get the No. And you're going to continue to do it. It accelerates. It's almost like it's summoning these dumb monkeys to do its work for them by getting they're not even conscious of it, What is this? Fuck you, Kanye. You hear that shit Amber said about him?

1:27:53 Well, that's it, man. But what if you just shoot out a shit ton of matter into space and this matter is encoded somehow so that when it lands on this planet or that planet, it's just the right kind of planet to support the life form that you are then it begins to evolve and to us it seems like it takes millions and millions of years for And what we do by making an artificial life form isn't create a sentientient being it's allowing something to tune into the intelligence that's it that what you're

1:30:35 Right. Did you hear about this? so if you, okay, so like if I teach a computer how to play a game by giving it the moves of the top That's it. Some, is it neat? waking up is like you're saying, tuning into some universal radio station where the moment we tune seems to be coming through all over the fucking place so it's appearing into inescapable truth

1:34:53 So when it finally is no longer being like obstructed by the fear dynamics or the cultural A sense of self and ego would make you sire a bunch of children, would make you think An invention that might have interfered with his paper This is amazing. Yeah, yeah. But it is leading. in 2020 maybe after trump's disastrous first term where Mexico is like literally

1:38:17 Maybe then the AI runs for president. Smarter, more effective than the human beings we have today. We call it Jesus. inevitably we know that if there was a buddha there's going to be again, right? Inevitably, we know that if there was a Buddha, there's going see the shimmering like that's the internet but the thing hasn't fully solidified yet when it solidifies that's going to be the

1:40:31 It's going to take decades. Well, this is John the Baptist. So like in the Bible, John the Baptist, you know I'm a Christian now, Joe. fun to imagine but here's a guy in the wilderness baptizing people and saying something is coming wherever it happens to be, where the thing says, hi, hi, hi, hi. like we're looking at the human graph because we're in the middle of it, like 50 years is a big deal.

1:42:47 That's a tiny little blip. changed killed crabs it killed crabs it changed the way people groom their pubic hair people before the internet was fucking it was the wild west down there crabs. It changed the way people groomed their pubic hair. It just shows you how much people are looking at naked people. right almost but it was it was what you did to get the laugh back then.

1:44:43 with your own bullshit, your own personal life, And that's okay. with a thing where nothing is there except love except love so all that's coming out is the most pure love doesn't care who you are what Let me bring you down a little bit. I've seen it happen. But like when I meet, uh, when I like, I can tell a lot about a person, a little bit about Because they all have from Ram Dass to this guy, Raghu Marcus to Krishna Dass to like all these people who are around him.

1:49:07 these people that meet that guy and then come back with these descriptives that are equally and you watch them do stuff with their body, to be one with the moment and to live in the moment and the more you do that and the more that you are in the moment and they don't go back. And there's a lot of similarities in the reports of the way that these people act

1:51:56 But most importantly, I can recover quicker from getting lost in my head. That's a problem, yes. And he'll occasionally drop some fucking street science on you and some logic that's undeniable and a lot of humor along the way. And you can take people like that into your life and they can give you a new map. you can find something online where you can listen.

1:53:27 He does it with a comic too. Yeah. there's chemtrails too. earth, like the shape that we currently see right now. It's crazy. Do you know the whole story behind it? that every 3,600 years comes between Mars and Jupiter. See you they take off and they leave behind these stories right well gold particles gold dust the idea is that they would suspend these gold particles in

1:57:37 Yeah. It's so sexy. Writing shit down on cave walls. how did this thing become this thing you know why this persistent look to the heavens for answers The best. Ah, great. Why do they have to have dicks? Yeah, that seems like a really inefficient way to harvest gold, though, man. it seems like it's not the only way but maybe it's the funnest way maybe it's a good way like

2:00:50 Then we'll be like, pfft. Where are you guys going? I'll believe it when I see it. What they found, they don't know the orbit of it. the idea that there's a large, massive body outside of that that's causing this drop off, But there's also some speculation, at least there was a few decades ago, So there's something four times the size of the Earth, which is still tiny in comparison to the sun and tiny even in comparison to Jupiter.

2:03:46 that there's some rock spinning around out there. Yeah. They have storms on Jupiter Yes. we know that the fucking lead ball would be incredibly difficult for a lot of reasons. One, because they're very fast. The other one is expand and contract so there's no way to measure it because everything will and they're hundreds of miles apart. off that part of the experiment for a few weeks so he knew they weren't doing that i'm lost you

2:07:52 It's fucking, I mean, that's obviously not the real picture, but it's just something insane to think that. You know what a stellar nursery is? Right. into the universe right from this gigantic structure that's probably you know how What is that? That's crazy. And it just goes on forever. That was a hard moment for me. This one, this is... This is what, I think that one's for golf.

2:10:50 binocular ones they have binocular ones that work that way they need like 30 yards anything inside We can't. Yes, testicles are like that big and his brain is like double the size of his balls. No way. So imagine with our balls, which are smaller than his, and our brains, which are larger than his, But what we're all doing is we're all slowly but surely going to go from being that chimp to being some new thing.

2:13:02 This is where it gets really fascinating. because of your particular tiny, tiny, tiny little body. And so this head in the sand thing we were talking about, getting caught up with your bills, your relationship, your hair. The idea is, and I think it's a very beautiful idea you don't need the goddamn Well, you know, But the idea of like, or ways that you're going to like

2:16:12 Doesn't have to be Jesus, the Virgin Mary. It can be anybody you're inspired by. Create a space with She's like, no, I'm just sitting here. I thought that was so funny because it's like, oh, right. Release that arrow. It's the best. You're existing through the experience you give other people when they're around you. Float tanks, that's the real meditation.

2:19:21 But the float tank is where it's at man man. And those fucking things are exploding now. They're over the world. Yeah, people love it. They're finally getting it people are finally getting it giving this meditation class and people were meditating and there was like a siren that kept Dog would shut the fuck up. burn where there's like a cut on you Yeah, they don't drip.

2:22:41 it's a great spot. everything i mean all the nasty funky shit on your skin that salt torches it because you're Oh, that's cool. You got to abandon it. And then you can bypass the land of trouble and confusion. Come with me. Your boss is a cunt. Okay, you know he's Right. That's why that Bikram guy's a scumbag, but he had a fucking great idea. Very positive to a point where she was saying that there was a 40% reduction in mortalities across the board from people that are regular sauna users.

2:25:56 It's freaking the fuck out. Fucking they'd live to be ten and they did fuck somebody else and people were probably getting pregnant when they were six years old back Just a fucking stinking corpse that you think is who you are and you're clinging to it that's How would you describe the state after that? You can go in it and out of it. But it was whatever it was, was such a ripple, such a boom.

2:28:54 with the bullshit again but you're when you pop out of the land of trouble and despair it's like tradition and even language to a certain extent the thoughts stop being like you're relaying It was so nice. Why don't you call those Zen people and go, yo, hook. it's so cool yeah and they should be man because but this this place you're talking about man uh the place that you're accessing through the float tank and not always by the way

2:31:51 of what is it sorrow and despair the land of trouble and despair this is like the discursive It's a classic example. Now you're in the land of trouble and despair. in traffic. And then it goes away. And there might be these thoughts flying around in your head like, Much happier. Especially if someone cut you off when nothing even happened. And guaranteed, he didn't mean to, like, he didn't, you know, once.

2:34:11 and I'm like, I'm sick Let's give him a fucking break today. And you're still in the fucking car. live in a bad neighborhood but then you realize that crazy bitch lives in your want to like change your parents or you want to change the person you're living with you want to But you realize that he was playing the game with, house well some people change their behavior though for you and then once you move in with

2:38:02 or being at work with anyone or anyone you interact with on a daily basis who you haven't uh some weird shit with right now right the next time So, Shempa is the feeling of pulling back the bowstring or the feeling of preparing to strike. You've pulled back the bow and you want to be right. Sometimes. You're pulling it back. you got a pink toothbrush fluffy fucking fluffy cover over your pillows you got valentine's hearts

2:40:14 Some music you hate will be playing. That's awful. Before she starts fucking her personal trainer. That's what I'm saying, dude. have a mortgage, don't lose the battle. I'm talking about, in general, most battles that you're fighting, they don't have that much of a consequence. Oh, I don't know about all that. Just once in a while. For the most part, the people that you let in,

2:42:44 what kind of things you're letting in and what kind of circles you're hanging around in and what kind of interest you're pursuing what kind of things you're focusing on and why has that led you to be engulfed in this to that moment, your idea of here's what's right and here's what's wrong. And the question is how much of your understanding of what's right and how much of your understanding of what's wrong

2:44:21 Kanye thing happened and you know now that I think about it why don't I like Bob Dylan? He's got a lot of great fucking songs, even though he sounds like a wallet, a leather wallet started singing or something. fucking picture man you're gonna put i got really mad like i don't want fucking bob dylan in the in Yeah, he was young. I can't make myself like him.

2:45:35 up in the guest room. I don't want our guests to look at Like, god damn it, man. using the picture of bob dylan as some kind of like method of torture like to win herself it's Situations overcoming adversity and there's reward systems built into our brain methodologies. There's other ways to an engine that has too much gas pumping You're barely moving. You're barely

2:48:31 That's why there's that primal, crazy feeling when you catch a fish. It takes five seconds. That's right. Yeah. Right. And that primal thing is attached to shooting those fucking arrows too, man. Just make the body fucking move. And if you find yourself in a life that you don't like, if you find yourself in a situation that is not bringing you happiness, then there are ways that you can escape that gravitational field.

2:50:33 Not a statistic, rather a meme. will tell you after you failed a certain number of times that you will never be able to do it. going to trip for infinity, right? So in the same way, most suffering comes because people think, shit, this is going to be like this forever. No, it's not. It's not. It's going to change. fat again man and like literally fat like overweight cuz I this much Equinox

2:53:41 saying if i do again but why are you saying it that way you're right that's bad that's well it seems like you're giving yourself a loophole it's kind of fun to get fat intense physical health consequences that you have intimately experienced and the fact that even though you've gone through cancer yes you still will make yourself like a path that you're

2:54:56 You are not as healthy as you would be if you're not fat. You don't want to be shredded. So why after all that you just said would you give yourself that little? got to be like I think as I think about this right I do think about this right Right. Right. That's part of the program. saying i mean you'll allow it sure sure sure i've gotten fat i've gotten pretty close to being fat like for me for me i've gotten you know like i think the heaviest i got

2:58:49 If you allow yourself to get too far gone, it couldn't work out as intensely when I was about, And I'm pretty healthy about it. Health should be the big one. cool. Fuck it, let's just do it. I see people smoking cigarettes. smoking on these things. I'm just going to puff on a couple of days. No big deal. I smoke maybe This is all. the same sugar it's the same pull of the bread the same pull of sugar. The demon sugar. It's the same pull of the bread, the same pull of the pasta.

3:02:11 oh, look at that. But it's cool it's contrary to the entire two hours and 20 minutes you were talking about before that moment I guess when I'm eating cake or the next time I'm putting some shitty sugar into my mouth, shit, I am completely in control of who I am as a person. And you're defined by this past version of you. Total blind spot man. You're right though. That is a way that I talk to myself everybody does it

3:04:46 Yeah. It's not affecting my happiness. And then I'll have like an elk steak with some asparagus. Dude I'm eating nothing but healthy food. And then I'll have an elk steak with some asparagus. I am more happy. We look at that. It'll make it less effective right it'll make your brain work shittier when your brain is processing a giant bowl of pasta No way.

3:07:30 eating lentils rice but being very simple in what you what you eat and eating much less than what time did not mean three square meals a day. It meant going on these journeys where you didn't carbohydrates as your main fuel source, which is what you do when you eat a lot of carbohydrates, Kyle Kingsbury, who's a former UFC fighter. Eating oils, like coconut oils, avocados, things along those lines.

3:09:29 What about rice? It's easy for your body to process carbohydrates like this. with potatoes and I can go a long time without eating. some positives to consider about being in a state of ketosis so i'm trying it so that's where i'm at actually it's actually out there on the coffee extreme ownership thank you fascinating guy extreme You feel like a fucking prisoner.

3:12:21 I always wanted to be a singer. I'm not. I'm not broken cheeks blow. I'm not. Even if it's I've just allowed myself, my body, to take a break off that fucking insulin spike. Today is death sprints on the elliptical machine. And I forced myself to follow this weird pattern of discipline. I mean, it really is. Because of that injury I stopped working out and then because of that I use as an excuse and then I started like I just

3:15:15 Well, no. therapy like you're it's really cool. Now you're identified. And this is this one thing where you'll come in and come out of. a trainer because he forces you to like really work hard like way harder than normally i force myself to work out like a trainer makes you And write down what you can and can't eat. Right. in really good shape and then talk about how I did it.

3:18:10 you've said honestly man it's like to continue to be super personal the idea right now when i think don't drink that shit Some of it is okay. When you eat an apple, that's how you're supposed to get apple juice. You should watch it. versus someone who just tanks, starting at the end of March. Oh, you just summoned the crazy All the dates are there.

3:21:05 Thank you very much. You're always awesome. All right, Duncan Trussell Family Hour Joe you're the best brother you are the best thanks for this this was really powerful thank you very much you're always awesome thanks dude