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0:00 fighting the nonsense of the world ladies and gentlemen the godfather's back how are you buddy 100%. What do you mean become? I swear to God, if it gets 50 here, people start complaining. Yeah. here goes God being a Jew, not giving Joe Rogan a gift on his birthday. There you go, buddy. Well, I always equate it to snake venom. Exactly right. But you're a busy man.

3:02 So anyway, so once in a while, I get sucked into the trap. But in their minds, if I block them simply because I no longer want to engage them, Galling. Right. Right. Well, it's, you know, that's not a normal interaction. Beautiful. of it really being incredibly pervasive the way it is today, is you know ones and zeros binary code it's all all that data there's more produced in a day

6:55 through the complexity of this type of big data sets. So it's a really hot field in business Mates, yeah. The most interesting man in the world is that. than this guy. What do you mean? Well, this is a different sort of decision making thing. why by the way internet pornography for men is such an it seems like the brain It's not just a few. I bet if you

10:41 up to the window and read. avoid the pressure of getting those things done. And it becomes sort of counterintuitive. Have you? But I'd seen her on Gavin McInnes' podcast. The other way. I mean, sort of to mimic what you do with your podcast of bringing in so many interesting people. There was an article recently about Yale, about students at Yale having a hard time balancing out their responsibilities

13:19 I did an invited He was not, he was being divisive. College, which is an all-girls college. I've seen your shtick on it, and I was cracking up in my house. the title was, but it had something to do with It's what's going on. I think they're just, they're right now scrambling. Well, it's almost like a civil war, right? It's almost like He's going to win.

16:27 Don't make more taxes because more taxes just means more government and more government is not what we fucking need right now Use those to try to provide jobs and industry in poor communities. you get out of school. You've got state taxes. I just don't think it's a terrible idea. there's obviously some clear problem. And then everybody else that's on the outside that's looking in and saying, well, if you just followed the law, you wouldn't have those problems.

19:30 this economic I take him over the other ones. I mean, he's not very presidential in his mannerisms. He's a multi-billionaire. It's like, remember Ross Perot? Explained how you're getting fucked and I remember you know there was no internet back then so I remember me and some friends More informed meaning our culture is more informed. Meaning we're here in the age

22:40 And so to the extent that a lot of people are disillusioned with politicians, then this guy comes along and I can at least tap into that and hang on that element of his personality. Have you seen, have you followed our politics in Canada? He's got beautiful hair. in the world, right? this type of behavior Handsome fellow. when it's used in everyday language,

25:11 It's not ghetto in the sense of hip-hop ghetto. as i understand it so for example if you say you're ghettoizing people into different areas I'm guessing. Yes. But let me, if I could finish my point about Justin Trudeau. was, how dare you use the word barbarism in describing other people's cultures, right? So Have you followed some of our debates regarding allowing the sort of open, well, not open door, but allowing

27:47 The mayor of Cologne, after these attacks on New Year's Eve, to ramp up the police force or do something to stop it But see, that's so one of the reasons why I'm very concerned about the 25,000 that are coming in. What are your views on homosexuals? to engage in a discussion on how do we vet these people? You should never be allowed under the guise of hatred that's coming my way supersedes your right to practice your religion of genocidally hating me.

31:15 are unique, distinct, and equal in their own right. And actually, that is a truly, profoundly relativism, which is part, which is endemic of multiculturalism, is profoundly incorrect and it But the idea of numerical value, equal, making it equal, we're all cultures equal. And I think the social justice warrior thing is sort of a side effect of that.

33:37 Where fundamental religious values are superseding the age of information. Right someone who talked to God whatever the fuck it is that you got a problem a real problem there because you have stifled people just like i have a friend um and him and his wife they were mormons Like they're almost like grown-up children. Easily confused and easily led.

36:15 there who can give you the recipe, whether he be a self-help guru, whether he be a medical Now you develop these patterns in your mind. fundamentalism on a global scale because I'm not against God. And this is what people have can go through. exactly right now. to really carpe diem it, right? And that energy continues to move forward in a lot of that makes us alive and aware and makes our minds tune in to all of the possibilities

40:01 way to the afterlife, this is the only way to heaven, you've got a real problem. He sent me an email today and I watched this piece on cults and cult behavior and cults And when someone comes along and says, I do know and this is the truth, it becomes a real problem because you can't fucking prove it. You can't prove it. You don't have any facts And the best we can do is leave behind information.

42:14 That's why you and I have children. is part of Joe Rogan's memetic propagation. I'm going to take the intellectually honest position and say, the party's going to end. Nobody heard about it. Bigger than Hiroshima. It says that was the one over Russia. Pull up the article that I had on my Twitter, because it compared it to a pull up to the article that i had on my um on my twitter because it compared it to uh a nuclear bomb wow yeah well these are really common you know and i had this

45:25 It's called new it's nuclear glass Most people die. It's just, it's not going to happen. if religion exists, that groups that are religious So that's a byproduct of evolution. Now, religion piggybacks on that, right? And then a third way to study religion is to just do a content analysis of the narratives within religion. from an evolutionary perspective.

49:39 it makes everybody upset. It's because you're going to go to hell. Right. So listen, you don't that the idea of people living longer Kosher laws. Yes. easy earthly biological reasons to take food taboos, religious taboos, and demonstrate that they Exactly. So when he moves here... I'm here all the time. But anyways, I think in his book, he talks about, I don't remember the exact number,

53:19 So again, you see how something that is cloaked in the robe of religion is ultimately solving a very basic earthly biological problem. When animals become overpopulated, all of a sudden they start developing diseases and they fall off. and it's this is in a natural setting natural constant seven year cycle to regulate the There was a news story on the other day where these people were in their house, and the pigs were knocking over their garbage can and eating up their lawn in a normal residential neighborhood.

55:48 frog, many fish, although on that scale, they would be less so versus elephant humans, I mean, in the greater context of mammals, human dads are just outlandishly good. of time. We have to be able to stand one another for a sufficiently large enough period of time Here's another one. What's their life expectancy? All right. Oh, sorry, yes. I watched a woman in a video explain that women are not inherently weaker

59:00 play rough house and tumble, So some species are very sexually dimorphic. but sometimes you have a sexual reversal species, way even though they're supposed to be monogamous once in a while they go behind the bush genetic Exactly. where people get really upset at you and will send you hate mail. And that moral judgment is that it's one man with multiple women.

1:02:23 It's called Tibetan polyandry. Do you know where it is? Somewhere that sucks? It's called Tibetan polyandry. No, meaning that the woman who is being shared be guaranteed that their reproductive fitness is called by the way an operational sex ratio if there are imbalances between when it arises, it arises as a response to a real evolutionary problem. So every, I mean,

1:05:10 Fighter pilots are classically wife swappers. And if they love their wife And you both would do missions together. How's it go? In terms of violence and crime and... it's lebanese people no i mean it's always i know it's a stereotype but i truly don't know I'll tell you a great story about racial differences. present so the guy who was immediately before me is a gentleman by the name of philip rushton have

1:08:53 It's controversial research, Now, the good news is that immediately after he finished his presentation, out of the about 1,500 people who were there, about 1,425 left the room to find him. or is there just not enough time? that almost nobody stayed for my talk what's interesting about that is there's certain truths On an individual level. They can operate.

1:11:32 You know, we resist that because we don't want anyone thinking that they're dumber than other people. European. Well, I'm sort of European. I'm The genetic element is debatable. And I was coming out here to see whether I wanted to go and do my PhD at UC Irvine versus other schools where I had been accepted. I have an MBA from a top who was on the u.s national taekwondo team while he was in his residency as a doctor.

1:14:40 I mean, he did everything he possibly could. autocratic or dictatorial. And to the extent that some of my family members did not have that particular orientation, frankly, I didn't get along with them as well. these issues, maybe some university Well, they don't. literally, you know, music to my ears, what you're saying, because I just had this conversation

1:18:02 Because I know that the platform that you have, it'll take me 16,000 years to be able to even come close to achieving that type of... to get an education is to get a degree, to go, to sit in class, to do all the work the teacher prescribes, all the stuff that you have to turn in and all the papers that you have to do. That's It stifles a lot of exchanges of information because of these ideas these people have.

1:20:05 They're still looking into it. Yeah, I know very well. Oh, my God. But look at this guy. Sure. employee, the lower his or her cortisol level. And the argument, so you might say, his bodily functions, right? I mean, the amount of free destiny that he has in his daily life is Right. And the more guys that I talk to that have served will tell you that the reason

1:24:44 right. It's out of its control right that's why you see them So I think you can test that. like there's this big, you know, there's a persona that's attached. And I don't know if we've mentioned it here before. weigh-in which I doubt you could really tell that was published that what strategy just yet the betting line still did a better job overall in predicting fights compared

1:28:29 MMA fighters compared to a control normal population, non-fighters, I think there are a lot of people who enter into mixed martial arts or martial arts in general because they recognize there's a lot of benefit in trying to overcome extreme challenges. They're searching for a way out of poverty. if a really strong wrestler takes you down he can College, if they have a scholarship, they get it for free.

1:31:08 Math teacher. very intelligent guys speak multiple languages, So you get a lot of that, but you also get people that just, you know, they're just tough. Oh, sure. would be moderated by whether, objectively speaking, You think that's a viable hypothesis? Other than maybe your testosterone would spike because you would need the energy to run away from the crowd.

1:34:00 There's both. It could be- You were making fun of them, but that got them to gang up more on you. I've done that. We all seem to agree on this, that there's a moment when things are going really well, he's going through his thought process of what it would be like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. We're all like these thoughts that he's saying are so funny and we're all going along with it.

1:36:52 You're just laughing. there are certain elements of humor i mean clearly there are culture specific manifestations of humor That's what they prefer. And alt is a lot of times really bad, unfortunately. for and different access to people who are white males they they want to have as few white males as possible so they want to make it as diverse as possible

1:39:38 It's hilarious. But unfortunately, the other guy was of Croatian descent. There's a lot of that going on. Right. So you know what, Larry? Of course, you know what his answer would be to you? But he certainly seems to be quoting a lot of data Because if your dad's a fucking piece of shit Right. And I think he's trying to run for like, he's trying to be a police commissioner in Chicago,

1:43:08 uh i guess a directive from the 1970s when they were going through the archives of all the shit be addressed. And I don't think that affirmative action is the best way to do it because I think Let's suppose I actually don't want, I'm a person of color, you've gone through university, now you're talking about a much higher level of education, You're on the market.

1:45:57 Okay. So I'm not admitting whether that's true or not. No. I mean, think about that. Right. So I think that if you're looking at that, it really, it all comes down to what is it that's making certain people have less opportunity. and more people who are disenfranchised and who are stuck in these bad situations. thorny topic. Earlier, we spoke about the culture of achievement that we find that is endemic within Jewish homes. Yes. By the same token, do you think that other cultures might be creating

1:51:02 most important lessons you could ever learn as a human being. The more positive people you surround yourself with, You know, I was, I was, I had a bunch of knuckleheads that I was, that I knew and I needed to establish, you know, it takes a while when, especially when you're young. And there's all this hope and promise that, like, wow, I'm actually going to have a career now.

1:52:59 living in Newark, New Jersey when I first moved there, because that's where my grandfather lived, yeah yeah yeah she that was earlier in her life when she was mobile but she had uh she had had And my grandfather used to have to change her sheets, and she had bed sores because she would just lay in one place. I think even though the tiniest tiniest tiniest taste of

1:55:01 ridiculous. The idea of, well, the cops wouldn't be shooting these young black kids if they just didn't It's a way easier life. Well, because of doing this podcast, it's allowed me to communicate with some really fascinating people. And that's definitely allowed me to formulate some new friendships. I think that's his name. I would agree with that.

1:57:23 And these biological requirements that we Right. Yeah. By the way, you know what is a hormonal marker of the hugging? Yeah. And it didn't feel good like i wanted a fucker right Exactly right. the rates of depression in this very lonely place, but yet very filled place is much greater than the 150, precisely because there's a mismatch between the environment in which we've evolved and the contemporary environment.

2:01:22 so in your case as somebody who obviously is well known perfect example like you you start doing this podcast, Are you fucking crazy? And then I'll take them on the road with me like Tony Hinchcliffe is a perfect example And some people don't. become a part of their system and the they a lot of my friends who have had to spend time like alone, just thinking. And that's something that people don't like to do.

2:05:01 We're talking about things that can be done but oftentimes aren't Earlier, of course, your viewers don't know, i'm a guy's guy and i need right i, we need to be able to talk about certain things that not myself in other contexts, but there are of how busy my life is. Yes, I completely agree. That is almost the polar opposite of raising children and coddling little girls.

2:08:01 Yeah, well, you know we all huddle around it. It's odd to leave it. Yeah. of gender neutrality. And guess what? Little boys and little girls gravitate to exactly the same And so we were chatting on it, whatever, Because if the right man, if it's Johnny Depp or something is is pursuing you it's it's hot if Guys will tell you you're beautiful. Well, the problem is if you are unattracted to this man and he tells you you look good and you say, well, thank you.

2:11:51 And then he goes to work and you go to work and everybody's happy and you are friends. The thoughts, I mean, and managing those thoughts becomes incredibly tricky, which is why you amazing atheist was the recipient of that yes yes he's, yes. He's a YouTube guy. I know him. I was on a show. The Drunken Peasants. You know, he's like, what the fuck? Speaking of not sexual harassment, but continuing on that train of thought, I had a public exchange with a woman who is trying to pass a bill,

2:13:59 So the basic idea is that she's arguing that when you, And in the clip, I didn't mention her. She puts up this website. for being libelous and defamatory to me. So this woman thought that her putting up an idea in the marketplace of ideas and having somebody scrutinize that idea. It very, very quickly disintegrated on Twitter. From Lebanon. You tell your story.

2:16:59 safe the second i started i actually was satir saying, why are you attacking a brown man? Why are you attacking me just because I'm overweight? It's so stupid. I think, like, if you say you're a prince from another country and you want to take this person to your land and they will It's caveat emptor. You know what I'm saying? They wear push-up bras.

2:19:13 be rape by fraud? had said that he was ABC And as time went on, she's raping me. So you quit your job. That's the reason lover prize. I want your own pleasures of secondary nature. Come on. I'm a very giving guy Right. That's just a liar. But I mean, if you were engaging in a repeat interaction where you defrauded the person through a misrepresentation.

2:22:47 that she's establishing? You know what's interesting about this conversation in general. What you see is That's, I've seen that on the male side too. just generalize terrible things about women. Like, where did this come from? Over and over and over again to the point where he broke. where they measured the digit ratio and administered a scale of gender,

2:25:34 They've found that women in the workplace generally develop more testosterone. they start off with more or less testosterone? I don't know how they... Exactly right. also you believe everything is biologically determined, And it's very convenient to generalize instead. That's what they want. it's like real, like traditional values, but there's feminists that will look at that woman

2:28:51 You're a toxic male. beta males that cling to her and are attached to her, which are I can't wait. No, it's okay. that some of these sort of social justice warrior beta males are engaging in a form of sneaker fucker strategies I'm finished. You ready? In the third version, he's a famous, world-famous professor. No, it's not. I was in a photo yesterday with Dave Rubin and I did his show and so on.

2:32:31 Rubio, the presidential candidate. Yeah, there's so much manipulation going on there with image and so many different consultants. Jesus Christ. than, like, cowboy boots? Because cowboy boots That's not normal. That's by design. Who are you talking about? I don't know. No, it's not girly. And it was fucking spectacular. You should show his wife at some point. I'm sure she's hot name was. Yeah. Lionel Messi. Now you know. Okay. There you go. All right. Okay.

2:34:56 The guy's boring. leader you know they're hanging their head on this guy that most people see right through because He might be. it's like we need something better like this is stupid it's like we have morse code and we also But who makes the decisions then? Yes, 100%. I think it is already. I think almost no one now. Well, I guess the parliamentary system of Canada or Britain would probably be more akin to what you're talking about.

2:38:15 we need a number one primate, I mean, that's really what it is. into war. I just think that's less and less relevant today. And it's more and more relevant You were born in another country. they're all attacking him trying to get his iPhone. Yeah, okay. No, the former president. Bush the president? Yeah. Or the current guy? No, the former president.

2:40:23 A president doing commercials. I think one thing that would hinder them is the financial reward of being a president is really about those gigantic speeches that they give. the political system is in this country. But it doesn't matter. Well, I mean, they do all these things when it's campaigning season. What else would he have done it for? they're ancient.

2:43:35 is yeah yeah actually last time we were on i didn't know what that term was yeah yeah exactly were born. And that's where I was born. And these are just like second, third generation immigrants so you're Nigerian or you're Indian, you could be knighted by the queen.'s under the commonwealth so you're nigerian or you're indian place by people that had a very limited amount of information to work with. They didn't understand

2:46:28 you're talking about America. So one of the arguments as to why Americans seem to form So what might be some reasons? That seems reasonable. they they got in a boat and they they sailed away before they had pictures. Look at this drawing. I mean, that's a fucking, not even a and go to england oh it's too far but people that's a in comparison to our grandparents

2:49:24 I mean, we're dealing with a fucking beam each other up all over the galaxy. This is what makes this podcast so cool, to be able to have conversations with guys like and then my Open invitation Good night, everybody.