Joe Rogan Experience #780 — Sturgill Simpson Transcript

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0:00 Yes! What's up? I feel like it... Is there something wrong with that? What'd you do, Jamie? Why is that? For me, it was a slow one. So that was maybe like six months before news radio. Yeah. You know what I mean? So now that I'm older, I think that's been the best part of it is I'm clear and focused enough and I have enough responsibilities in my life to where I'm not taking it for granted.

4:00 i think for someone like you like it's great that you've got all this life experience. I think that helps so much, man. Why is that? insane breach like that they're just what what it must be like for him to That's insane. like my life's pretty cool now, man. Going in circles to kind of build it organically. i'm still getting over brian holtzman who's the guy that did the last set that night.

7:05 it was amazing yeah he's genius they ran Most spots at the comedy store. Wow. the little room too. That's where I first met him. He just doesn't get a chance It doesn't bother me. And he's, in my opinion, like one of the best ever at it. He was a meter man you got to do it all for him. Let's be kissy. it's just not it's good for some people and they don't have the ear things on that's what we were talking about before you came in about the fight podcast it could be a nightmare yeah realize how goofy it sounds when everybody talks over everybody i'll give you three people yeah and

10:53 and touring like a maniac have you uh settled that down to more manageable sort of a schedule Nashville in the first place to do anything without her telling me you can do this. tour right um so i did and other you know i think missing out what was going on at home and carrying some sense of guilt maybe for that because even though like i'm out here my dreams

12:52 i was in boston this weekend i come home on sunday and when your kids run up to you and jump in your Or they would tell you that you don't even know about life until you have kids or that. that it's like this mandatory aspect of life. Stay out of the business. Just drugs and sex and chaos. and screaming and chaos and yelling and fighting. and develop and you're sort of data crunching all this shit all these events in this child's life

16:03 Well, Yeah. Why does she get a new toy? You know, and you got to, like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. you out it's happening right now yeah i mean you know he gosh it was there for a while there was A little primitive child chess. teach the kids that's wearing around that but it is fine it really is the fuck are we doing For formalities. I think it comes from anxieties and stress-induced variables.

20:07 and they want to say, uh, but instead they replace it with fuck. People have that little weird roadblock He's a like-a-holic. He was on News... I don't do those. at a certain point it becomes i think counterproductive or even destructive because When you talk about certain things and you repeat yourself over and over again. but it's not a representation of what you talked about.

23:31 It's like, I don't know. They're also just trying to get you to click on their website. fucked a man when he was 14 you know you know what I mean like something like It's really just like a dork. Are they always looking for the outlaw country guy? I mean, that looks so stupid. Yeah. Dude, I just got into him a couple weeks ago. You should have him on the podcast.

27:15 that you hit it off with and but you never hang out because you're never at home so we've been It's like home base. Yeah. They go to bed at like eight Like Joey Diaz, who I think is the funniest guy of all time. just that i won't you know i'm just now getting to spend any time out here uh but i there's something because it's just the way it's always been like like holtzman like without giving any of his set

30:19 I mean, the dude with his girlfriend, I was just like, Martin Lawrence's bodyguard knocked him out. up punched some in the head knocks him out that was one time I heard but there I take her and he grabs an ashtray and I'll fucking crush her. That glass is probably still on that ground. person's perspective well a guy like holtzman is doing that on stage he's doing something similar

33:13 like, what's the fucking, what's the point? place he has this bit about hillary i can't give it away cathartic in a way yeah for sure definitely There's too many of us. I worry more about... Man, I watched about two minutes of that. In fact, I saw it a lot of times on Google, so I don't know where it started. Okay. Is it DLM land? on the other side of the valley.

36:21 to not do that and to give in to that massive debt. And they'd said, look, this is one way we can get rid of this debt. We can sell some see a grizzly bear and you see a fucking herd of bison you're like holy shit like this what is this i was like it's like a coyote he's like no no it's a fucking wolf man it's different it'd be bad bad You should check it out if you're ever out there.

39:37 But in the Teddy Roosevelt days, they were still like 50 years into pictures. So think about that. Fuck, man. I was watching this video the other day If I knew they weren't coming through the windshield. Yeah. I'd go see that. you get there and there's like 20 carloads of people standing out on the street with their cameras out and a ranger standing there saying,

41:25 This is it right here. This is the video sardonic about it. I was just like, this is amazing. This is it right here. Back it up, Jamie, because before that, Ran by her, yeah. the trail you know about 300 yards down i can see there's a couple buffalo right on right on the And it was grazing sideways with his hip towards me, and he's just eating. so water he just turns and looks at me and i'm like oh i'm so fucked and uh i didn't know what

43:54 He's going to charge me. No Sturgill Simpson. I like it way better than I like the idea of a zoo. and now you're 40 yards away from this thing. factors going on. There's like a little site that you have and you have to balance that site out There's so much going on. It's not fucking easy. But you've got to assume that if you hit an animal with an arrow,

46:53 And the thing was much better shaped than he thought it was. bigger than you is running up a hill with a tree growing out of its head. bears the wolves were trying to take the elk disappeared the entire pack but they were around him howling He said he could hear like 12 distinctly different howls around them. And it is if you don't live there. They snuck into this pack of, like, some of those elk packs in Wyoming, you'll get like 100 elk.

49:50 and they didn't eat any of them. people that have unrealistic opinions about wolves, it's all coming from a beautiful place. You better fucking read up on history. they thought that they needed to be before they would put them back on the hunting list. Well, they killed them, certainly, no other animals really had a very difficult time taking them out look at this there's the picture

52:11 I mean, you're standing there and I realized I'm, I've just put myself in a horrendously And they're, you know, that's a 1,500, 2,000 pound animal. But they're afraid of us. He said it was a huge six by six. Now we're taking it seriously. I know, but it climbed over barbed wire. But whatever. One of those things falls out of a tree on your head. that's a lion

55:15 are insane they're one of the strongest cats I'll kick a bobcat's ass. They would leave cat hair everywhere. Okay. It'd probably be terrifying. I've been to Canada. at that the weird ears yeah come on man that's like a narnia animal some turkish delight yeah Just earning. See if I'm right. in alaska there's one called mountain men and this guy runs a fur trap line,

58:46 fuck yeah it is and this is like a crazy sprint i mean they're both sprinting it's like how long Oh, my God. That's like you jumping on a dude. all in the course of 15 seconds from the time that martin got a hold of that rabbit that rabbit is And so he came in and went through the windshield and laid down in this creek bed after he hit the deer and lay there.

1:01:26 Jesus. Or maybe you do. And he did his residency To this day He doesn't play games Yeah. Miami's much more calm, the violence is not as bad, was which one of the things that he talked about was how one year the graduating class of the I think he went to prison and he's out now. Whoa. Oh, my God. light this up my ass big big ass one you know i mean i say it looks like christmas tree i don't

1:06:05 I don't know, man. because uh i think that's something that i've heard female emts talk about just their own Like emergency room doctors, how much do they just get accustomed to it? once in your life a few times in your life, or maybe even, you know, like, you can get desensitized. Combat medics? Again, I just try to sing in key, man. different than somebody else's reality and you're convinced that your reality is life

1:09:37 they're ruthless but anywhere that's it's too nice you get too many people right it's like we were no matter how long I was here, You see the oceans right there. It's picturesque. You see the ocean. The Redwood Forest. We went through the Redwood Forest and did all that man. So, the Redwood Forest. That does not suck. My buddy John lives in San Luis Obispo.

1:11:20 I don't think it's more than 100,000 He's in Los Feliz. He's also just, like, such a character. Oh, you never tried crank, bro? and asking questions he actually means it oh yeah yeah that's which is a rare thing in the music Waylon Jennings is in. Man. Cool to talk to. Yeah. A lot of people really like that song. You know what I mean? Really? you've tried to bare your soul and be as honest as possible but then you're standing in front of

1:16:35 Exactly. people feel good too um or to deal with things that maybe they don't know how to express like totally relaxed you know so you hear things like that and it's it's easy to get hung up on it's definitely contrary to what seems to be your primary focus which is making the best music for you for your expression the expressing yourself in the best way you can and making

1:19:15 It's out there. her records that's why i hired the dab kings for for this new one man just the sound of what they You've got to go home and roll around and play with blocks. your back as you're floating. I got a drum kit i got really okay and then you don't write a song for a year. Well, she seems very smart and supportive. She can recognize that. She knows there's just sometimes where i have to go and be in my own little space i just don't think you get to

1:22:31 world like you're like I was feeling like I was connected to the world in some really weird way It's obviously one piece. yeah on the way home they like to hear one song it's not not a bad yeah well you know all of my Van Morrison. If you've never heard that record, That's what he called his commercial album for a lot of people whenever I think That's a tragic story.

1:25:45 really dark story yeah like how so he's uh there was a lot of that him and his dad had things that dirty laundry, That was legal back then. so he had to move back in with his parents what as a grown-ass man and while he's marvin fucking out of it his dad shot him twice upstairs in the bedroom oh my god and then i think he laid there it is a terrible story

1:29:08 connection to what he's doing it's just so off the charts and a lot of times that's almost like some boring let's get it on Telling her how much Really? at that time really was blowing up I need to know. boned the realtor i'll take it well there was a house that was for sale that was wilt chamberlain's That's the 10th level of fuck. He's like, I'll fuck my dog, too

1:32:31 It might be one of those things that you just keep selling and buying, but it's really funky, like modern for the 1980s looking. What's something like that If that's in the Hollywood Hills, Look at him flipping houses all of a sudden. In 2007, it was $10.5 million. See? Bitch, I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about oh man 10 to the Oh, yeah. There was no stories written about it.

1:34:39 Like once there was too many different distribution methods? WikiLeaks and that kind of shit. but it sounds pretty heavy. I was like, man. I mean, we're all paying attention to it. I don't think they could do it anymore. And the government's not supposed to be in control of you. And that's some old shit that we just assume we have to stay with because it's been this

1:36:49 You're not going to be able to do it. It's not going to Like, what if they could just fire members of the Senate that have any say whatsoever on how you live your life. They were just like, yeah, this shit doesn't do anything. And they knew that there was no threat there and that it wasn't doing anything harmful to people. Dude, Erichman, surfaced This is Ericman's words.

1:39:16 We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify That guy's only concentrating on black people, though. Just like Wilt Chamberlain's up there But that's you know If you're Dick Cheney you can just shoot people Apparently you still can. R. Kelly. Holla. R. Kelly, allegedly. Do you know what that is? That's where they go out and you're basically guaranteed a trophy?

1:40:37 He wouldn't talk to anybody for like 16 hours afterwards. I walked in front of your bullets, bro. I mean, if that guy has an ounce of self-realization, It's not like there are a million immortals, right? So the guy has a ton of heart attacks, right? So if you put your finger on Dick Cheney while he had this artificial heart in place, Make sure that's true.

1:43:26 The guy didn't walk in front of you. technically has no pulse. Here it goes. Technically speaking, Dick Cheney no longer has a pulse. And this one, they put him on like this all-vegetarian diet, that was a sacrifice. And a lot of people think it's directly what's responsible for the Gulf War syndrome and all those guys, like, dealing with chronic muscle spasms and fatigue.

1:45:55 I think his last name was Crow. in the past is the precedent has been set a long time ago oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah i remember They don't have to tell you. That they can just shoot vaccinations in you and they don't have to tell you what they're doing. That's it? You know, because, I mean, anthrax, let's say, okay, let's say you get hit with weaponized anthrax.

1:48:00 a minute what that's so crazy this is legal that so crazy. I wonder if he took the shot. And that was something that they were never supposed to use. And they use that as a shell, and it just goes through everything. You shouldn't even be a mile away from that fucking Jeep. And he told me that when you look at a tropical environment, 100% of those people are infected with some sort of parasite.

1:50:42 You live in a nice... It's crawling up your asshole right now meat that wasn't cooked that well actually he was on the show his name is steve ronell he's a until someone comes along. went away and then it just you just deal with the fact that now you have trichinosis but like in The cat parasite? mass and there was millions of bats literally millions of bats in this cave. And so they parked out in front of this cave.

1:53:13 They got shit on and they got deathly ill Well, bring that raincoat, son. But bat, dirty bat shit shits on your face, Like you can get sick just from it contacting your face. But bat, dirty bat shit where there's so much life ecuador and peru to do ayahuasca like fuck that i don't want to go out in that damn jungle with The cliff notes is DMT. yeah

1:54:52 that goes to South America jaguar South America geographic podcast man they often times are you know a guy named Steve Mears Africa, Asia. That sounds right. I think so. Yeah, man. This has been a National Geographic podcast, man. Look it up. Do you know why Bear Grylls got that show? He put himself in dangerous situations. He would allow himself some string that he could go fishing with.

1:56:49 Like, if I found this sheep, I could take it and make a coat. Hanging out with hippos. Ray Mears. they want like uh ivory from and rhino horns, a big one. If they can shoot that rhino and make $50,000 from its magic horn, This show's called Bushcraft. It's called Bushcraft? in the woods or something he got food on your own. his own before you know before he was famous like he's been doing this forever

1:59:51 for those 30 minutes the biggest thing We did a whole episode on Bigfoot. It wasn't sensational in any way at all. I guess Mount Rainier. And filled with food. that was when the bering strait was connected so asia and the united states you could actually But I think they thought it was like 14,000 years ago until recently. For sure that's Bigfoot. that bears walk like that. So this one lady that I talked to, I bet she saw a black bear that was

2:03:29 there's like a little weird I know that was like Alaska and, um, he says that he heard some noise outside of his tent and he barely moved. They make like almost like a gorilla sound. Like within 100 yards, I watched them duke it out UFC style. believe in bigfoot almost as much as aliens as ufo reports aliens and ufos That's the one thing I want to believe in almost as much as aliens.

2:05:43 We don't want to go down that rabbit hole. Well. to study a fucking butterfly. Yeah, turtles. They've made better Tupperware. it's just make the tackiest record cover ever they are a very fascinating creature i mean anytime you The Fibonacci sequence manifests itself in, like, sunflowers. and honeycombs and a bunch of different designs like pine cones.

2:08:46 see, I got really into that band Of course I am. But he's very dedicated. I love that dude. Great lyricist, man. Right. He really knows his shit inside and out. Yeah, he did the whole thing from scratch. good spot for it so you're putting all this money up. coca-cola but it's making more than one bottle he's got several acres and he creates this art

2:12:20 Tool is probably at least two of those spots. category maybe i'd be wrong i don't know what you'd call it. Down, down, down, down, down, down, down the song Prison Sex? Yeah. You know, the beginning, When you're lifting weights and that comes on, you can lift more weights, man. It's a real feeling that you get. time signatures that they're alternating.

2:13:59 to the Fibonacci sequence. I haven't done it either way. I don't know how they say it. I think his name is actually on the recording itself. But like the tourists going down there and drinking that shit, And then you're going to get legit shaman, people that are legitimately involved in the spiritual quest of attaining enlightenment and reaching a neighboring

2:16:36 And it's very difficult for you to say that you know for sure You're just making noises with boom get shot through a cannon to the middle of reality and that middle of reality is some strange Infinite you feel to the left and to the right infinite you feel above but you also feel And it's easy to be cynical. way to go meathead. It's easy to dismiss it.

2:19:56 And with that note ladies and gentlemen Get to finally get the new band out of rehearsal space and see what's going on. because you get there and you do it and you wait mellow laid back vibe and the Union crews So when is this going to be on? He's a great guy. We've got to do this more often. Later.