Joe Rogan Experience #781 — Kevin Rose Transcript

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0:00 What's up man? Is this it? You picked it up over your head, it's greasy and kind of bristly. So, but you know, whatever, it's kind of, it's when it's your baby. And this time, I don't know if he had babies. Well, San Francisco, believe it or not, at least the outside edges, has a bit of a mountain lion problem. You don't want to tangle with a mountain lion.

2:41 right? Yeah, they typically just take off. Like there's some that are like kind of domesticated where they, Like mine was a kitten. It's not even that I had to break it. All right, we have to trap them. They'll kill them. It would run away again. We're cool, right? Why not? It would be amazing, the bond you would have. I know thought that'd be kind of a fun thing. Fuck that, man. Why? Why not?

5:12 That'd be a good weekend project. That could be death. Yeah. i was in montreal and there's this amazing restaurant called joe beef and um they serve And so it's a lot of like film on your mouth after you get done eating it. No, that's mutton. Yeah. It is tasty. Bummed it out. I know they can measure protein content somehow. And they know that like some animals, like I think

8:15 it's pretty oily though. Uh, no, it's not. No. Well, it really depends on how you prepare it in Now you're going the other way. Is it tough? But a bear is almost like gushy, like when they die and when you pick them up, they're like a fat person. That's what bear tastes like. on Thursday. And I'll have it frozen for you charismatic megafauna. Where if you say you eat bear, there's a bunch of those animals where my friend Steve Rinella calls them charismatic megafauna.

10:31 So I have a friend that collects butterflies, one of those those cases so you can see them yeah and when you first walk in you're like okay And it's, you go there because there's so many butterflies on you. But they die We're good. Yeah, I think a week sounds about right. It's such a strange thing that nature can create all of these beautiful designs and shapes and just different forms of life, you know?

12:30 Oh. I like bugs. Right. You know, they're not going to let some mosquito just bugs. Like most vegans will slap a mosquito. Right. And then it gets up to weird animals like bear. And was she only fallen fruit, like fruit that has fallen off the tree? She's probably in her late 60s at this point. You know, like she didn't even like her kids. Like she didn't have a good relationship with

15:06 I think everybody agrees on that. despite the fact they're like, Wild pigs. You have hundreds of millions of acres and you have wild pigs. of a small toy poodle. Didn't they always have this place yeah but my interaction with la is going to the comedy store in the improv going That's how you get them though. Hammocks for them. I didn't see them. and I'm like, this is like some Lord of the Rings shit man

17:59 They're all the same thing They grow tusks. It's a very strange animal. Well, they eat a lot of carbs, I think, right? a very dangerous environment right like the mountain lion issue is a big issue And see, coyotes can't really take out a full-size deer. I had a friend that got it here a couple years ago. Yeah, tall socks. I had a buddy that had to go on hardcore antibiotics right away.

20:45 The doctor didn't want to believe that the kid had Lyme disease. That's brutal. to get his perspective on it. There's some sort of neurotoxicity to this Lyme disease when it So do you go out to the East Coast at all then? that make sure those ticks don't come off and get onto you. And you gotta be careful. It's no joke. always the argument about vaccines, too.

24:25 But if you're one of those one out of a thousand people eight, 10 months and I don't wash my hands sometimes and it's disgusting. you have turmeric as a stressor, you have that's a stressor. You know, you have green tea is a stressor. You have turmeric is a stressor. Yeah. fucking severe cold winter and you get that cold water in the winter. That's real cold

26:35 Well, it's great after yoga in the winter. right like non-stop yeah it's like a hot fucking wet blanket on your face but um the there's there's and then put all 10 bags of ice in there uh submerged myself You're not always going to stay up pegged up there and be like a whole new person. So I've been researching people that have done this for hundreds of years now

28:50 So you can't give us a taste? No. It's fascinating. It looks cool. read and listen to Rhonda And you can feel it after a couple of weeks. Or, you know, just like a little bit, my mood was just crazy good. Norepinephrine. Just a little, just a little. It makes the sun feel better. done to his mood. It's fascinating. And what was he saying? What's the one where they chop your head off?

32:37 It's a, that study this form of meditation and Buddhism Not the grappler Gracie. guy they call like the Michael Jordan of of jiu-jitsu yeah because like jiu-jitsu called Choke, and it documents Hickson competing in the 1994 Japan Valley Tudor. He went over They're like, fuck this. Right. I put an oxygen meter on my finger when I do the breathing exercises.

35:14 Yeah. It's like a, you know, those little meters that they clip on you when you go to Not only is it amazing, it's also, we'll be here in one hour if you use Postmates. I guess. You know how there's those people that get into video games like Farmville and all that, and they spend like hundreds of thousands? They, they like my dad, uh, before he passed away, um, he started, you know, as he was getting into his seventies, started doing just more QVC shopping and just stuff to shows

37:19 Super dangerous. money. But if you send that money, God will multiply that money tenfold. And they'd have $5,000 suit on. He's probably driving The old ones are worried about death. sort of a window of cognitive function that starts to close, and it's very hard to perceive. What's going on and those those types of people like man? Did it actually take you to CNN?

39:48 They're angry at me. Just let's go with America. it from the beginning of time since they started taking pictures of planets all those planets the you bang it against this steel, you can make a fire. And some conspiracies that absolutely do exist, whether it's William Randolph Hearst, whether It's just going to happen until the end of days. Yeah. How did they?

42:38 But there's also some weird shit that absolutely exists that they can prove on Earth, like Weird. Yeah. Yeah. So that's probably right when we were filming fear factor in Way back in 2000. So it doesn't break any treaties, but they can figure out the yield based on the tests that they do. had to expand the area that was forbidden to trespass on? It was weird because they were just...

45:52 You'd walk in and they'd have, Well, I think they probably feel like no one can go there. Um, it was department of energy, which handles all of our nuclear program. Has to physically touch it. So if you want to get to Groom Lake, there was one other guard station just outside of the Sedan Crater. and then Department of Defense can come in and take it over

47:34 That's so crazy. We had to wear a little dosometer around our necks. It had already kind of all cleared out. think that the government had any government projects, like other And I think they were experimenting just based on the skill sets that were going out there on kind of anti-gravity related stuff. I would love to go see what an underground base looks like.

49:35 so you have to know how to use these emergency packs in case. more climate controlled. But they go down underneath the ground to do some of these Well, this one in particular was used for experiments, so it wasn't like a permanent thing. that's kind of just underground forever. Like someone goes, well, how are we going to contain the explosion? And then they just went with it.

51:40 It's called Operation Starfish Prime, where they detonated a nuclear bomb in the atmosphere Crazy. Yeah. And this picture pops up. Jamie, see if you can see that, detonated nuclear bomb in the ocean. I mean, what in the fuck? There's one of them. firecracker right and then this is an m80 it's here's the video. Yeah, this is the big one. It's a fucking, it's a mile into the air.

54:46 1950-something? That's crazy. I had heard that he was a contractor and the story wasn't all that. Well, he's one of those guys that if you're a dummy What, I don't even know if he gives interviews anymore. Or I don't remember. It was weird because he was never in any of the official, like catalogs orD or something like that? I don't remember. pay attention to but it's one of those things where you're like man i'm not really going to

57:18 in a year or so. We're the only one that knows how to use the Internet. We kind of invented it. They can talk and whatnot. It's weird to be the top being here. And he tried to communicate with the dolphins. a lot of people when you think of the imagination you think of oh he's making things up in his mind You were sober. You weren't on ayahuasca or anything. No, I was high as fuck. And not only was I listening to these people speak this strange language, but I understood.

1:00:12 which is four to five times more psychoactive than THC, which is why a lot of people think Yeah, you can eat that for sure. And even in candy form. It was very brief. It was very brief. And then I realized what I was doing. Then I woke up and I of years of life right so if that is the case some of that is probably tucked away inside your jeans interesting and there's this

1:02:59 Like when I'm talking about certain things, like say if we're talking about, you know, whatever, psychedelic drugs or monkeys or anything. So you're just saying it takes a little while for the folder to get open. I hate that. It's always been that thing. And why is it enhanced by certain compounds like paracetam and things along those lines? and that we're living in the trees and that these cats are jacking us and

1:05:43 and all these other it seems like that's the hot thing everyone's doing these days. Well, and it can be more profound even because it lasts longer and you have it's a really interesting documentary because it deals with a lot of scientists and their experience with dimethyltryptamine and trying to understand what this compound is and why it exists.

1:07:57 And what ayahuasca is, is an orally active version of DMT. Because DMT is insanely common. You have to just know what you're doing. If you smoke the acacia tree, do you get the DMT? But it's entirely likely that there's a method of doing it. for you though oh if you eat like juicing it ju't. But it's supposed to be really good for you, though. Oh, interesting. If you eat it, like juicing it. Juicing it.

1:10:19 Like wheatgrass juice, they do it with cannabis. take the roots or the vine of another plant which has the dimethyltryptamine in it and they boil it Right. from that little pig, that little tiny pig that's got a guitar in his lap, you know, It's a lot of bacon. and this deep canopy of moisture and nutrients and plants and bugs and mammals and Yeah. You've never tried it before?

1:13:22 Yeah. They was fucking DEA hustle. So you could just order it? that have psychedelic properties to them, whether it's mushrooms and, you know, there's a lot of mushrooms that you can eat that. And I think that there's certain things that we can take that activate other senses that we didn't know were there and allow us to do certain things. these scientists to feel like they were experiencing some sort of communal thoughts. And so they wanted to call it telepathy.

1:16:23 data released it publicly but people are dreaming the same thing on the same night. I'm curious as to what it is. It's just like an app for people that like to catalog and keep track of their dreams. Imagine if dreams are like a gigantic cineopolis. Fuck, man. No. Cool. precious to me. Like I need at least six hours to be functional. Oh, I'm the same way. And if I

1:19:02 There has to be a two hour window for me every night. Also, Apple just introduced this in the latest version of iOS. i ran there was this um this uh this futurist convention in new york city a few back a few My wife was wearing these wacky glasses for a while. that was it would filter light so like the blockers yes in a way yeah but it was designed specifically to calm the interaction of your eyeballs with like, yeah.

1:21:01 Those were the things, right, after the Terminator? Yeah, I assume. they're probably pretty commensurate. But there's also some benefits Yeah, I mean, Amazon, I wish that it would catch up So if you're on a plane or something like that flying over the ocean, you're kind of fucked if you want to watch Netflix. What do you use it for? And it just automatically sends it out.

1:23:39 Yeah. of Siri? That's what they call it. for a while. It'll reappear. my problem with it. I just, I realized It's just there's some new laptops, Where do you store things on this? You can't it's all that loud what you can't the fuck out of here that stuff. What is that? That's where it has gives a shit i saw yeah there was a sticker i want to get it said like the cloud is really just

1:26:13 It's just someone's computer. What would be a good replacement? Like, you can never lose your data. mode, it's still going to be there. You're not storing anything. I thought the interface Hey Siri, Yeah? Yeah, I feel like I want to fuck around with other platforms just because I've just been such an Apple dork. Yeah. These things are bulletproof. Oh, that's a MacBook Pro.

1:29:17 When I'm reading, like, when I don't have my glasses on. I just bought a book. kind of an expert in physical movement and she's got a lot of interesting ideas a cast. but it just it's taking over you know like look just look around you like take one day and when Every fucking person is in there reading a newspaper. But they're all fucking reading the paper.

1:31:51 I want to turn off well, I'll leave that tab open Like eight hours ago? I just, I'm also a fan of self-discipline. Yeah. Somebody calls me. But there's levels. Then level three is like I start going into social media. Do you, are you involved in it at all anymore? Yeah. I mean, technically I'm kind of an advisor I'm gonna jump out the window. but it's interesting because I'll send someone a dig link and

1:34:34 See, I've always wanted to bring back MySpace. again. I know. out of there, though. There's a lot of people out there, hardcore Windows fans. They love that. play video games on a They don't have really anyone doing super high-end gaming on their rigs, so that's not their game anymore. I don't think they were doing SLI, no. But I know people have done it.

1:37:20 It was always a war like that. You know, go Cubs. Yeah. get into something and really into it they're hesitant to change like anything that you change You make any changes there and you have revolt on your hands. which the site is today. properties, it's like, if you can last five years, it's amazing. If you can last seven, Someone aggregates all this interesting, weird, bizarre shit.

1:40:28 in television on tech TV, and some of the other stuff that we did, it was always about producing Right, exactly. used for at least a month so i can tell you you know there's a lot of that kind of like i get worth their time. And so I want to put a lot of effort into that. So, well, that's a great way What is it? There's.xxx. Ooh, look at you, Jamie.

1:43:15 we've had Wi-Fi units that it's like one base station We're not going to make one master massive base station. own dedicated little wireless signals to and the front room. Yeah, there they are right there. And then I actually really... use a desktop to set it up at all. it work with the Better, huh? But there's a feeling that you get when you're at the top of a mountain.

1:46:24 Do you think there's going to come a point in time where there is no longer any privacy? Yeah. more data and more access to each other right and each other's data and eventually that means that comes to free services. Like you can't expect to be a private person if you're getting something then you go look to the corner of your, and I'm like, thank you very much, Google,

1:48:48 It's not terrible. Well, I guess it could be. Yeah, that's forbidden by the terms of service. fetish. You'd be like really into shoes. you're thinking the Nike sneaker collectors He wants to try to find them. I used to collect old microprocessors. That's history. I don't know what the number is, but it was around Windows ME, because I remember I was making game computers

1:51:10 Super geeky days. It was strange because you could send files to each other. like, you know, I was in a clan too. and we'd have like a window open. Remember the instant messenger? each other little ICQ messages yeah high up in the hills The pings were awful to everywhere. Yeah. Oh, you were using TV stuff. Wow. Crazy. completely addicted, 8 to 10 hours a day playing

1:54:27 and I can't even fuck with it today. that if I just fucking blew a fuse one night I won't. It looks a lot like old Quake. Because they like Call of Duty and stuff like that. off. When does this come out? He's fighting the devil. Death match. We used to all meet in Houston. I forget what it was. Just waste them. whatever it is. even though, you know, they had 50 ping and you had zero.

1:57:13 He was on the screens. There was Thresh. I played a few of them online and just got fucking decimated. There he is up in the upper left-hand side. He's got a channel. The StarCraft, right? That was my bread and butter right there, You have to know your order in which you build things. Oh, my God. Five? I mean, you know, just to experience it one time.

2:00:32 That's 101,000. Yeah. That's incredible. Those guys are serious athletes. Yeah. I can't. I'm more going for the... We'll fist bump and fucking go our separate ways There's not enough time in the day Right. I was at Disneyland. Right. Turkey legs. Stone ground. And plus, I bring, I don't have any here. It is sweet. No, it's a different company. So if you haven't heard it.

2:05:23 same. Like I would get fucking famished I would have to have some fruit before I worked out. insulin sensitivity and, you know, your body's just processing a fuckload of sugar. I was just testing after I would eat certain foods. And so I really wanted to see what wine would do with ketosis. or do you just go on the way you feel? Primarily on the way I feel. I would always tell when I

2:08:10 You must be like super sensitive. I had to take it out of the thing and stab myself with it. What's the best way for you? Uh, for me it's, it is the tips of the fingers, but like, you know, I would go right to the tip. It's like the coating is like the bottom of your feet. Yeah, I just don't check it anymore. Like if I can just keep this, whatever this is,

2:10:20 Oh, now I got to shit my pants. Half day. Yeah, I've done 12, and I guess that's not enough. fully gone cancer. Isn't that interesting? It's crazy. Yeah. He did not tell me about the steroids. He's fucking jacked. I'm also sure he was without a doubt manipulating his hormones. up out of bed and he is fucking jacked i mean is it possible to get that big without steroids

2:12:56 they just come in. he's like whoa and uh you know it's it's really kind of in some sort of a weird gray area you know And in the USADA website, there's all these different supplements that contain products No, that's a good point. Anyone who thinks you're gonna achieve that kind of results without some sort like, like I said, like how old's Hugh Jackman?

2:15:40 There's a lot of these guys that are on something that has an it's insanely short half-life And we've exposed, or I shouldn't say we. and then with exogenous chemicals. It is interesting. and he was definitely juicing uh and he was he said that the big bulky kind of crazy over the top look as opposed to like a Lee Haney where he works out nothing but his arms for eight hours wow his arms are massive yeah he's everything's

2:18:52 That's a regular size guy at a lot of like high level gyms. No, that's attainable, man. comparison to some of the people of today. Look how big he is! That insane that's all drugs and dedication and focus and lifting a hundred percent I mean you I mean, you have to be a maniac in the gym on top. And they don't want anybody looking at them. They start to freak.

2:21:15 So he was on a ketogenic diet. the benefit of doing that 16-hour fasting about this. You know, there's another, And he's a fucking doctor. of phytonutrients and certain vitamins to combat cancer and he doesn't stay on top of the cutting Documented, like 100%. They have DNA photos, camera trap pictures of it. in the Congo. It's called the Bondo ape. It's like this enormous chimpanzee documented like

2:23:34 show you photos because there's this giant chimpanzee that they found this There's some better ones of it. That's one of them walking upright. many of them there are and they don't have any of them in captivity they don't know how many there Yeah, the fasting thing is, I think it's starting to come around, though. go into chemo and world of difference and so it was this doctor put out a bunch of papers and you

2:26:23 So there's benefits going into chemo too, which is nuts. Have you had Peter Attia on the show yet? He's been on the Tim Ferriss show. Yeah. and I did the podcast with him and I really started talking about the, when he really started trick yeah but we never used to eat it like that we didn't refine it to the level that we do now look at it. It's moist. You know, I love chocolate, and I've started to eat 100% chocolate.

2:30:02 And the reason, I was talking to a chocolate maker, Yeah, they ship. Has a little bit of caffeine in there as well. chocolate bars the whole foods like dark chocolate like 80 and he just we came home and the wrappers I mean, he's a small little labradoodle. The little heart. Is it really? Like the lesser, like almost all sugar bars with milk don't have a ton of chocolate.

2:32:13 That's a good chocolate though. I try to, I'll do mangoes occasionally. My concern was like what is the diet that my body functions the best on? Cut all that stuff out. That's what I should do because when I get knocked out, I'm in a slump. I just had it delivered. Just pour it in the water. It's not Gatorade, but it's not awful. Keto OS is fine. I mean, it's not the best tasting stuff in the world.

2:34:21 Like, is that all real? It's the way to go. It's funny, man, how many people fight like cats and dogs about this online. it's like a 20% boost in just mental clarity and sharpness. My vice? But I tell you what, man, after I ate the tortillas, I had some dessert there when I Didn't bring any with me. They're all fun. I'm good at that now. So do I. Well,

2:37:33 Yeah. That helps a lot. Although I hate that word blessing. This is going to be fucking awesome. the people, the entrepreneurs that go after things that they're really personally passionate about, It's their life's work. that's, Even if I'm not interested in their interests, what I mean is like, if I'm listening to a Moleskine are the worst. They're the worst? They're the worst.

2:40:13 You write on it. Is there any one that I can buy that's made down here in the U.S.A.? Look at this. No, no, no. Sorry. I know. Moleskine in the wrapper. There's Bear and Fig. What's that? The seer. What am I looking at? Opens flat. It'll work with any pen type that you throw at it. this is one that they have a little one R-H-O-D-I-A that you buy at the supermarket.

2:42:55 at the end of the day none of it matters like we're running on staples right now who cares No, I do not have a fountain pen. I'm only giving you a hard time. My own what? Do you have like a Harjo V60? It works great. Oh, there you go. Everything comes from Colombia. single family single source company where they know the people that are growing this coffee.

2:45:35 so he does something he ferments his coffee beans so he ferments them for i think three or four And then it's done and he serves it to you with like two hands. Did you pour sugar in it? This is keto cream. But it's just like, for me, it was so sweet. No. Did you like it? No. I didn't know that. Right. And he's not really a scientist when it comes to that stuff he's just a collector of ideas and then redistributes them and puts that word on them

2:48:18 And then we spent a shitload of money trying to find out whether or not that was true. And then they started growing it in these other climates, like in South America. They solved that a long fucking time ago. So some of the single origins that you can buy at some of the fancier places are still Is it a type of Ethiopian coffee? No, Caveman sends us different stuff all the time.

2:50:50 And they also have this nitro. You can weigh some of it. I don't like to use his name. It's just too bad that the guy's a dork. Like his grass-fed whey and a lot of his other stuff. That's a lot. This is rocket fuel. Yeah, thanks for having me. And it's cool to actually It's got a good vibe to it. It's great. You're not going to do to bring it back.

2:53:09 I see him every few months and it's just a matter of trying to find a venue and we want to do a live show if we're going to do it. Why would you want to stop that? Why? I don't know that anything would get done. You know what? Bring this too. Yeah, just don't know. I think we'd just be too dumb. I just, I don't know that anything would get done. I'll get some.

2:54:11 Every month is just something different. Awesome. We'll be back on Thursday with Rick Doblin, the director of MAPS, Multidisciplinary Something See you.