Joe Rogan Experience #783 — John Dudley Transcript

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0:00 Dum-dum-dum-dum-dum. I'm pretty good about doing homework, so I love your podcast. He's got a podcast. they get into archery You're gone. to even hit a target at 100 of the gorilla kettlebells from on it yeah this was uh so we'll play this here My idea is to put them right here on this shelf, and I've got a curtain right behind so hopefully it'll so I actually sighted my bow end to i hit four and a half inches high from

4:22 um that that's insanely hard to do. They like remember that they tried it once and they loved it, but they hit their arm. You peel some skin off if you do it the wrong way. In martial arts, when you see someone do something, straightforward, like, oh, yeah, you pull the string back, and then you let the arrow fly. There's no room for relationship bullshit.

7:50 I'm not worried about a problem at home. I'm trying to narrow everything down to just a movement. state of total complete concentration exists in a bunch of different disciplines and i you know He's from the Philippines. It's just blah, blah, blah. It says that there. Well, this is definitely not him. This is a some overweight gentleman But he was like, blah, blam.

11:07 Sweet. There's so many to where I could help Hunger Games. I mean, you look at the Avengers. And we actually have a phenomenal Olympic team here in the U.S. So they like the techie side, which is where compound bows come in. has like geeky stuff, like different kinds of sites. And this is a new cam that they just came Got to see the original recurve bow of like J-Bars was actually on display. And they constantly change them.

16:16 a hundred yards and shooting through that two inch opening into the kettlebell handle? 50 meters, 70 meters, and 90 meters. is where we would stand on the line and shoot at. um, had one or two here in the U S but you know, that year, I think I logged, I mean, I shot two, insane yeah yeah I mean and there's professional archers. There's archers. I the Olympic training centers that are just there.

20:13 And a lot of people make the mistake, I think, with any sport of just trying to practice more or train more. you that yesterday too. There was a time where I said, you know, if, if we're just out here getting Yeah. one of the most important things that i learned as a and that's what we're practicing with and difference between pulling a trigger and then

23:12 I did it yesterday and today. happened yet. So, um, a guy came up to me one time after I made a bad shot and he could tell You make a decision. Like it's flying through the air and either it hits the bullseye or you missed. And I think you coming from professionals or coming from sports rather, sports background, you played a lot of football. and kicks ass in football.

26:32 are like, they don't have good coaching. And so they start off with a lot of really bad habits. the beginning, their instinct would be to throw it correctly. The instinct, even when tired, knee comes up, hip turns over, body extends, full power. confidentiality and whether or not they're working with an outside source, we're not going any further. go ahead. I'm going to like pack up my gear. Well, once the whole big crowd left, those same eight kids were still over there with strings pulling on that release. And almost every one of them were

31:05 And the reality is you have to have commitment and you have to have discipline in anything in life. And then I should point out to a lot of people that there's a lot of people that don't want Very fun. hopefully you can't hear that. This is dang good. By the way, when Joe does his commercials, Oh yeah. Matt is unbelievable. He was in a motorcycle accident, and now he's a para archer.

34:12 until it triggers the string to fire and as he moves back he's still looking through his peep And I learned to shoot. The past is the past. good at something is to do it with your opposite hand. It's even faster. Back when I was a skater, you either skated straight foot or you skated goofy. and still perform the exact same tricks. I call it selective cycling.

38:34 What is the difference between field archery? you know, aiming down or somewhere I've even had to aim straight down between my legs. you call it I always laugh at the rubber it's but um you were shooting amazing and then you would now completely different world and you also much like we were talking about before in the UFC, you have to be able to pretty much execute from both sides. It's

41:15 how it continually evolves. two people are engaging each other with there's the possibilities of attacks and But still was hitting the booze, you know, still wasn't eating healthy. He was on statins for his blood pressure or cholesterol, I guess. I'm blown away. never thought of it that way i thought of it as like oh that guy knows how to cook this guy makes

44:20 there's parallels. So much more than that. But I think almost labeling these things in any other way than just calling them what they mean. that. And it's important. And that's what I was trying to like work with you on is Some of the releases that I was using, he won't let me use. just focusing on the target. All of your technique as far as keeping the bow balanced and level

48:27 it's like a fight in that when a fighter trains for a fight, It's happening. that moment is entirely alien. This moment didn't exist during any of the practice. They become ingrained in your genetics. okay archer number one one arrow archer number two one arrow closest to center decides a gold can just, you instantly know that you screwed up. And, you know, and I've been that way as a hunter

52:36 Like for me, that's what I think for you and your mentality and me and mine, with life, is these small little goals and accomplishments that I've had evidently was shuffling to try to get to see the archer, not realizing like, okay, there's an arrow you know, I got into that tremor mode. Like, you know, what you have when you, when the anxiety And he freaking pulls back, and he goes, what the F?

55:39 And if you don't know, like when you're looking through a site of an archery, a bow, archery sites are very small. yeah i was like what is up with this did what i did at the pool today doink forget to have the I don't want to be on the receiving end of that. I got this bow from Hoyt. You laugh about that. He travels a lot anyway. See, I get three buck tags actually, I'll guarantee you he would do it. He loves Oregon. He travels a lot anyway.

58:07 hunting pastime in america more people hunt white tails more people spend more time hunting white Yeah, to make a nice meal. one hunt where I felt so much anxiety and I like blew a shot and I just completely missed and I couldn't And it was all foam animal targets with scoring rings on them. time that I had a very clear wake-up call of maybe you're not good enough to be doing this,

1:02:27 lot of guys here were shooting and a lot of those guys were in the range. And I just started asking because I forgot to do them. And I said, I don't know how to build arrows. And he goes, okay, never even built them, built them for the guy. And so he goes, all right, good job. And he goes, on it there's so many people that make businesses out of dreams or careers out of sports that you would never even consider.

1:05:42 And I'm with the president of the university or something. Yeah, exactly. But then Oh, yeah. And that's sad. And it's difficult to work hard at something. If you're working to improve at something, whether it's archery or jujitsu or anything, when you're working to improve on it, And you were on there twice about just almost like what you just talked about, just a positive – it was just a positive rant that you had about all people have to do is make a step in a direction. And you might, you know, you might look in the mirror one time and you don't like what's there, but you know, you have the opportunity to turn around and go a different way. And one thing that I really try to drive to people, because there's

1:11:07 it's like two days they're gone well it's so common too yep yep and you know if you're if you're at that stage and you're at the point where you're like you know what i want to change myself not trying to glorify the past and say they had it nailed and we don't, as far as like maybe been alive longer or maybe had more experiences but very honest about the

1:13:42 I was on one of X amount of comedians on You said it. I think a lot of other people think that way now. you're practicing, but how much of that, what you're doing, has the aspects of the obsession with a discipline like archery or like jujitsu or think something along those lines. committed to this path of not being excited, not being obsessed, and then not challenging

1:16:23 For me, it was stand-up comedy or martial arts. You're never going to feel that. And the thing is, too, you have to be able – when you've made that decision, the next thing that you should come to terms with is say, you know what? I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to get ready. You need to also think, you know what, there's going to be, And when he was in there and they're, like, telling him that he should be going, he's like, no.

1:20:06 I'm at in archery, they're like, well, he never won that much. You know what? I'm probably lost and that worry can overwhelm your And I remember getting there and I just I closed my eyes on that last arrow. you see flaws and you see mistakes. there's some hunting shows out there if someone wanted to make an argument against the ethical use or if you're going to maybe do something to where it'll at least let them keep an open mind.

1:24:30 Oh, But what about people? Except people that make parking lots. They never have an obvious way to like get to the strip mall that's right next door. don't want to jamie we're moving you ready to move jamie's thumbs up from jamie what's that I really think that there are a lot of different martial arts schools and i've been involved in a bunch of them and i think that uh teaching martial arts is

1:27:25 in archery. Yeah, but I would have to most certainly have people that were there that were really good that could teach classes and teach people how to do it. So when you look at him as opposed to that picture that you sent me of the archer that's on television that has an arrow that he's pulling back. somebody looked at it, and they were so careless that they went,

1:29:26 like having your original lessons, the first lessons you get, imprinting correctly. And they're both owned by the same people now, right? aren't really necessarily wanting to say I'm a hunter, but I'm an archer. And so much of what Yep. And then this year, the Knocked and Ready to Rock segment is all about like learning to that. I'll show you how to do it.

1:32:07 They don't think of themselves as being the shit yet. sports psychologist. I actually, I have a, I have a big ADD problem. I'm very, but it also has been And my issue is what is ADD? it was like questioning, questioning, questioning. And I remember like reading through this thing We never suspected anything. They argue that it's more. It means attention deficit disorder.

1:35:19 That's not attention deficit at all. Is it ever anything that you're really interested in? Like you can even see it in your children. And they both also have that same variety good for them. And I think we could like when I was in high school, they always said, Oh, I have time for Spanish history. some for some strange reason our need to diagnose certain styles of thinking and certain styles of

1:38:35 And I literally want to run up a tree. in different shit and formalized education in a lot of circles and a lot of schools is just too limited for some of the kids in class. Oh my God. And I'm like, you just gave him a green monster at 8 in the morning. sized servings. Could be stop selling you some shit and saying it's more than one serving. If it's a box, that's multiple servings.

1:40:53 Is it? you're eating candy. He goes, no, man. I go, how many grams of sugar in that? And he goes, And I'm thinking, you just had 40 grams of sugar. It was glorious. But good Lord, because I haven't been eating that way the crash after was over it was devastating If you've got an option of something good or something crap, there's some people that just like go right for the crap.

1:44:33 And a lot of times I'll like wake people up and I'll say, okay, I was waiting for that to happen because now is when I want to talk about the importance of nutrition during performance. to eat till five o'clock. And then all of a sudden their scores just start to peter out and they want to like pound two or three burgers because they know that they're not going to get to eat till five o'clock and then all of a sudden their scores just start to peter out and

1:46:03 I need naps. what's really the difference between that and the Atkins, right? Some people are afraid of an avocado because they say it's fattening. I mean, talk like knocked back an avocado like nothing. Some people are afraid of an avocado because until you have talked to someone that you trust, that's that's done it and is there, you know, until you know some guy who's a competitive marathon or something like that.

1:48:25 I'm at as, you know, Billy Bob, the bow hunter, or, you know, I'm tired of where I'm at in archery. You might not want to hear this, but we need to address this problem. and I've got a pretty good story about big bird, but I always like, I've got big bird legs, you whatever they gave me as a portion, I halved it. And I mean, just that, and then getting rid of

1:51:21 there's times where I'm needing to write or I'm needing to speak, and I kind of just feel fuzzy in the head. It's not junk, not stimulants, you know, just healthy foods. He does ultra marathons and all that jazz. or that dentist guy who goes over to africa and shoots a lion and fucks it up that's how a lot like there's a lot of fucking crazy intellectual dishonesty out there when it comes to this subject.

1:54:08 How many do they get? Yeah, I think it's, what is it, every three months they can chuck them out? dude, we were in your yard and your wife comes out and there's like two coyotes in the yard, zen, their stress relief was shooting. And when I went to the Arnold and competed, to me. So when Frank and I talked, I was like a big fan of him because I was a fitness guy for my

1:56:51 against it. He wasn't like dead set against it. I think he just wasn't interested. Right. So I pick a deer. And I said, yeah, dude, imagine if 850,000 people in the state of wisconsin weren't out hunting a year 850,000 And guess what? I was telling a friend of mine about it, the story of you, you were in Alberta and you they're out there and they're out there way more now. And this, and this is an exact reason why

1:59:53 I mean, you saw the size of it. So we're like, what is the deal? The Liam Neeson movie. when you shot an elk that they probably thought of as theirs oh they definitely thought of it was So, and, you know, both my guides kind of had, you know, once we said, oh, there's wolves, they, like, grabbed a gun. And we're like, what the crap? freaking arrows skipping off junk and we ended up shooting both of those wolves dead and there's a

2:03:40 much saying in is everyone in position? Because then they all like, He was actually to my left, So I'm kind of looking because I know this wolf that sounded was – actually a bison that was from yesterday that's right yesterday or the day before look at that I freaking grabbed my bow. yeah that's a cool picture like to me that's pretty cool wolves are amazing they're amazing

2:06:25 I like how you don't swear. Lining up the shot. Here's what I've lost. He only picked up three. Well, there's people that worry about them being wiped out. And there's obviously people want to hunt deer, but there's also an issue. And it was in the middle of summer. he just said it's like there's just so many that they're issuing a lot of urban tags

2:10:24 Look at the size of these fuckers. What kind of move is that? Yeah. I mean, there's a mailbox. And that's what it is. always catch you catch slack for being a bear hunter but i go up to british columbia every year And you want to watch this in your yard? and wildlife biologists are the ones who know the best. They are all Cecil. And they literally catch a deer that's giving birth to a fawn and they pull them out of

2:13:42 Well, they equal rights. He'd be the ultimate character for you to have on. He's Every year he'd blow through the windows. And pulled his claw out. Oh, my God. And licked it clean. because bert thinks because of cooking like the grease and crap that got on the curtains So, I mean, he had like piled the couch up. So Mary Jane's like got a snow shovel

2:18:01 that's all the balls off the curtains Oh, yeah. It's probably about the same kind a misconception they think that hunters want to kill animals and they're they're vicious and I hope so, too, for you. it's not that the bear came into his own house. It's a fucking person's house. And if you don't but when you talk about an animal that can flatten a stove,

2:20:45 nails as big as the bear nine inch long spikes you're talking about an insane animal that if middle of a freaking wolf attack to see them but you see things like i told you the time we're like like that there's things like you know you talked about how um the rivets up in alberta you know The timber's gigantic, like a couple stories high. like branches are coming off like nothing is stopping this dude he's freaking going and right

2:24:28 And we talked about there's argument to why. The closer you get to rut, the more likely, you know, I kind of think those boars might have bred one or two sows. chocolate and that's the one i got you know so you know some people might be like oh he was trying there's like sometimes i've heard like birds and noises where I'm like, And then all of a sudden he like just decides.

2:27:45 woods there's so much so much of it is just like inherently fascinating or like it appeals to us really exert themselves i mean it's like it's like looking I've seen bucks that literally look like that fighter that fought Kimbo or whatever, you know. you get, you get, you get tired, man. Yeah. And I think when they get that run down, They just get after it.

2:30:16 And he's just been breeding for weeks. cute little squirrel you know i see the squirrel like and he like kind of like he's like looking nature's nature is interesting but it's you know i'm a conservationist i'm a i'm a huge supporter that really spend very little time with animals and in wildlife? it's overwhelming because his opinion or his point of view was that these hunters are just these

2:34:17 Well, Jamie could pull it up. Well, in Cam Haines' hometown, some guy just died. You didn't know that, did you? A lot of people don't know that. Well, also, not just that. and the horns stopped on his steering wheel and the body came in and hit him in the face I mean, they have no idea about that stuff. were like eating us all the time i mean they were everywhere and she's just like you know what i get

2:38:34 Well, imagine if you could see all 1.5 million car accidents in like a scene, like one after the other. But just the sheer volume would kind of wake people up. Yeah. You just see boom, boom, boom, boom, smash, hoof to the face, antlers to the neck. Listen, we've got to get the fuck out of here. Thanks, Jamie. And there's the television show that is on the Sportsman's Channel.